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Giants Scouting Crede, Inge

This morning we have reports that the Giants have recently scouted Joe Crede and Brandon Inge.  Even without a decent third baseman in the house, I don't really see the point of acquiring either guy.

On Sunday, the Boston Globe's Nick Cafardo noted that the Giants could be less likely to acquire Crede given the Noah Lowry injury.  Then on Monday, Kenny Williams mentioned that the two teams he'd discussed Crede with hadn't impressed with their offers. Williams suggested Crede could be his Opening Day third baseman, despite Josh Fields' worthiness.

Inge is the other veteran third base option for teams like the Giants and Dodgers.  But Inge bears almost four times the salary commitment, so the Tigers would have to eat some of it.  Or, as one MLBTR reader suggested to me, perhaps the Tigers would take on one of the Giants' many bad contracts in return.


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I think it's becoming more likely it's inge to the giants. But who would giant's fans most want to dump durham or roberts. I'd say roberts at this point but what do the tigers get out of this a pinch runner to get rid of a guy who wants out of town.

If Sabean was smart, he'd offer Dave Roberts. Follow this by trading Randy Winn to the Mets for nothing...That clears two spots in the OF for the kids to play. And frees up some money for next year when Aurilia and Durham are also off the books.

Do the Giants have a former Marlin on the team? Dombrowski would surely give up Inge for him.

As a non giants fan I would still think they wold be better off with
c Alfonzo
1b ortemier
2b fransden
ss vizquel
3b inge
lf lewis
cf rowand
rf davis
This of course would require them to move molina and winn but I think they have some value. If laird does then he does. I could see that team actually improving with a full year together. Just sit durhm and aurillia till their contracts go away.

As a Giants fan, the only reason I can see trading anyone for Crede is to open up some roster spots. Lewis *and* Davis in the outfield would be a much more fun Giants team to watch. That, or Lewis and Schierholtz. So, basically, if they give up Roberts or Durham, awesome. Anything else beside them plus a low-level prospect (non-pitching!), there's absolutely no reason to trade for a 3B. They could have Miguel Cabrera on the team and the Giants are still in dead last.

As for Inge, they shouldn't entertain the idea under any circumstances. Getting stuck with bad contracts, though, is Sabean's MO. With Crede, at least he'd be gone by end of year.

Also, as a Giants fan, I'd like to declare that I expect a historically bad season for them. Perhaps even the worst season of all time in the Major Leagues. In fact, that would be kind of entertaining to watch, and would (hopefully) guarantee Sabean's dismissal.

Hey, when they give ya nothing, you got to root for something, right?

You have to go bad contract for bad contract. That's why inge for roberts or durham makes sense. The whitesox want something for crede s there is no point in going there. Of course if the giants could dump all these contracts they would but we have to be semi realistic hereInge could still put up 20hr that would lead the team. He also plays a pretty decent 3b. Remember roberts has this year and 09 on contract so inge just adds a year but at this point he's better then their other options.

The Tigers would not want anything to do with a trade for Roberts or Durham. The only thing the tigers are looking for is bullpen and rotation depth. If they were looking to trade Inge for guys like those two, dont you think a deal would already have been done?

I think the tigers are in a position where beggars can't be chossers. The iants are not going to give anything of value for inge with that contract and the tigers have to move him.

The tigers are going to take a hit here they new this going into it this is probably the only way they will move inge at all.


I think Sabean shouldn't concentrate on Crede or Inge at all. I think he should look into Pierre, Crisp, and other speedy outfielders that are crap offensively. I think it's like collecting coins or stamps for to him. I also think they should think about signing Sexson after he hits free agency next fall....no, they should trade for him this season, can't keep one of the worst minor league systems in poor shape if you don't do some bad trades. Sabean needs to be tossed.

I don't want Inge. He's a bumb, and way over paid. And at this point... Who cares? I hope nobody goes to a Giants game this year and Sabean gets the boot.

"I think the tigers are in a position where beggars can't be choosers."


This is true, except for the fact that Brian "I take it back, I am an idiot" Sabean is a running a baseball team.

"The Giants are not going to give anything of value for Inge with that contract."

Sure, they should dump one of their more-overpriced names. But see above.

"The whitesox want something for crede."

Again true, though why they think a rent-a-player priced above-market with a bad back would sell in winter eludes me.

Oh, wait, I know.

See above.

"Do the Giants have a former Marlin on the team? Dombrowski would surely give up Inge for him."

Actually they do. The Giants have Randy Messenger from when they acquired him in May for Armando Benitez.

First off, the Tigers don't HAVE to trade Inge. They could make him a super sub. Just because he isn't happy doesn't mean he has to be dealt. Especially if the "talent" they're getting in return is garbage and doesn't help them.

That said, the Giants have about the worst collection of talent (old AND young) that I can recall seeing. Those "young" outfielders they want to play are mostly 4th outfielder types. Guys like Ortmeier and Davis are apparently raising fall expectations based on small sample sizes in the bigs, while fans are ignoring their age and/or body of work in the minors.

The Giants should forget acquiring Crede (unless they view any draft pick they might get as an asset when he leaves) and just play what they have, hoping somebody has a hot half season and can be pawned off then.

Especially if the "talent" they're getting in return is garbage and doesn't help them?

Inge, like Crede, is priced above market. A below-average bat with an above-average glove gets $4m a year (Feliz), so Inge's contract is -$7m in equity. That's bonuses for two top-ten draft picks right there.

You don't get talent in return for unloading negative seven million smackers in equity unless you pick up a lot of salary. The Tigers are not making noises like they're going to pay 90% of Inge's salary.

Hence, they won't get talent back.

Unless they trade with an idiot.

For which, see above.

about tradinhg inge they dont have to but i think the would give him away for a bag of peanuts if they could get out of that contract. as for the giants and getting crede i really dont see the point. that giants team is horrible. they have to be the worst team in the national league besides the marlins and nationals and those two teams shouldnt really count. why get one year of crede and give up anything? its not like the giants are going to make the playoffs anyways. there comes a time when your team sucks(well my team at least) and you have to decide to dig the hole deeper or start building for the future. the giants need to consider this.

"that giants team is horrible. they have to be the worst team in the national league besides the marlins and nationals"

uh, i'm a giants fan, and i will say that without a doubt the marlins and the nats are much, much better teams than the giants, at least offensively. the nats have milledge, pena, young, zimmerman, johnson and a few others. the marlins have hermida, maybin, uggla, RAMIREZ, and willingham. and if the nats pitching can stay healthy, they actually have a good staff. both the nats and marlins are poised for big seasons in the next couple years, while the giants aren't poised for anything but more embarassment. they may as well call themselves the san francisco pirates.

oh, but they can't. because the pirates, unlike the giants, actually have a future now.

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