Astros Fire Brad Mills

The Astros have fired manager Brad Mills, the team announced. Hitting coach Mike Barnett and first base coach Bobby Meacham have also been relieved of their duties. The club will announce interim replacements on Sunday.

Mills, 55, was hired by Houston prior to the 2010 season. They finished fourth in the NL Central that season (76-86) but finished with the worst record in baseball last year (56-106) and are on pace to do it again in 2012 (39-82). Mills was hired by owner Drayton McClane and GM Ed Wade, but Jim Crane has since purchased the team and Jeff Luhnow has replaced Wade. Overall, the team went 171-274 under Mills.

The Astros are in the middle of a drastic overhaul and the beginning of the rebuilding period under Luhnow, who will now bring in his own on-field management people. Last month we heard that Mills will likely to be replaced this coming offseason. He was under contract through the end of the season with a club option for next year.


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Rabbitov
2 years 11 months ago

Formannnnn Milllls

2 years 11 months ago

Best of luck to his soon-to-be fired replacement.

Carl Langley
2 years 11 months ago

This is a most-likely scenario, but if they find a manager like Buck Showalter, who has an obvious track-record of turning suck to good, then it’s looking good. The Astros made some decent trades this year and will have some decent prospects from drafts. By 2015, they could be sitting pretty, even in the AL West.

dc21892
2 years 11 months ago

That’s a little overrated. The O’s had talent, they just needed somebody to straighten it out. The Astros have very few pieces, so it’s a completely different situation. Mills was as good for the job as anyone so if he got fired no one would last. Maybe he’ll find his way back to Boston.

Chewtoy123
2 years 11 months ago

Wowww. I figured they had just accepted this was going to be a go-nowhere season. Did not expect anyone to lose their heads mid-season.

Guest
2 years 11 months ago

Dave Clark gets my bid as interim

Guest
2 years 11 months ago

Were they expecting a better year…?

Kevin Chambers
2 years 11 months ago

No but they weren’t expecting to suck so bad.

Tko11
2 years 11 months ago

If you expect to suck, why does it matter how bad you suck? Either way you suck…At least they will have the first round pick.

Kevin Chambers
2 years 11 months ago

There’s a difference between sucks and going on a 5 and 34 run I believe it was.

Tko11
2 years 11 months ago

So they thought they can trade Wandy and Lee and not suck? They had to know they were going to be awful.

redsox4434
2 years 11 months ago

Exaxtly. No one could win with that roster. It’s not Mills’ fault they’re crap. I find it hard to believe that the front office, after trading away most of their remaining good players, somehow expected the Stros to not be horrible?

I really hope Mills gets another shot with a halfway decent roster.

Tko11
2 years 11 months ago

Yeah, I dont understand how they can fire Mills after he took over a horrible team then they decided to trade almost every major league caliber player they had, leaving Mills with very little to work with.

Guest
2 years 11 months ago

so yes, (you’re saying) they were expecting a better year…

rovert22044
2 years 11 months ago

Sad to see him go. He never had a chance to show what he really could do as a manager. The only opportunities he was given, there wasn’t a good enough team fielded. Oh well. Good luck elsewhere Mr. Mills.

MaineSox
2 years 11 months ago

What was the general impression among Astros fans of his managing?

stroh
2 years 11 months ago

Mills was a mediocre manager. Relied too heavily on lefty/righty matchups, even if the player he was pulling out was playing well or was hot. Usually left pitchers in there too long, or sometimes with no reason pulled a pitcher who was pitching well and inserted someone who had not been pitching well. Did not seem to have a clue in managing. I’m not saying the Astros would have won 20 more games with someone else managing, but what is apparent is that Luhnow could not put up with the incompetence any longer. Certainly Mills was not someone to go with for the next 3-5 years.

Anthony Rainier
2 years 11 months ago

Over thought the game. Horrible at playing match ups. Mixed lineups too much, couldn’t get the right pitcher in the right situation.

Bob Hulsey
2 years 11 months ago

Because usually there was no right pitcher. Managing the Houston bullpen was like a nightly game of Russian Roulette. You knew it was going to explode, you just didn’t know when.

notsureifsrs
2 years 11 months ago

sounds like an inevitable problem with that roster

johnsilver
2 years 11 months ago

Understand what think you are looking for.. If are thinking of a manager with former Sox ties and Farrell is out of play.. Lets forget the rest of Francona’s guys please, but I have an idea of one with ties much further past who was vilified by Astros fans and was pretty good in Boston and Milwaukee as a player and was known as very intelligent as a player, even then was known to be a future manager one day, just ended up with lousy Houston teams when he got his chance..

Cecil “Flash” Cooper. He would also make Reich Kommandant Selig happy in another area and be a 1st in that same area for Boston also.

Since he never got an invite the last time they had hires and all of the ones invited were less than promising to put it nicely.. LaMont the most curious name… He probably won’t this time either, but I always did want Flash back in the system again

Kyle Cotton
2 years 11 months ago

well he was part of the problem too seeing as he can’t keep a young team confident, couldn’t light a fire under them when they were down, and would use half the bullpen in one inning just because of left right match ups. Honestly good riddens the guy couldn’t handle the pitching staff, and any young players that did well regressed because he didn’t show confidence in them.

blagblag4488
2 years 11 months ago

The Astros finished with the world record in baseball last year. Why’d he get fired?

*edit: they changed world to worst

2 years 11 months ago

1. The Astros have a new owner and a new GM, and neither of those guys were involved in selecting Brad Mills as manager. I’m sure they want their own guy. Why fire Mills now instead of at the end of the season? I can only speculate, but perhaps to give themselves more time to look at candidates?

2. Independent of the team’s record, Mills is not a very good manager. He doesn’t manage a pitching staff well and he overmanages the day to day lineup, with constant changes and over-emphasis on platoon advantage. His decisions seem more about trying futilely to win games instead of providing stability and a good learning environment for young players–and he’s much too hard on pitchers’ arms.

Kurisu Rg
2 years 11 months ago

Your sarcasm detector = broken

babaganoosh
2 years 11 months ago

I guess the Astros expected themselves to be slightly less mediocre this season?

Leonard Washington
2 years 11 months ago

Nobody could have done much better with the team he was given. Its unfortunate, Mills is a good guy.

Chiburgh
2 years 11 months ago

Maybe he can go fishing with Mike Quade next season.

sportfan
2 years 11 months ago

This is absolutely ridiculous that the Astros have fired Brad Mills Hitting coach Mike Barnett and first base coach Bobby Meacha. In a way I bet Brad Mills Mike Barnett and Bobby Meacha are all happy that they got fired. Honestly who would in there right mind would want to coach a team that has no good player on the roster.

Carl Langley
2 years 11 months ago

Thousands of potential MLB managers. Who in their right mind would turn down any MLB managerial job?

ssjchaseutley
2 years 11 months ago

I dunno, Jose Altuve is pretty good.

RedEyedDream
2 years 11 months ago

If no one else is going to do it can I?!? I’ll take one for the team and manage that Astros!

itsmewade
2 years 11 months ago

Would you rather be a coach for a championship AA team taking bus trips everywhere? I didn’t think so.

2 years 11 months ago

On the other hand, do you take a job, knowing that in 2 years you will be fired, and potentially ruining any chance you ever have to manage again at the big league level?

LayerCake
2 years 11 months ago

Who says your chance will be ruined? Sure he managed one bad (stresses bad) mlb team but many owners and GM’s know that and take that into consideration. They look at managers for their value at managing their respective teams not solely on what they were dished in the past. Hell Bobby Cox wouldn’t fair much better with that AAAA squad.

mlbscout6
2 years 11 months ago

It’s not right, but many coaching careers end because of short failed tenures like this.

Bob Hulsey
2 years 11 months ago

And yet somehow pitching coach Doug Brocail still has a job.

Guest
2 years 11 months ago

I feel sorry for the guy. Come on, Joe Torre couldn’t have avoided a 100 loss season with that roster.

macdice
2 years 11 months ago

Joe Torre was only a good manager when he had the Yankee payroll behind him. Buck Showalter would have those title if he was given one more year.

Matthew Williams
2 years 11 months ago

The point is even if they had a hall of fame manager this team was never going to accomplish anything this season.

LazerTown
2 years 11 months ago

It’s a business, and with a new ownership there was turnover in employees.

Kyle Cotton
2 years 11 months ago

well he didn’t help matters seeing has he would use half the bullpen in one inning because of left right match ups and not because the pen was struggling.

macdice
2 years 11 months ago

Craig Biggio?

Anthony Rainier
2 years 11 months ago

Biggio would be great, but he is coaching his son’s high school team.

mstrchef
2 years 11 months ago

With a more talented roster.

Blue387
2 years 11 months ago

I think the Astros should consider Brad Ausmus for manager. He sounded smart and intelligent in an interview on NPR last year.

Anthony Rainier
2 years 11 months ago

Thats my first choice.

2 years 11 months ago

Unfortunately he is under contract with the Padres so unless they grant permission for him to interview it won’t happen. Though Bagwell and Biggio is a possible combination..

2 years 11 months ago

Almost always teams will grant permission as long as its a promotion.

2 years 11 months ago

What is Biggio up to? A combination of Ausmus and Biggio would be ideal.

2 years 11 months ago

It will be some dude from St Louis.

2 years 11 months ago

It’s not about the win/loss record. Mills had made numerous stupid moves, such as his constant shuffling of lineups. A player hits a homerun or goes 3/4, gets benched for 3 games. Players couldn’t get into a groove with his constant juggling. One game he brought in Welsey Wright to pitch to a LH batter, then moved him to right field for one batter (who was RH), then when the next batter came up, moved Wright back to pitcher. After GM Jeff Luhnow stated late last week/early this week (to the press, mind you)1B/3B Brett Wallace needs to play every day, Wallace was benched for several games afterwards.

NomarGarciaparra
2 years 11 months ago

Besides perhaps some extremes, how much does a manager really matter? Terry Francona never had a winning season with the Phillies. Joe Torre wasn’t highly regarded before he managed the Yankees. There must be a ton more examples.

Most moves that managers make are classic and knowledgeable fans would arguably be no worse at it. As long as the manager is able to keep good relation (i.e. not Bobby V), how much does manager really matter?

Of course, there are probably exceptions…but I mean in general.

mlbscout6
2 years 11 months ago

Managers need to know when to call for pitchouts, shift defenses, call for a hit and run…they need to know how to manage egos and create a fun, yet accountable environment for the players. They need to form a trusting relationship with the players so they feel comfortable telling him when they are injured…..so yeah, they matter. I know I might get some negativity for this because baseball fans these days feel the need to assign quantitive credit/blame for everything, but in in my opinion, it’s a complex relationship between a player and manager that can’t be measured in WAR.

Infield Fly
2 years 11 months ago

That is one heck of a revolving door the ‘Stros have going where managers are concerned but it’s been clear for a long time that no amount of manager swapping is going to address the problem. That’s really a sad state of affairs.

Eric
2 years 11 months ago

Once the Astros cut ties with Bourn, and Pence it was their downfall from there.
Tampa Bay finished dead last every year but ended up being good because they had an eye for good talent in the Draft.
The Astros will have to try to find some gems and just go through the growing pains.

mlbscout6
2 years 11 months ago

I agree, but the upside for the Astros is that unlike the Rays, they have the market to add some impact free agents once they have established a core through the draft. The hardest part for the Astros is going to be assembling a quality rotation through the draft before players like Altuve become expensive, and Jed Lowrie falls apart from injuries (always been a big fan of both of these guys, btw)

Jack Cox
2 years 11 months ago

And we were so close to having no managers fired this season.