Mark Teixeira Rumors: Sunday

Buster Olney, talked to a person, who knows a person, who is the second cousin to the wife of a person, who heard from a old friend that was told by a Washington Nationals executive, that they are officially out of the bidding for Teixeira.
So the Yankees offer reportedly was 8 160 for Teixeira. Taking that offer off the table doesnt necessarily mean for them that they are out of the bidding maybe they are set to increase it.

If this is true its down to the Sox, Orioles and Angels. The Angels already said they made a 'fair' offer and Teixiera wants to go to the east coast anyway so hes probably not going back to LA. The Orioles have the lowest contract of all out there so right now all signs point towards the Red Sox.

"Teixeira is "as on-board with the Boras plan as any client he's ever had besides his ultimate client, Alex Rodriguez."

So Tex will be firing Boras any minute now?

In a way, I hope we get Tex, but in another way, I hope we don't.

That money would be better spent signing and drafting younger players, and pitching.

I'm waiting for the Yankees to throw ca$h at Tex

the yankees dont have a bottomless pit of money, they are spending alot of money this year, i dont think they can afford another insane commitment like that, they would signed a total of almost $400 million dollars in contract just this year, thats insane! if they dont make alot of money, every year for a long time, they are going to be in big trouble.

GeneseoMC20
Its because of the Yankees cheap GM Brian Cashman that there is internal dispute. If it werent for the Steinbrenners the Yankees would have never had CC Sabathia and AJ Burnett this year and last year they probably would have acquired Johan Santana as well if not for Cashman sticking with Melky because of one good year in winter ball and Ian Kennedy's 1 major league win. Dont forget Cashman rejecting to sign Vlad Guerrero because Gary Sheffield was available and also neglecting to claim Manny in his prime when the Red Sox put him on waivers in 2003. if they claimed Manny i would bet anything that the Red Sox still wouldnt have won a world series.

"Does someone want to tell me what it is the Yankees are divided about over Teixeira?"

They're divided over the wisdom of taking on another 8 year contract at >$20M per. They're divided over increasing payroll beyond the $210M they spent last year.

"So what is the debate? Money?""

Yes. Money. See above. See below>

"Since when is that ever a problem with the Yankees?"

Even if the money is no problem, that doesn't mean their won't be disagreements over how to spend it.

Rolling:

Then Arod needs not be mentioned because using the "beside" qualifier implies Arod is MORE on-board than anyone else. Unless, of course the reference is to the pre-new-Yankees-deal Arod. But that context is ambiguous from the quote used.

Just because they are reports we can't assume they actually understand the words they use.

i dont think this is brian's fault, if anything he is the one holding the team together by making strategic moves instead of hasty moves. the CC and Burnett signings are basically the yankees putting their finger in a dyke and praying to god the dyke doesnt come down. the organization need to show more patience, they have been winners for so long that they are now scared of losing. sometimes successfully rebuilding a team means not competing right away, big contracts dont mean it will actually fix the problem, and on top of it, if the yankees fall out of contention even with these monster deals, you could have a problem with money like we have never seen with a team before ever in any sport

I think everyone is just trying to reform what has been said to their own expectations.

Yankee fans will consider this as a waiting maneuver and expect the Yankees to attack and start outbidding everyone.

Sox fans will see Henry's statement as a shrewd and sly countermove to Boras' antics. Yet they still believe all the signs point to them... After all, how clear can "it seems clear that we are not going to be a factor" be?

Angels fans have hope just because... Torii Hunter says so...

Nats fans think they have the highest offer yet completely ignore the fact that the team simply will not compete for postseason play in the near future.

O's fan think they will land Tex because the odds are stacked so much against them that the Baseball Gods will have to grant them their wish.

It was interesting during the Winter Meetings but it's getting pretty lame. No one knows for sure what's going on and there's only 4 more days till Christmas. This guy better decide where he wants his money to come from.(When I say "this guy" I mean Boras not Tex)

Besides, I think it'll be more interesting to see where Manny ends up. And Manny won't sign till Tex does...

the yankees should sign pettitte, attempt to sign manny, move damon to center again (although that will be hard to watch somedays). trade melky, cano and try to unload matsui. let nick swisher play first until the break and evaluate if you need to make a move.

"Signing top free agents should not take away $$$ from the draft when you own a major league franchise."

Not when the signing bonuses could be historically high.

I mean, I have confidence that the Nats will spend on the draft, but they probably wouldn't pick Strasburg, who could easily command 8-10MM in signing bonus (he is the closest thing to a clear lock ace that has been in the draft class in years). They'd pick a good player, but not the one they need to pick.

If the Nats or Mariners get Strasburg, and sign the guys they pick with their other first round pick(s), that could easily set a record for most money spent on the draft.

I hear all of your arguments about the Yankees worrying about Payroll, and wanting 1st base open for Jeter and Posada, but for me, I think those are 'what ifs' that you problem solve when the time comes.

With regards to both Jeter and Posada, the beautiful thing is that the AL has this great feature called the DH. If you need one of them to assume that role, then so be it. I can see both Jorge and Jeter splitting time between DH and their respective positions, down the road.

I'm still sticking with what I said before. The Yankees don't have a real first baseman and there is a really good one on the market. Get him now, and if you need to free up payroll then trade someone. If I were cashman, I would have signed CC first, then gone after Tex, and if there was money left, then I'd go for Burnett. The Yankees have a ton of pitchers in the system but very few position players.

When Teixeira says the Angels have no chance then I will believe it. It seems to me that there was a pitcher not too long ago who said he wanted to play for an NL team on the west coast. I do believe he signed with an AL team on the east coast. Teixeira sounds like he is in it more for the money than CC, so if Moreno ups his bid he may very well sign with the wrong coast Angels.

Tex has 4 days to sign according to his time-frame.

LOL i said this a week ago.

the nationals and orioles will both be non-factors unless they are willing to go 8-9 210-220MM.

10/200 is not going to work over 8/180 from red sox.

The only "mystery" team out there is the yankees and they aren't going to go more than 8/160 after all their spendings. i predict they sign manny 3/65 with a 22MM team option for the 4th year.

If the Angels increase their offer, Boras will go with that offer to the other teams trying to get more money, that is his game. But damn is Pujols going to be expensive.

The only "mystery" team out there is the yankees and they aren't going to go more than 8/160 after all their spendings. i predict they sign manny 3/65 with a 22MM team option for the 4th year.

Posted by: Santana/Beckett FTW | December 21, 2008 at 04:22 PM

Are you saying the Yankees dont have enough money to sign Tex? Last year the Yankees spent 275+ million on A-rod and still signed Pettitte, Abreu, Cano, Posada, and Wang.

also theres speculation that the yanks are waitin on holliday, who i think will land in anaheim in place of Vlad, with a simple outfield readjustment of course.

I think Cash is bluffing.

If the Angels don't get Tex, then who's the replacement at 1B? Morales?

If the Yankees don't go after Tex, its because of more reasons than just money.

wow! The Angels are out? Henry was right to call Boras out.

Angels out. Yanks, Sox and Nationals left.

Yanks aren't exactly in it when they had an offer out and retracted it... The way things stand, its just Sox and Nationals with their current offers on the table.

Cashman will give up and give Tex 8/180-200.

The Angels are out? Wow.

This could get interesting. I like this news though.

Yanks, Sox, and Nats left.

Nats, please get Strasburg anyways.

"Yanks, Sox, and Nats left."

Whatever happened to the Orioles Melonis?

As an Angel fan, it's a bummer, however, the money could be better spent if they still pursue Dunn, Burrell, or Abreu for DH....and sign Brian Fuentes or maybe Oliver Perez.

Maybe they are in play for Jake Peavy or a possible Prince Fielder deal.

The Yankees are far from out dude.

"Maybe they are in play for Jake Peavy or a possible Prince Fielder deal. "

Man, I hope so! I wanna see the Angels do both! I would much rather see something like this happen than sign Tex back.

Now the Angels and the White Sox need to make a trade

Does anyone really think the Yankees are gonna spend 400 million in one offseason i mean c'mon. Angels are apparently out. Orioles have the worst offer out there looks like it's the nats vs sox. Its up to you Texiera you have five days till christmas.

i thought the orioles offer, the "worst" one out there, was, quote: "flexible"

Looks like all the teixeira teams got sick of boras and said here is what we are willing to offer pick someone.

Basic math: subtract $88m, add back in $40m (CC+AJ) and you have lots of room to absorb another contract and STILL lower payroll (to a still ridiculously high number).

Just saying the Yanks have the room

wayyyyy too much news on tex. yes he is the biggest free agent out there but right now it seems like this website is desperate for nw ifnormation to post up every 5 minutes

Yanksfan..

When he was placed on waivers by the Twins, George wanted the Yanks to pick him up. Cashman talked him out of it. You know the rest..

Also looks like Teix had already semi-choosen the red sox but they were trying to bluff the price up. My guess is he signs with the red sox for the 8 year 21 million Brown heard. That or signs somewhere else soley for the opt out clause.

The only "mystery" team out there is the yankees and they aren't going to go more than 8/160 after all their spendings. i predict they sign manny 3/65 with a 22MM team option for the 4th year.

Posted by: Santana/Beckett FTW | December 21, 2008 at 04:22 PM

Are you saying the Yankees dont have enough money to sign Tex? Last year the Yankees spent 275+ million on A-rod and still signed Pettitte, Abreu, Cano, Posada, and Wang.
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What are you talking about dude? Signed Cano and Wang?

Geez, will Tex just sign with a team already!

Are you saying the Yankees dont have enough money to sign Tex? Last year the Yankees spent 275+ million on A-rod and still signed Pettitte, Abreu, Cano, Posada, and Wang.
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What are you talking about dude? Signed Cano and Wang?

Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | December 21, 2008 at 06:18 PM

I mean re-signed Cano and Abreu. And didnt they give Wang 4m?

I would love to see the look on boras' face right now.

Posted by: walkoffblast | December 21, 2008 at 06:24 PM

Lol yea. And Teixeira's.

Only 3 days left after tonight.

If the Yanks sign him its all over. If they don't sign him then they will have to hope their offense doesn't struggle too much.

PhilFranchise:

Absolutely correct, it is not just simple math there are other numbers to add. ie. player raises and such.

However with any long term contract such as Teixeira's the Yankees would be foolish not to look at their long term payroll. ie. 2010 when they will be losing Damon, Matsui and in all probability Pettite. So that's $36 million right there. Not too mention Nady if they don't retain him after next year.

All I'm saying is there is alot of things to factor in here but for everyone who says it can't be done. Think again..

As an Angel fan, it's a bummer, however, the money could be better spent if they still pursue Dunn, Burrell, or Abreu for DH....and sign Brian Fuentes or maybe Oliver Perez.

Maybe they are in play for Jake Peavy or a possible Prince Fielder deal.

Posted by: tbone88 | December 21, 2008 at 05:47 PM

Man, you'd have to give up your whole farm system just to get those two guys.

Now I REALLY hope the Nats don't get him. Get Dunn instead.

If the Yanks/Sox get him, then the AL East is going to be really fun to watch this year.

So... let's me get this straight:
The Angels might have had an offer of 160M/8yrs... but they're most likely out.
The Red Sox might have had an offer between 168-180M/160M/8yrs and are possibly out.
Than yanks might not want to offer over 160M/8yrs.
The Nationals think they are out.
The Orioles might consider increasing an offer.
A mystery team might have offered 200M/8yrs.

That's as clear as mud... someone tell the man to sign already.

Yes we do lose the salaries of Damon and Matsui (and possibly Nady) but those players still have to be replaced. Other than Ajx we don't have too many position players to choose from for 2010, and who knows if Ajax will be ready. At this point, yes it would be great to add Tex to the mix but, if not I can't be mad at Cashman. He addressed the biggest needs with CC and AJ. We can't sign everybody.

Matt-LI:

While your math is alot closer than most that I see on here. Your first sentence is slightly amusing. "I love how people think the Yankees have so much money to spend till."

Let me ask you. What makes you think the Yankees don't have alot of money? Is it the fact that they have a new ballpark which is projected to double their revenue yearly as opposed to their old ballpark. Or is it their Yes Network, which is the leading Regional Sports Network in the area.

My only point is it that it is ignorant to question whether or not the Yankee can afford anything. Whether they want to or not is another question.