AL East Notes: Ramirez, Ortiz, Britton, Hardy

Manny Ramirez last saw MLB action with the Rays (briefly), and of course will always be associated with the Red Sox. As he continues to look for another chance at the bigs, the slugger spoke with Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports, acknowledging and expressing contrition for his prior PED use. Ramirez says he could play a role similar to that of Raul Ibanez on the field and in the clubhouse. Here are some notes from around the American League East:

  • Always-interesting Red Sox slugger David Ortiz says that he faces an unprecedented amount of responsibility to lead the way in the lineup, reports WEEI.com's Rob Bradford. "I'll give it a try, but I don't think there's a baseball player that has lived through this pressure at my age," said Ortiz. "Think about it. Guys my age are supposed to be complementary players. Nobody signs guys my age to be 'The Man.'" The 38-year-old, of course, is entering the final year of his current contract, and there has been no word of progression on extension negotiations.
  • The Orioles are looking at out-of-options pitcher Zach Britton in different roles in anticipation of a possible move to the pen, reports Eduardo Encina of the Baltimore Sun. Britton, a 26-year-old lefty, has been mentioned as a possible trade chip for Baltimore. As MLBTR's Tim Dierkes recently explained in addressing the O's out-of-options players, the team faces a roster crunch that will require it to make some tough calls on a number of players, Britton among them.
  • There is still no movement on the extension situation of Orioles shortstop J.J. Hardy, writes MASNsports.com's Steve Melewski. Hardy comes across as somewhat frustrated with having to deal with speculation, noting that his previous extension came about in short order. "There has been not much talk at all," he said. "I don't know what they're thinking. The ball is in their court if they want me. They know I like it here." Hardy also added that he would want to address his long-term position before inking a new deal. "If there are any intentions at all of signing me to a long-term deal and wanting Manny to move over to short I would definitely want to know that before," he explained, "because, yeah, I still feel like I can play shortstop and that is what I want to do."


59 Responses to AL East Notes: Ramirez, Ortiz, Britton, Hardy Leave a Reply

  1. Cannon Fodder 1 year ago

    As a Cleveland fan, I dispute your claim that Manny will always be associated with the Red Sox.

    • WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey 1 year ago

      Manny had an amazing 2004 season and capped it off by winning the WS MVP when Boston broke the Curse of the Bambino, that is what he will be remember for….. that and being Manny

      • Cannon Fodder 1 year ago

        It’s entirely a matter of perspective. You remember him for his MVP. I’ll remember him more for eliciting a “WOW” from Dennis Eckersley. Some might remember him for MannyWood. etc.

        • Croagnut 1 year ago

          WS MVP, best production or “WOW” from D.E.

          Tough call.

        • Someone might remember Manny from seeing him at a Taco Bell. Doesn’t mean it matters more than his prime years with the Red Sox.

          • Cannon Fodder 1 year ago

            With regard to the HoF and/or the accomplishments recorded in sports history, I agree with you. With regard to the individual fan, I disagree.

    • Steve Corbett 1 year ago

      I associate him with two things: cheating and that babushka thing he always wore on his head.

      • TimotheusATL 1 year ago

        He rounds out my top (bottom?) 5 least favorite players of my lifetime thus far. Manny, Barry Bonds, Nyjer Morgan, Ryan Braun, and Johnny Cueto…in no particular order of my disdain. I give Cueto the edge over Clemens on my disdain list for that brawl where he effectively ended Jason LaRue’s career by kicking like a little schoolkid. The other four are pretty easy to grasp why I despise them.

        • MB923 1 year ago

          Why Braun and not A-Rod?

          • TimotheusATL 1 year ago

            It’s a tough call. I never really had high expectations of A-Rod from a personality standpoint. Braun was a heartbreaker — one of my favorite players in the game until he completely 180’ed on me.

    • Jeff_Todd_MLBTR 1 year ago

      I didn’t mean solely associated. Frankly, I was mostly just trying to tie the story somewhat to the AL East to find a place for it on the site.

      • Cannon Fodder 1 year ago

        It’s no problem. I figured as much. BTW, thanks for your contributions and please keep up the good work!

  2. WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey 1 year ago

    Can Ortiz’s ego get any bigger?

    • Karkat 1 year ago

      I’m not sure how you’re getting that from these quotes. It’s a pretty clear fact that he’s the biggest threat in the Red Sox lineup, which is unusual for a 38-year-old DH.

      The ego comes into play when he starts talking about getting paid.

      • WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey 1 year ago

        Ahh saying “I don’t think there’s a baseball player that has lived through this” and referring to yourself as “The Man” demonstrates quite the ego. Mike Trout is breaking all time records for a player his age too and you don’t see him tooting his own horn like that.

        • Karkat 1 year ago

          Well he’s “The Man” in the Red Sox lineup, which was the context of the quote, and all the talk of “unprecidented” stuff is mostly in reference to his role at his age. There have been plenty of 20-something phenoms. There aren’t many 37-year-old World Series MVPs. I think you’re being a little less than generous with interpreting some of these quotes.

          • WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey 1 year ago

            There have been plenty of 20-something phenoms like Trout…. that’s why you have to compare his stats to Ted Williams and Barry Bonds.

          • Karkat 1 year ago

            My point was that this is apples and oranges. Players in their late 30’s rarely anchor lineups. Players in their 20’s often do. The fact that Trout specifically is one of the best players of all time in his first two seasons isn’t really relevant here.

            Also, I seem to remember Trout pitching a big fit when he didn’t get a huge payday last year.

          • WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey 1 year ago

            Actually he didn’t say anything, his agent made a few remarks and when Trout was asked about it he said “I’m just happy to be in the lineup. I mean, my time will come. I just have to keep putting out numbers and concentrating on one thing, and that’s getting to the postseason.” That’s a class act right there!

          • WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey 1 year ago

            Actually by wRC+ Ortiz 2013 season ranked 14th over all for players 37 and older, by fWAR it ranked 35th. He is putting up great offensive number but its not “unprecedented” even for his age.

          • East Coast Bias 1 year ago

            I’m confused. Are you guys talking about his production, or his constant talking about his production?

            To me, it isn’t about his production, which is great. It’s that he’s always talking about it that makes him sound egotistical.

          • WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey 1 year ago

            I was trying to demonstrate that while his productions is good, especially for his age, it does not justify his remarks about it. I respect Ortiz’s production just not his attitude and portrayal of it.

          • Karkat 1 year ago

            My point was just that what he was saying felt valid, that it’s highly unusual for a player at his age and his position to be the superstar.

          • East Coast Bias 1 year ago

            Right, I think we all understood what you were saying. The rest of us were saying there is no need for Ortiz to repeatedly state that. It makes him sound egotistical.

            Bottom line, he’s a great player… but he talks too much about his greatness. And that’s annoying.

          • Guest 1 year ago

            deleted

          • Croagnut 1 year ago

            Ortiz said “unprecedented amount of responsibility” not unprecedented offensive numbers.

      • homer
        psabella 1 year ago

        Actually the Rally Monkey is correct. Ego is about self worth nothing to do with fact. While Ortiz might be correct in his words, his Ego is still through the roof.

        • LazerTown 1 year ago

          At least he can still back it up. There are many players out there than whine when they get reduced role because they can’t cut it anymore.

      • WashingtonRancors 1 year ago

        Yep Ortiz is the biggest threat to the dugout telephone in the Red Sox lineup, which is unusual for a 38 year old.

  3. East Coast Bias 1 year ago

    Is this the first time Manny’s publicly admitting using PEDs? Better late than never, I suppose. Props to him for coming clean. I hope he gets one more shot somewhere.

    • Karkat 1 year ago

      The article only explicitly says he admitted to his positive tests and talking about “mistakes.” The same roundabout talk everyone else gives.

      • East Coast Bias 1 year ago

        Not everyone. Not even Manny, prior to this interview.

        They always talk about the past is the past and let’s move on and all that.

  4. Karkat 1 year ago

    Manny Ramirez has a college-aged son? I have never felt older.

  5. Adam Bomb 1 year ago

    As a Boston fan we basically have no choice but to put up with his attitude, due to his bat saving games for us. For years the networks around here fed us this garbage that he’s this loveable guy.

  6. Bleed_Orange 1 year ago

    I don’t think the O’s trade Britton at this point. After missing out on Santana I think Britton’s spot at the number 5 man in the rotation is pretty safe as he has looked pretty good thus far.

    • Lefty_Orioles_Fan
      Lefty_Orioles_Fan 1 year ago

      I want Britton to stay too!
      As for Hardy, I am thinking this is going to be an exciting year for the O’s!
      I want him along for the ride! After the 2014 is over let the chips fall where they may.

  7. Ron Loreski 1 year ago

    How about Manny learns how to play 1B, then he’ll be a perfect fit in Seattle…

    • WashingtonRancors 1 year ago

      Manny is already qualified to play LF in Seattle

  8. furioustoaster 1 year ago

    I hope the Orioles don’t get Hardy signed to an extension. The Yankees might need him next season. :)

    • Victoria Roberts 1 year ago

      It’s really hard to understand why people dislike Yankees fans so much. Particularly small market fans. I’m at a loss to explain it.

      • furioustoaster 1 year ago

        Jealousy is not hard to understand at all.

        Calling Baltimore a small market, that’s actually a hard thing to explain.

        • Victoria Roberts 1 year ago

          It’s actually the arrogance that is hardest to explain. I’m a Red Sox fan. Unless you think I’d be jealous of luxury tax penalties, I can’t really think if anything else.

          • furioustoaster 1 year ago

            27.

          • WashingtonRancors 1 year ago

            I can think of a few thing you can do with those 27 rings….

          • Victoria Roberts 1 year ago

            It’s a lovely number, but what have you done lately? I mean can you even really be proud of something that happened before you were born? That’s kinda like Northerners bragging about how we won the Civil War. I mean, we did, but who really cares at this point?

    • Sky14 1 year ago

      So they brought down voting back?…. Never mind it’s gone again.

  9. Ortiz should keep quiet about his potential production if he wants to whine about his extra year…

  10. furioustoaster 1 year ago

    What has changed in the Boston lineup that he suddenly realizes he’s “the leader” of it? He’s been “the leader” of that lineup since the day they traded away A-Gon/Crawford.

    Sounds to me like he’s setting the fans up for a let down year. What happened? Did his perscription run out?

    • Trock 1 year ago

      Could be referencing a clubhouse leader as well. Throughout the playoffs we constanstly saw Papi pumping up the players in the dugout. I feel as though a lot of people thought that Pedroia would emerge as that. Not to say he hasn’t, because he is a leader as well. I guess Ortiz is just more vocal about it.

    • Trock 1 year ago

      Could be referencing a clubhouse leader as well. Throughout the playoffs we constanstly saw Papi pumping up the players in the dugout. I feel as though a lot of people thought that Pedroia would emerge as that. Not to say he hasn’t, because he is a leader as well. I guess Ortiz is just more vocal about it.

  11. Klaus D. 1 year ago

    For $14 or $15 mil (or whatever his salary is this year), yes, he should be “the man” and a leader in both the clubhouse and the lineup. He was the highest paid “position” player on the team last year. I’ve never worked at a job where the highest paid guy was a complementary piece of the company. I don’t care what his age is. If he wants that kind of money, you have to bear the responsibility that comes with it. If you don’t want to be a leader, then take a pay cut.

  12. np2392 1 year ago

    Oh please, I’m so sick of David Ortiz and his attitude of always trying to be a martyr. Yes, we know it’s unusual for someone to still be a good hitter at that age. Yes, we know you think you’re worth $25m a season but oh so generously accept less. Now can you please stop acting like you are doing charity work and shouldering this great burden by accepting millions of dollars to play a game?

    I dread the day Ortiz decides to retire and we have to endure the Big Papi Retirement Parade in every city. Is this just going to be a yearly thing now where players with inflated egos need a year to announce to the world they are no longer playing sports?

  13. East Coast Bias 1 year ago

    Also, Ortiz was in the Mitchell Report. Which he will still get to the bottom of one of these days…

  14. Croagnut 1 year ago

    You mean that report for possible ster, that was suppose to be kept private, and players were never allowed to dispute.

  15. mattdecap 1 year ago

    Ortiz was not in the Mitchell Report.

  16. East Coast Bias 1 year ago

    Yes, he was. He had a failed test. One that he said he was going to get to the bottom of… and then never did. Remember?

  17. mattdecap 1 year ago

    That was not the Mitchell Report, it was a story published by the New York Times which claimed the “information [about Ortiz’s PED positive test] emerged through interviews with lawyers and others connected to the pending litigation” who had to remain anonymous because “the testing information was sealed under court order.” You can find the full Mitchell Report on the internet, and it does not mention David Ortiz once.

  18. Dave Guarnieri 1 year ago

    Was Brian Roberts on the Mitchell report?

  19. MB923 1 year ago

    The same test that caught A-Rod and Manny. And you are right he was not on the Mitchell Report (and neither was A-Rod and Manny), but all 3 failed the same test.

Leave a Reply