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By Tim Dierkes [December 3, 2008 at 5:48pm CST]
A few notes from Jayson Stark's latest blog post...
- Stark believes the possibility of C.C. Sabathia signing with the Giants is alive, and the Giants have talked to the pitcher's agent. Such a signing might compel Brian Sabean to remove Matt Cain's "untouchable" tag, in Stark's opinion. Earlier today Ken Rosenthal suggested the Giants were a dark horse for C.C. Also, Sabathia's wife Amber prefers the Giants according to George King.
- The Giants offered three years to Rafael Furcal. He wants four, so they switched their attention to Edgar Renteria. The Giants want a shorter-term deal so their own prospects can take over within a few years.
- Stark notes that the recent Jake Peavy-Cubs rumors do not seem to be coming out of Chicago. He suggests those talks may not be active, partially because the Cubs are in payroll limbo til their sale goes through.
- The Twins and Dodgers have two year offers out to Casey Blake. Whichever team blinks and adds a third year can get him.
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What did I say about Sabathia?
He wants to play for the Giants. He said it a few months ago. The Giants have said he is the only FA pitcher they are interested in (because the need for a bat greatly out wheighs the need for another SP).
Posted by: freshbreaker | December 03, 2008 at 05:56 PM
If the Twins don't- Hellllooooo Garrett Atkins.
We have to otherwise.
Posted by: twinsfan | December 03, 2008 at 06:01 PM
People need to take the Giants more seriously in the Sabathia sweepstakes. Believe me if he wanted to go to the Yankees he woulda went by now.
Posted by: JaCoby Shaddix | December 03, 2008 at 06:05 PM
On a side note about Peavy, I want to know where are those Towers' fan out there thinking Braves package was crap. Looks to me now you got an Ace that your GM openly said he would trade him asap. Let me take another look at the market...O no one is interested now.... I don't care of the Braves lose 90 games next season, as long as I know I can laugh at all the padre's fans are good enough season for me.
Posted by: Nobody | December 03, 2008 at 06:08 PM
I don't get why so many Twins fans are still so big on Atkins. He's had ONE season where he was good on the road.
Though three years of Casey Blake is far too much. Two and an option at best, and I'd like to see him traded before those two years are up.
Trade for Beltre, take the two draft picks, and the year of good defense and solid production from your third baseman.
He's much better than his numbers at Safeco indicate.
Posted by: MorneauVP | December 03, 2008 at 06:08 PM
The Giants would trade Sanchez and Cain and bring in so much talent to that team. If they locked up CC for 6 years, they could be good in 2 or 3, trade in a year for something decent, and start really looking good. The Dbacks and Dodgers have a ton of young talent, but two stud starters would give them a nice advantage.
Posted by: chicubs25 | December 03, 2008 at 06:10 PM
trade Rowand in a year*
Posted by: chicubs25 | December 03, 2008 at 06:13 PM
I still don't like the Giants signing CC. Don't get me wrong, he's a frontline pitcher, he's a hometown guy, but that's close to $40 mil in 2 pitchers a year. Let's face it, the Giants need offense. They have the pitching prospects, but fall short with the offensive prospect. Add some offense, get the wins with the staff we have, maybe minus Sanchez as trade bait.
Posted by: Kfer | December 03, 2008 at 06:23 PM
If the Giants did sign Sabathia and held on to Cain and just traded Sanchez/Winn/prospect in a package for a middle of the order hitter like EE or Beltre and sign Renteria...the Dodgers, et all would have to be scared. It would almost be impossible to sweep them and they would have a good shot at taking two out of three in most series especially down the stretch (and obviously that would be a dirty playoff rotation). It is really scary to have 40 mil a year committed to two pitchers which is why I'm not even sure I would want it, but barring any long term injuries it could work out well...the guy seems like hes practically begging to come to SF.
Posted by: SFg49w | December 03, 2008 at 06:24 PM
And as for Rowand, he's the veteran guy the Giants need to tie things together with a young club. I have faith he'll bounce back from a subpar season. He needs to be in the 2 or 6 hole, not 3.
Posted by: Kfer | December 03, 2008 at 06:24 PM
You would trade Sanchez AND a prospect for EE???? And you consider him a middle of the order bat?? Hey you wanna trade Cain to the cubs for Ronny Cedeno?
Posted by: chicubs25 | December 03, 2008 at 06:28 PM
Who is EE?
Posted by: giants2010 | December 03, 2008 at 06:34 PM
EE, is Edwin Encarnacion(sp?)the third baseman for the reds...on a side note im getting tired of these rumors about jake peavy and the cubs, i wish hendry would broadcast something or talk to the newspapers or something.
Posted by: jay | December 03, 2008 at 06:47 PM
i dont know if i really believe what jason stark is speaking of; in regaurds to peavy. i think the cubs are in hard on peavy.
Posted by: apaks | December 03, 2008 at 06:49 PM
i totally agree with apaks.
i dont think the cubs got the goods, but if they get a third team involved and move marquiz's contract i can see it happening
Posted by: ChiTownCubbies | December 03, 2008 at 07:09 PM
I would consider trading Winn as more of unloading a contract after signing CC while making room for Shierholz so ya...And I'm not talking about a big name prospect so take a deep breath pal, were not GM's here it's a framework, I'm sure someone else maybe would come back..And while I would prefer Beltre, Encarnacion would definitely be in the middle of our lineup and others (I guess not those champion Cubbies though)...Finally, the idea of trading a bargain like Cain is not smart to begin with unless it's for a BIG return, but the idea of trading him AND Sanchez in this same offseason is simply lacking any decent judgement or knowledge of the game of baseball whatsoever.
Posted by: SFg49w | December 03, 2008 at 07:51 PM