Dodgers Acquire George Sherrill

i think it would benefit the os to move him now and build for the future so this is good news

The Dodgers have an ace in Clayton Kershaw, it just depends on whether he has the mental toughness for the post-season. And Billingsley and Wolf are no slouches. If the Dodgers plays the Rockies, Cubs or Giants in the first round, things look good for them. Obviously, the Phillies and Cardinals present match-up problems, but I think they'd be close series. . A could more relievers wil help.

What about the many teams pursuing Bedard...

Oh that's right...

(poor Mariners)

Kershaw is no Ace at this point and did you not see Cards eat Bills alive last night.

Wow, the Erik Bedard trade looks better and better for the Os. The deal was;

SP Erik Bedard

FOR

SP Chris Tillman (DOminating AAA. BA's #1 Midseason pitching prospect)
CF Adam Jones (All-Star)
CL George Sherrill (Quality bullpen arm at peak value)
RP Mickolio (In MLs now)
SP Tony Butler (Injured)

Whatever the Os get for Sherrill, add them to that list. It's ungodly how much they might eventually get back from trading that single player.

Sherrill is not overrated by any means. He hits a rough spot here and there but he adjusted the way he releases the ball and he has been lights out since. He holds down the court against the dreaded AL East. As an Orioles fan, I'd hate to see him go, but some of these prospects may be too much to pass up.

The Dodgers have an ace in Clayton Kershaw, it just depends on whether he has the mental toughness for the post-season. And Billingsley and Wolf are no slouches. If the Dodgers plays the Rockies, Cubs or Giants in the first round, things look good for them. Obviously, the Phillies and Cardinals present match-up problems, but I think they'd be close series. . A could more relievers wil help.

Posted by: Dodgersin2009 | July 29, 2009 at 02:57 PM

Hello.....pay attention. The Dodgers could not play SF or Colorado in the first round of the playoffs.

His main asset is deception. He literally turns his back all the way around, hides the ball, and changes his arm angle with solid command. He will pitch around righties sometimes, but he's a good pitcher.

If you are trying to pick up a player to grow with your team and be a part of a young nucleus, he's not your guy. If you are looking for a dependable veteran who will stay cheap for 2+ years and help you win soon, esp. right now this year, he will be an asset. Usually if you trade for a consistent performer, you have to pay in $. Sherrill is cheap when you factor in how expensive a consistent arm gets.

Does anyone have a clear idea what the O's are asking in return for Sherill?

Cubs fans, please stop the madness. Drinking and commenting hurts you and us. I remember 1.5 years ago, every Cubs fan was posting about what a well kept secret Ronny Cedeno was. Your secret is still safe. Today he was packaged in a trade as a throw-in to return to the NL as a Pirate. Good lord, he was awful.

The Orioles are asking for 2 premium prospects if the other team agrees to pick up some of Sherrill's salary for this year. They'd want 3 premium prospects if they want the Os to pay. By "premium prospects" I think MacPhail meant a B prospect, or, a C prospect with real upside.

Sherrill is still under contract through 2011. The Orioles have a great trade chip here. They just need the right deal to make it happen.

Most likely Jim Johnson

If you really think about it, 2 years of cheap quality service is an asset. The question is how cheap is cheap. As a setup man, he's cheapish. As a closer, he's an extreme bargain. Dealing for Sherrill at minimum can shorten games by having a good arm used to high pressure locking up the 8th.

How much is that worth?

Sherill straight up for wood. Angels give up one player and get a solid lefty with cost controlled years.

Wood won't get it done. We want a pitching prospect as well, and possibly a lower-level minor leaguer.

Wood would play 3B, at least for now. The O's are happy with what Izturis has given them at SS, and they feel his defense is what is helping the young pitchers (particularly Bergesen) be successful.

Rumors with the Dodgers center around Bell.

The Os have 2 SSs right now. Wood's hitting would trump anything they have there now but Itzturis has been seen as an asset with the bat and glove. The bigger question is someone to replace Mora.

Time for Brian Sabean to bolster his bullpen:

Madison Bumgarner for Sherrill

Fields and Poreda for Sherrill. High potential SP and a young fella who needs a change of scenery. As I see it, the White Sox have enough SP depth in the minors/majors to let Poreda go, i.e. Torres and Richard, with a few others looking like they are going to really develop. Baltimore needs to bring in SPs who are ready to serve in the bigs right now, not a year from now, as they need time to adjust as their other prospects start coming up. The Twins have done that very well -- staggering prospects over a few years, so as not to look like a AAAA team any one year.

>> "Who other than Jim Johnson could be in line for the closing role?"

No one really... JJ has seniority in the bullpen as well as the best stuff... Baez is the only other choice and he s*cks.

The Sox would be dumb to send Poreda packing. He seems legit. Throw in Buehrle Danks and Floyd and the Sox have a great YOUNG rotation for next season. Torres and Richard could fight it out for the 5th starter role next year.

I would prefer Bell over Wood, but either would be nice for GS.

Chris Ray is due back in a couple weeks, JJ will hold it down until then

Posted by: PS314 | July 29, 2009 at 08:46 PM

JJ will continue to pitch over Ray, Ray has been awful for 2 years and battled arm issues throughout both years.

give the orioles fields n some throw in if they are dumb enough...it would work out great for the sox...add another bullpen arm n get rid of fields n give his at bats to kotsay...but no way poreda gets involved in this one...hes worth alot more

Wow, got to love the Cubs hate even in this post, stupid. To say they would get nothing for Gregg is about right, but to say Hart and Fox arent worth much is dumb.

Hart is a young pitcher that has made 3 very good starts and has been consistent out of the bull pen for three years and fox is hitting over .310 for crying outloud, he cant play defense that well, but my goodness the guy has DH written all over him.

I wish people werent blinded by the hate for the Cubs and just come up with the same idiotic thought that all Cubs players are crap.

Why do we have to view trades as a zero sum game, where someone wins and the other loses? Why can't they be win-win? OK, don't put Poreda in the deal, and don't plan on getting Sherrill. No possible way they give him up without getting something substantial in return -- why would they? And for all the love Poreda is getting, it is a little hyperbolic. I mean, the guy has thrown a bit out of the pen, that's it. Besides, Williams has looked great at Charlotte, and he dazzled tonight against the Twins. Maybe Poreda is the real thing, but that is the way trades go down: you gotta give up something good to get something good. Kenny Williams knows this. If you try to stiff other GM's, that gets around. Oh, and as Hawk just said, KW might have just found his lefty in Williams...then that ends this discussion.

Allen is gone

If the White Sox want Sherrill, they shouldn't offer the farm.

And they certainly shouldn't deal their first round pick from two years ago who can start next season (Poreda) for a 32 year old setup guy.

I'd say Fields, Torres (trade value is highest now) and a lower level prospect would be a fair deal.

Fields may not be having a good season but he's still got potential to be a productive power hitter.

If offering two B prospects is considered "offering the farm," then there's a bigger problem than picking up bullpen depth. I would think that team is better off keeping their prospects.

I would say that Kuo's apparent return to form (he's looked absolutely dominanting his last 2 outings against the Cards) probably mitigates the need to get Sherrill.

My guess is they are holding Elbert and/or Bell back in case they need to include one or both in a trade for Halladay.

The Dodgers could always go for cheaper alternatives like the Reds' Arthur Rhodes if they get Halladay.

if all Sherrill is going to cost the Dodgers is Josh Bell, do it. Bell strikes me as another billy ashley, or andy laroche, with the promise of big power that just will not produce at the big league level, and if it does it will come with many k's.

Scott Elbert was scratched from his start tonight and George Sherrill did not pitch in the 9th with the O's up by 4. JJ pitched the last 2 innings for the save. GS never even warmed up so I think GS is gone and Elbert is either traded or being called up by LA. It looks like the Dodger O's trade is done, just not announced yet.

Posted by: OrioleVol | July 29, 2009 at 10:27 PM

GS warmed up in the bottom of the 8th last night. He did not enter the game because we scored to make it a non-save situation for Sherill, but still a save situation for JJ, since he came into the game earlier. So don't think that was a precursor to a trade.

Jays24 wrote: Can a Dodger fan run down their prospects?

Well, first, I don't count Kershaw as a prospect as he is solid MLB roster and not moving.

The prospects, as I would rank them:

Pitchers:
Josh Lindblom
Ethan Martin
Scott Elbert
James McDonald
Eric Stults
Position Players:
Devaris Gordon (ss)
Lambo (OF)
Bell (3B)
De Jesus (ss)
De Witt (3B-MLB roster)

If I am the Blue Jays, for Halladay, I would want:
Josh Lindblom, Ethan Martin, Devaris Gordon and Josh Bell

Elbert and DeJesus are injury risks. Stults and DeWitt have lower upsides. I don't have an opinion on Lambo, sounds like power potential is there.

"Wont matter. Without an Ace the Dodgers aren't getting out of the first round sadly."

Like last year?

have we not learned to not trust twitter yet?

IF the Dodgers don't sit Kershaw down, continue to run up his innings heading in to the postseason...it'll be interesting to see if he gets hit with the Verducci Effect, as Cole Hamels has early this season.

Lee vs Billingsley
Advantage Dodgers-- they murder LHP and Lee is overrated.

Hamels vs Kershaw
Advantage Phillies. Hamels owns the Dodgers, but Kershaw is getting better every day, although he may be exhausted by the end of the year.

Blanton vs Kuroda
Advantage Dodgers, presuming Kuroda is healthy.

Happ vs Wolf
Push. Happ is too unknown, he could come up big or he could melt down. Wolf is having a career year and is a LHP.

Sherrill will set up Broxton.

I hate that we have to use July stats in the playoffs. It's so unfair. Who made that rule anyway?

I hate this deal I wanted Bell and Elbert to end up in Cleveland in a Victor Martinez.

This is a good trade for Baltimore if it goes through IMO.

dodgers can't make a deal for halladay or lee but will overpay for a decent lefty reliever?????

smells of casey blake. good guy, good ryan-freel-type, but not worth carlos santana even if indians had thrown in the CD/DVD box set of his entire back catalogue

I did not think Bell would be in this deal. Good trade both sides.

IT'S NOT ELBERT.

I repeat, it's NOT ELBERT.

It was Josh Bell and Steven Johnson.

Angels, where are you??? Your rotation is lackluster to say the least and your bullpen leaves a lot to be desired. The offense has carried this team. Time to get them some help.

Trade some prospects for Heath Bell and Jason Frasor. This team is not likely to stay intact next year, so let's try to win now.

Johnson is a real disappointment to me as an O's fan, and one which downgrades this trade a lot.

I hope the O's love Josh Bell something crazy, because this doesn't seem like the sort of deal which they had been saying would be required to land Sherrill.

Steve Johnson is the son of the former Orioles pitcher turned broadcaster Dave Johnson.

Bell solves 3B or 1B if he can't stick at the hot corner.

Nice pickup MacPhail!

great deal for the dodgers.
Bell was a good player, but a double A player. He still needs time and who knows what can happen.
Kuo ( although shakey), Sherril, Broxton.
good bullpen.

And the prospects Toronto wants are still with the dodgers.

Wow, it looks as though LA still has enough left to be in on Halliday. Stay tuned?

didn't get*

o's didnt get elbert... they got steve johnson and bell...