Heyman On Werth, Jeter, Mets

Conventional wisdom says Jayson Werth won’t be playing for the Phillies in 2011, but someone familiar with the team’s thinking tells Jon Heyman of SI.com that he expects the Phillies to try hard to re-sign the outfielder. Here’s the latest on Werth, plus other updates from around the league:

  • Heyman hears that the Phillies suggested a Jason Bay-like contract to Werth this summer (four years, $66MM) and he rejected the idea.
  • Some baseball people say they would not be surprised to see Derek Jeter seek a six-year deal this offseason. Heyman hears hints that the Yankees are thinking about offering a three-year contract. Hal Steinbrenner said yesterday that negotiations could get messy with Jeter.
  • The Mets will have one of baseball’s most expensive front offices. Omar Minaya earns over $2MM, Sandy Alderson makes an estimated $2-3MM and J.P. Ricciardi won’t be cheap either.


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69 Comments on "Heyman On Werth, Jeter, Mets"


Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

So Jeter wants a 6 year deal and also the “Derek Jeter” money. Call me crazy, but there is no way the Yankees give him a 6/yr $120-150MM deal. No way at all and if it’s not the Yankees, there is no way any team gives him that. They will have to wait out the market until his price eventually drops…Or if Heyman’s sources are wrong it should be 3-4 18-25MM anually.

Since_77
4 years 9 months ago

I agree that the Yankees should not bid against themselves but the offer should be no more the 3 years at 8 or 10 million per year.

pastlives
4 years 9 months ago

and again with the “some baseball people”…Heyman probably just makes this stuff up for stories

Slopeboy
4 years 9 months ago

It should read ‘some delusional baseball people’. Jeter knows he’s not getting 6 years from anybody. I can’t see his agent making any kind proposal like that, even as an opening bid. Heyman has been coming up with some really off-the-wall tweets lately, I’m still waiting for him to get the Bobby V- managerial situation correct.

oleosmirf
4 years 9 months ago

if Jeter was that selfish (which he’s not) and said give me 6 years or im not coming back the Yankees would have no choice to give in.

Slopeboy
4 years 9 months ago

Why would you engage in a hypothetical absurdity when you know that will never take place?

rpriske
4 years 9 months ago

If I was the Yankees I would offer him a 10 year deal that includes a claus that the Yankees can switch him to a personal services contract (at a lower rate) when they deem it is time for him to retire. He then has the option to opt out if he doesn’t agree that it is time to retire.

It seems like the best way to accomodate the fact that he is both aging and THE face of the Yankees.

Slopeboy
4 years 9 months ago

Jeter would never sign something like that. That sounds good, but how does that work for Jeter?
1. The Yankees get to tell when to retire even if he disagrees
2.The lower personal services contract is a pay cut.
3. His ‘opt out’ is NOT an opt out- what is the alternative? What does he get?

bj82
4 years 9 months ago

I would pay Jeter 13MM over 3 years. He must be delusional if he wants 6 years right after his decline years started.

4 years 9 months ago

No way will Jeter get a six year deal from anybody, After his worst offensive season ever and his diminishing range at ss, He dosen’t have a shot at six, Maybe not 3. This should be very interesting…Pox on the Evil Empire

Opinionated_In_Bangor
4 years 9 months ago

I am ok with giving Jeter a 3-4 year deal… Something like 4/40…

4 years 9 months ago

Jeter is one of the biggest overpaid players I have ever seen. What is his true value?

pastlives
4 years 9 months ago

prob the same contract scutaro signed

Ian
4 years 9 months ago

I think the yanks should sign jeter a 2 or 3 year deal. He’s absolutly insane if he wants 6years

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Years let alone, he wants 20MM dollars!!!!! Come on. If he gets that much I would sign Cory Aldridge to a 8yr/100MM deal.

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

Where did you hear he wants $20 million. I can’t find a source saying how much he wants a year.

4 years 9 months ago

As much as the Yankees “need” Jeter, he needs them too. Not only for the salary he’s going to get, which is probably going to be higher than anyone else would pay, but also for the endorsement deals he’s surely got going in NY. Biggest market, larger endorsements. I have to think negotiations are going to go smoothly because quite frankly they each got the other by the short and curlies, so to speak. They need one another.

Tobi1
4 years 9 months ago

You can’t cut Jeter’s pay….4yrs $88mm

4 years 9 months ago

Sure you can. His play is regressing, why shouldn’t his pay? He’s already been paid for what he’s done, how about his next contract pays him fairly for what he will do and not what he did do?

xslider138
4 years 9 months ago

yes you can while he is a stable for the team if he thinks he can make over 20 mil per then thats why it could get messy. It comes down to years and money. He will no doubt resign but not for as much .. i’m thinking 15mil per.. otherwise let him go out and find a team willing to offer him 20m per and 5-6 years..they won’t be out there.. someone else said it he needs the yankees just as much as they need him.. he will look like the bad guy if he doesn’t take the pay cut and shops for more money and that will tarnish his image

Ricky
4 years 9 months ago

Why not c’mon dude – he’s making bank anyway you slice it – it’s all ego right now

Tobi1
4 years 9 months ago

You can’t cut Jeter’s pay…3 or 4 yrs at 22mm

4 years 9 months ago

Actually, his last contract was 10-yrs, $189 million. You’d be giving him a raise. Yeah, he earned more than $18.9 million last year at the end of the contract but he’s not even an $18 million dollar player anymore, why pay him $22 million?

4 years 9 months ago

I would be ecstatic if they got a 2 year deal out of him. I can live with three. Anything more than that, thanks for the memories Jeet.

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

No way Jeter wants a 6 year deal..
He did well in not getting married, having a family too early. He’s made a boatload of money, can play for a few more years and then retire and be with his family. I think at most you can go with a 4 deal.

4 years 9 months ago

Agreed.

Zuidvogels
4 years 9 months ago

6 years for Jeter? He better have some incriminating photos of Cashman or Hank to get that.

If he manages 3+ years, the Yankees have absolutely no backbone.

invader3k
4 years 9 months ago

Maybe the Yankees can give him a five or six year contract, but with a huge buyout that diminishes towards the final year of the deal. Just a thought. I’m sure he’ll be looking for guaranteed money, though. All MLB players do.

It’s not like they can’t afford him or are going to let him walk, though. The guy is the face of the franchise and I imagine will probably always have a job with the Yankees in some capacity. Cashman and the Steinbrenner Bros. don’t want to be the men who sent “Derek Jeter” (said in Hal Sheppard voice) to another team.

AmericanMovieFan
4 years 9 months ago

No way is Jeter delusional enough to believe he can command 6 years/$120 million. Forget the dollars, even at league minimum he wouldn’t get a 6 year deal with the way he’s been playing. If he were to explore the market I wouldn’t give him anything more than 2 years/$15MM with a club option for $9MM with a $3MM buy out and right there that’s purely out of respect. ANYBODY ELSE with Jeter’s numbers, heading into free agency and being 37 the first year of a new contract would be lucky to get offers of 1 year/$2-3MM guaranteed.
I would like to see him take a 2 years/$20MM deal and then accept a reduced role and hope that Eduardo Nunez steps up. I love Jeter but his time is coming to a close. He got that final ring. Don’t overstay your welcome.

Slopeboy
4 years 9 months ago

Finally some one with common sense!!. Thank You

AmericanMovieFan
4 years 9 months ago

As for Werth: 4 years/$56MM seems like the most reasonable deal there. He’s delusional if he thinks he’ll get 5 years/$90MM or 6 years/$90MM or whatever it is he thinks he’s worth.

xslider138
4 years 9 months ago

Somebody is going to overpay for Werth. I’m guessing whoever loses out on Crawford. As much as most people agree that he isn’t worth 90mm. He could get close b/c a team will try to make a drastic move to show the fan base they are trying to compete.

4 years 9 months ago

Yeah, I think that’s what’s going to happen too. Werth is pretty good and all but in a strong free agent year he wouldn’t be a top 2 hitter, he’d have to settle. It’s his good luck that there aren’t many good outfield bats available and he’s going to capitalize on it with some team that’s likely going to regret the deal towards the end of it. I hope he gets all he can, I just hope he gets it from a team I don’t like.

AmericanMovieFan
4 years 9 months ago

To me, Werh is the offensive version of Derek Lowe. He’s had the good fortune of being on good, perennial post-season clubs and thus his numbers and accumen is inflated and he’s deemed to be worth A-list consideration when he’s a 2nd tier outfielder and of average power at best.

Muggi
4 years 8 months ago

I wouldn’t go THAT far. His skills are obvious.

He’s not a Batman, but he’s a very good Robin.

4 years 9 months ago

Sorry but anything with the name “Jon Heyman” attached to it is automatic BS.

Yankees0619
4 years 9 months ago

Jeter a six year deal and after the thrid he becomes the manager?

4 years 9 months ago

lol after 3 yrs so jeters getting 3 yrs poss 45-60 mill to manage the yanks lololol u must be a genius…

Gumby65
4 years 9 months ago

I doubt Jeter would ever want to manage (I bet Posada may be an option after Girardi’s deal) Jeter seems to be the charismatic Jock-in-the booth or analyst type; not a slam at all, but he seems to be the type to make more than a few bucks at that.