Rosenthal’s Latest: Cardinals, Greinke, Astros, Rasmus

With Chris Carpenter set to undergo season-ending surgery to repair a nerve condition in his shoulder, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports writes that the Cardinals are in the market for at least one starter and one reliever. St. Louis has trade chips though the new collective bargaining agreement doesn't allow teams to recoup draft pick compensation for rental players, changing the landscape.

Let's round up the rest of Rosenthal's rumors…

  • Zack Greinke would likely welcome a trade to – and a chance to sign long-term with – the Cardinals, though it's unclear if the Brewers would be willing to trade him within the division.
  • The Astros are prepared to move Wandy Rodriguez and Brett Myers, though Jed Lowrie is essentially unavailable. Rosenthal says they could be an obvious trade partner for St. Louis since GM Jeff Luhnow spent nine years in the Cardinals' front office.
  • The Cardinals may not want to invest $20MM+ annually into a pitcher, but both Lance Berkman ($12MM) and Kyle Lohse ($11.875MM) will be off the books after this season.
  • The Blue Jays' immediate strategy may be to acquire a modest rotation upgrade before reassessing at the trade deadline, shortly before Brandon Morrow returns from his oblique injury. Rosenthal believes they should consider selling high on Colby Rasmus.
  • Teams continue to call the Angels about Peter Bourjos and some believe he could be the centerpiece of a deal for a quality starting pitcher. The Halos believe the young outfielder is a building block for the future, however. They do not appear to be in the market for a pitcher at the moment.
  • The difference in income tax rates between Texas (none) and California (among the highest in the country) was an issue for Astros first baseman Carlos Lee as he mulled over a potential trade to the Dodgers. Los Angeles may have been willing to help "bridge the gap" had he shown enthusiasm for the deal.

103 Responses to Rosenthal’s Latest: Cardinals, Greinke, Astros, Rasmus Leave a Reply

  1. Mike, it’s the 4th of July! Go cook some burgers or something. :)

  2. Runtime 3 years ago

    Trade Rasmus? I usually love Kenny Rosenthal but… REALLY?Trading any of the “Core 4″ would result in instant distruction of the fanbase.

    People show up to games to watch Lawrie, Rasmus, Bautista, and Encarnacion.

    • MB923 3 years ago

      I doubt that. I’m no Blue Jays fan so I can’t make any guarantees, but my guess is that Jays fans love Bautista, Lawrie and even Encarnacion more so than Rasmus.

      • 12hkasdhnknsdf 3 years ago

        yes – they love Bautista, Lawrie and Encarnacion.  but there are many fans in TO that have taken a shine to Colby.  thus, he is one of the Core Four.  since Lawrie and Rasmus have moved to the top of the order, those four guys have been on fire.  

        The Jays won’t sell on rasmus now… he’s still under team control until after the 2014 season.  in fact, I’d be surprised if AA doesn’t sign him up long term.

        • $17154452 3 years ago

          Not to mention that Rasmus has publically stated just how he feels about being a Jay, I can see him agreeing to a longer contract.

      • Runtime 3 years ago

        You see more Rasmus T-Shirts and Jerseys than Encarnacion…

        • MB923 3 years ago

          At Yankee games, I see more A-Rod jerseys and t-shirts than Cano. I also don’t see many Mariano Rivera jerseys/t-shirts (and I’m not just referring to today or since his injury, I mean over the years).

      • Rasmus is quickly becoming a fan favourite in Toronto. Rasmus chants are becoming a frequent occurrence.

      • Sniderlover 3 years ago

         It’s Lawrie… Bautista. Rasmus.. Edwin

        Jays fans absolutely love Colby. Starting to become a fan favorite in Toronto.

        • MB923 3 years ago

          I know, it’s already been established. I thank you and everyone else for the info lol

    • jaysyear 3 years ago

      Hes the weakest of 4 but we do love him. Problem is we have Anthony Gose waiting to take his spot

      • rickybat 3 years ago

        No problem Gose is great trade bait I would rather tade him then Rasmus

      • Sniderlover 3 years ago

         Gose is still ways away and it’s not like he is tearing the cover off the wall in Vegas and continues to strikeout a lot. There is no rush to bring him in the bigs and I think he likely spends another season in Triple A next year.

        No guarantee Gose becomes better than Rasmus either who was a much better prospect than Gose.

  3. Not loving the Grenkie stuff. Much rather have Garza. Doubt Grenkie would sit to well in our clubhouse.

    • MB923 3 years ago

      I’d be shocked to see either one in a Cardinal uniform this year.

    • BranchRickeysGhost 3 years ago

      Don’t want Greinke or Garza.  If the Cards were willing to go top tier pitchers, I would like to see them go after Cole Hamels or Felix Hernandez, which would require giving up top prospects.  Otherwise, a middle tier pitcher like Wandy Rodriguez would be OK.  No way on Brett Myers.

      • Felix would run them dry and would probably take a whopping 5 players to get because he already has team security attached to him.I bet the Mariners would demand

        Miller+Martinez+Cox+Taveras+1 mid level. Along with his big contract. Those first to players in a deal would make me fient if being discussed together.And knowing Zach he will probably demand the world from you guys in order to give him up

        As Far as Hamels yes he is the real deal but a similar story a costly amount of players probably not as much as the Felix deal because he is technically a rental because he is not signed to a contract after this season.Not too mention he would cost a lot of talent and money.The BP would be choking next year.I know I will get battered because you will attack me saying “Carpenter cannot be relied on to remain healthy” yes that is true but even so you guys will still have a good rotation with Miller and maybe Martinez in the awakining

        Wainwright-Garza-Lynn-Garcia-(westbrook possibly)

    • Budyzer 3 years ago

      Garza is over hyped. If you look at his numbers other then one good year with the rays he is middle of the pack

      • start_wearing_purple
        start_wearing_purple 3 years ago

        When you consider that more than a few people have gone on this site calling Garza an ace, I will agree that he is overhyped. However he’s still a fairly solid middle of the rotation pitcher to have on your staff, especially when you consider he spent a good chunk of his career in the toughest division in baseball.

        • vtadave 3 years ago

          Yep.  Garza is what us Dodgers fans thought we had in Chad Billingsley.

        • Budyzer 3 years ago

          That’s what I ment by middle if the pack. He is a middle of the rotation arm not a ace. Well unless the jays trade for him then he will be an ace until morrow returns then it’s morrow garza Romero and two joe whatshisnames

    • Garza would be fine with the Cardinals and that is probably his best fit and it would make next years rotation absoltutley deadly.Acquire some very good relievers in the offseason and you will prove all of the scouts wrong for yapping about how the Cards didn’t re sign Pujols.

      2013 Rotation


      That said it will defintley take one of your top prospects to get Garza from the Cubs.Is Shelby Miller untouchable? probably if he is the Cards could offer then a deal with Cox in it or Martinez although if it is Martinez that will basically be it.Here are some trade options

      Miller/Martinez for Graza straight up similar to the Wheeler-Beltran trade

      Cox+Swaggarty for Garza that could get it done. Cox is a high ceiling prospect that when drafted expected to have big numbers like Wright or Zimmerman.

      • Swags is out for the year with TJ. Cox probably wouldn’t qualify as a centerpiece in any deal though.

        Miller or C-Mart is the only way we’er getting anyone worth getting.

    • Why would you want Garza over Greinke???  Greinke is a stud.

  4. lol. Sell high on Rasmus, who at the age of 25 is on pace to hit 32 hr and 100 rbi’s all the while playing gold glove calibre center field. It took the kid a while to get acclimated, but with his move to the 2nd spot in the order, has been one of the hottest hitters in baseball for the last month or so.

    Is it so absolutely out of the question, that a guy who was rated as a top prospect and has had success in the past can finially start to show some consistency at the age of 25? 

    • He’s an extremely streaky player. I wouldn’t buy to much into this hot streak.

      • johnsmith4 3 years ago

        Right, and the idea of a player “clicking” as he approaches his peak playing years (ages 26 to 30) is simply unthinkable.

        • Sky14 3 years ago

          Right, and the idea of a player with a history being streaky continuing that trend throughout his career is simply unthinkable.

        • notsureifsrs 3 years ago

          not unthinkable. but unless it’s actually probable, an organization with the cf depth that the jays have should at least check to see what they could get if they cashed out

      • Jaysfan724 3 years ago

        I’m buying into the hot streak…and I’m also buying a 500 level seat in right field on my next trip to Toronto to catch that home run ball.

    • Sky14 3 years ago

      Well you see that is kind of the point of sell high. Rosenthal clearly sees this recent hot streak as a mirage. He could easily go into the tank and start hitting .200 again. For his career he in hitting about the norm for his  pre all star game stats but after that he has taken a nose-dive in the past. 

      • And he could just as easily keep doing what he is doing. We arent talking about a 5 or 10 game stretch here. It’s actually 36 games in the 2 hole with a 961 OPS with 13 hr and 32 RBI’s. With Lawrie in front of him and Bautista behind him for the foreseeable future, I’m pretty sure that a 25 year old can keep pretty good numbers going. Even if it falls off to an 800 OPS, I’d be pretty happy. Oh and he also steals a few bases as well as the great defence he has been playing.

      • Jaysfan724 3 years ago

        It’s simple, he did this in St. Louis too…he’s a tremendous hitter in the 2 hole, but put him anywhere else and you will get no production.  So what if he is a product of hitting in front of a slugger, if that’s what makes him offensively great, then so be it.

  5. Budyzer 3 years ago

    Sell high on rasmus!? Are you kidding me there’s no way the jays trade away a 25 year old CF especially when that us the exact player they are looking for. Young controllable talent with upside. And don’t come at me with gose either he isn’t ready and has no where near the bat rasmus has. I can see them trading JPA , Johnson or Rajai Davis

  6. The difference in income tax rates between Texas (none) and California (among the highest in the country) was an issue for Astros first baseman Carlos Lee
    The Tax Rate? Hahahaha…. still laughing…. The Tax Rate… you can’t be serious!
    The more I think and laugh about this. Doesn’t his primary residence have to be in Cal”eeee”fornia to effect him. Now if Cal”eeee”fornia has a wage tax then that’s another story.

    The Astros are prepared to move Wandy Rodriguez and Brett Myers. They have been prepared to move those two for some time now and it hasn’t happened.
    Speaking of “Happ”ened. I wonder if JA Happ has anything left in the tank?

    I could see Rizzo being interested in Rasmus, just not sure if the Jays and the Nats are compatible for a trade.

    Let the Cardinals have Greinke! If I am the Orioles, I am no longer interested! I am looking at cheaper alternatives. I really don’t want to give up any prospects for him!

    • Budyzer 3 years ago

      I doubt with the new cba any teams are going to trade much more then a bag of doritos for a rental player. And I think teams with those players are out to lunch on the asking prices. Maybe some prospect with little upside or a college arm but that’s it

  7. bjfan 3 years ago

    Ever notice these writers spend a lot of their time, advising Jays to trade away their best players?  The Jays are no longer a feeder team, no matter what Rosenthal thinks.

    • notsureifsrs 3 years ago

      not really, no

      • bjfan 3 years ago

        Rosenthal and Knobler have both  had pieces in the last week. Never mind those mysterious scouts that are being quoted in various rumour pieces. 

         You should read more.

        • notsureifsrs 3 years ago

          actually that sounds like a reason not to read more

    • He was on the FAN 590 with Bob McCown yesterday spouting the same crap (at least I think it was him). Oh and they should trade EE and JPA and Escobar for prospects because they arent going to compete for the next 2 or 3 years.

      • LazerTown 3 years ago

        because they are not in last place.  Aside from Romero none of their pitchers have shown the ability to be more than back end starters.

        • Encarnacion's Parrot 3 years ago

          Romero is kinda pitching like a back end starter this year.

        • Jaysfan724 3 years ago

          lol last place yet 2.5 games out of 2nd in their division…sit down, clown.

      • Jaysfan724 3 years ago

        How one’s opinion changes so quickly. Rosenthal was one of the biggest advocates this offseason, preaching the Jays being able to compete this year with the 2nd WC.

  8. Linda J 3 years ago

    Greinke to the Cards and his choice???  He hates the Cardinals and in particular Chris Carpenter.  I don’t get it.

  9. Encarnacion's Parrot 3 years ago

    Keep Rasmus and see if this is another one of those hot streaks, or if the adjustments he’s made is actually bearing fruition. I have respect for Rosenthal’s journalism, but trading Rasmus, or any player, while his value is a little higher is probably one of the stupidest things I’ve heard Rosenthal ponder.

    It’s not like Gose is blazing the PCL on fire and forcing their hand either. If that happens and Rasmus is legit, just move Bautista to 1B, E5 to DH, Rasmus to RF and Gose to CF.

  10. davengmusic 3 years ago

    yeah carlos…i’m sure that tax hike is really gonna break the bank for you…

  11. burnboll 3 years ago

    The idea of selling Rasmus isn’t that stupid. Toronto should either extend him for 5-6 years, or move him.

    The value is high, and his contract is only gonna get shorter by the day. So make a commitment to one of either options.

    I can’t say which way would be best for Toronto to go.

  12. 55saveslives 3 years ago

    Carlos Lee is worried about the tax rate of the final couple months of his 100+ million contract? Dang, how much does this guy spend???

  13. mkl_nyn 3 years ago

    EDIT: In reply to burnboll

    Under affordable team control until 2015, his value has only been high-ish for a month since his tweak at the plate (or as some would call, finding his swag), people were saying the same thing about Bautista and now Encarnacion when they started to not suck.  No reason to blow up the team2 games out of a playoff spot.  Get off the ledge folks, season’s not over.

  14. Ferrariman 3 years ago

    hey Mike, you forgot to mention Jake Westbrook (8.5mil, 1mil buyout) also comes off the books after this coming season.  Thats nearly 30mil, with only about 5mil going back to the team in arb raises.  THen the following season, you add carpenter(11mil) and Beltran(12.5mil), if they don’t spend some coin, I’d be a bit ticked off.

    • JamesOrLurch 3 years ago

       They’re also going to have extend Wainwright after next year as well. Maybe they can do that after this season for a lower amount than he would command on the open market. At least I hope that’s a priority.

  15. jhawk90 3 years ago

    Wandy Rodriguez should be a Twin.  They can afford it, they desperately need a solid K guy and Target Field is perfect for him.  All they have to do is pay him, ‘stros won’t get anything else but contract relief from anyone.

  16. Rasmus is worth 2 blue chip prospects because he gets on base

  17. rnsone 3 years ago

    BREAK UP THE PHILLIES! Let the fire sale begin!

  18. Goriax 3 years ago

    I love all these American writers that EVERY YEAR seem to think the jays would or should think about trading away all their assets.

    Yes Ken, I am very sure AA will consider trading his young cheaply signed star center fielder in the midst of a career year right after finding a comfort level with his new team.

    Most of the time I like Kenny Ken but this is not a rational thought of any kind.

    • David McCutcheon 3 years ago

      Were you thinking the same thing a month ago when he was miserably bad, or is this a philosophy that you’ve taken a liking to now that he’s on a hot streak?

  19. Greinke as a cardinal that would be something

  20. crashcameron 3 years ago

    if anything the blue jays arent dull right now! could be a blowout either way. (or both as in that game in Milwaukee where they went back-to-back-to-back, lost the lead on an ARam salami, then won it with back-to-backs)
    and Rasmus and Joey Bats have two of the sweetest yard-swings in the game

  21. David McCutcheon 3 years ago

    Question to Rasmus defenders: Did you think trading him was a terrible idea before this hot streak? If he goes back to hitting .210, would you wish he was traded while he was hot? Not saying he will, but it’s just as likely that will happen (his career norms, btw) than that he has suddenly found the proverbial light here. Something to ponder.

  22. My biggest concern on Greinke is the problems that he had KC!! Of course who wouuldnt have had problems in those days with KC.. I do wonder tho how his reported to himself attitude would work in St. Louis!!!

    • David McCutcheon 3 years ago

      If he gives the club a great chance to win every few days, I don’t think they’d care what he’s like. You have the Furcals and Berkmans and Wainwrights as the ringleaders. Hoot and Carp haven’t always been peachy with their personas, but they’re arguably two of the greatest Cardinal pitchers to ever live. Before anyone says not a chance, Carpenter went 2-0 in three WS starts in the modern era and also single-handedly secured the W in Philly to close out the NLDS, in addition to his Cy Young and his performance in the ’06 WS.

  23. Sniderlover 3 years ago

    Yeah, Colby isn’t going anywhere. And I don’t see how you can even call it selling high when Colby has shown success before (.859 OPS in 2010 as a 23 year old). The OPS isn’t even at that level yet so it’s not like he is outperforming outrageously or anything to sell high for. He is hitting like people expected and he is under control and plays CF. Absolutely no reason to trade him unless you’re getting a top notch starter back but even in that situation, you would give up prospects which Jays have plenty of, not a good major league player.

  24. Alex Mednick 3 years ago

    why people think we should trade away people and rebuild for the future is beyond me…the sky is definitley not falling TO.  We have so much talent brewing on the farm that most people don’t even know about…we’re overflowing…people just don’t realize because we sign lots of international guys who are breeming with talent.  Guys whos names we don’t recognize, but if you know baseball, you can see it in these guys.  People are quick to get scared and say sell, sell, sell…but the truth is, AA has a great plan for the long term, and there is NO reason to sell when we’re dealing from a position of power.  If you want to trade Escobar, I can understand, but let the Rasmus’ and the JPA’s continue to prove themselves as core players and leaders…we will need some more “seasoned” young veterans when this team is taking off…JPA brings a lot to the team in leadership, drive and the way he manages the rotation.  When D’Arnaud and Gose press the big leagues (along with the plethora of other names and talents that most people don’t recognize are just going insane in the farm system), then we can decide what to do…whether to trade these guys for other impact players (if you have 30 amazing prospects, you can still only field 9).  But the fact of the matter is, the Blue Jays are not in a bad situation and people need to stop worrying.  They’re doing GREAT.  And in 2012…they’re only 4.5 games out the wild card with serious injuries to their rotation.  AA not only looks at talent, but he looks at the drive for his young players and their desire to win…he doesn’t negate the mental side of a prospect…we’re overflowing with talent, and we are NOT in trouble…

  25. MB923 3 years ago

     Well the point I was making that of the “core 4″ as mentioned, my guess is Rasmus is 4th in that department. So I assume if any of those were to get dealt, would Jays fans be the least disappointed if it was Rasmus as opposed to Bautista, Lawrie and Encarnacion

  26. The truth is the Brewers will not make that deal unless 1-2 of that core four were to be included, they probably want Lawrie or Rasmus plus Gose or Arnaud so unless a deal that involves those players is approached a deal will unlikley happen.However I’m a bit concerned with Grienke pitching in this tough AL East even though Toronto doesn’t strike me as this big media city I think the Jays would do much better with Hamels but If they can sign Grienke for slightly cheaper they can possibly sign a bat that could backup the big guys in lineup if none get traded.That said here are some trade proposals.

    Gose/Arnaud+Lawrie/Rasmus for Grienke

    Gose+Rasmus/Lawrie +2 mid levels for Hamels.

  27. MB923 3 years ago

    Since when is Colby Rasmus a 5 tool player?

  28. MB923 3 years ago

    And I wasn’t saying who would be the easiest to trade, I was just asking which player traded would hurt the fan base more. Just cause Encarnacion plays at a position easy to trade for doesn’t mean teh fans would like the trade.

    But since I take it you’re a Jays fan, I’ll take 12hkas and your word for it that it’s Encarnacion

  29. rickybat 3 years ago

    I would lean towards NO ONE in the core 4 I would wait till the end of the season then see what we can get in free agency to compliment either pitching or the core 4 using what most teams want and that is pitching and and a catcher we have all in the minors with high upside graet trde bate.

  30. johnsmith4 3 years ago

    Rasmus has been a five-tool player from the day he was scouted in high school.  He rated 60 out of 80 (plus) across the board on all five tools.

    Which one of his five tools do you consider to be weak?

  31. MB923 3 years ago

     The 2 key words you just wrote were high school.

    So far in MLB, he hasn’t hit for average, his fielding has been about average (off and on). and he has a below average arm. His power has also been off and on.

    If you can find me a saber or advanced stat to judge a player’s speed I’d like to know. I know SB are not hte only way, but he doesn’t steal many bases.

  32. notsureifsrs 3 years ago

    tools don’t refer to statistical results

  33. johnsmith4 3 years ago

    Even in the minors, he was considered a five-tool player.  Rated as 3rd best prospect in baseball.

    Plus power equates into 20 to 24 HRs.  Already has 16 at mid-point of season.  Has a plus arm.  His fielding is coming along nicely.  So is his hitting.  Probably will established as plus by end of season.  Always had plus speed.

  34. MB923 3 years ago

     But he’s shown no signs (yet) of being one.

    Pretty sure they originally thought the same about Travis Snider

  35. notsureifsrs 3 years ago

    well right, there are plenty of players whose tools never translate into results. that’s been the case with rasmus for awhile

    he’s still a 5-tool talent in the scouting sense, though

  36. MB923 3 years ago

     Fair statement

  37. Mick_In_Ithaca 3 years ago

     You obviously haven’t seen Johnson play much lately. He had a pretty pathetic June.

  38. are you serious?

  39. MB923 3 years ago

    Not with the bat, and Rasmus is nothing special defensively but Encarnacion is terrible defensively, so I guess it’s fair to say Rasmus is more valuable than Encarnacion

  40. MB923 3 years ago

    He still doesn’t hit for a high average (nor does he get on base a lot), and hitting for average is a part of being a 5 tool player. His fielding as I said is off and on, he was great in 10, terrible in 11, and doing good this year (according to fielding metrics of course)

  41. Encarnacion's Parrot 3 years ago

    Rasmus has been pretty solid in CF this year. I’m actually surprised to see his UZR/150 so low with how much ground he’s been covering. I was expecting it to be around 5.0, not a measly 1.2.

  42. Sniderlover 3 years ago

     Rasmus defense has been really good in Toronto. It surprised me a bit since advanced metrics didn’t rate his defense too well but it’s been really good. He is probably the Jays 2nd or 3rd best defender behind Lawrie and arguably Yunel.

  43. MB923 3 years ago

    I know it has this year. As in a post a little bit above, I pointed out his defense (and power) have been off and on.

  44. D_Koff 3 years ago

     I do not have much knowledge when it comes to UZR/150. However, if it shows that Colby Rasmus is NOT a good to excellent defensive centrefielder then the stat is flawed in my opinion.

  45. mkl_nyn 3 years ago

    Rasmus’ line since ‘the adjustment’..

    (with an about avg avg season babip of .279, so it’s probably not all luck :)

    Small sample size, yes, but there wouldn’t be a ‘sell high’ post if not
    for the major change in his approach (similar to Bautista Sept ’09 and
    EE Aug ’11).  If we’re going to nitpick, guess he could steal a few more bases, but then again it’s about scouting not stats 😉

  46. Something is wrong if you think lucroy will maintain those numbers, and why are you so sure the catcher will pan out?

  47. MB923 3 years ago

     It was a guess and you told me otherwise. Point taken.

  48. Encarnacion's Parrot 3 years ago

    Would you put Adam Dunn in RF if he had Bautista’s arm? What’s the point in having it if you can’t catch anything not hit directly at you?

    Now you see my point.

  49. Encarnacion's Parrot 3 years ago

    Ahh. I didn’t bother to read the entire convo, and I’m sure it shows haha.

    I’ll agree that his defense and offense in his career have been streaky, but he’s on a pretty long streak right now. He has been slipping a bit in the last week, but the power is still there, and he still has been in the middle of clutch situations (to reiterate, clutch players don’t exist – clutch moments do).

  50. burnboll 3 years ago

    He’s starting to turn it on right now, the question is whether he’s a player that Toronto should commit to long term or not. If not, then they should really look into trading asap. Because his trade value won’t go up, as his contract winds downs. His talent is evident to most clubs I believe, so Toronto don’t need to showcase him in order to get good value.

    The question is really, extend or trade.

  51. MB923 3 years ago

    No worries, I think we will tell by next year though. He’s never had back to back good years (on the contrary, he’s never had back to back poor years either)

  52. Encarnacion's Parrot 3 years ago

    I think you misread my post:

    “It’s not like Gose is blazing the PCL on fire and forcing their hand either.”

    Basically saying everything you just said. Gose’s strikeout % has actually gone down quite a bit compared to last season, and his OBP/wOBA are the highest they’ve been in his pro career. But the power isn’t there yet, and his batting line/.ISO don’t suggest that he’s really raking because of the PCL (he’s actually a better hitter on the road, which is a good sign).

    In the same breath though, he’s OPSing .800 as a 21-year old where the average age is 27. The ability to really take off is there, it’s just going to take some patience.

  53. MB923 3 years ago

    His OPS is above .800 for this year, but not for his career

    And his career UZR/150 with the Blue Jays is +2.3 That’s not Fantastic.

    And as I said, his arm is below average and he can’t hit for average (those are 2 parts of a 5 tool player)

    This guy is absolutly Not a 5 tool player (Yet).

    As I wrote, Yet. I never said he won’t be one, but don’t call him one until he is one. What happened in high school is Irrelevant.

  54. His numbers have been steadily increasing, there’s no reason to think he won’t be one of the top offensive catchers in the game. Not to mention that his defense is highly underrated.

  55. Felix has been arguably the best pitcher in baseball for years, and is still young…. and a prospect is a prospect, there are no guarentee’s. you have to pay for someone like King Felix

  56. Best pitcher in baseball? Seriously?

    His career ERA is higher than Wainwright’s, and higher than Carpenter’s as a Redbird. It’s also only .2 runs better than Garcia’s.
    You can value potential, but you can’t value potential and then say a prospect is just a prospect.
    King Felix shows flashes of brilliance, and then throws 3.45 ERA ball all year, like last year.

  57. burnboll 3 years ago

    St Louis did the right thing when they traded Rasmus, they are World Champs.

    Plus, Rasmus were treading water in St Louis, perhaps needed to be traded to get his shtick going, whether it was St Louis that didn’t fit him, or if the trade in itself was a wakeup call, I don’t know.

    But Rasmus-St Louis- Toronto. Everyone benefited from that trade.

  58. MB923 3 years ago

    Please reread what I wrote on his career UZR. I said with the Blue Jays. And every single stat in baseball has flaws. If youre referring to OPS, his rookie year does and should count. Again im sorry to break it to you, but he is not a 5 tool player. You’re just pretending he is underrated because he played for your team.

  59. MB923 3 years ago

    Lol wow. I never said Rasmus was average at best. I said he is not a 5 tool player. BIG difference. And an. 848 OPS is a lot higher than a .764 OPS

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