Red Sox, Mets Discussed Castillo For Lowell

TUESDAY, 12:52pm: Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports finds Castillo "highly unlikely to be traded, for Lowell or anyone else."  Joel Sherman of the New York Post learned that the Mets and Red Sox have not discussed a Castillo-Lowell swap for weeks.

MONDAY, 9:52pm: WEEI.com's Rob Bradford writes that a Castillo-for-Lowell deal is "not close."  He feels that it's most likely Lowell will have to prove his health in Spring Training before a trade occurs.  Meanwhile, Yahoo's Tim Brown tweets that the Rangers "have not ruled out re-engaging on Lowell."

6:56pm: ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick tweets, "I just heard that Red Sox have talked to the Mets about a Mike Lowell-for-Luis Castillo trade. Not sure how serious it is." He adds that Lowell is expendable with Adrian Beltre in the fold. Also, with Castillo gone, the Mets could go after Orlando Hudson.

The deal certainly clears an unwanted player for both teams. But while it is easy to see Lowell getting some at-bats for the Mets at first, and even spelling David Wright at third base, where Castillo fits in- given his poor defense at second base, and the existence of Dustin Pedroia– with Boston is harder to understand.

The money would be even in such a deal. Lowell is owed $12MM in 2010, while Castillo is owed $6MM in each of the next two years.


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178 Comments on "Red Sox, Mets Discussed Castillo For Lowell"


5 years 7 months ago

PLEASE LET THIS BE TRUE!!!!!!!!!

5 years 7 months ago

Why on earth would the redsox do this, obviously they want to free up cash, but where do they expect to play him?

donutvt
5 years 7 months ago

Castillo’ AAV is low enough that he drops the Sox under the luxury tax. Even if he’s a backup this year and they cut him next spring, the Sox pay the same amount of dollars in salary and avoid paying the luxury tax.

MorrisParkMetfan
5 years 7 months ago

Please NO!!!!!!!!

aeqr
5 years 7 months ago

I’ve been talking about this for a while. It’s a great move but only if the Red Sox eat some of the salary.

5 years 7 months ago

why would the Sox have to eat any salary? it seems even to me. 6m for 2 years and 12 for 1

aeqr
5 years 7 months ago

At this point, only because he comes with a big “?” from surgery. If this was during Spring Training and you actually see the guy playing then I’ll say it’s fair even.

aeqr
5 years 7 months ago

At this point, only because he comes with a big “?” from surgery. If this was during Spring Training and you actually see the guy playing then I’ll say it’s fair even.

5 years 7 months ago

why would the Sox have to eat any salary? it seems even to me. 6m for 2 years and 12 for 1

fracchi
5 years 7 months ago

why where would the sox play him mabe they trade him?

redsox4434
5 years 7 months ago

Yeah, maybe. This will sound idiotic, but maybe in a package to get A-Gon, or some minor league prospects. I don’t know who they’d trade Castillo to, though.

MorrisParkMetfan
5 years 7 months ago

As a Met fan I don’t want to see this happen

5 years 7 months ago

why not?

5 years 7 months ago

yah, if lowell gets his swing back hes a pretty decent hitter. from what i saw when the mets were playing the yankees id rather have a parapalegic as our back up instead of him

wowww
5 years 7 months ago

lol

Mercenary480
5 years 7 months ago

As A Mets fan… I would like to see this…

As a Baseball fan, I fail to see how this makes any sense for boston… Yeah Lowell becomes expendable for boston… Castillo would already be useless in Boston… Both lack defense but Lowell is a better hitter unless you want castillo to come off the bench to bunt…. And I can see Lowell being a good RH DH if Ortiz starts to struggle against Lefties

kcjones21
5 years 7 months ago

it possibly brings them under the luxury tax. instead of lowell’s 12 million on tab for one year, it would be two years of castillo for 6 million. not sure if this is theo’s thought process but who knows…plus castillo i imagine will just be flipped elsewhere or used as a utility guy. he sure wouldnt be starting for the sox next season barring any injuries

dmsr015
5 years 7 months ago

I would personally like this deal for the Mets.
imagine this line-up:
1) Reyes ss
2) Hudson 2b
3) Beltran cf
4) Bay lf
5) Wright 3b
6) Molina c
7)frenchy rf
8) Lowell 1b

DIRTY!!! get it done omar!!!

5 years 7 months ago

who’s frenchy??

5 years 7 months ago

jeff francoeur

atlbraves312
5 years 7 months ago

I can’t believe you didn’t know who was frenchy.

Suzysman
5 years 7 months ago

Hey, I wish I could forget who Frenchy is! Consider Jeremiah lucky.

Infield Fly
5 years 7 months ago

I second that!!

waterdog333
5 years 7 months ago

and when did the mets sign molina good luck getting him after bayy

5 years 7 months ago

Lowell won’t be hitting 9th..

5 years 7 months ago

Lowell won’t be hitting 9th..

edgardovalentincolon
5 years 7 months ago

nooo sign piƱeiro and/or chapman, and molina and will be goood!!!

5 years 7 months ago

Castillo? Why would the Dead Sox want Ca$hstealo?

nycstateofmind
5 years 7 months ago

haha i like that Cashstealo..back in 08 when Delgado was slumpin it was Delcrapo lol

Ferrariman
5 years 7 months ago

Where would they put pedroia.. On castillo’s lap?

waterdog333
5 years 7 months ago

they could always move pedroia to ss like he said he would be open to the move and then move scutaro to a utility role and then castillo doent always have to play with scutero starting 4 games a week at ss perdria plays ss 3 days and 2b 4 days with castillo at 2b 3 times a week and then pinch running for ortiz

MorrisParkMetfan
5 years 7 months ago

Why would the Mets do this deal

Mercenary480
5 years 7 months ago

Platoon player with Murphy while freeing up a slot for Orlando Hudson…. The real question is why would Boston do this

0bsessions
5 years 7 months ago

If there’s no cash changing hands?

Because it would keep them under the luxury tax threshold this season and it’s irrelevant next season with Ortiz and Varitek both full on off the books.

Bluntly speaking, from a Sox fan perspective, I would rather eat $6 million a year over two years than $12 million in one season when as close to the tax threshold as the Sox.

Mercenary480
5 years 7 months ago

True, and I guess they could then eat money on castillo and flip him easier to save even more(maybe eat 3mil this year and 3mil next year) to get back weak prospects. (Cuz everyone knows the cheap Mets wont eat money on a contract)

This way, Sox essentially got rid of Lowell for 3M this year and 3M next year to, and thats 9M more they can spend to stay below Luxury Taxes.

5 years 7 months ago

Don’t forget Lugo and possibly Beltre come off the books as well.

And I totally agree with you about the tax threshold. But I would love the idea of platooning Papi and Lowell at the DH position.

gov190
5 years 7 months ago

Pedroia is going to be moved over to short..castillo plays second..Beltre at third..youk at first Papi DH. Mets get Lowell & Delgado,sign Hudson for second.where can i sign for this, make happend Omar.

5 years 7 months ago

I dont want this to happen as a Met fan just another injury concern.

5 years 7 months ago

dislike

MorrisParkMetfan
5 years 7 months ago

Thats the reason why I don’t want this to happen plus Dum Dum Jerry would start him every day even when he would be in a slump

daniel_san
5 years 7 months ago

The money is not even. You have to consider the time value of money. Why do you think backloaded contracts exist? X dollars in Year 3 is worth less than the same X dollars in Year 0.

5 years 7 months ago

YES!!!! Lowell could platoon with Murphy! Please let it be true! Sign Hudson, Pinero and Bedard after please! and Ollie be traded at once!!

dire straits
5 years 7 months ago

And delusion has set it in, folks.

5 years 7 months ago

Delusion? That all could happen guy

Mercenary480
5 years 7 months ago

If the Mets had the Yankee Payroll yes it could… The Mets have MAYBE 15Milish left for this year to spend…. Lowell would eat 6M more if its an even trade leaving them with 9M and a hole at 2B(meaning they’d need hudson so that could be another 5M) leaving them with 4M to deal with the rotation.

nycstateofmind
5 years 7 months ago

look killah, unless ur work for the Mets please stop pretending you know how much money the Mets are or are not willing to spend. There is absolutely no documented proof as to how much the Mets want the payroll to be next season

5 years 7 months ago

Not Even Pinero is going to cost an arm and a leg. Sure Hudson can and would sign, but not sure what Bedard wants. Rumors having him going back to the Baltimore.

txftw
5 years 7 months ago

Rumors whisper. Cash speaks.

Infield Fly
5 years 7 months ago

Let him! Not even the O’s know when he’d be ready to start his season!

bucs_lose_again
5 years 7 months ago

Not really sure what you plan on trading Oliver Perez for. You’d probably have to take on a really bad contract and a case of genital warts to get him off your team.

danielpwnz
5 years 7 months ago

It’s possible the Sox could flip Castillo. He could probably be moved quicker than an injured Lowell.

ArmchairGM
5 years 7 months ago

Frankly I think it’d be easier to move Lowell than Castillo, both are awful defenders at this point in their careers but Lowell is the better hitter. This move makes no sense at all.

Suzysman
5 years 7 months ago

nah man, the Cubs would likely take Castillo for one of Baker/Fontenot and a piece or two if the BoSox ate cash to help us afford it.

We kind of desperately need him (and how pitiful is THAT? Lol)

diehardmets
5 years 7 months ago

I’d rather just see the Cubs take Castillo, pay 6 mil of his salary over then next two years, and send a B prospect to the Mets. Honestly I don’t want Lowell, I want Delgado.

NYYANKEES
5 years 7 months ago

Castillo a very expensive backup I guess

patsfanatic2010
5 years 7 months ago

LOL. So the RSox will have their own Nick Punto. Minus the defense and 2 million more a year.

jdat11
5 years 7 months ago

they would do this for luxury tax purposes, 6 mil a year for 2 years, instead of 12 mil in one.

Aaron4289
5 years 7 months ago

Castillo for backup infielder? Didn’t Sox FO say Lowrie was starting the year in AAA?

Mickeyblue
5 years 7 months ago

This makes absolutely zero sense for Boston especially since they wouldn’t even be clearing any payroll doing it to stay under tax.

Super_Hero
5 years 7 months ago

they would clear 6 million for this yr. the other 6 is next yrs payroll problems.

D_rake
5 years 7 months ago

It has no effect on trying to stay under the luxury tax.

5 years 7 months ago

Yeah it would. Castillo AAV is 6 million, Lowell is 12. That is six million.

5 years 7 months ago

Yeah it would. Castillo AAV is 6 million, Lowell is 12. That is six million.

Mickeyblue
5 years 7 months ago

Ok then I guess it does make sense rather than only saving $3mil or less eating $9 or more this year. One thing I never known is if a player is released does that still count against the tax? If the BoSox released Lowell would his $12mil not count against the tax since he isn’t on the roster or does it not matter since they’re still paying him

5 years 7 months ago

Count me in as one that thinks this deal makes no sense for Boston…or the Mets.
Lowell switching his position at 35 would personally scare me. anyone who say’s “Oh, throw him at 1B, anyone can play there” is just clueless.

BigWillySwanga
5 years 7 months ago

Why in the world would the Red Sox eat money? Castillo is by far the less valuable of the two players the only reason I see the Sox taking it is 6 mil AAV taken off the luxury tax payroll

baruchk
5 years 7 months ago

as most of you are obviously not aware, luxury tax payroll isnt the same as regular payroll. making this trade should get them under luxury tax minimum, and they dont need lowell anyway, and this is the best you’ll get for lowell

BigWillySwanga
5 years 7 months ago

that’s what i was saying, but other than that this is a terrible trade for the sox. if they paid money to the mets along with lowell, it would negate the 6 mil difference in luxury tax hit since it would still count, and end up making it an awful deal.

pdoubleu
5 years 7 months ago

Really? Lowell made $12.5MM last year and was worth $5.4MM, while Castillo was worth $7.2MM and was paid $6MM (per fangraphs).