Mets Likely To Keep Bay, Santana

There’s “zero” chance the Mets will release Jason Bay or ask him to compete for a job next Spring Training, Mike Puma of the New York Post reports. Mets executives have already decided to stick with Bay, Puma reports. “He’s a part of this team,” a Mets person said.

The Mets aren’t likely to trade Bay or left-hander Johan Santana, Adam Rubin of reports. Both players have no-trade clauses and tens of millions remaining on their current contracts. Bay will earn $16MM in 2013 and his contract includes a $3MM buyout for 2014. Santana, who's now on the disabled list with lower back inflammation, will earn $25.5MM in 2013 and his contract includes a $5.5MM buyout for 2014.

Rubin also surveys MLB rosters for bad contract swap candidates the Mets could consider. GM Sandy Alderson will likely be looking for a new center fielder this offseason and the team could also pursue a right fielder, Puma writes.

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  1. Santana still has value. Pre-no hitter and All-Star break he was back to his old self. Clearly the workload was too much for him. Well see how he fares next season but he can be a July trade candidate if Mets take on majority of his salary.

    Bay on the other hand…..ugh. At least he plays a solid left field when hes out there. Other than that he is useless. But this just goes to show how awful the Mets alternative outfield options are.

    • icedrake523 3 years ago

      Solid left field? He’s below average (going by FanGraphs UZR). Besides, it’s left field which is one of the easiest, if not the easiest, position to play. That’s no reason to keep him.

    • Santana is the least of the Mets worries this offseason to be honest its the other holes that need to be filled up (Catcher , OF , Bullpen).

  2. dc21892 3 years ago

    I agree about Santana. He needs to really work on strength and conditioning this offseason. I don’t think he remembered what pitching a full season took.

    • johnsilver 3 years ago

      Imagine the Twins remember (well) how bad they were robbed by over hyped Mets prospects, when they were demanding everything but the kitchen sink from both the NYY and Boston.. Gardner + Hughes from the Yankees and the funniest? Lester + Ellsbury from Boston and then took a sack of mushy potatoes from the mets.. Burned bad eh??

      • mikefichera 3 years ago

        Carlos Gomez has been a productive major leaguer. Higher WAR than Santana the last two years. Also they weren’t overhyped prospects thats why it took so many. Philip Humber who was also part of that trade pitched the 21st perfect game in MLB history.

        • gradylittle 3 years ago

          WIth the White Sox. And other than one perfect game, he’s had a pretty rough season.

          • mikefichera 3 years ago

            No disagreement there. Twins got rid of many of the players they acquired in that trade.

      • icedrake523 3 years ago

        Every team overhypes their prospects. Hughes was being called the Next Roger Clemens. Joba was considered untouchable in their negotiations for Santana. He’s just been a decent reliever who can’t stay healthy and Hughes is just average.

  3. bigpat 3 years ago

    Tough to find a front office as silly as the Mets. Jason Bay would be replacement level in a beer league softball team, he’s a nice guy but no business being on a major league team at this point.

    • And what do you suggest they do then? Nobody will trade for Bay…even if he is free. The Mets internal options in the outfield are horrendous. Might as well keep him around

      • bigpat 3 years ago

        They should just release him. He can’t hit for anything and it’s just a waste of a roster spot for a team that’s not competing. It’s hilarious to see guys like him and Chone Figgins still with their teams after they’ve been given multiple chances to bounce back yet never improve.

        • bobbygriffin 3 years ago

          If LF was there only hole, I would agree. Release him and fill it in. Problem is, they have a number of other vacancies to fill. So focus on those and live on a hope and a prayer that Bay steps it up next season. If not, that’s his last year and we’re done with it anyway and maybe next offseason LF *will* be our only hole to fill.

      • Spit Ball 3 years ago

        You might be able to get the Angels to flip you Wells for Bay.

  4. icedrake523 3 years ago

    Do they really not realize how bad Jason Bay is? His SLG would be a horrible OBP, he’s literally hitting worse than his weight, and he’s a lousy fielder. I’m glad I’ve become numb to how horrible this organization is run.

    • halflink123 3 years ago

      Doesn’t matter, really. It’ll be a ton of money off the books for 2014. Bay is a sunk cost at this point, as noone will trade for him anyway, above a garbage level player. At this point the question is: is Jason Bay worth the league minimum? Who knows but it’s the league minimum so who cares.

      Personally I would’ve waived him this year but it really doesn’t matter much either way.

      The real question is who’s going to play the outfield next year for the Mets? My guess is that they’re going to target high average, high OBP, but mediocre slugging type players. Seth Smith/DeJesus types basically, as these are the cheapest outfielders out there.

      • withpower 3 years ago

        Agree with this. He’s got more value if they hang on to him and hope he runs into 10 or so homers next year in whatever playing time he ends up getting.

      • icedrake523 3 years ago

        The money owed Bay is a sunk cost, but the at-bats he’d get next year are yet to be. Any fan who catches a foul ball in the stands would be an upgrade over Jason Bay.

        • halflink123 3 years ago

          agree with withpower’s quote right above yours

      • Honestly they need to go after a legit young OF to be honest someone like Shin Soo Choo or Peter Bourjos who could be in the OF for years to come I wanna see a young bat help the lineup already not guys who are past there prime and just fill ins.

    • halflink123 3 years ago

      Also I disagree with the idea that the Mets are a poorly run organization. In fact I think it’s pretty well run. True in hindsight they could’ve made some more trades during the offseason etc., but they made a lot of progress at the minor league level this year. Again maybe they could’ve gotten more for Reyes, etc., but overall its a pretty well run org, certainly better than under Minaya

      I think by 2014 it will have a lot of major league ready talent and all the bad contracts will be off the books.

      Look at the progress that’s been made since 2011 with a $140M payroll. Not great but certainly a step forward

      • icedrake523 3 years ago

        Having a few prospects doesn’t make them a well-run organization. They have never had sustained success except for the mid-late 80’s. Even back in 2006-2008, they would operate as a faux large market team. They refused to give Chad Bradford 3 years, then ended up giving that same contract to Scott Schoeneweis (grossly overpaying him based off 16 innings he pitched for the Reds that year). Besides misguided signings, the Wilpons proved with the Madoff scandal that they are financially irresponsible. They refuse to take accountability for the product they’ve tried to pass as a major league team the last few years.

        • halflink123 3 years ago

          Well it appears you’re mixing apples and oranges. I am talking about the Alderson regime. Clearly the current administration can’t be responsible for ’06-08 or the 80’s or whatever because they weren’t there.

          • NickinIthaca 3 years ago

            Are we talking about the Mets, or US Politics?

          • icedrake523 3 years ago

            Different GM but the same ownership and that’s who I am criticizing. They had to approve his free agent signings.

    • 3D 3 years ago

      >>>>>Do they really not realize how bad Jason Bay is? His SLG would be a horrible OBP, he’s literally hitting worse than his weight, and he’s a lousy fielder.

      It’s not about not knowing how bad he is — what are they going to say? “Jason Bay sucks, and we are going to dump him at our earliest opportunity.” They’re just saying the right thing.

      >>>>I’m glad I’ve become numb to how horrible this organization is run.

      Because “how the organization is run” is determined by anonymous quotes in local sports articles.

      • icedrake523 3 years ago

        Do you think that I thought the Mets were a well-run organization until I read this quote today?

  5. Steve Corbett 3 years ago

    J-Bay joins the legion of players who should never have left Fenway (Nomar, Fred Lynn, Mo Vaughn, etc.)

  6. BobSmith77 3 years ago

    2013 will be another year of being bottomfeeders in the NL East for the Mets.

  7. Tko11 3 years ago

    Likely to keep Bay? Hopefully on the bench…

  8. start_wearing_purple 3 years ago

    I can possibly envision a Lackey/Bay swap happening if the Mets kick in the money to even out the salaries but I just don’t see the Red Sox taking on an additional $20M+ with the risks Santana holds.

    Personally, I’d prefer they just hold on to Lackey and hope for the best with him.

  9. I wouldn’t be opposed to getting a catcher like Saltalamacchia but with that contract Lackey has I don’t know if it’d be wise on the Mets part but it would fill a hole the Mets desperately need filled at this point.

  10. dc21892 3 years ago

    I want to give Lackey another chance too. I may be wrong, but since he was sidelined for a whole season due to an elbow injury doesn’t that make the last year of his contract league minimum? If he comes back and pitches like a solid number 3 even, he will be valuable for us. Plus, the final year will be a bargain as long as he pitches. At league minimum he’s expandable if he’s not showing promise.

  11. Slopeboy 3 years ago

    Believe it or not the Mets would most likely not make that trade. Lackey would be at best an expensive #3 starter on the Mets. Their problem is not SP, it seems it’s everything else but that.

  12. johnsilver 3 years ago

    The TJ added another year at league minimum, so Lackey has another year tagged onto his contract (2015) at league minimum and I agree.. Bay has little upside, Santana can’t stay healthy and Lackey *says* he hasn’t pitched without pain in his elbow since his 2nd to last year with the Angels.. I’ll take Lackey and move Salty later in the summer for something worth having.

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