Odds & Ends: Aramis, Podsednik, Huff, Hawpe

Links for Thursday, exactly two years after the Padres traded Greg Maddux to the Dodgers…


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34 Comments on "Odds & Ends: Aramis, Podsednik, Huff, Hawpe"


4 years 11 months ago

Good work Rockies management. Don’t trade high when you have a massive minor league system. Hold on to those players till you have to release them! Idiots

$1529282
4 years 11 months ago

Imagine what they could’ve gotten for Atkins and Hawpe if they’d traded them at the right time… at least they did well with Holliday.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 11 months ago

I just don’t understand why they would release him instead of DFA’ing him first.

As for Aubrey Huff, This guy is going to get a ton of money this off-season. I say the Orioles will sign him…Joke. But seriously I say Cubs…2yrs/$20MM.

redsandyanksfan
4 years 11 months ago

hm 10 million a season ,I’m not sure about this but if i was Huff and his agent i would see if i could get a 3 year deal 24-27 million at the point in his career i would rather have the years than the money on the 2 year deal but its depends if any team offers him more than a 2 year deal if not then your proposal is a good offer with a mutual option on 3

Dave_Gershman
4 years 11 months ago

I see what you are saying. Maybe just. 3rd year mutual option as you said, but like Dunn, this is Huff’s last chance to get a multi year deal as Ben said about Dunn yesterday. We’ll see.

redsandyanksfan
4 years 11 months ago

I think Dunn has a better chance to get a 4 year deal maybe, Because Adam is a lot younger than Aubrey has a ton of offensive value ,Huff has been nothing short of tremendous hitter for the giants, He is versatile so i can see the 2 year deal mutual 3.

4 years 11 months ago

I don’t see Huff getting too much attention on the FA market. He’ll be 34 next season.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 11 months ago

I don’t see how that matters. He’s had a great season.

4 years 11 months ago

So you wouldn’t have a problem signing any aging player who has a renaissance season before they’re a free agent?

Dave_Gershman
4 years 11 months ago

I don’t understand what you wrote, literally, could you just reiterate?

He is obviously showing that he has a ton left in the tank. Having a tremendous season.

EdinsonPickle
4 years 11 months ago

What he’s saying is that huff is 34, and having a good season just a year after putting up a .241/.310/.384 line. He is a free agent next year, which means that he could be playing well leading up to this offseason because it will put him in line for a big contract. It’s more realistic to think that Huff will play closer to his 09 numbers than his 2010 line. That is where a team may have hesitation to sign him to a big contract.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 11 months ago

Right but he’s going to demand a big contract regardless and I don’t blame him. If a team wants him, might be worth it.

JohnnyC
4 years 11 months ago

National League teams will be all over him. American League teams not so much.

$1529282
4 years 11 months ago

Seriously?

4 years 11 months ago

are we forgetting who Beltre’s Agent is Pete Abraham?

redsandyanksfan
4 years 11 months ago

As a baseball fan , If Beltre hits the open market the cardinals better pony up some cash for him. I know there budget is limited with Albert having to get resigned and Holidays contracts but Adrian would fill that 3rd base whole they have

jwredsox
4 years 11 months ago

Doubtful. They have to pay Pujols and Wainwright will be up for a raise soon too. They will have close to (or more than) 60mil in 3 players for a team whose payroll (If I remember right) has never topped 100mil. Don’t quote me on that though but I remember it being talked about after Holliday signed his huge extension. Bu either way I think it will be hard for them to commit another 15mil to a player when they have Freese coming back from injury next season.’

Edit: they have topped 100mil before but not by much. They tend to hover around that 100mil amount.

Fangaffes
4 years 11 months ago

If the Cardinals want Beltre for the playoff run, they should make an offer. By next week he may be available. Of course, the offer needs to be substantially better than:
a) the two high draft picks the Sox would get by letting him go to free agency and
b) keeping their sellout streak alive

On the other hand, the Cards would get the two high draft picks out of it, since they won’t be able to afford $15M for Beltre next year.

Fangaffes
4 years 11 months ago

One other thing. If they get him, the Cardinals should invest in flack jackets for their left fielders.

fitz
4 years 11 months ago

Their sellout streak isn’t going to end over Beltre being there or not.

Fangaffes
4 years 11 months ago

It would not end because of Beltre’s popularity. It would end because people would see trading him as throwing in the towel. The sellout streak is already on life support.

fitz
4 years 11 months ago

Not exactly.

Hermie13
4 years 11 months ago

How exactly are the Cardinals trading for Beltre? Even if he’s made available, there is no way he gets to the Cards before someone claims him. Every AL team has to pass….no way do the Twins, White Sox, Rays, and Rangers all let him pass.

There is a 0% chance Beltre gets traded to the Cards for the playoff run. Better chance of me suiting up for the Cardinals this year.

Fangaffes
4 years 11 months ago

Do any of those teams have both the money to pony up for Beltre’s remaining salary and a desperate for a 3B? Certainly not the Rays.

Hermie13
4 years 11 months ago

Fangaffes……

It doesn’t matter if they have the money. You obviously don’t know how the waiver trade system works. All the Rays have to do is claim him. Then either the Red Sox trade him to the Rays or they keep him til the end of the year. Rays could claim him just to keep him from getting to the Yanks or an NL team. They don’t have to pay him.

And no way do the Red Sox just let Beltre go for nothing but salary relief (those draft picks are way too valuable).

And the Twins and White Sox definitely have the cash to add Beltre. Possibly even the Rangers (though hard to say with the ownership thing). Even the Rays likely do as it’s getting to the point where he’ll be owed less than $2M.

Again, even before the Feliz trade, there was a 0% chance of Beltre getting dealt to the Cardinals. None, nada, zilch.

AmericanMovieFan
4 years 11 months ago

I could see Beltre getting 4 years/$50MM (sacrifice $10MM for that extra guaranteed year) and Huff getting 2 years/$19MM w/ a vesting option for a 3rd year at $8MM.

ykw
4 years 11 months ago

“It’s been a rough year for Hawpe”

Yeah, his offense has been pedestrian this year (wRC+: 101), but his defense has made great strides over the previous few seasons. He’s certainly had a better year (when he’s been permitted to play) than he had just two years ago, when nobody in the game was suggesting he should get the boot. If he lands somewhere with a much smaller patch of ground in right than he was forced to cover in Denver, he’ll be that much more useful.

Trouble is, nobody in serious contention really has much interest in him. The Padres could use the league-average bat he represents this year, but even the sleeker and more mobile 2010 Hawpe can’t cover the extra ground he’d have in Petco. SF could have used him when the alternative was Nate Schierholz, but not so much now. The Rays have something of a need, but seem content to finally give Matt Joyce the extended opportunity they denied him in 2009. The ChiSox have a need in RF too, but what passes for their brain trust there clearly doesn’t perceive it as such.

crunchy1
4 years 11 months ago

The honor is all yours Aramis.

4 years 11 months ago

How generous and noble of you Aramis

markjsunz
4 years 11 months ago

You want the dodgers to trade Manny. How about trading the waring McCourts. Hopefully back where they belong to the Bowels of boston. There is not a ENOUGH of Ill gotten gain or spray on west coast suntan to give either of them anything resuming class. It looks now like frank Forged ownership papers to beat his wife out of her cut. Nice thing to do to the woman who you had four children with you no account SOB. FRANK TELL US IT IS NOT SO?

4 years 11 months ago

ya id “honor” it to if i was hitting 230 and it was for 16mil.

4 years 11 months ago

I feel bad for Aramis, how will he ever get the motivation to honor that $16 million contract? I guess you can’t win them all…

4 years 11 months ago

So… Podsednick will be a FA…

Hermie13
4 years 11 months ago

I don’t disagree that this is likely what Beltre and his agent will be looking for (well maybe not “that” much)…..but any team that gives it to him apparently didn’t see him in LA and Seattle when he signed his big deals.

The guy only plays well when it’s of benefit to him (ie, contract year) and even then he gets hurt or slacks off at times.

I’d offer him 2yr/$25M tops if I’m the Red Sox. If he passes, so be it. Even 3 years is too long for him unless that 3rd year is a vesting option of some sort.

That said….some idiot team out there will offer the big bucks. I’m thinking the Giants…..though the Angels make a ton of sense. And maybe Scioscia can keep Beltre focused….