Knobler On Tigers, Hamels, Upton, Royals

Rival executives are divided on what the Tigers need to acquire for the second half of the season, Danny Knobler of reports. Some say the Tigers need a pitcher, others say they should acquire a second baseman and others believe they don’t need to make a major addition. Here are more of Knobler’s notes, starting with the Tigers:

  • Detroit has shown some interest in Matt Garza, but Tigers people suggest a deal is fairly unlikely, according to Knobler. The Tigers don’t seem enthused about the possibility of trading for Marco Scutaro, though they’ve shown some interest in him.
  • The Phillies have identified about four teams that would be a fit for Cole Hamels and they’re saying they'd want players who are close to contributing in the Major Leagues. However, the Phillies aren’t ready to deal the left-hander yet.
  • Scouts believe the Diamondbacks are serious about listening to offers for Justin Upton.
  • The Royals had been considering the possibility of becoming midseason buyers this year. They don’t intend to give Jonathan Broxton or other players away because they “badly want” to win games in the second half, Knobler writes.
  • The 43-43 Athletics see themselves as sellers, rather than contenders, Knobler reports. A’s people are hoping Brandon McCarthy pitches well and increases his trade value when he returns from the disabled list.
  • Scouts are unimpressed by Cubs pitching prospect Gerardo Concepcion, Knobler notes.

37 Responses to Knobler On Tigers, Hamels, Upton, Royals Leave a Reply

  1. as much as i would like to see the yankees get Justin Upton because that would fix the issue in RF for next year and wont have to resign swisher because of upton being under contract until 2015, i dont think its so smart in trying to trade him when only 5 games out of the division race and 4 out of the wild card race.

    •  Beltran’s expiring contract in 2013 would be a perfect fit for Yankees in RF for 2013 in order to meet 2014 payroll goals.

      • stl_cards16 3 years ago

        Why are the Cardinals trading Beltran?

        • Lunchbox45 3 years ago

          because its the yankees!

        •  I didn’t mean now, but this offseason. Opens up spot for Adams at first and Craig in RF. Chances are that Beltran doesn’t repeat this season(see Berkman). Could try to get Phelps and Santana as a return.

      • Slopeboy 3 years ago

        Yankees have passed on Beltran twice already. Still can’t understand why, but they refused him WITH a discount before he signed with the Mets. Then again this past
        Off-season, he offered the Yanks the same deal as the Cards and they declined.Drove me nuts! Can’t see them signing him when he’ll be two years older.

        •  Yanks had Swisher in RF and didn’t need him this year. Next year Swisher will look for a multi year contract but Yanks need to get under payroll for 2014. Beltrans contract expires after 2013. What player can the Yanks get to play RF next year better than Beltran on 1 year contract?

          • Slopeboy 3 years ago

            I’m not certain who that would be, but it won’t be Beltran. As I said, Yanks passed on him twice already. He’s making $12.5MM this year and next, he’ll be 38 hrs old at the end of the contract. Boras is his agent, you really think Beltran will take a pay cut?

            Swisher would most likely agree to that contract and the Yanks most likely will not bring him back, as they’re looking to get younger and less costly at that position.

    • Who cares about the Spankees

      • Slopeboy 3 years ago

        Maybe the four teams chasing them in the AL East?

  2. Patrick Beliveau 3 years ago

    I posted this in the forums… but lets see what everyone here thinks of this:

    So… Justin Upton is said to be available… and they REALLY need a 3rd baseman which San Diego has.. Would something like this work? kind of like the ‘3 team trade’ with the White Sox, Jays and Cards for Rasmus last year

    From San Diego:
    Chase Headley

    From Toronto:
    Matt Dean and Deck McGuire
    From Toronto: Chase Headley, Moises Sierra, Anthony Gose, Aaron Sanchez, Asher Wojciechowski

    From Arizona: Justin Upton.

    Upton is very affordable and signed through 2015 (i think) and could easily make the transition to LF. The Jays can afford to let Gose go, with the OF locked up for a bit and the Jays have a couple solid OF prospects in the minors right now…

    This doesnt move any of the ‘Top 3′ SP’s in Toronto’s system but provides a solid return both ways i think… 

    What do you guys think…  Ive had one reply who thinks Nicolino or Syndergaard would need to be made available to Arizona…

    • Lunchbox45 3 years ago

      The first problem with your proposal is that is a joke of an offer for Chase headley, who is affordable,  highly underrated and under control.

      The second trade for upton looks like a bit of an overpay, it doesn’t in your proposal because you didn’t give up much for headley, but when you move 2-3 good prospects for headley that becomes 6 good prospects for upton, plus sierra

    • GasLampGuru 3 years ago

      I actually think the Padres should approach the DBacks about a deal involving Headley and Upton, but not of the 3-team variety.  I think the Padres should offer up Headley and Quentin for Upton.  A deal like this solves problems for both teams.

      First, the Dbacks think they are contenders right now (they aren’t), and in order to make that happen they must upgrade at 3B.

      Second, they wouldn’t be able to contend if they moved Upton and didn’t get a RF back in return.

      Third, the Padres desperately need a young, controllable player who can be the face of the franchise.  Upton fits that bill to a “T”.

      Fourth, I think a lot of Upton’s issues are attributable to the management style of Kirk Gibson, and Bud Black is Gibson’s polar opposite.

      With this deal the DBacks set themselves up as a possible contender in the NL West (and they would probably think it makes them the NL favorite because DBacks fans are delusional like that).  It allows them to trade Upton without creating a gaping hole in the middle of their lineup.  The deal also allows the Padres new ownership (when the deal gets done) to show the fans they are serious about adding real talent.

      It’s one of the few deals out there for the DBacks that solves a glaring hole at 3B without starting what would amount to a rebuilding process, and while Quentin’s contract is up, they could easily work out an extension with Headley that would cover a few of his arbitration years at an affordable price.  If they re-sign Quentin, they get two players for the longterm in return for someone who really isn’t getting the job done consistently and possibly freed up cash to add someone else.

      • Brandon Stubbs Calvert 3 years ago

        To bad we already trade quentin away because we didnt want him… Also the fact that quentin isnt that good doesnt help

        • GasLampGuru 3 years ago

          There is a difference between trading someone because you don’t want him and seeing an opportunity to use him in a package to get Dan Haren.

          The deal would be more about Chase Headley for the ‘Backs, and they desperately need him.  They won’t win the west with Roberts and Bell platooning at 3B, but Headley might set them up to make a 2 or 3 year run as West Champs.  He’s easily a 20 HR, 40+ double man in AZ, and probably a .300+ hitter.  Plus, his defense is a huge plus.

          Fact is, trading Upton, who doesn’t seem to enjoy playing for Gibson, for Headley and Quentin is probably the only scenario in which the DBacks can trade Upton AND win the division.  Otherwise, they are trading him for prospects and essentially rebuilding.  Getting and possibly extending Quentin is icing on the cake; or they could turn around and flip him for someone else.  He and Headley are arguably the two most sought-after hitters in this year’s trade market, so trading for both would give the DBack’s a ton of options.

          • GasLampGuru 3 years ago

            Oh, and Upton and Quentin aren’t vastly different from one another.  They share common shortcomings (defense).  They have similar offensive profiles in terms of average (.270) and power potential (25-30HR).  And what Quentin lacks compared to Upton (speed), he makes up for in better plate discipline, fewer strike outs, and ability to consistently reach base.

            This trade would very much be a win now move, whereas keeping Upton is more of a wait and see approach.  And like I said, Headley’s value to the DBacks can’t be overstated.

          • Brandon Stubbs Calvert 3 years ago

            If anything carlos quentin would have been better trade bait then chris carter. 

             Personally I dont think headley is that good before this year his best year was batting 289 with 4 bombs, and even now in his “Break out year” he is batting 267 with 8 bombs at the break.  Much rather have Upton in a down year than headley in a good year.  Not to mention headley is going to want more money next year if we were to decide to sign him.  I would rather have big prospects then the combo of headley and quentin.

  3.   the A’s have Anderson coming back next month and Staily their AAA star has been lights out so a starting pitcher could be available but my bet its Colon not McCarthy.  The A’s are only 3.5 games out of the WC so I see Beane waiting until the end of the month if they are still close. 

    • rainyperez 3 years ago

      As a baseball fan I cannot see A’s competing with the best of the AL or the NL. It would be best to see what A’s can get now rather than wait till the end of the month. 

  4. Mark110 3 years ago

    Any REDS fans out there? What do you think about the REDLEGS going after Upton or am I dreaming?

    • Patrick Beliveau 3 years ago

      I think you’re dreaming… Arizona needs a legit 3B bat… And I dont think the Reds have that, and I really dont think the Reds have enough pieces to acquire Headley to flip him with MORE prospects/OF ready guys to get Upton… 

      • Billy Hamilton would have to be involved with others

      • not_brooks 3 years ago

        They could get their legit 3B bat in Manny Machado.

        And Upton is probably one of the few players in the game that the O’s would trade Machado for.

        • Patrick Beliveau 3 years ago

          When did we start talking about the O’s? He asked about the Reds chances… 

          And Machado is not a legit MLB 3B bat that Zona needs… sure it would be great to acquire Machado, but he’s easily 2 years away at best especially with his uninspriring numbers in AA this year, and Arizona needs a 3B bat now.

          • not_brooks 3 years ago

            Arizona is willing to trade Upton, Arizona needs a 3B bat, Every team in the game should be interested in Upton, Baltimore has a potential 3B bat.

            Just making conversation, guy. I didn’t realize that I was only allowed to talk about the Reds.

            I’ll stick to your guidelines the next time I reply to one of your posts.

  5. sam_lammert 3 years ago

    upton for tyler greene boom problem solved everyone is happy, you’re welcome

  6. forkball27 3 years ago

    Well if the Tigers could get Scutaro for a player not many Tigers fans know, do it. I wouldn’t move Castellanos unless you move him to SS next season and move Peralta to 2B or look elsewhere for a 2B next season. Other than that I think that the Tigers should be more focused on betting a solid starting pitcher. 

  7. Patrick Beliveau 3 years ago

    I 100% agree that the Jays need pitching, Morrow and Hutch should be back soon… but if they have a chance to acquire a young impact bat like Upton, I think they’ve at least got to inquire.

  8. Ben_Cherington 3 years ago

    and what does your comment have to do with this article?

  9. and how did my comment have nothing to do with this article? this article has to do with upton being shopped around and my comment had to do with the yankees being better off in aquiring upton instead of resigning swisher. maybe you should get your old eyes checked and re read the article???

  10. Ben_Cherington 3 years ago

    see you in august!

  11. Lunchbox45 3 years ago

    Morrow will be back relatively soon barring any setbacks.

    hutch wont be back until september at best.

  12. sam_lammert 3 years ago

    i would absolutely not trade craig, he is too good and too young, id trade beltran way before craig

  13. Slopeboy 3 years ago

    Your next…!

  14.  Out of the players who have the slightest chance of being traded, I would trade Craig for Profar or Price. Although Price would require additional pieces included. Rangers could use Craigs power bat in LF, especially if they lose Hamilton. Rays have pitching depth but could use Craig in LF since Upton most likely will leave. Plus Craig is cheap and will be for several more years.

  15. sam_lammert 3 years ago

    i completely wasn’t thinking about his injury history, now i see your point

  16. Pawsdeep 3 years ago

    Not yet

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