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A.J. Burnett Rumors: Friday

Dave O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution has the latest on A.J. Burnett.  The Braves will hold off on other moves for starting pitching until they hear from A.J. Burnett's agent Darek Braunecker about their offer (said to be five years, $75MM if the fifth-year option vests). 

Braunecker says he has numerous offers, though Burnett's next team will have to be within driving distance of his suburban Baltimore home.  Jon Heyman says Burnett has multiple four-year offers and one five-year one.   Braunecker says the Blue Jays aren't out of it, despite J.P. Ricciardi's comment, "It looks like we're going to lose Burnett."


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I'm not a huge geography buff but isn't Atlanta and Toronto quite a drive from Baltimore? Technically, any team is within driving distance. I just assume he means within a short driving distance - which neither of those teams are.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Unless your rule of thumb is that anything one can physically drive to without retrofitting your car for nautical travel, Atlanta and Toronto are not "within driving distance" of Baltimore. If that IS his standard, well, pretty much anything but the Japanese leagues are fair game.

He will end up signing with ATL. Despite that rumor about the driving distance, if the Braves put a 5 yr./$75-80 million deal on the table, no way Burnett turns that down.

"Burnett's next team will have to be within driving distance of his suburban Baltimore home"

What the hell does that mean anyway? Orioles, Nationals, maybe Phillies?

8 hour drive from baltimore to toronto... waste a day anyone?

I can be negative here and go ahead and say, if we don't get Burnett, we're in deep SH!! But, the Braves usually don't say something to just say it, so I think they'll do everything they can to get him.

By the way, Burnett has already said he would go to Atlanta, so I wouldn't worry about that close to home stuff.

Baltimore to Atlanta is an 11 hour drive and Baltimore to Toronto is an 8.5 hour drive according to Yahoo Maps.

Isn't Burnett the one with the weird clause in his contract stating that the team has to provide a limo to drive his wife from Baltimore to Toronto?

Maybe his wife's afraid to fly and when he says driving distance he means a reasonable distance for like a weekend trip or something. A Baltimore to Atlanta drive is WAY different from a Baltimore to San Francisco one.

atlanta's farther, not sure how much. im sure both new york teams are within driving distance

I highly doubt Burnett will limit his choices to teams within driving distance. That would mean the only possibles would be the Yanks, Mets, Phillies, O's, and Nats.

He may very well land in one of those cities but he'll go where the money is.

OldDutchPots is right - it's because of his wife. But, in his Jays' contract, it was only 8 times a season. So a few hours is probably not that huge a deal.

I think it refers to the fact that when he has a day off, he like to be able to drive home to see his family. So give or take about 6-8 hours. Atlanta is within reason, but FLA teams wont make the cut in other words. Basically, think of it this way, as someone who has driven 95 from Boston to Durham NC, it take about 10-12 hours to make that drive. So teams that have a shot would be BAL/WAS/BOS/NYY/NYM/PHI/PIT/ATL and thats about it.

driving distance??? Way to shorten the market there Mr Boneheaded Agent. So I guess this means the Padres and Mariners are out???

well if its only a few times a year chicago is just as far as atlanta

I think the geography thing is a way of saying that Burnett is not gonna be pitching on the west coast.

and you could add cleveland and cincinnati to the list as well but i get the feeling its like these guys say and its his wife. aj would have to fly with the team whenever they have aroad trip

didnt the hampton blog say he took a lesser offer from houston over atl to be closer to his kids in arizona? maybe aj is thinking along the same lines. closer is better

Airman, Detroit, Milwaukee and Chicago would all be under 12 hours to Baltimore as well.

I cannot believe Lowe isn't getting the crap from people like Burnett has been getting for the years deal. Lowe wants five years, $90 mill. My gut tells me that Burnett, at 4 years younger, and way better stuff, is waaaay more worth the 5 years!! Especially if he can avoid the big injury again, which I think he will.

Yea, but i was wasnt saying it to be a 12 hour drive, i was saying more like a 6-8 hour drive, which makes Atlanta unlikely unless he changes his mind about driving distance.

Atlanta is 11 hours, same with Chicago, while Boston is only 6 and a half. New York 3-4.

They have these things called planes that get you to where you want to be quicker than a car. Who drives 8-12 hours when you're getting paid millions of dollars???

Brian, nobody thinks Lowe has a chance to actually get 5 years. That's why nobody's complaining about it. Everybody knows somebody's going to give AJ 5 years though.

Does driving to Atlanta on your off day really make any sense?

I agree with Tim - this is Burnett's way of letting the world know he wants to play on the East Coast.

They have these things called planes that get you to where you want to be quicker than a car. Who drives 8-12 hours when you're getting paid millions of dollars???

There's a reason Lowe is getting less flak for asking for 4-5 years. He's never hurt, and Burnett, well, he is.

The whole Driving thing is for AJs wife - she does not fly and i beleive is was in his toronto contract that they provided first class transportation for his wife to 8 games.

the type of drive makes a difference. An 8 hr drive along the east coast, say, Boston to DC feels fast-ish. Whereas a drive from DC to Atlanta feels REALLY REALLY long. It has a lot to do with the type of roads and how much "middle of nowhere" it gets. There's a lot of long stretches where everything looks the same. I would say that it's not "driving distance"

11 isnt 6 to 8 is it?

and how can you say aj will avoid the big injury. how can you say anyone, especially pitchers, will avoid injury? well gehrig and ripken aside....

do people really think he meant himselfe driving - the guy takes planes all year you dont think he would take a plane home from atlanta or somewhere else.

I just hope the Yanks don't come with a crazy offer for this guy.

basemonkey... uh... yeah....
a drive from dc to atlanta feels longer than a drive from dc to boston because.... it is!
im sure aj gives a rats ass what the drive feels like

Personally as far as the driving distance argument, I think Atlanta and Pittsburgh aren't "driving distance." If I lived in Baltimore, Atlanta is not a quickie trip at all. Niether is Pittsburgh.

oh and aj if your getting a five year offer.... TAKE IT

If anyone actually thinks Burnett isn't considering Atlanta because of driving distance, they're just kidding themselves. If they make the best offer, I think he'll figure out a way to deal with extra 2-3 hours of driving.

That damn Boras is so predictable! I know he won't end up getting 5 yrs. and $90 mill., but Boras will likely get him 5 yrs. and around $17 mill. Sorry, but I'd rather have Burnett at $15-16 mill. and 5 yrs. than a guy, even if he's healthy, who doesn't dominate hitters the way Burnett can! Besides, we already have a sinker ball guy in Hudson, if that really means anything.

Atlanta, Baltimore, and Toronto that Burnett even said he had interest in.

"basemonkey... uh... yeah....
a drive from dc to atlanta feels longer than a drive from dc to boston because.... it is!
im sure aj gives a rats ass what the drive feels like"

I'm just letting you guys know the difference because I've done both of those drives a ton of times for the last 30 years, thru college and etc. You don't have to agree with me. There is a difference. If I am driving to Atlanta, there will be stretches where I won't see a town or even rest stop for seemingly hours. Whereas on an East Coast Interstate, you run into at least rest stops all the time.

I think the spirit of AJ's comment is that, he hopes to be on a team within "driving distance" to mean an issue of convenience. I just mean to say that driving to Atlanta is not terribly convenient.

Look. We couldn't possibly speculate the reasons why he prefers "driving distance." Maybe he loves his mom's dog? (joke) Maybe someone in his family is ill and he has to be near? Maybe he just hates flying. Whatever. The point is if Burnett is supposedly considering Baltimore and DC at his stage of his career, he must be pretty darn serious about the "driving distance" thing.

Otherwise why would he put out a comment out there in public that instantly narrows down the bidding war on him? It couldn't help his bottomline, you know.

No one from the West Coast was bidding on him anyway, so how did it narrow down the bidding war on him. Maybe his agent put it out there to try and get the Braves to put up a little more to "compensate" Burnett for the longer drive.

maybe its just a ploy to get the teams not within driving distance of baltimore, ie atlanta and toronto, to up their offers. ultimately who cares. why are we debating the driving distance thing. personally i think if he has a five year offer on the table he has to take it. who else is gonna give him that?

I dont know that I want him. I am horrified at the thought of a Mike Hampton Repeat.

I think we're overthinking it. He said he wants "driving distance." That rules out ChiSox, Cubs, Texas, Houston, etc. There are other teams besides West Coast and East Coast. All it takes is one extra suitor to bum his final figure by a mil or two.

"I dont know that I want him. I am horrified at the thought of a Mike Hampton Repeat."

That's a chance you got to take. Ask Yankees, they do it every year.

If we sign Burnett and he gets hurt agin, I think we would still be ok in 2010. Hudson will probably be resigned, so he could take over the ace role until AJ gets back. It would hurt, but I don't think it would be devastating, unless we couldn't resign Huddy. I agree that you have to take a chance on him if you're the Braves, because Peavy probably isn't coming and I don't know what other top pitcher they could get right now.

Only on this website would we get into a legitimate, serious argument about weather or not Atlanta, Toronto etc.. are in Driving distance of Suburban Baltimore.

Brian - please tell us all how Burnett is more "dominant" than Lowe?

Lowe has better career numbers in ERA, WHIP, and ERA+. In the past 6 years Lowe has had 30+ starts EVERY year. Burnett has had 2 such years.

Burnett has better "stuff" but that doesn't equate to being dominate. While Burnett is younger that isn't as big of a factor since youth should lead to better health and resiliency. Neither of which Burnett has shown even while young. Meanwhile, Lowe has been a model of consistency - even as an old man (in baseball years).

Come on guys, is he really not going to sign with a team because the drive home is long?

I think who ever stated it about his wife is right. This was a clause in the last deal, so I take it as his wife doesnt like to fly, so that would be the reason for driving distance.

"deal includes 8 round-trip limousine trips per season between Toronto & Burnett's Maryland home for his wife"


bjguess:

Let me ask you this- Would you rather have a strikeout pitcher, like Burnett, in the 7th game of the WS, or a guy who mainly pitches to contact like Lowe? That "stuff" you're refering to, is a hell of a lot more valuable when you're facing some great hitters who can lay of the Lowe sinkers! The rest of his stuff is "average"! I'll take Burnett's stuff against any hitter!!

can anybody give me burnett's injury history for the last 2 years? i think this is the time period where he finally decided to quit trying to strike everyone out with a fastball and started actually pitching, resulting in fewer injuries. therefore going forward i think he's less of an injury risk.

Burnett's the only guy here who can dominate MLB hitters. Lowe is a good pitcher but I wouldn't say he dominates anyone.

4 years 60 mil with a 5th option year is what ESPN is reporting.

"Let me ask you this- Would you rather have a strikeout pitcher, like Burnett, in the 7th game of the WS, or a guy who mainly pitches to contact like Lowe? That "stuff" you're refering to, is a hell of a lot more valuable when you're facing some great hitters who can lay of the Lowe sinkers!"

Um, didn't Lowe one whale of a game in that now-famous series against the Yankees? Yeah, I'll take Lowe.


I'm starting to believe Burnett's going to wind up in Baltimore. The O's need to sign one of the two guys with local ties- Burnett or Tex- both for competitive and symbolic reasons and I find it highly unlikely that Tex is coming home. He's in too great a demand; several teams' top priority FA. On top of which, dude's a total mercenary (not that I blame him). He'll get the cash AND play for a competitor. Burnett, however, has actually shown more interest in playing in Baltimore- even before this drive-time garbage- and is only being considered a top priority by the Braves and O's (with the Angels wanting Tex, the Yanks wanting CC, etc.). With New York's (for example) attention divided, I believe Burnett is really waiting for the O's to match Atlanta...something I think should- and will- happen. That is strictly a hunch, however.

Given a comparable deal, I do think Burnett will opt for the O's over the Braves. The question is whether he'll get a comparable offer. The reason I think Baltimore will eventually relent is manifold. First, the O's have stated that they'll go after only those FAs young enough to help long-term; i.e.- when they can compete, which is still at least a couple years from happening. They desperately need starting pitching, as their lack of depth last year meant having to throw guys like Chris Waters and Alfredo Simon- guys who got hammered at AAA- against AL East opponents. You can guess how that went most of the time! Just as important, however, is what such a signing means. Sadly, there aren't a ton of FAs lining up to come to Baltimore. Eleven consecutive losing seasons will do that. But the stars have aligned this off-season. Not taking advantage would send a clear message to the fans and to the team, that the organization is not committed to turning things around.

Whether that's true or not, it could have dire consequences...not only long term, but immediately, as the O's try to sign Brian Roberts to a new deal (his current contract expires after this coming season) and Nick Markakis to a long-term extension a la Longoria, Hanley Ramirez, or most recently Dustin Pedroia. If they don't believe the front office is in it to win it, they're apt to opt out. That would, of course, be disastrous. Is it sure to happen if we don't sign Burnett? No. But it could, and the O's can't take that chance. As great a risk as is Burnett's health, the symbolic weight of his signing would mitigate the issue; and it's not like an injury is certain. Pitching atop a rotation that could include Jeremy Guthrie at the No.2 slot, maybe Uehara at the 3, Daniel Cabrera (this is the year! LOL) 4th, and, say, Garrett Olson No. 5, with Radhamez Liz, Troy Patton, and Hayden Penn providing immediate depth and Chris Tillman, Brian Matusz, Jake Arrieta, and Brandon Erbe on the way, that's got the making of a very strong staff.

Make the move Andy! Tex ain't comin'.

milehigh78,

Burnett also made it clear that he wanted a team that can compete. I don't see O's competing with Yankees, BoSox, and Rays.

I still feel like Smoltz will not only start this year but will be as good as he was last year before the injury.

This from MLB.com:

"John Smoltz was just outstanding today," Cox said. "He threw fastballs, breaking balls, [split-finger fastballs] and changeups. If I was rating him on a scale of 1-10, I'd say he was a 6.5. He was really good."

"less than two months later, Smoltz was enjoying pain-free rounds of golf and planning to pitch again. It's unknown whether he has regained all of the strength in his shoulder. But he was definitely encouraged after throwing a football 55 yards a few weeks ago."

Wow, fast healer, right?

these re some of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read. You guys debated about how far different cities are from each other for hours. I am reminded of the swallow conversation in Monty Python Holy Grail

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