Schilling Rips Manny Again

So with Manny gone, Boston lost one me-first distraction. Wonder how they could get rid of a another ...

I don't know about everyone else but I hated, I mean HATED the Red Sox with Manny. I never knew why I hated them so much but I did. Right after he left I started to like this team. I like schilling because he's honest. If I was on this team I would have bashed Manny every day. I would have called him out in front of teamates. I would especially embarass him in the media. He's a little baby. He caused problems for all the players why anyone would stand up for him ever is beyond me. The Red Sox made a great move to gt Bay. He'll be paid only 7.5mill next year and will out play manny and this team will be better for him. It's just shameful that the people who had to deal with his dumb a$$ and say anything about their experience are considered the bad ones.

I agree with Schilling, but its a totally a dead issue at this point, he doesnt need to put any more light on it, every sox fan and every other average intelligent baseball fan knew exactly thats what manny was going to do if he was a member of the sox in august. I think Schilling should shut up on this matter as well too. I liked both of these players when the PLAYED without issue, but there is a matter of Schilling getting 8 million from us this year to do nothing. I dont understand why Schilling needs to be the red sox organizations mouth piece

Derman: The one who, despite having nothing to do with the 2008 baseball season, feels the need to blog or call a radio station if his name isn't in the news every few weeks.

Well schilling had a legit injury! He didn't lie about something. The sox gave him a physical he passed then needed surgery. How is that his fault?

Schilling is a whiney, arrogant a-hole who only cares about his own self-promotion.

well, he did have an injury in his pitching shoulder and opted for surgery that most likely would have kept him out for the year, he didnt want to do the rehab the red sox wanted him to do. he shouldve just opted out of the deal like keith foulke did alittle while ago, he pitched one side session for the A's, knew he couldnt pitch, opted out and "retired", he shouldve done that. he didnt wake up one morning with a shoulder injury right after he signed, he had it before and he didnt even bother to mention he was having problems. this usually wouldnt be a big deal with me, but for a guy that wants players to hold themselves to a higher standard and such like he keeps saying about other players, he should have looked inward on this matter and sat the year out

I have to agree with MarinerNation, curt schilling is one of the biggest pieces of garbage in sports. First the bullcrap about new yorkers being happy about tom brady and now this, talk about beating a dead horse. This a-hole is just mad nobody in boston gave a crap when he went down for the season. Very few people in sports boil my blood like this asswipe.

While most people know Manny is a flake I wonder if an average baseball fan really knew how poisonous he was. Glad that Schilling did say something and offered a clubhouse perspective.

"paid" "you"
wow that is horrible spelling.

Bay's defense sucks, his arm sucks. He's no better than Manny according to the numbers (both -13 this season). And anecdotally, am I really the only one who thought an amazing number of balls fell in front of him in the Angels series?

Why does Manny constantly have to take crap from the media but Curt Schilling is just "telling it like it is"? Such a double-standard. Keith Law was right when asked about this, why are they treated differently; he said, "I can think of one difference." Schilling's so full of it and full of himself it's hard to even comment any more. Enough already.

I always liked Schilling when he was on the mound, even before he was on the Sox... but really, dude, shut up and let it go!

I have a bad feeling he'll end up a commentator on FOX sports...

Andrew is exactly right. The blame lies mostly on the Red Sox---both front office and players---for putting up with Manny's antics again and again. They created that Manny Monster for one reason--he is the best RH power hitter of his era. It finally came back to bite them----or did it?

It seems obvious to me that the Sox were/are doing anti-Manny P.R. work so they could justify a trade.

The facts are that 1)Manny was going FA--and wouldn't return 2)The Sox figured they could win with another RH hitter in left 3)Fans would be mad if they let Manny go and didn't win in postseason.

The more stories that "leak" out about "bad Manny" the better----for the Red Sox, who have to face questions about not winning in the postseason.

Bottom line: They had a pending FA and wanted a player in return. They got that, but faced scrutiny about letting their best hitter go---so out come all the anti-Manny "secrets".

"See," the True Believers say, "they really had no choice but to trade Manny".

I have one question:

How do these comments have ANYTHING AT ALL to do with MLBTR with the exception that Manny was traded this year and is a FA?

In terms of actual baseball related stuff, Schillings comments mean nothing. And really in terms of anything, Schilling's comments mean nothing.

I wish he would shut up, and considering he won't, I just wish people would ignore him. And adding posts like this don't help.

I forward a motion to shun 38Pitches.

I would rather hear the opinions of more intelligent people, or at least people who have some relevance.

In terms of the world, Curt Schilling is no more special than I am, and I haven't even graduated from high school yet.

Schilling is an idiot, the guy was a knucklehead for the majority of his career. He gets his act together later in his career and then adopts the holier than thou attitude, guy needs to just go away.

"Schilling is an idiot, the guy was a knucklehead for the majority of his career. He gets his act together later in his career and then adopts the holier than thou attitude, guy needs to just go away"

This is just too much. Schilling has a 10-2 Post season record, 3 20 win seasons, over 200 wins (216) and just because he has been writing in his blog abit too much this season about the laziest of Red Sox players this season, that he now needs to go away? This is not the 1st installment this season on Ramirez by far, only the hardest on him that I have seen and deservingly so from my point of view. Might even slow down some GM from throwing away insane money towards him and Boras on a 3-4 year deal and those forgetful knee injuries that Ramirez can't seem keep up with.

Schilling's arm was hurting last season also, that was why his velocity was down to 89-91mph on his FB, so no stranger there. The Sox were just hoping he had enough for 1 more season.

*Manny "dogs it" in the stretch leading up to the trade deadline and the Red Sox trade him because they are tired of his crap, clubhouse cancer, etc., etc.

Manny didn't dog anything. He was the best hitter on his team when he was traded.

"This is just too much. Schilling has a 10-2 Post season record, 3 20 win seasons, over 200 wins (216) and just because he has been writing in his blog abit too much this season about the laziest of Red Sox players this season, that he now needs to go away? This is not the 1st installment this season on Ramirez by far, only the hardest on him that I have seen and deservingly so from my point of view."

And Manny is a career .314 .411 .593 hitter, changed the culture in the Red Sox clubhouse, has played in 4 World Series and won 2, carried the Dodgers on his back while being a model citizen, and has a WS MVP to his credit. Oh, and he has never signed a near 10 figure contract with the full knowledge he couldn't perform.

"If we are going to use stats to prove that a person is a good guy then Ramirez is a way better guy than Schilling. Schilling has always had issues with players on his team, Ramirez has zero down years through the course of his contract. Schilling sounds jealous, knowing he will not have the historical significance of Manny Ramirez."

Ramirez has basically been the target this entire season aince he began dogging it. No one else and I recall no one else that Schilling has gotten along with, unless they refused to give 100% between the lines, or slapped at the gloves of players tagging them out and such nonsense as that.

Schilling granted has a huge mouth and does not know when to shut up, yet he always gave 100% and expected it out of his teammates and because he was /is accessible to the media easily, does not mind letting it be known when players do not do likewise.

I dunno how anyone critiques schilling here. Schilling dedicates himself to the game and has done so for years. He's not a greedy guy i'd say. This year he was ready to play for 8 mil to stay with boston. stuff happened and he couldn't play but the fact is he could have signed for at least 12MM elsewhere, and chose not to. Manny was violent toward his teammates and thought he was above everyone else. Theo put HIM in his place by trading him. Please dont look at this any other way. manny will get 4/100 at best.

its boras's fault but in the end its the players decision. manny didn't have to be a prick about the whole situation. Boras told manny to get out of the contract, and manny agreed to get boras paid.

I like schilling calling out manny. he basically says this team is too good to tolerate your attitude anymore. you are no longer the MVP of this team. We have Youk (potential MVP) we have pedroia (like .003 from winning batting title) We got Jason Bay (top 10 LF in baseball), and a pitching staff that is going to be dominant for years to come. this isn't the team with all role players (kevin millar type players) where manny is the leader. This isn't the team that needed 5-6 runs a game to win. Now 3 gets the job done. Mannys 20MM can be much better spent elsewhere and I think when they make a big signing or trade this offseason (peavy is good possibility, from what i've read the sox are the ones who might end up holding up this trade).

Here's a quote from boston herald for all you doubters.

"If the Sox were to include highly regarded first baseman Lars Anderson in a package with two of their best pitching prospects, talks between the clubs would certainly become interesting. But officials with other clubs believe the Sox consider Anderson to be virtually untouchable."

I dunno why anderson would be untouchable though. He's a great ballplayer, but they have Youkilis and Papi locking down first base for the next 5-10 years.

"While most people know Manny is a flake I wonder if an average baseball fan really knew how poisonous he was. Glad that Schilling did say something and offered a clubhouse perspective."

Are you serious? That is like Jeff Kent calling Barry Bonds a bad teamate. It is like OJ Simpson coming down on another guy for breaking the law. It is like Rosie O'Donnel calling somebody a fat slob. Anything that comes out of Curt Schillings mouth means absolutely nothing to me. Take your sock, go home, and shut the hell up Curt, cause nobody cares.

Good for Curt. I just wish that other guys who are friends with Manny like Cora and Ortiz would have said something.