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Latest On Vladimir Guerrero

By Ben Nicholson-Smith | June 11, 2012 at 11:34am CDT

11:34pm: The Blue Jays have informed Guerrero that they have no spot for him in the Majors and he will not be called up, reports Enrique Rojas on ESPN Radio Dominicana (via Twitter). Vlad will be allowed out of his contract to seek employment elsewhere.

10:16am: Agent Bean Stringfellow told Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports that Guerrero "has not [opted out]. Not yet." The opt-out date is open, Rosenthal reports. There's no talk of Guerrero retiring, though. He's running and hitting well, according to his agent.

10:14am: Guerrero has given the Blue Jays an ultimatum, Enrique Rojas of ESPNDeportesLosAngeles.com reports (Spanish link). He won't return to the minor leagues, even if the team decides not to call him up. Guerrero has returned home to Anaheim, Rojas reports.

9:54am: Vladimir Guerrero appears to have decided to give up his comeback, Mike Wilner of Sportsnet 590 the FAN reports (on Twitter). The Blue Jays signed the 37-year-old to a minor league contract worth $1.3MM in the Major Leagues last month.

Soon after joining the Blue Jays' organization, Guerrero hit four homers in four games at Class A Dunedin. He was then promoted to Triple-A Las Vegas, where he collected four hits last night after a slow start. Blue Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos has maintained that Guerrero won't necessarily make the club's active roster.

Guerrero has 2,590 hits, 449 homers and a .318/.379/.553 line in 16 big league seasons. In 590 plate appearances with the Orioles last year, the nine-time All-Star posted a .290/.317/.416 line with 13 homers. He drew interest from the Diamondbacks, Indians and Marlins earlier this year.

This post was originally published on June 12th.

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  1. DamonNormohammadi

    13 years ago

    Ok Then, Now what?

    Reply
  2. Simon Sharkey-Gotlieb

    13 years ago

    A shame he has to go out like this.  Having half my family in Montreal we’d drive up there from Toronto every year, and I got a chance to see many Expos games during the dark ages at that cruddy old “ballpark”.  Vladdy could do it all.  He was one of the most complete players I’ve ever seen, and back then he was just in another stratosphere in terms of his talent.  It’s a damn shame the Expos didn’t get that new park and his body had to die on that Big O concrete.  And it’s also a shame the last great Expo didn’t get to finish his career in Canada (and if all was truly right it wouldn’t have been with my Blue Jays anyways).  You hate to see a legend go out like this, wilting away in Vegas.  But let’s celebrate him today.  A hell of a career, congrats and bonsoir Vladimir, and see you in Cooperstown (hopefully with an Expos cap)

    Reply
    • Double_Up

      13 years ago

      True.  Funny, if they’d expanded Parc Jarry Vlad would still be a top OF today, and may not have DH’ed much at all.  A true 5-tool player for over a decade anyway.  A guy blogged a few comparative stats back in April (stuff like “what players hit over .300, OBP over .350, SLG% over .600, etc.”) for how many years, who met those standards the most years.  He do one set of stats and it’d go “Ruth, Gehrig, Guerrero, Pujols”, then he’d put in runs and rbi’s and drop BA and it’d be “Gehrig, Aaron Ruth, Robinson, Pujols, Guerrero” then he’d put in OPS and ISO and it’d go “Ruth, Gehrig, Guerrero, Aaron, Robinson,”  In every single list, all 15, only two names always appeared: Gehrig and Guerrero.  Guys like Bonds only appeared once, to show how overrated guys like him are.

      Reply
  3. melonis_rex

    13 years ago

    Does this mean he’s retiring?  If so, amazing career.

    Reply
  4. Magorphenger

    13 years ago

    This doesn’t sound accurate

    Reply
  5. Matthew DeClercq

    13 years ago

    I am confused… an ultimatum… majors or retirment?

    Reply
  6. Bombastic_Dave

    13 years ago

    Another pouty entitled veteran player.  

    The truth, Vlad, is that the team does not value you as much as you value yourself.  This just goes to show that you’re more interested in filling in your career numbers than providing for your team by mentoring the players who will play when the Jays contend in the next few years, after you’re retired.  

    I’m infinitely glad your spot on the major-league roster is being kept open for those players.

    Reply
    • stl_cards16

      13 years ago

      You expect him to be happy mentoring young players in the minors?  I don’t think anyone would be thrilled with that.  That’s why he signed with an opt-out.

      Reply
      • Bombastic_Dave

        13 years ago

        I don’t expect anything.  Least of all for him to play in Toronto.

        Reply
    • Double_Up

      13 years ago

      Yes, tweets and reading between the lines tell you so much about people being tweeted about.  Remember when Olney tweeted that Guerrero and Damon would refuse to sign for under $5 million?  All lies, but it got mileage.

      Reply
    • Slopeboy

      13 years ago

      This guy can still play! He didn’t sign up to be a mentor, last year’s numbers should be sufficient proof. He went down to the minors to get in shape and show that he still can perform. If the Jays have no use for him and are not going bring him up, then release him and let him sign with a team that will pay for his services

      Vladimir is a class act and a bona-Fide 1st ballot HOFer, he doesn’t need to pad his numbers and should not be made to grovel like some mediocre scrub looking for a job.

      Reply
      • johnsmith4

        13 years ago

        Jays don’t need to release him.  His contract has an opt out clause.  Vlad can leave whenever he wants by using his opt out clause.  There is nothing stopping him.

        Reply
        • Double_Up

          13 years ago

          And they can trade him, too.  If I’m AA, I put that out there first and ask Vlad to hold tight (assuming any of this is true).

          Reply
  7. Lefty

    13 years ago

    Well when you’re currently working for “Beans” and you potted “Fern” in favor of “Beans” this is what happens!

    Reply
  8. Harris Mevorah

    13 years ago

    The ultimatum I believe is that he is either in the majors to opting out

    Reply
  9. CandyMaldonadoLand

    13 years ago

    If I remember correctly, this is the same organization that was being shady with Frank Thomas near the end of his career. 

    Reply
    • Jaysfan724

      13 years ago

      If I remember correctly, Frank Thomas was hitting .167, got benched, and went ballistic over it.

      Reply
      • ukJaysfan

        13 years ago

        And they still paid him. He was upset mainly because he a vesting 3rd year to his contract based on plate appearances – benching him was going to foil that.

        Reply
        • Jaysfan724

          13 years ago

          He was getting paid regardless, had to do the same with BJ Ryan, will have to do the same with Lind if it happens.  And with his offensive numbers that year, I don’t blame the Jays.

          Reply
        • Bombastic_Dave

          13 years ago

          And rightfully so!  The condition was there because the Jays were worried that he wouldn’t be able to play anymore.  Hitting .167 is not being able to play anymore.

          If I remember correctly, he played a couple games in Oakland, sustained an injury and wasn’t able to play anymore.

          Reply
      • CandyMaldonadoLand

        13 years ago

         in the span of how many AB’s?

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  10. expos94

    13 years ago

    I am just happy he is not retiring because he deserves a better send off than that. 

    Reply
  11. Mike R Christian

    13 years ago

    Vlad has an OPS of .519 in 30 games at AAA. The Jays are in the middle of the interleague schedule and have a 13 man pitching staff. What does Vlad expect? Horrible timing on his part.

    Reply
    • Ted

      13 years ago

      30 plate appearances… not 30 games.

      Reply
  12. Double_Up

    13 years ago

    New tweets: Guerrero is signing with the Tigers, Guerrero is retiring to join the Foreign Legion, Guerrero is being called up by Toronto for Friday, Guerrero is voting for Obama (that tweet was retracted as Guerrero isn’t American).  Anyone can tweet any blarny they like, who exactly has been fired for making up stuff on Twitter?  Olney?  Fox?  Rosenthal?  Who?

    Reply
    • johnsmith4

      13 years ago

      I never got fired.  But, one person unfollowed me.  What more do you want?

      Reply
  13. Jeff

    13 years ago

    I was at the game on Saturday he was playing in. He got nailed in the arm by a pitch and left the game. It looked pretty bad so I’m sure there’s an injury element to this as well

    Reply
    • Double_Up

      13 years ago

      Nice to hear from someone at the games, not a twit.
      Well, he did go 4-5 last night with a lined triple to dead center, so I doubt he’s hurt.  This next point has nothing to do with you, btw: until a real news report from a real source pops up, I won’t worry about him quitting or whatever.

      Reply
    • Slopeboy

      13 years ago

      Is Vladimir playing in the field or is he strictly a DH?

      Reply
  14. bigmike04

    13 years ago

    I think if vlad opt out than cleveland should signed him & released Damon who just isn’t hitting the ball anymore..

    Reply
  15. NYPOTENCE

    13 years ago

    If he opts out hope the Yankees replace Jones with him.

    Reply
    • Chris

      13 years ago

      no i hope the yankees dont sign him. thats all they need is another aging ball player on their team. still waitin to hear the news on Gardner. if anythin the yankees need to try to make a trade for Quentin or maybe a guy who can play all over the field like cuddyer who has some pop. wouldnt mind seein soriano back in new york either as a DH/OF especially since the cubs are whilling to take up most of his contract. send a couple of mid-level prospects to chicago and make the trade happen.

      Reply
  16. Ikannoka

    13 years ago

    I’m sad to hear from this news.
    When I go all the way to Toronto, I’d see Vlad.

    Reply
  17. Double_Up

    13 years ago

    My brother just emailed me: he has a trip planned to Toronto to see the Jays but may not go now, he wanted to see Guerrero.  Trip was for early July.  So if no Guerrero, my bro ain’t buying ticket’s.  We’ll see.

    Reply
    • stl_cards16

      13 years ago

      Guerrero never really looked like he was going to be in Toronto.  So it would be kind of silly for him to plan a trip to see Vlad.

      That would be like planning a trip to a city to see a certain band without knowing if they are going on tour.

      Reply
  18. Matthew DeClercq

    13 years ago

    They should call him up to see what he can do, i would love to see this guy play on bluejays

    Reply

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