The Padres keep trying to find the perfect roster mix to supplement their rising young talent.
Major League Signings
- Drew Pomeranz, LHP: four years, $34MM
- Craig Stammen, RHP: two years, $9MM (includes $1MM buyout of $4MM club option for 2022)
- Pierce Johnson, RHP: two years, $5MM (includes $1MM buyout of $3MM club option for 2022)
- Total spend: $48MM
Trades and Claims
- Acquired OF Tommy Pham and INF Jake Cronenworth from Rays in exchange for OF Hunter Renfroe, INF Xavier Edwards and INF Esteban Quiroz (as PTBNL)
- Acquired RHP Emilio Pagan from Rays in exchange for OF Manuel Margot and C/OF Logan Driscoll
- Acquired OF Trent Grisham and RHP Zach Davies from Brewers in exchange for 2B/SS Luis Urias and LHP Eric Lauer
- Acquired 2B Jurickson Profar from Athletics in exchange for C Austin Allen and OF Buddy Reed (as PTBNL)
- Claimed INF Breyvic Valera off waivers from the Blue Jays
Notable Minor League Signings
- Abraham Almonte, Kyle Barraclough, Gordon Beckham (since released), Brian Dozier, Jerad Eickhoff, Seth Frankoff, Juan Lagares
Notable Losses
- Carl Edwards Jr., Robbie Erlin, Travis Jankowski, Ian Kinsler (retired), Aaron Loup, Kazuhisa Makita, Nick Margevicius, Bryan Mitchell, Chris Stewart, Robert Stock, Adam Warren, Eric Yardley
As usual, the Padres engaged in quite a lot of eyebrow-raising chatter this winter. There was talk at various points that the club was chasing trades involving Mookie Betts (see here), Kris Bryant (see here), Francisco Lindor (see here), Nick Senzel (same link), and Starling Marte (see here). In free agency, the Friars looked at veteran southpaws Madison Bumgarner and Dallas Keuchel … and also considered another in David Price as part of various trade scenarios.
There’s no new star in San Diego, but that probably wasn’t necessary for an organization that last year welcomed Manny Machado and oversaw the emergence of Fernando Tatis Jr. and Chris Paddack. It might have been nice to announce a new, long-term pact with Tatis. The San Diego organization built up some good will by promoting him to start the 2019 season — that’ll also ensure a full season of 2020 service even if the campaign isn’t played — but couldn’t make apparent headway in talks this winter.
While committing distant future money to a franchise star would’ve been possible, the Friars didn’t have much near-term payroll space to work with. The Padres tried but failed to deal Wil Myers to achieve greater flexibility, so for now they’re left saddled with the remaining three years and $61MM on his heavily back-loaded contract. After a bunch of non-tender decisions and some mostly modest salary additions, the team is sitting at about $144MM in cash payroll for 2020.
So, what did Padres GM A.J. Preller accomplish in his sixth offseason at the helm of baseball operations? Much of the work was in a set of four interesting swaps with three value-focused trade partners.
Most of all, Preller swung an outfield overhaul. Tommy Pham and Trent Grisham each came over as part of multi-player trades that defy characterization as “buy” or “sell”-side transactions for either the Padres or their respective trade partners in Tampa Bay and Milwaukee.
Pham is only controlled for two more seasons, but he could contribute a ton of excess value if he keeps hitting. He’ll replace Hunter Renfroe, one of the players for whom he was traded. Grisham brings a lot more long-term control and some real promise but isn’t nearly as established. He’ll slot into the mix at all three outfield spots, perhaps pairing with minor-league signee Juan Lagares to handle much of the work in center. Otherwise, the Friars will shrug and hope for the best from Myers and oft-injured youngster Francy Cordero. Another young left-handed slugger, Josh Naylor, could also factor into the mix. With a strong showing in the upper minors (if a season is played there), well-regarded prospect Taylor Trammell could force his way into the picture at some point.
As is the case for much of the rest of the San Diego roster, it’s possible to imagine the outfield unit playing at quite a high level … or being rather a marginal outfit. There’s decidedly more star power in the infield, though perhaps the outlook comes with the same sort of qualifications.
Barring injury, the left side of the infield will be occupied almost exclusively by aforementioned wunderkind Tatis and top-dollar star Machado. Greg Garcia is the primary reserve/fill-in option, with Ty France and newcomer Jake Cronenworth also on the 40-man. Francisco Mejia and Austin Hedges remain entrenched behind the dish, with hopes one or both will make strides in 2020. At first base, the Pads may ultimately have to decide whether to reduce the time of the disappointing Eric Hosmer. It’s arguable that the best alignment would involve a time share between Hosmer and Myers, however hard that would be to swallow given each former Royal’s weighty contract.
Ian Kinsler’s decision to elect retirement after a tough 2019 showing unexpectedly cleared some salary and seemed to pave a path to regular at-bats for top prospect Luis Urias — but the club obviously didn’t fully believe in him as a replacement. He ended up departing in the Grisham swap. The Padres gave up a bit of young talent to take over the final season of arbitration eligibility of Jurickson Profar, a formerly elite prospect (from back when he and Preller were with the Rangers organization) who was a mostly uninspiring performer in 2019. He’ll battle at second base with minor-league signee Brian Dozier. It wouldn’t be surprising to see that situation ultimately end up in a timeshare (with Garcia, France, and/or Cronenworth potentially involved).
Those aforementioned outfield moves spelled the end of the line for Manuel Margot in San Diego. He ended up being shipped out along with 2019 second-rounder Logan Driscoll in order to acquire reliever Emilio Pagan. The late-blooming Pagan brings highly appealing K/BB numbers and a big swinging-strike rate out west, but it seems rather curious that he will now be on his fourth MLB team in four seasons. Pagan carried an unsustainable strand rate (94.8%) to reach a 2.31 ERA last year and has been rather prone to the long ball (1.58 per nine for his career).
The Padres have visions of Pagan joining closer Kirby Yates to form a powerful combination of late-inning righties. Completing the high-leverage mix is southpaw Drew Pomeranz, who rode his second-half surge to a much bigger-than-expected contract and a surprising return to San Diego. The 31-year-old was flat-out dominant down the stretch, but it was still stunning to see the Friars go to a four-year guarantee to lure him. Further bullpen-building came in the form of more modest two-year pacts to bring back Craig Stammen and add interesting NPB returnee Pierce Johnson, who whiffed 91 hitters through 58 2/3 innings en route to a 1.38 ERA with the Hanshin Tigers in Japan last season.
The depth seems like it’ll be necessary. Young hurlers Andres Munoz and Reggie Lawson were each lost to Tommy John surgery in camp. The Padres can still turn to a host of other young arms, but most come with questions. Southpaw Matt Strahm (who has much better career numbers as a reliever) and converted infielder Javy Guerra seem likely to join the ’pen once the season begins. Luis Perdomo, Adrian Morejon, Michel Baez, Ronald Bolanos, David Bednar, Jose Castillo, Trey Wingenter, and Gerardo Reyes and sixth starter Cal Quantrill are all 40-man options as well — some with real upside — but you’d have a hard time arguing any as sure things.
That leaves a rotation mix that mostly went untouched over the winter. The Friars did bring in Zach Davies while parting with Eric Lauer as the other half of the Grisham/Urias swap. It’s too much to expect a repeat of his 2019 showing (31 starts of 3.55 ERA ball), but Davies should be a solid part of the staff. The same holds true of Joey Lucchesi, who returns along with the upside-laden trio of Paddack, Garrett Richards, and Dinelson Lamet to form quite an interesting rotation mix. It would be even more exciting to see this group in a full season, when it could be supplemented by top prospects MacKenzie Gore and Luis Patino, but that’s all coming soon enough.
2020 Season Outlook
It’s awfully tough to look at this roster and see a threat to the powerhouse Dodgers. But all bets are off in a short-season format, which is likely all we’ll get if the 2020 season is played at all. And there’s reason for the Padres to hope they’ve done enough at least to compete for a Wild Card spot, though it’s a crowded NL field and it’ll be tough to make mid-season improvements given the (seeming) lack of payroll breathing room.
How would MLBTR fans grade the Padres’ offseason dealings? (Link to poll for Trade Rumors mobile app users)
Pomeranz was a bit of an overpay
Overpaying is what the Padres do. Preller bids high when nobody else is even showing interest.
See Eric Hosmer. The guy visited San Diego while with the Royals and had a good series. So guess who rushes out to sign him?
SUE PRELLER FOR NEGLIGENCE FOR TRADING AWAY LUIS URIAS!!!!!!!!!!!!
I sense a lot of anger with this one^
“Gooooood. Let the hate flow through you.” MikeEmbletonSmellsBad certainly does. He will be the next Vader.
Yes. Keep defending your son Mrs. Preller.
Ad hominem Mike.
@Javia try looking in a mirror sometime.
Seems like that is what I just said to you Mike. There is more to life than just A.J. Preller. We get it. You hate him. HATE!!!! Can we move on now?
Reminds me of that idiot Angels fan who I haven’t seen on here in months who would do nothing on here except for bashing Billy Eppler.
He reminds me of the drunk, inappropriate Uncle who shows up to and ruins every family function.
@Javia I don’t know him. But there is no denying that he is a horrible GM and that the Padres will never contend as long as he is in his current position.
And there is more to life than defending your son A. J. Preller against people you don’t know on an Internet comment page.
Calling me Preller’s mother? That kindergarten level right there Mike. I am embarrassed for you.
Also, I have been telling you again and again to get over your hatred of Preller and that there is more to life than attacking him on this site. Now you are trying to use my words? Please, get your own ideas and get a hobby. Your hatred and unhappiness makes you unpleasant to be around. If you don’t believe me, read any of the many comments other people have posted about you.
I’m calling you Preller’s mother because you ARE Preller’s mother, Mrs. Preller. It’s not a dig. There is no other reason why you would so vehemently defend him on here.
Again, not hatred, just realistic. Preller sucks as a GM. Sorry you are delusional and can’t see that.
Kindergarten Mike. Kindergarten. I am sorry the other child took your lollipop. Get over it.
You flunked out of it.
Seriously Mike? You would have to crawl back into your mother’s womb to get any more immature!
You are the human equivalent of a participation ribbon.
Ah… this is the life. Quietly observing two adults casting insults at each other online after vehemently arguing and predictably failing to come up with a collaborative solution. Sometimes I reckon that’s the only reason I bother to create a commenting account, just to observe this sort of thing happening.
What, are you getting your jokes out of a joke book printed in 1987 now? It’s over. If you bother to read any of the comments other than your own you will find that all of the many people who have responded to you have disagreed with you. Could it be that you have the minority opinion? Could it be that you just might be wrong? Think about it. And lay off the insults. You have lost there too.
Yeah, it’s been over for a long time now. Do yourself a favor and quit while you are far behind. You are living proof that it’s better to keep your mouth shut and let the world think you are stupid than to open your mouth and prove them right.
And you know who else had the minority opinion? Galileo. da Vinci. Mendel. Should they have just given up too?
I have many people who agree with me on this forum. You? Not so much. I know you like to just take shots without facing reality but one of these days you really should try looking in the mirror.
Seriously? You are trying to put yourself in the company of Galileo and da Vinci? They were geniuses. You are not. There have been billions upon billions of other human beings who have also held the minority opinion. They are not famous, you have never heard their names. Do you know why? Because they were wrong. As you are.
“I have many people who agree with me on this forum.”
So? Again. It’s all just an opinion. And one not backed up by facts.
“I know you like to just take shots without facing reality but one of these days you really should try looking in the mirror.”
Wow did you really just copy something I said a few hours ago? Come on Mrs. Preller, you can do better than that.
“Seriously? You are trying to put yourself in the company of Galileo and da Vinci?”
Actually I’m just pointing out that holding a minority opinion doesn’t automatically make you wrong.
“Because they were wrong. As you are.”
We’ll see about that.
Really? You are going to continue referring to me as Mrs. Preller are you? You are just getting pathetic.
It’s your name.
Children. Why your parents don’t ground you I will never know.
Excuse me? I’m pretty sure I’m at least twice as old as you. If not a lot MORE!
Try acting like it.
I have to dumb down my responses so you can understand them.
That’s what every kid riding the short bus says.
This is just straight-up hilarious now. I thought the argument was over.
@Javia and you’d know.
@13yearoldbaseballfanatic Hey I’m just keeping this nutjob entertained so she doesn’t go out and hurt somebody in her sad life.
🙂
You should probably both just apologize to each other and talk it out. I’ll serve as moderator.
Try acting like an adult MikeEmbletonSmellsBad.
Like I said. I have to dumb down my responses otherwise you won’t understand them.
Act like an adult MikeEmbletonSmellsBad.
You already said that Mrs. Preller.
Can someone block these two already?
My name is not Mrs. Preller. Please act like an adult MikeEmbletonSmellsBad.
The type of comments you put out there are the type of comments you are going to get back Mrs. Preller.
If you will notice, I stopped that kind of behavior 3 hours ago. Now, are you able to do the same? I see you had to throw the “Mrs. Preller” in there again, so maybe you are unable to control yourself. I hope I am wrong.
Right. We’ll see how long that lasts.
Don’t try talking sense Padre fans love Preller with his prospects they have inside knowledge every prospect turnd out great. They even mix in minor league #’s to MLB # making argument
you mean AAAA Urias? what a loss
Shhh don’t tell Padre fans that. They were convinced he was the next Jeff Kent
Jose Altuve is a better comparison of what Padres fans were hoping Urias would wind up being. Just never seemed to be able to figure it out.
@All American Johnsonville Dogs Hard to figure it out in 302 sporadic plate appearances while getting jerked around the diamond at age 22
Oh, so now a guy is a AAAA player after 302 major league PA’s at age 22? Good to know buddy.
Let’s play a game!
.141/.281/.242/.523, -0.4 WAR
.223/.329/.326/.655, 1.0 WAR
Can you tell me which player(s) each slash line belongs to?
Ian Kinsler is player A
Luis Urias is player B?
You got one of them right
Which one is player A?
Luis Urias is trash lol
Guess we know one of the accounts A. J. Preller uses to comment on this site.
Who is Mike Embleton and why are you smelling him?
Some dude on the San Diego Padres Facebook page. Mike Embleton is an avid and enthusiastic super fan.
This person probably lost arguments on facebook to him repeatedly or is jealous Embleton gets more likes than they do on Facebook.
Confirmed Mike Embleton is All American Johnsonville Dogs
I’m actually not. But I’ve seen him get into it with fans on Facebook. It’s entertaining reading some of the conversations between him and others. He’s a die hard Padres fan.
Knowing he made you rage so hard that you created an mlbtr account, that he will probably never see, is even more hilarious.
Given his use of ALL CAPS to kick this whole thing off is pretty telling. There really is a lot of anger with this guy and it’s kinda sad to see. Stress on kinda.
@All American Johnsonville Dogs Yup. It’s definitely you Mike.
Mike, Javia, Dogs
You all suck equally. No need to fight. I don’t care for any of you!
The king of sucking has spoken. All hail his suckness assumefactsnotinevidence. May his suck reign.
Awesome. I’ll file that under I don’t give a damn.
File away saturated fat sticks! You’ll be dead before you see 45 anyway!
File away saturated fat sticks? Dude lay off the drugs and alcohol. You’re slurring your sentences. File away saturated fats? That’s not how it works. That’s not how any of this works.
That one was a gamble. Preller will look pretty bad if Uriah’s becomes a star in Milwaukee and Grisham is DFA’d.
So just focusing on the short term (ie, 2020 season) on field improvements (ie ignoring contracts) it’s hard not to give Preller an A. The WAR delta over the 2019 squad could approach 25 if some of the youngsters play to their potential, and probably has a floor of close to 15 just because of the defense, base running and obp some of the newcomers bring. The rotation has some almost alarming upside, as 80% of it could post k/9 numbers north of 10. The bullpen is loaded with former top 100 prospect flame throwers that debuted last season, and could really be a deep unit, to say nothing of providing extra rotation depth.
When you do factor in the long term, including contracts, there’s some things not to like. The Myers and Hosmer contracts are still not great, though they clearly aren’t crippling the team either. Pomeranz seems a bit expensive, and a few of the acquisitions don’t have a lot of contract left, notably Profar, Davies and Pham, but they are all fairly high floor guys that mostly cost extra parts or extreme-ends players (ie, Renfroe’s one dimensional batter profile), so you don’t feel terrible about that.
In grading their offseason, I’m not sure it’s fair to count players who were already with the organization last year. Sure, I expect them to continue to improve, but if we’re just going with new blood, I’d say he did ok, but could have done more.
Their winning percentage is going to be worse than 2019’s. Watch it happen.
Yes. They shipped out K machines in Renfroe and Reyes to bring in players with more obp ability in Grisham and Pham.
They are looking at a healthier rotation with Lamet and Richard.
The pen is quite possibly better than last year with a full season from Strahm in the pen, adding Pomeranz, Pagan, bringing back Stammen, and still retaining Yates.
And they hopefully get a full season of Tatis Jr.
But yes they’ll be worse than 2019.
You know what they say..opinions are like buttholes. Everyone’s got one and most of them stink. Which suits your username perfectly.
Bravo All American! I agree 100%.
Tommy Pham is 32 (see: decline years) and needs Tommy John surgery.
Richards sucks.
Tatis is always hurt just like Pham.
Oh Javia agrees? Well that settles it.
Tatis is always hurt? He’s played 1 season where they didn’t rush him back from his I jury……how can a player always be hurt when they haven’t played long enough to always be hurt? Frenchy Cordero is always hurt. Travis Jankowski was always hurt….because they’ve missed time over the course of several seasons to qualify as being always hurt.
Pham needs Tommy John? Yeah, going to bet when the doctors from both teams did their medicals the rays felt confident in renfroes foot injury and Padres felt confident in phams elbow to go through with the trade. I’m going to trust doctors that examined pham, said ok, and proceeded with the trade. You do realize teams do a medical examination before trades are finalized right? Also, his power may decrease with age, but obp isn’t an age dependent metric like speed and power. Also, batters can play through ucl injuries. Ohtani did and played while recovering. Granted his was a DH but elbows are different for hitters.
Thanks for that awesome in-depth analysis of Garrett Richards Johny Superscout. Counter point based on facts not your opinion: when healthy Richards posted between on average a 2 to 3.7 run average based on era fip and xfip. He may never regain his ace form he did with the Angels but if Padres were to do a 5th day time share with him and another starter (3 or 4 innings) he’d limit his workload and if he gave them 2-3.7 production over 100 innings that’d be great production from the 5th spot. But yes that 8.2 inning he posted coming off Tommy John really tells us a lot about Richards…
It’s funny isn’t it? MikeEmbletonSmellsBad wants us to reserve judgement on Luis Urias for more than 302-AB, yet when it comes to Tatis 334-AB is more than enough. I guess that 32-AB difference is critical. Also Richards 8.2 IP is more than enough. I guess you can tell instantly about pitchers. Could it be…just possibly….that MikeEmbletonSmellsBad has a bias against the Padres? I know it’s a stretch.
@All American Johnsonville Dogs…
Tatis was injury prone as a prospect too. You might be a Padres fan but clearly not an informed one if you didn’t already know that.
On Pham, you know he’s got a UCL injury and you know it’s going to necessitate Tommy John surgery. Eventually. There is no DH in the NL and he’s not going to be able to throw the ball back into the infield with a busted UCL. And absolutely OBP is age dependent. It affects your power, which means more of your batted balls that would have gone out are caught on the warning track and it affects your speed, which means you beat out fewer infield singles.
Something like 20% of all pitchers who get Tommy John surgery are as good as they were before the surgery. Sure, it was only a 9-inning sample size, but it sure wasn’t good. We’ll see how ends up doing in 2020, if there even is a 2020 MLB season.
@Javia…
Tatis has spent more than enough time on the DL/IL dating back to his days as a prospect to earn the injury prone label. He is great when he is on the field but you know what they say. The best type of ability is availability.
I want the Padres to win more than anything and that’s just not going to happen with A. J. Preller at the helm.
And Richards Mike? “Richard’s sucks” is a pretty definitive statement. Got anything to back it up?
His ERA in 2019, the statistical likelihood of a pitcher who had Tommy John surgery making it back and being as good as he was before Tommy John surgery and his lengthy injury history.
His ERA in 2019 was based on 8.2 innings. If you base any player evaluation on an example of 8.2 innings you are an idiot. The likelihood of a pitcher being good after TJ surgery? Ask Chris Paddack, Walker Buehler, AJ Puk, Jesus Luzardo, David Wells, Erik Gagne, John Smoltz, Adam Wainwright, Steven Strasburg and the best pitcher in mlb-Jacob DeGrom. Shall I go on? As for injuries he has had a couple of lesser ones, which is pretty common over a 9 year career. He also a couple of years trying to pitch through a torn UCL. He got PRP shots and tried to pitch through it. Now that his UCL has been replaced his only real injury problem in his career is fixed.
Too bad Tommy John surgery couldn’t help Homer Bailey, Anderson Espinoza, Joe Wieland, Casey Kelly, Shelby Miller, Barret Loux, Neftali Feliz, Andrew McKirahan, Bronson Arroyo, Jameson Taillon, Matt Moore, Jeff Hoffman, Josh Johnson, Kris Medlen, Brady Aiken, Tyler Chatwood, Jharel Cotton, Jeremy Hefner, Brandon Beachy, Brian Wilson, Jarrod Parker, Pedro Figueroa, Peter Moylan, Sean Burnett, Rafael Montero and Johnny Cueto *draws breath*
Wow. A whole 2 of those guys were good BEFORE TJ surgery.
Even you know that’s a lie.
Tatis’ August injury wasn’t all that serious. He could probably have returned to the lineup last year, but the Padres were already out of contention. What’s the point? Let him heal up and be 100% for 2020.
It wasn’t a bad offseason, per se, but it feels like they’re slow-playing their way back to contention. Very deep in young talent, but some of that talent is already up and a few more guys are close. They had the chance to take a big step forward like the White Sox and Reds seem to have done and didn’t make huge changes.
Who do you think they should have picked up? They picked up the best of what they could from the available pieces. They made some quality additions. Not world beaters, but quality. Sure they could have traded Gore and Patino and gotten a high quality bat…for a year or two. That’s nowhere near the value of 6 years of both a #1 a and #2 starter that they would have given up. Preller did well with what he had to work with. Pagan looks like an absolute steal.
1. Never in a million years would the Padres have traded Gore and Patino this offseason. That would be the one of the dumbest things that any franchise has done, ever. I am not suggesting that you wanted the Padres to trade Gore and Patino, I am just astounded that you thought that it would be even remotely plausible.
2. They acquired Pagan from the Rays. You are not accounting for the black magic surrounding trades with the Rays. For all you know Kevin Kiermaier will somehow get into a freak accident and be unable to play, Margot will become the starting centre fielder for the Rays and win the MVP for the next 5 years, and Pagan will become the reliever version of Matt Harvey (on the field, not off the field).
3. Logan Driscoll seems exactly like the kind of mysterious prospect that the Rays suddenly make super good and it comes out of nowhere.
4. They were stupid for signing Hosmer, the jury is still out on Machado, and Pomeranz is a huge overpay.
5. I needed to vent my frustration over my current life situation on someone. Due apologies for any offense.
Actually I heard Patiño’s name being mentioned in trade talks hundreds of times. Just because it doesn’t happen doesn’t mean Preller wasn’t considering it.
Gore? Yeah, he’s not getting traded.
Every GM in baseball has probably inquired about Patiño. That doesn’t mean those conversations are going anywhere.
Slow rolling it? The padres are where they are because they keep moving too fast.
I’ve had the MAGITEK FACILITY THEME from FFwhatever stuck in my head all day.
San Diego is a hard team to figure.
Long term, I think they are in good shape with their current roster and the wave of young players on their way shortly.
Short term, this team has as high a ceiling as anyone provided everything falls into place. If things don’t pan out, I can’t decide if the floor drops out from underneath them or if they have enough pieces to weather the storm.
I’m hoping the next 4-7 years are the best in Padre history. Either way, they should be entertaining the next several years.
Padres are still a few years away, IMO. If this were an ordinary season, the Dodgers would win 100+ games, the Diamondbacks would win 85-90 and the Padres, Giants and Rockies would be competing for third place.
They need to settle their outfield situation. Pham is obviously not a long term solution and will be 34 and be gone after the 2021 season. Pitching is looking better, but those young starters need to get some innings and experience.
AJ Preller didn’t make a lot of smart baseball moves but he did get a Pierced Johnson.
Of course I did not want the Padres to trade either Gore or Patino. I was making a point to hyraxwithaflamethrower. He said the Padres “had a chance to take a big step forward.” My point is that big steps require making major signing or trades, and both are very expensive. The Padres could have signed an ACE like Strasburg in free agency, but he would have cost them $250 million and ownership wasn’t willing to pay for it. Since he didn’t have big money to spend on FA, his only way to make big improvements is through trades. A major trade would cost us a future ACE, and possibly also a future #2. 6 years of each. Therefore, a major trade is not worth it. Therefore, Preller didn’t have the ability to do any more than he did. And he did pretty well. I gave him a solid B.
I give him a solid B for the Hosmer deal and an A++ for the Machado signing. The Wil Myers contract is a solid B+.
But this Craig Stammen deal, WOW what an albatross. F for this offseason.
F for Hosmer, F for Myers, C, maybe B for Machado. C for this offseason.
Hosmer F- , Machado C , Myers F- , Pomeranz , C
Additional random, arbitrary alphabetics!
The fact that nobody understands sarcasm never ceases to amaze me.
Yeah I don’t think you know that for a fact. That doesn’t amaze me.
I pulled out 3 serious responses from a ludicrous reply. Congratulations on being idiots
Hosmer- D-. I get that the Padres needed a LH bat and Hosmer was the best available, but Myers was playing well and comfortable at 1B. The Padres vastly overpayed for an average bat.
Machado- A Everyone in baseball wanted Manny Machado. All of a sudden he is worthless? I don’t think so. He is one of the best players in the game. You have to pay to get those.
Myers- C. Hindsight is 20/20. He was just at the edge of being a 30/30 guy when they signed him. Those guys are hugely valuable. Example: The only guys who did it in 2019 were Yelich and Acuna. Everyone likes to believe they knew he would fall off a cliff, but nobody really did.
Pomeranz- B. Anytime you sign a free agent, you always overpay. Pomerantz has great numbers as a reliever and his stuff ticked way up. If he continues putting up similar numbers he will be well worth the price.
This is for this offseason.
Myers sucked at 1B and sucks as player
How the hell did 52% vote B!?
They got better at the big league level without moving anything they’ll miss, except Urias, which is still a weird move to me.
Debatable on them getting better. And they’ll also miss Renfroe and Edwards.
yeah they got better but they really needed to do better than they did this offseason.
Hopefully the Padres can trade Frankoff, Dozier and Barraclough for something of value.
Tommy Pham trade looking worse by the day
C
Pom I’m not crazy about. His relief work, up until September, was good but not great. He earned $34M by having a historic September with a 25/1 K/W in 13.1 IPs. But it is still just one month of top-tier work.
The Urias trade, imho, will turn out to be a mistake. Grisham was the #15 overall, so he is not without talent, but that was still back in 2015. Urias is no lock, but he’s been highly ranked more recently than Grisham.
It is the Pham trade that I really don’t like. Renfroe had 27 HRs in 266 ABs at the AS break. That’s unbelievably good.
For all the trades, and moving some young guys, they don’t seem to have done much to upgrade either 2nd or CF.
Then why a C? You dislike every move they made.
1-I didn’t completely hate the moves.
2-There is a lot of variance in these trades. A guy like Urias could be a bust. It’s like moving all in with 20 outs on the river, early in a HE tournament. I wouldn’t like it, but it doesn’t get an F.
I gave the Padres a C for their offseason moves. I didn’t think that all the Padres moves that they made were necessary (Profar, Stammen, Pomeranz).
The money spent on these players could have been used for more important purposes imo.
The trade of Margot for Pagán was the best move that the Padres made this offseason.
I agree that Pagan was the best move, just because it was so lopsided. I also really liked the Tommy Pham trade. They really needed his on base ability and I don’t think Renfroe was going to be a part of their future with his .300-OBP. Sure we have added value with Edwards but he was farther away and we got a guy closer to the majors in Cronenworth. Profar was unnecessary but they needed someone for 2B and it didn’t cost much of anything. As for Stammen and Pomeranz you can never have enough relief pitching. We have seen the benefit with the Andres Munoz TJ surgery.
Javia strikes again about how Jake Cronenworth is better than Xavier Edwards. Is he better than C.J. Abrams too? He’s even further from the majors.
I didn’t say Cronenworth was better. I said he was closer to the majors, which is what the Padres need right now. Please act like an adult MikeEmbletonSmellsBad.
Alrighty then. Xavier Edwards to the Tigers for Isaac Paredes. Tell your son to make it happen Mrs. Preller!
Casting aspersions is immature. If you wish to respond to me, please reply with a comment of substance on the issue being discussed. Thank you.
I was under the assumption that since you have largely made s**tpost quality comments, you didn’t actually want to have a substantial discussion.
I think Javia is a homer, but he didn’t say Cronenworth was better. He said, and I quote:
“but he was farther away and we got a guy closer to the majors in Cronenworth.”
There is a lot of merit to that argument. According to FG, Edwards ETA is 2023. Cron’s ETA is 2020.
So?
So?
You said, and again, I quote, “Javia strikes again about how Jake Cronenworth is better than Xavier Edwards. ”
After having read my previous post, you should be well aware that your statement, and therefore all your subsequent arguments, are incorrect.
I will ask again. No more insults like “s**tpost quality comments” or “Mrs. Preller.” Discussions of substance only. If you can respond for once without an insult I am happy to talk.
Again. “Mrs. Preller” isn’t an insult. I know you are Mrs. Preller so I am calling you Mrs. Preller.
Seriously, do you have tourettes or something? Are you physically unable to stop yourself from slinging insults? It is over. Done! Has been for hours. Please move on.
It’s game over when the other player bows out, ya schmuck.
Actually it is the intelligent, mature choice to say “let’s stop acting like children.” Annoying adults into submission with constant badgering is what children to to force their parents to buy them ice cream.
You know a thing or two about that don’t ya?
Put it to bed Mike. The insults stopped over 4 hours ago. Try to catch up.
As of your last comment, it had not been 4 hours since you accused me of having Tourettes and riding the short bus so…
Tired of the annoying “if the season is played at all”. It’s April and MLB didn’t cancel seasons for wars or other far more serious reasons than a disease with a 1% death rate for healthy people. It’s not cancelled and hasn’t been.
Big words it’s not happening move on see u 2021
The first and foremost goal of last winter was to unload Wil Myers.
FAIL.
Preller was needing to package him with someone like Urias.
FAIL.
I wonder if pro baseball (or any sportsball) will ever be played again in California. The supermajority seems to want things that limit crowds forever.
No one is taking Myers unless he comes with Patiño or higher
Very interesting comment. The commie leaders (Gruesome, Pelousy) in California want you freedomless and worshipping their every move. They really don’t like sports or you.
failed to get a SP, failed to cash in some chips to fix tbe minors logjam, (save Allen) overpaid Pom, and were at best break-even with their trades. absolute failure for a team in their position. D.
wow, regret reading all those posts. lot of senseless name-calling.