Giants Notes: Pence, Cabrera, Astros

The Giants are seeking outfield help following Melky Cabrera's 50-game suspension but in the short-term, they'll look to work with what they have in-house.  More on the situation in San Francisco..

  • Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (via Twitter) notes that the Phillies sent money to the Giants in the Hunter Pence deal.  The Giants still won't have an easy time finding an outfielder, but money shouldn't hinder their pursuit. 
  • As General Manager Brian Sabean insisted yesterday, the Giants' pursuit of Hunter Pence started long before whispers of Cabrera's suspension began circulating, tweets Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle.  Schulman notes that the Giants tried to get Pence last July, when Cabrera was still a member of the Royals.
  • However, the price tag for Pence was different this time around, Schulman tweets.  The Astros were seeking Zack Wheeler plus another prospect for Pence and were seeking the same for Michael Bourn.  The Giants acquired Pence from the Phillies for right fielder Nate Schierholtz, minor league reliever Seth Rosin, and minor league catcher/first baseman Tommy Joseph.


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29 Comments on "Giants Notes: Pence, Cabrera, Astros"


3 years 18 days ago

And yet we settled for Shafer,Oberholtzer,Clemens, and Abreu. I want to fight Ed Wade

davengmusic
3 years 18 days ago

Look him up. He’s got all the time in the world now…

richardb21
3 years 18 days ago

I would love to see what Luhnow could have gotten for Bourn.

Gothapotamus
3 years 18 days ago

If for nothing else, the pricetag had to be less this time around since Pence is only controllable for 1 1/3 years, rather than 2 1/3 years.

johnsilver
3 years 18 days ago

Podsednik went 2-4 again last night. That raises his Avg to .384 in 75+ PA this year and not like SF is going to get a big bat past anyone close (Arizona). Pods is making close to league min couldn’t be much worse (if any) than DeJesus who would cost them nearly 5m if they buy his opt out for next year, plus Pods wouldn’t cost them anything..

Sometimes I wonder what Sabean is thinking.. Pods plays every OF position well, deJesus is well below average at any.. it’s not like they can get an AS past Arizona.. Man I am having a hard time here as well as Pods is playing and they can just release him (like Arizona did) if they don’t want him, but he has been nails with Boston.

bigbird24
3 years 18 days ago

I think Pods would be great, an upgrade offensively that could fill the leadoff spot since Pagan just plain sucks outside of a few 30-at bat runs here and there.

johnsilver
3 years 18 days ago

It’s not like the cost would be anything at all, even a non prospect. Pods would be a better guy to run out there in CF than (as you mentioned) Pagan and still runs well. He has been 6 of 7 in stolen base attempts. Having a hard time when a upgrade, that would cost almost nothing is being over looked.

rainyperez
3 years 18 days ago

I agree. But man, what a whirlwind of a season it would be for Podsednik if he got traded again this year lol.

johnsilver
3 years 18 days ago

Like if he got claimed by AZ and THIS time they kept him as a block move? yeah.. I dunno.. That would be admitting they made a mistake in just claiming him less than 2 weeks after releasing him.. they could though.

gmenfan
3 years 18 days ago

Pods would be a great addition to the lineup. Pods would be claimed by several teams before the Giants would have a shot at him. Its not going to work.

3 years 18 days ago

The Diamondbacks would block him getting to the Giants, that simple. Arizona wouldn’t let him reach SF

Guest
3 years 18 days ago

sox to dbacks to sox to dbacks.

gmenfan
3 years 18 days ago

Agreed. Nobody gets how the waiver system works.

3 years 18 days ago

If Cabrera was suspended without pay, does that mean the Giants are not paying him for the entire year or just the time he missed?

Brooklyn_Mick
3 years 18 days ago

For the time he misses.

3 years 18 days ago

For the love of God…….go get Francoeur. He has a nice smile, gives $100 bills to the fans, and is an all-around good guy. Never mind he’s not that good at hitting, running to the ball before it lands in the outfield, or avoiding making an out while running from base to base.

3 years 17 days ago

Francoeur is signed for another season beyond this, however. As for a waiver claim, the Diamondbacks could complicate things there; they could make life hard for Sabean, even though Francoeur is signed through next year.

camerondatzker
3 years 18 days ago

A Rumor that is being discussed.. The SF Giants are talking to The Angels about Vernon Wells. Wells can supply some power and in a new environment can probably get the job done. The Trade rumor is for The Giants to send Pitcher Heath Hembree and a double a guy for Vernon Wells. Wells could be a great addition to The Giants.

bonds2425
3 years 18 days ago

This wouldn’t be smart. If they did this I would expect the halos to pay all of his salary.

Namio
3 years 18 days ago

Heath Hembree for Wells? Hell no. Not even if Angels would pay half of Wells contract. Hembree is our future closer and look at our bullpen what do we need the most? Yes, a closer.

camerondatzker
3 years 17 days ago

Vernon Wells would be a boost to The Giants offense. You have him bat behind Hunter Pence, You have a mighty good line-up. This Deal may happen in the next week or so.

Namio
3 years 17 days ago

Wells will be an upgrade to Blanco or Christian in left field, but if you look at his AVG, OBP, SLG from last season and this year, they are .218, .248, .412 and .221, .260, .387, respectively, that should put up at least a warning sign if not a stop sign. Wells is also turning 34 at the end of this year so he’s passed his prime, which was 23 to 31 y.o. For the price of Hembree and potentially money that we have to pay, it ain’t worth it. That’s just my take on it. Trading a player like Wells should not take a prospect like Hembree.

3 years 18 days ago

They should go get Cody Ross (who has cleared waivers) he has been good

mu_Zak
3 years 18 days ago

All I can say is those expecting the Giants to push hard for Bourn as quite a few local writers have said is a given now with Melky’s absence just ain’t happnin at the dollar figures mentioned here previously. Plus the fact that he’s a CFer and Gary Brown’s time will come no matter how stubbornly Bobby Evans resists it.

The Giants are ultra conservative to the point of nearly getting burned by bringing Posey up late- but since that worked out to a T it’s the tried and true formula. Evans said back at the beginning of the season “ideally Brown stays in the minors all year and does NOT come up in Sept”
Myself I would like to see Brown up to be eligible for PS- he’s had over 1100 MIL ABs and he’s hitting .283/.350/.398 in the Eastern League AA. That league which East coast mlb teams frequently promote hitters from because it’s such a tough league to hit. Like Posey I don’t think Brown is going to be challenged by Fresno and will probably put up similar type numbers. With the absolute need to prove at least one OFer ready (whereas Posey was a given going straight from A ball to AAA) he deserves to see action. Most of the rumblings now indicate he’ll be here in Sept, perhaps without Evan’s blessings because he still won’t admit that it’s even a possibility. But to not have him eligible for PS might be a mistake (of course there’s ways around it with the DL).

rainyperez
3 years 17 days ago

Gary Brown is not ready. Simple as that.

He’s great against LH but okay against righties. His walks need to increase and his CS definitely need to go down.

As a leadoff hitter he can’t rely on his batting average to carry his OBP. His defense will definitely carry over to the MLB but everything else needs more polish.

He’s destined for AAA and hopefully there he’ll build up even more confidence and carry the power he found in AA over. I think he’ll be great but in my opinion the FO is doing a good job with his development.

kimofromkauai
3 years 18 days ago

Interesting, if accurate, the article suggest Sabean would not trade Wheeler for 2.3 years of Pence but did trade him for .3 years of Beltran.

Brian Stevenson
3 years 18 days ago

Exactly. That seems beyond asinine. Worked out for the Astros though; Cosart/Singleton/Santana > Wheeler and one more.

rainyperez
3 years 17 days ago

Hindsight’s 20/20.

Price was higher for Pence. It would’ve took Wheeler plus another Top 10 prospect it wouldn’t be worth it for the Giants since their farm was already thin.

They needed Beltran and it’s the price you pay to keep the fan base happy in a title defense run. If they just stood pat there would’ve been moans and groans and their sellout streak would’ve ended. It didn’t work out it’s as simple as that.

They lost Wheeler but they already have two pitchers in Blackburn and Crick who have performed better than Wheeler when he was with the Giants at younger ages.

camerondatzker
3 years 17 days ago

I think that The SF Giants may be close to a deal on acquiring an Outfielder, I mention that The Angels want to move Vernon Wells and his contract, The Angels will pay 99% of it and it is a steal. Heath Hembree has been a bust at Fresno and I think this trade can benefit The Giants in the short run.