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TUESDAY: ESPN's Jerry Crasnick spoke to Hudson's agent Paul Cohen today, who said Hudson's 2010 option is mutual. Hudson can void it if the Braves exercise it (info came via an email from Crasnick).
FRIDAY: David O'Brien fills in readers on Tim Hudson's 2010 option:
I asked about Hudson’s option today, and found out it’s not a mutual option, but a club option. Yes, they fully intend to exercise it, barring some unexpected turn of events.
That option is for $12MM with a $1MM buyout. Since Hudson had Tommy John surgery in August of '08, he could make a second-half impact for the Braves this year.
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That's good to hear for Braves fans. At least we'll have the opportunity to have him on the staff for another full season after he recovers.
Posted by: Stephen Peele | January 16, 2009 at 03:15 PM
Trade him to the dodgers!
Posted by: NedCollettiClueless | January 16, 2009 at 03:18 PM
Da Braves are taking over this website like we are the Red Sox on ESPN
Posted by: Mark Twine | January 16, 2009 at 03:20 PM
"Trade him to the dodgers!"
I'd actually support that from a fanboy perspective if I still lived in California. I have a soft spot for the Big Three and could actually go to a game to see him.
Posted by: melonis rex | January 16, 2009 at 03:21 PM
Yeah, no-brainer on that one. Huddy's as solid as they come.
Posted by: FineHamAbounds | January 16, 2009 at 03:24 PM
man that is going to be a rotation of
Hudson
Lowe
J.J
Vasquez/Kawakami
Hanson
With Campilio, Morton, Reyes, Parr all waiting in the wings, or in the pen. That has the shapings of another run of division titles based on pitching
Posted by: bravesman1218 | January 16, 2009 at 03:31 PM
YES!!!
Posted by: bravesfan22193 | January 16, 2009 at 03:43 PM
Yeah I'm all for exercising that option, though I'd be surprised to see him play at all in 2009.
Posted by: paulyicecubes | January 16, 2009 at 03:45 PM
That's some of the best news I've heard this entire offseaon. Next they need to extend Chipper and get that bat for LF and I'll be extremely happy!
Posted by: Jay212033 | January 16, 2009 at 03:49 PM
"man that is going to be a rotation of
Hudson
Lowe
J.J
Vasquez/Kawakami
Hanson
With Campilio, Morton, Reyes, Parr all waiting in the wings, or in the pen. That has the shapings of another run of division titles based on pitching"
You'd have to trade Vazquez to get Hanson in the rotation. The rotation would look something like this barring a trade.
Hudson
Lowe
Jurrjens
Vazquez
Kawakami/Hanson/Morton/Reyes
Posted by: Jay212033 | January 16, 2009 at 03:52 PM
Rotoworld says Huddy's option is mutual...what gives?
Posted by: Smoltz's Beard | January 16, 2009 at 04:05 PM
I've heard for some time that the option was a mutual option, but if this is true, it's great news. I can't wait to get him back, but I think it'll all depend on how the Braves are doing come August.
Posted by: bobby cox is my father | January 16, 2009 at 04:22 PM
I hope Vazquez has a 200+ 4.0 ERA yr because he will be one Trade with must value to plug holes (Closer,LF PowerBat,3B High Ceiling Prospect CHippers Replacement)..Maybe a start for another Braves pitching dominance to a WS! Great News
Posted by: BravoFan3736 | January 16, 2009 at 04:31 PM
Makes me wonder a little bit why Wren wouldn't actively shopping guys like Jo-Jo, Morton, Parr. It seems unlikely there will be room for those guys that would be back of the rotation types. Seems like we could probably trade for a pretty good LF power bat offering up some decent pitching.
Posted by: Brad426 | January 16, 2009 at 04:41 PM
I hope that Vazquez puts up the best numbers of his career so we can get a King's Ransomfor him in a trade. Mainly a 3B of the future. We have a closer of the future in Kimbrel, hopefully we can sign Gonzalez long term.
Posted by: Jay212033 | January 16, 2009 at 04:51 PM
Brad426 thats a good point however I think he may actually be shopping these guys we just havnt heard too much about it. It seems like one of these guys should be able to be a solid piece in a trade to get a lf bat. The sox said they wanted pitching prospects for dye how about putting together a reallyyyy good package for dye and maybe the sox would pay a bit of his salary so we could still sign ohman...
Posted by: chipperowns10 | January 16, 2009 at 05:06 PM
As far as vazquez being traded next year im all for it unless kawakami falls on his face. This gives us extra insurance in the KK deal. If he cant get it done we keep vazquez im sure, and do whatever we can to get rid of KK's salary.
Posted by: chipperowns10 | January 16, 2009 at 05:09 PM
If you looking at 2010 I think the rotation would look like
Hudson
Lowe
JJ
Vasquez
Kawakami
and keep Hanson in the minors for another year and lets not rush him out like we did with Davies or James.
Posted by: snoot titanic | January 16, 2009 at 05:26 PM
snoot titanic i understan your logic here but when u got a guy in the minors that can probably out pitch the back 2 starters in you rotation for about 10 mil less u got to trade one of these guys. It will not only free up money and bring in some other solid pieces, but it will also possibly improve our rotation. Hanson WILL be in the starting rotation in 2010.
Posted by: chipperowns10 | January 16, 2009 at 05:35 PM
Keeping Hanson in the Minors through 2010, to start in the Majors in 2011 is complete overkill. He's already pitched 100 innings in double-A ball; another half a season to a full season would be ample, and certainly wouldn't be considered rushing. Davies and James haven't panned out, not because they were rushed, but because they aren't nearly as good or as touted as Hanson.
Posted by: bobby cox is my father | January 16, 2009 at 05:39 PM
snoot, hanson wont spend two more years in the minors
Posted by: csg | January 16, 2009 at 05:41 PM
Exercising Hudson's option seems like a bit of a risk. Unless he can really come back next year with a bang, I don't see him getting $12 million in FA
Posted by: AA | January 16, 2009 at 06:08 PM
Keeping Huddy around for 2010 is great. Assuming he suffers no major setback, the $12 million is actually a bargain for a #2-#1B type of SP.
That's a comforting news for the time being.
Posted by: ABravesFan | January 16, 2009 at 06:14 PM
rad426 thats a good point however I think he may actually be shopping these guys we just havnt heard too much about it. It seems like one of these guys should be able to be a solid piece in a trade to get a lf bat. The sox said they wanted pitching prospects for dye how about putting together a reallyyyy good package for dye and maybe the sox would pay a bit of his salary so we could still sign ohman..
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I hear ya, Wren is probably keeping any potential offer pretty close to the vest considering the beating he has taken regarding his "failures" this off-season.
And I like the Dye idea. I think Dye is exactly what we need, albeit a little pricey. If the Sox were willing to pay some of his salary (which I doubt), I would love to make that trade.
Posted by: Brad426 | January 16, 2009 at 06:16 PM
Exercising Hudson's option seems like a bit of a risk. Unless he can really come back next year with a bang, I don't see him getting $12 million in FA
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The beauty of it is that they will get to see him make 5 or 6 starts (either in the minors or in the bigs) before they have to make that decision. And rehabbing from Tommy John is a science now... is really even considered a gamble that a guy will come back from it any more? I honestly can't remember the last time I heard about a guy coming back and being any less effective.
Posted by: Brad426 | January 16, 2009 at 06:20 PM
Brad426,
Maybe it's too early to tell if he's that less effective, but I would put Mike Hampton into that category.
Given the going rate for top of the rotation guys, 12 mill for Huddy, even if he isnt quite as effective, seems like a no-brainer to me.
Being able to put Hanson in a 4th/5th starting role will help him get comfortable. If he can pan out, we'd have a number 1/2 pitching in the 4/5 spot. The future looks good.
And as far as JoJo and Morton, trading them now would be selling low. I think Reyes has the stuff to figure it out, but his numbers have been pretty poor.
Posted by: FiNch | January 16, 2009 at 06:40 PM
Maybe it's too early to tell if he's that less effective, but I would put Mike Hampton into that category.
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I think Hampton came back fine from his TJ, it was all the other nagging things that kept him on the shelf for 2 more years. He is less effective than he was, probably, but is that just because he is 3 years older and rusty as hell?
Posted by: Brad426 | January 16, 2009 at 07:43 PM
GREAT news.
But my fellow Braves fans, we CANNOT get overconfident.
First off, Campillo had a good 3/4 of a year and thats it.
Kawakami pitched his whole career to players equivalent to Class A to AAA level minor league players. I have a feeling David Wright and Ryan Howard hit just a bit better then the Japaneese players.
And in regards to Hanson, no need to keep him down in the minors more then this year. I'm hoping he has a spring like Jurrjens did last year and is our #5 thus putting Campillo in the bullpen in a Oscar Villareal role.
Now go sign Ohman and a LF (i say Abreu or deal for Jermaine Dye; both are excellent hitters and would only be here 1-2 years so he wouldnt block Heyward)
2009:
Lowe
Vazquez
Jurrjens
Kawakami
Hanson/Campillo
I still have doubts about Glavine and Morton, who struggled horribly.
2010:
Hudson
Lowe
Vazquez
Jurrjens
Hanson
I figure we trade away Morton/Reyes/Campillo by then to add to our Lineup or 'pen.
GO BRAVES!!
Posted by: bravesfansc | January 16, 2009 at 07:46 PM
And as far as JoJo and Morton, trading them now would be selling low. I think Reyes has the stuff to figure it out, but his numbers have been pretty poor.
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You may be right, but it is also possible he could become the guy that PROVES he isn't good rather the guy with potential. And what are we saving him for? You said yourself the future looks good. Barring injury, do you see Reyes cracking the Brave's rotation any time in the next 3 years?
Posted by: Brad426 | January 16, 2009 at 07:47 PM
I would doubt it. I mean Jo Jo Reyes has looked absolutely horrible at times. The Padres tore him apart for 6 or 7 runs.
Maybe in 3 years, but i really dont see it. It looks like after all Glavine did for us, we cant develop a stud LHP.
GO BRAVES
Posted by: bravesfansc | January 16, 2009 at 08:24 PM
I think Mags Ordonez would be the best fit for a Braves LFer, and RH bat to hit between Chipper and B. Mac.
Is he available? What would it take to get him...maybe Locke, Reyes and B.Jones. I have no idea what the Tigers need. Can the Braves afford his big contract?
GO BRAVOS
Posted by: ColoradoBravesFan | January 17, 2009 at 12:02 AM
If that option is mutual, Huddy's as good as gone after 2009 unless there's some other gravitation which pulls Huddy to stay in ATL.
The 2010 FA SP market outside of John Lackey (if the Angels don't extend him) is riddled with injury prone guys (Harden, Duchscherer) and uncertainties (Myers).
Posted by: melonis rex | January 20, 2009 at 02:23 PM
Cots had this all along. Cots knows all.
Posted by: garriscp | January 20, 2009 at 02:38 PM
Seems odd to have conflicting reports on something as simple as an option. I hope one side did not really misunderstand what kind of option there was. That would be quite... embarassing.
I agree, if it's possible for Huddy to opt out and there's no huge setbacks with the injury, he's gone.
Posted by: CubbyFan23 | January 20, 2009 at 02:46 PM
Gheez Huddy at least be informed about your on contract..Bye Huddy and go get the $$ you deserve it..."though I would love to offer you another year and extention 4/52"... Frank Wren
Posted by: BravoFan3736 | January 20, 2009 at 02:46 PM
Rex..why is he as good as gone?? What info do you have that leads you to believe that? None?? Dumb comment, but it's pretty much what is to be expected on here.
Posted by: njbraves | January 20, 2009 at 02:50 PM
i bet hudson voids it and has a reunion with A's. we could see a recruiting job from his good friends giambi, chavez to get together one last time. how appropriate, hudson help started that late 90's/early 2000's run. then helps out the next wave w/ cahill, anderson, mazzaro, simmons, etc
Posted by: arly2380 | January 20, 2009 at 02:53 PM
"Rex..why is he as good as gone?? What info do you have that leads you to believe that? None?? Dumb comment, but it's pretty much what is to be expected on here."
Don't get me wrong, I want Huddy to stay a Brave. I don't want that guy anywhere near the AL.
1. If Huddy returns from surgery and is not effective, the Braves will not exercise his option because he won't be worth the money. They probably will renegotiate for a smaller amount, but its not a certainty. So yeah, he probably isn't as good as gone, but the chances aren't in the Braves' favor.
2. If Huddy returns and IS effective, the Braves will exercise his option, but will HE exercise his portion of the option? Look at next year's FA SP market. Outside of John Lackey, all the good pitchers are either MAJOR injury risks (Harden, Duchscherer) or inconsistent (Brett Myers). Huddy is less of an injury risk than Duke or Harden, and is a better pitcher than Duke, so he should easily get a better deal on the FA market. It's an ideal situation for him to enter a weak FA market.
Posted by: melonis rex | January 20, 2009 at 05:22 PM
I don't see why the Braves need to throw another big contract at a pitcher next offseason.
I'd rather hold on to Vazquez than give Lackey multiple years. Then Rohrborough/Locke can take over in 2011.
Posted by: melonis rex | January 20, 2009 at 06:06 PM
Our rotation is fine. Our outfield is what needs an upgrade.
Posted by: iamnobody | January 20, 2009 at 11:41 PM