Ervin Santana Seeks To Sign One-Year Deal Before Opening Day

6:46pm: The Royals are "moving forward" without Santana even if he is available on a one-year pact, GM Dayton Moore tells Andy McCullough of the Kansas City Star (via Twitter). "The candidates for our rotation are in-house," said Moore.

6:29pm: Free agent starter Ervin Santana has switched gears and is now looking for a one-year deal, reports FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal (links to Twitter). Santana wants to get signed and into camp as soon as possible, and does not intend to wait to ink a deal until after Opening Day.

Of course, if Santana signs a one-year deal before Opening Day, he could still be made a qualifying offer again next year. That type of scenario was said to be out of the question by Santana's agent, but we learned last night and this morning that Santana's team of representatives was undergoing some changes. It would appear that a change of strategic direction has resulted.

With the new focus on achieving a pillow contract, Santana hopes to land on a team with a strong offense, says Rosenthal. The Blue Jays and Orioles are two teams that could meet that requirement and have had interest, Rosenthal adds. It is not clear whether there is anything connecting those teams specifically to Santana since his shift of plans.

Neither is it clear whether other clubs remain in the mix, or whether Santana's market could expand. Earlier today, there were conflicting reports as to whether the Phillies had (Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe, via Twitter) or had not (Matt Gelb of the Philadelphia Inquirer, via Twitter) inquired about the righty's services. Of course, in theory, many other clubs could potentially have renewed interest in Santana under these changed circumstances. 


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96 Comments on "Ervin Santana Seeks To Sign One-Year Deal Before Opening Day"


Flharfh
1 year 5 months ago

Can’t he just get a clause in his contract that forbids the signing team from offering him the QO next offseason?

Croagnut
1 year 5 months ago

No. Against CBA.

rikersbeard
1 year 5 months ago

No, I think that is against the CBA.

Seamaholic
1 year 5 months ago

Written doesn’t work. Verbal handshake works, if technically illegal.

JoshReddicksWalkupSong
1 year 5 months ago

He could always just accept the QO

jarek redman
1 year 5 months ago

Annnnnnd he gives in to the non-existent market.

rikersbeard
1 year 5 months ago

The jays might be able to give up their second and then get a compensation round pick. I wonder if Santana would turn down a QO again.

Seamaholic
1 year 5 months ago

I don’t get the Jays. They should be all over this like nobody’s business.

rikersbeard
1 year 5 months ago

There might be something in the medicals that make teams feel just too uneasy. it also depends on what he would want on a one year deal.

Jack
1 year 5 months ago

Yet the Orioles are in on him?

Peterborough Dave
1 year 5 months ago

I think he’d give up 50 homers pitching in the Rogers centre.

0vercast
1 year 5 months ago

The QO system strikes again! This guy should’ve been signed months ago.

1oriolefan
1 year 5 months ago

And he would have if he wasn’t so high and mighty on his price. He isn’t worth 4/50. Him not being signed is his own fault.

0vercast
1 year 5 months ago

None of the guys are “worth” it. But compared to Ricky Nolasco, Ubaldo Jimenez, and Matt Garza, Ervin Santana can certainly hold his own.

Seamaholic
1 year 5 months ago

Yup, if those guys are worth $50m, Santana most certainly is as well.

Jeremy Ackerman
1 year 5 months ago

Depending on division. AL Central had bigger parks smaller bats and East has bigger bats smaller parks. Shields has more success in the central cause he gives up less homers playing in the big park. Also sounds like Santana ucl is a ticking time bomb with him fighting through it and strengthening it himself. Too many major concerns for the big money.

Dalton
1 year 5 months ago

Shield did not have any more success in the Central than he did in the East and the East clearly has the better offenses during his time there.

Jeremy Ackerman
1 year 5 months ago

I said that the AL east has better power hitters. And yes Shields had a better season only giving up 20 homers the lowest total since 2006 his rookie season compared to a few years ago when he gave up 34. So yes I feel Santana will be less successful in the east because he gives up a lot of homeruns and now he will pitch in smaller parks and face more power hitters.

"Bobby"
1 year 5 months ago

The Tribe better get off their rear. This is getting sick!

dylanp5030
1 year 5 months ago

If he gets a 1/15 million dollar deal, it’s essentially 2/30 right? I mean he could just accept a QO every year. It’s a pretty good deal for him.

dylanp5030
1 year 5 months ago

Although he should have gotten guaranteed at least 4/50.

section 34
1 year 5 months ago

Should have? Really? Says who, other than Santana and his former agent?

brian310
1 year 5 months ago

Lol right?

Area51
1 year 5 months ago

There were only so many teams that were willing to give up their draft pick. Essentially, he was left without a chair when the music stopped.

Maybe he could have been more flexible, such as agreeing to 3 years and giving a club option for a 4th with a decent buyout ($4M?).

Santana’s inconsistency ultimately is the aspect that scares buyers.

I’m not sure there are any teams willing to give up a #1 for a 1-year rental either.

Teams surrendering lower picks – If KC and the Mets aren’t interested, who’s left? Maybe the Yankees, since there is some concern about Sabathia.

Dynasty22
1 year 5 months ago

Players would rather have security than go year to year.

JoeyBats13
1 year 5 months ago

and if he has a bad year/ gets injured, so much for that.

dylanp5030
1 year 5 months ago

Yeah. That’s definitely the risk and why I posted the other comment. But if he produces, he can still make a ton of money. This system has to be fixed.

Aaron Johnson
1 year 5 months ago

unless he ever gets hurt. That’s why players hate to play on 1 year deals. And from what I hear, he’s got some elbow issues, probably why he wanted to get more years

westcoastwhitesox
1 year 5 months ago

Sounds like Santana’s big mistake was hiring an agent named Bean Stringfellow.

brian310
1 year 5 months ago

Seems legit

Area51
1 year 5 months ago

Ha ha ha!

String him along until he has nobody!

John Kreese
1 year 5 months ago

If I’m Santana I go to the highest bidder. Period. At 31 teams know what kind of pitcher he is. One year playing for a team that may give him a ton of run support won’t change a future contract.

0vercast
1 year 5 months ago

That high-scoring team might put a couple more wins in his win column. That will help him get a big payday.

stl_cards16
1 year 5 months ago

Thankfully, baseball has moved past this being true.

0vercast
1 year 5 months ago

Phil Hughes would wholeheartedly agree with you.

LazerTown
1 year 5 months ago

I think Hughes is living off his potential. He is still young, but YS is not the place for him.

stl_cards16
1 year 5 months ago

The Twins didn’t pay Phil Hughes because of his wins. They paid him because of his solid numbers outside of Yankee Stadium. If he can limit HR’s, he’s a pretty good pitcher. A nice fit for that division and park..

0vercast
1 year 5 months ago

I agree, and I’m quite happy with the signing, but for the most part, I think it would very likely help Santana to pad his win column going into FA next year. Baseball may be moving on from that line of thinking, but it has not moved on entirely quite yet. At least not in my opinion.

Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
1 year 5 months ago

Well, I guess the Orioles could use him.
Heck, I still can’t figure why the Royals just don’t sign him.

snake
1 year 5 months ago

Dear Ervin, STOP TALKING TO KEN ROSENTHAL Sincerely, Your Savings Account

westcoastwhitesox
1 year 5 months ago

😀

dieharddodgerfan
1 year 5 months ago

Man, draft pick compensation really screwed up Santana’s market value.

He’d have gotten a lot more interest and some legit long-term offers if he didn’t have the compensation tied to him.

Signing a 1 yr deal just puts Santana back in the same place (or worse off) a year from now.

mstrchef13
1 year 5 months ago

Santana (and/or his agent) screwed up Santana’s market value.

Vivid_Reality
1 year 5 months ago

I talked over this exact scenario with a friend a month ago. He should sign with a club with no playoff hopes, such as the Cubs. He gets traded midseason and is freed of the QO next season. The Cubs in theory get better value for the 2nd rounder in the form of a prospect closer to the majors. They lose the slot money but really it is a gamble for both sides.

Seamaholic
1 year 5 months ago

Exactly. What he is doing is setting himself up to be traded. He probably has some multi-year offers at unexciting dollar amounts out there, but he wants a clean shot at FA at age 32 and no draft pick attached.

JoeyBats13
1 year 5 months ago

Now’s your chance AA, unless you’re truly confident in the group you currently have.

GoRav114
1 year 5 months ago

The Orioles will get this done by Monday. 1/16

mstrchef13
1 year 5 months ago

No chance in Hades that the O’s give him $16MM, even on a one year deal.

GoRav114
1 year 5 months ago

AJ Burnett is worth one year at 16 but Ervin Santana is not? Ervin is younger and had arguably a better year last year pitching in the AL. The draft pick compensation is irrelevant for the orioles since the pick is in the 90’s. 16 seems like a lot but not unrealistic.

mstrchef13
1 year 5 months ago

It’s the flyballs (Santana) vs groundballs (Burnett).

The_Unnatural
1 year 5 months ago

January 16, 2015 is a Friday, not a Monday.

MilkMeMore
1 year 5 months ago

16jan2017 is a monday…

Dynasty22
1 year 5 months ago

He is refering to the contract terms.

GoRav114
1 year 5 months ago

uhh.. one year 16 million not January 16 considering we are in March

0vercast
1 year 5 months ago

Perhaps the Red Sox would be interested in renting Santana with the money that would’ve otherwise gone to Dempster.

Croagnut
1 year 5 months ago

And give up 27th pick, when they covet them so much. Not likely.

BROC
1 year 5 months ago

Toronto Blue Jays, Seattle Mariners or Baltimore Orioles could sign Ervin Santana….

Shawn Baublitz
1 year 5 months ago

I’d be less interested in Santana on a 1 year deal. Giving up a draft pick for 1 season isn’t worth it.

dieharddodgerfan
1 year 5 months ago

Lol, yeah, that’s the irony there. Teams may actually not want to give up a 1st round pick for only 1 year of service.

The draft pick compensation tied to Santana has really hurt him.

section 34
1 year 5 months ago

Not sure I agree with that. Did it hurt Jimenez? He got 4 years, $50 million even though it cost the Orioles a draft pick.

What has hurt Santana is that not even one team seems to think he’s as valuable as he thinks he is. If he had sought Kyle Lohse money in December, starting from that platform he could have started a bidding war. Maybe he would have gotten Jimenez money if he had started off at a reasonable price.

But is Santana worth more than Jimenez and Garza (no draft pick) and Nolasco (no draft pick)? He might think so, but it doesn’t seem there’s a single team that agrees.

Seamaholic
1 year 5 months ago

No. Signing him for one year actually makes the draft pick less significant, because unless his arm falls off he will be eminently tradeable mid-season, and you get much more for him than a 2nd rounder is worth. He will go to a top ten draft pick team (or the Jays) on one year, then get traded (unless that team is unexpectedly good).

pft2
1 year 5 months ago

Plenty of teams would not be giving up a 1st round pick, about 1/2 would only give up a 2nd round pick or later. Yankees, Orioles, Rays, Mets, Rangers, etc

Koby2
1 year 5 months ago

There is no reason for the Royals to not be in on him for this season if he will do a 1 year deal. If they really are “all in” then this is a worthy risk. If he does falter and does follow his every other year of being good, so be it. Even if he goes to league average production, having 2-3 league average guys (Santana, Guthrie, and Vargas, though it’s debatable on how long those last 2 will be league average or below), a way above average in Shields and a possible lightning bolt in Ventura, with Duffy waiting in the wings and Zimmer polishing/staying uninjured in the minors, makes the outlook look a hell of a lot better. But it’s doubtful it happens and is more of a pipe dream.

0vercast
1 year 5 months ago

Agreed. I’m really hoping he ends up back in KC. If the stars (finally) align for them, they might be able to give the Tigers a good run for their money.

MadmanTX
1 year 5 months ago

Santana should have said something before the Rangers signed Saunders.

0vercast
1 year 5 months ago

Saunder’s contract is heavily based on incentives. They could cut him loose right now and wouldn’t stand to lose a whole lot, only $250,000 I believe.

Sypherman
1 year 5 months ago

Well the Orioles wasted their first and second round picks. I say, if the price is right, bring him in also seeing how it’s only going to cost you a third round pick now.

Aaron Johnson
1 year 5 months ago

Wasted? Interesting…..how so?

1 year 5 months ago

With their drafting and development history, the O’s were guaranteed two HOF’ers.