Jason Bay Was Nearly A Brave

god i love bay, im glad he came to the sox. he gave a very nice rejuvenating feel to the club after he got their. i hope he signs an extension and stays

It's cool to think about, though. Where would the Sox be without Bay, given Ortiz' struggles? Where would the Braves be?? Maybe Garrett Anderson plays in Boston this year...

"The Braves would have sent Concepcion Rodriguez, Brent Lillibridge, Brandon Jones and Jeff Locke to the Pirates."

Instead, they went with the Boston route, and landed a package of Andy LaRoche, Brandon Moss, Craig Hansen and Bryan Morris.

Can we PLEASE all agree that the Pirates aren't that dumb now, because if they were, then they would have made the above deal with Atlanta?

The Pirates managed to trade Bay, McLouth, Nady and Marte, essentially their previous core, and in return they landed LaRoche, Moss, Hansen, Tabata, Karstens, Ohlendorf, Morris, McCutchen, Hernandez, Locke and Morton.

Not an awful haul, in my opinion, even if the only guys with any star potential there are probably LaRoche, Tabata, Hernandez, Morirs and Locke.

Things are looking up in Pittsburgh, I think.

The Dodgers gave up more for Casey Blake than the Pirates got for Jason Bay.

"The Dodgers gave up more for Casey Blake than the Pirates got for Jason Bay."

The Dodgers may have given up more for Blake than the Brewers did for Sabathia.

The fact that the Dodgers were willing to include Santana in the offer in exchange for salary relief is INSANE.

Santana is the best prospect to change hands in any deal last year (he's better than LaPorta, he's a catcher), and the fact that he was dealt for Casey Blake just makes it a joke.

"The fact that the Dodgers were willing to include Santana in the offer in exchange for salary relief is INSANE."

And they didn’t even stop there. The Dodgers also sent Meloan at the low-point of his value because of their failed attempt to make him a starter. Remove last year because of that experiment, and he has impressive lines in the minors himself. May not become a star, but enough to make him a co-centerpiece type player in a trade for someone like Blake.

That is one of the truly stupid moves over the last few years. Santana and Meloan (with maybe a throw in) should have brought a true superstar name, not a comparable to DeRosa or Lopez.

Wow, that trade would have been awful for the Pirates. It's not as if the other deal was that much better, but at least Andy LaRoche has looked very good this year. He looks like he'll be a steady contributor but not a star unless the power comes around. Moss is streaky, Morris could be good once he gets over his arm troubles, and I could care less about Hansen.

When the trade was going down, I was praying Pittsburgh would work out a deal with Tampa. I think it would have helped both of those teams greatly and the Rays may very well be in first place if they had Bay. I wanted Niemann to come to the Pirates badly, but now he won't be going anywhere.

Daniel McCutchen, not Andrew.

"The Braves deserve all the scorn and criticism in the world, not just for all the stupid deals they've made the last few years, but also for the way they treated Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz."

Maddux left on his own, Smoltz left on his own, because the BoSox offered more money, and it was about time that someone made Glavine realize his career is over. Glavine left on his own 5+ years ago to go join the Mets. So, in other words, Braves didn't do not one thing wrong, except sign Anderson and Kawakami.

Manny was almost a Marlin, and Hermida was almost a Red Sox.

Jesus Christ. Thanks for ruining my day Ben Nicholson-Smith.

IF ONLY we had Jason bay.

Shouldnt one of the players in the Teixeira trade turn out to be an all star before you put it in a class with those other deals?

To date not a single one of those guys would have started for the Braves at any position

My mistake on not realizing that there are two McCutchens in the Pittsburgh system. I thought maybe they could be brothers with such an uncommon name, but, judging by pictures, i'm pretty sure they're not related. Unless their parents are Brad Pitt/Angelina Jolie wannabes.

MIDTOWN UR A HATER U SUCK!!!!

GO BRAVES

IMAGINE OUR TEAM WITH BAY WE MIGHT BE IN FIRST PLACE

scribbletone, marlins fans, however many there may be, are always crying irregardless of what manny may have done.

oh how I love the what if game, but here's a couple.

WHAT IF the Burkett trade with Boston/Florida never happened. Handley Ramirez would currently be playing short stop for Boston....interesting.

WHAT IF that Braves had signed Peavy?? Better yet what if they had signed Furcal and moved Kelly Johnson to Left, talk about a stuggling offense.

Point being....I don't know it's late and I'm rambling but sometimes the biggest trades are the one's you DON'T make. Because as a Braves fan I like having McClouth for 3 years more than having Jason Bay for a little over year.

Goodnight MLBTR, and stay classy ;)

Ok, does anybody agree with me that the Tex trade to the Angels has been probably the worse trade the Braves has done in franchise history. The braves got in return Casey Kotchman. He is a top 15 firstbaseman in MLB, but Tex is the best firstbaseman if not the best MLB around. Also, they got Stephen Marek who is a 26 year old relief pitcher that has never made a debut higher thatn AA. Did the Braves get ripped off or what. The traded Tex for Kotchman straight up, and freed up a little bit of money.

Brent you're an idiot, it was .5 a season of Texeira for 3.5 seasons of kotchman. Then you factor in the money difference and it's hardly getting ripped off

Why does'nt Time/Warner still have it?

brave4/30
do you even follow baseball?

First off you say ANY coach could have won with Maddux, Smoltz, Glavine. I hardly doubt that. Sure there are some coaches out there who would have had just as good success with the guys, or even better. But there are a ton of coaches who would have pushed to guys too hard or not enough and wouldn't have gotten near the results.
right players+right manager= winning season. Substitute wrong players or wrong mangers and you wont have the same result.

Secondly, Liberty didn't so much buy the team as Ted Turner sold/traded it to him. Liberty owned a lot of Time Warner (Ted Turner's company) and had the aquired slightly more stock from somewhere Liberty would have been full owners of Time Warner, so basically Ted traded the team for stock in his own company and there was cash considerations too. Stickily business but that's how it is.

Thirdly Kelly Johnson doesn't have problems against lefties, in fact I think he is batter close to .300 vs. lefties.

And Finally (deep breath)
I don't think you can put the hitting problems on Terry P. The team was 6th in runs last year and they have had a pretty solid offense since he took over, so it's not ALL him.

ya i heard that story and man my favorite team is the Boston Red Sox but I live in Atlanta so it's hard to say good stuff about that because who knows if he did come to Atlanta we might be leading the division, or we would be above .500. Were doing good now only 4 games back but if we would have gotten Bay that would have been a big boost. Who knows maybe in the off-season Garret Anderson will become a free agent and I know Jason Bay's contract is done at the end of the season and we could sign him if the Red Sox don't. Another thing the Red Sox are interested in Jeff Francoeur so who knows the Red Sox may be buyers at the deadline? But I'll tell you iff we trade Francouer it's gonna be for either J.D Drew or Jason Bay. That's sad the Braves already had his name sewn into a jersey...