Trade Market For Right-handed Starters

It's a murky trade market for right-handed starters.  We can assume certain pitchers with burdensome contracts can be had, but the availability of the more interesting names is unknown.

Bad Contracts

Derek Lowe ($30MM through '12), A.J. Burnett ($49.5MM through '13), Daisuke Matsuzaka ($20MM through '12), Aaron Cook ($9.75MM through '11), Carlos Zambrano ($35.875MM through '12), Kenshin Kawakami ($6.667MM through '11), and Gil Meche ($12MM through '11) fill out this group.  Some contracts are worse than others, and names like Lowe and Zambrano are not necessarily on the market.

Are They Available?

We've got six interesting righties who could hit the market: Zack Greinke, Shaun MarcumJeremy Guthrie, Matt Garza, James Shields, and Jeff Niemann.  Greinke would really shake up the pitching market, though the price would be huge and he has a partial no-trade clause.  The Rays are at least six-deep in their rotation, causing many to wonder if Garza, Shields, Niemann, or at least Andy Sonnanstine could be available.  The Orioles might prefer the stability Guthrie adds, though this could be a sell-high opportunity.  Marcum is under team control for two more years; is there any good reason to flip him?

The Marlins' Ricky Nolasco could be a name to watch this summer, as could Chicago's Edwin Jackson.

Non-Tender Candidates

We mentioned Kyle Davies, Brian Bannister, Jeff Karstens, Dustin Moseley, John Maine, Sergio Mitre, and Brandon McCarthy as non-tender candidates earlier.  If a team is willing to tender a contract, we could see trades in advance of the December 2nd non-tender deadline.

Summary

The free agent market for right-handed starters is uninspiring, but names like Greinke, Garza, and Shields would spice up the landscape considerably.


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  1. Everyone assumes that since the Rays have depth, that they’ll shop Garza/Sheilds. What about the Jays depth at SP? with Rzep, Drabek and Shawn Hill all capable of handling a back-of-the-rotation spot next year, doesn’t that make Marcum and/or Cecil expendable?

    • coachofall 5 years ago

      I personally don’t put the Jays guys (even Marcum) at the same level as Garza. I see a lot of #3/4 starters on the Jays roster with no aces, see Morrow as closer to a Johnathan Sanchez as opposed to a Cain or Linc to keep with the current events. I do think there is value to acquiring one, just not at the cost it woudl probably take.

      • Sniderlover 5 years ago

        A lot of #3/4 starters? Lol okay…

        • coachofall 5 years ago

          look at it this way there Snider (Who I think will have an exceptional 2011 year) what Jays starter would be in the top 2 of any of the other AL East, AL West (exception of Sea), or AL Central Teams (exception maybe for KC). They are a nice staff but not a single guy who is a “top of the Rotation” guy

          • There’s no rotation in baseball that Ricky Romero wouldn’t be top 2 in. His change-up has been constantly referred to as “Johan-Santanaesque”
            Brandon Morrow would have led the AL in strikeouts if he hadn’t been shut down early. Aside from a horrible April (in his first full season as a starter) his other peripherals were amazing. You will regret underestimating him.
            Brett Cecil was 11-1 vs the AL east, the concensus toughest division in baseball, with an ERA under 3. He may not be top 2 on other staffs, but he would be a solid 3.

            I shouldn’t have to educate you on Jays Pitchers, but it highlights how undervalued they are.

          • coachofall 5 years ago

            i do admire a fans passion; That being said i think you may be overvlauing what you want to think as opposed to looking at it through a statistical eye. Romero, Cecil, Morrow are young guys with upside who most MLB squads would love to have. I commend the Jays for locking up Romero as someone they can build a staff around. But to say There isnt a staff Ricky Romero and his 3.75 era wouldnt be top 2 in, is showing a little more passion than thought. Hell he wouldn’t be an upgrade to the to 4 spots of the A’s rotation

          • SplitFingeredPujol 5 years ago

            I’m not a Jays fan, so this isn’t blind passion speaking here. But you need to consider more than just ERA when comparing Jays starters to the A’s starters. Oakland has a very pitcher-friendly ballpark (their starters’ home/road splits say it all), and Oakland starters aren’t facing either the Yankees, Red Sox, or Rays in half or more of their starts.

          • hombrej 5 years ago

            Romero is 3 in StL….

          • And Boston, and San Francisco…

          • Hermie13 5 years ago

            Yeah, slightly exagerrating with Romero there. A few rotations where he wouldn’t be a top 2.

            I do agree though, I think the Jays rotation is pretty underrated. I agree with coachofall though that the Jays do not have a legit Ace right now…

            Then again, neither did the Rays in 2008 when they went to the World Series. Having a ton of #2/3 guys can win you a pennant these days.

            I’m not sure this winter is the time to move pitching though if you’re the Jays. While Drabek could probably handle the backend of the rotation early on….why force it if you don’t have to?

            If they did make a guy like Cecil available though….you’d get a ton of teams calling. Solid lefty who is young and cheap. I wouldn’t trade him now if I’m the Jays…but I’d hope the Indians would call on his availability if rumors abound that he’s on the block. Maybe something around Canadian-born Nick Weglarz?

          • Encarnacion's Parrot 5 years ago

            Yeah, slightly exagerrating with Romero there. A few rotations where he wouldn’t be a top 2.

            Read what he actually said this time.

            He may not be top 2 on other staffs, but he would be a solid 3.

          • Yankees420 5 years ago

            I think that you might actually want to re-read it yourself….

            “There’s no rotation in baseball that Ricky Romero wouldn’t be top 2 in.”

            Which prompted Hermie13’s reply.

            Your quote of “He may not be top 2 on other staffs, but he would be a solid 3″ was in reference to Brett Cecil.

          • Encarnacion's Parrot 5 years ago

            Indeed it was. I’m definitely a numpty today.

          • RedSoxDynasty 5 years ago

            just to answer your question, no way Romero would be top 2 in Boston over Lester/Buchholz, Philly Doc/Oswalt, STL Carpenter/Wainwright or SF with Lincecum/Cain! Just saying!

          • Andy Mc 5 years ago

            4/30

          • moonraker45 5 years ago

            morrow’s second half of the year (after his delivery tweeks) was as good as any other ace in the league minus the obvious few.. Morrow can easily be an ace as of next year. if romero and cecil develop they can both be strong 2’s and marcum is a solid 2 already..

            so if you have a bunch of bonafide #2 starters 1-5 thats a bit different then you saying the jays have a lot of #3, 4 starters on their roster.. As I see it now the jays have no number 4 on their opening day roster .

          • coachofall 5 years ago

            again, they were 21st in MLB Starting pitching….that isn’t good. Are they young? Yes. Do they have upside? With the exception of Marcum (who is already pushing 30)? yes! Do they have a number 1 starter? No. Borderline 2’s….maybe but again the future does look bright just minus a true ace

          • moonraker45 5 years ago

            21st in mlb starting pitching.. take the black hole that was the 5th starters position.

            Rzep, Mills, TALLET, surely brought that stat down.. its an irrelevant stat for an up and coming staff.

          • moonraker45 5 years ago

            I agree that the jays dont have a bonafide ace, theres no CC, no hernandez, no doc..But having an ace doesn’t equate to success, just ask the mariners who started with lee and king felix, or ask the jays fan who have sat by and watched doc be a master for a decade while never finishing higher then 3rd.A balanced rotation is whats necessary to achieve success.. saying the jays have a bunch of 3/4 starters is a massive under appreciation of the talent.Point and Case2009- Doc- 17 wins, Romero-13, Tallet 7, Richmond 8, Rzep 2 = 75 wins (total)2010- Romero-14, Marcum- 13, Cecil -15, Morrow-10, Rzep 4 = 85 wins.So yes we lost a bonafide ace, but the different is our 3rd, 4th and 5th starters had improved big time

          • gursk1989 5 years ago

            Just saying, I think the Jays were second in 2005

          • moonraker45 5 years ago

            2006, but they were only 1 game up on boston and 8 games back of the wild card. . not exactly anything to hang your hat on. but i stand corrected.

          • moonraker45 5 years ago

            2006, but they were only 1 game up on boston and 8 games back of the wild card. . not exactly anything to hang your hat on. but i stand corrected.

        • coachofall 5 years ago

          Just looked it up their SP was ranked 21 in MLB this year…..that equates to a lot of above avg not top of the rotation arms

          • Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

            So you’ve never watched the Jays play?

          • coachofall 5 years ago

            I watch everyone play. Its one thing to watch and ignore statistical facts and watch and then compare to the true numbers. Need to do both

          • Sniderlover 5 years ago

            Typical… Jays are always underrated.

            Weren’t some geniuses predicting Jays to be like in the bottom 5th of the league and finish worst in the division?

          • Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

            Yeah. Their system is overrated though

          • Sniderlover 5 years ago

            Think so?

            Hmm… the only really hyped prospect Jays have is Drabek, Stewart (who I guess has become overrated when AA said he is as good as Drabek), and probably Perez.

            Our farm was bottom 10 so I don’t really see how it’s overrated. I’d say Stewart might be the only one but he does have the stuff to become as good as Drabek or he could be a reliever if he can’t add an average 3rd pitch.

            I don’t know anyone else who would be overrated, perhaps Gose? But none of us considers him a top prospect or really anywhere near that.

          • I can’t believe how people could be so dumb as to predict a 4th place team to finish 5th! The humanity…

          • moonraker45 5 years ago

            big difference between 62 wins then 85

          • Sniderlover 5 years ago

            lolololololololol…. big difference between finishing bottom 5 and what we actually finished, which was 4th in the division.

            Nice try though.

          • Sniderlover 5 years ago

            I’m guessing that has nothing to do whatsoever with the fact Jays used Tallet (season ERA was 6+), Rzep who was well crap this season or the fact we had Dana freaking Eveland.Basically, the #5 starters crapped the bed unbelievably hard which is why they are ranked 21. 1-4, our starters are at worst, top 15, not to mention they are very young and guys like Morrow struggled a lot early on until he worked with the pitching coach to change his delivery and then he pretty much pitched like an ace for the rest of the season.

            EDIT: Haha, how did I forget Litsch and Mills? They sucked as well.

          • coachofall 5 years ago

            I would assume (don’t have the time to do the actualy leg work) that if you were to take the 5th starter out of most teams stats they would all improve. I would assume (again never a good idea) that the effect on the rankings would remain relative

          • Sniderlover 5 years ago

            Most teams have their 5th starter as a guy whose ERA hovers around 6?

      • SplitFingeredPujol 5 years ago

        Marcum and Romero likely have more value than Garza right now. They have less service time and are coming off better seasons. If I’m a GM, I’d prefer either of those guys to Garza, and likely Cecil as well (though in his case service-time would be the clear deciding factor).

        • coachofall 5 years ago

          Marcum and Garza had statistically close season and Garza is two years younger….and has no injury history

          • SplitFingeredPujol 5 years ago

            They were kind of close, but Marcum’s was clearly better. And yes, he has an injury history. But he’s also going to earn a fraction of what Garza will this season. This is why he – in my mind – has more value.

          • moonraker45 5 years ago

            but marcum is cheaper.

          • moonraker45 5 years ago

            I’d take marcum at 800 k as opposed to garza for 3.35 mil any day

        • Sniderlover 5 years ago

          Romero: 2010 season- 3.73 ERA 3.64 FIP 3.75 XFIP (WAR 4.0)
          Marcum: 2010 season – 3.64 ERA 3.74 FIP 3.90 xFIP (3.5)
          Morrow: 2010 season – 4.49 ERA 3.16 FIP 3.63 xFIP (3.7)
          Cecil: 2010 season – 4.22 ERA 4.03 FIP 4.32 xFIP (2.5)

          Garza: 2010 season – 3.91 ERA 4.42 FIP 4.51 XFIP (WAR 1.8)

          Yeah… bunch of 3/4 starters that are all better than Garza.

          • coachofall 5 years ago

            Looks like you are ignoring a 5 year track record of a sub 3.9 era? So your Jays did it one year, there is value in this league in consistency. Lets be rationale..Morrow and Romero aren’t going to be moved, like I said before I do think they will grow into top level SP (though Morrows durability still causes me hesitation). So it comes down to Cecil or Marcum being moved. Cecil is younger than Garza but doesnt have the same track record. Marcum is older than Garza and has Health durabiltiy issues. SO Garza will recquire a greater return than both of those.

          • Sniderlover 5 years ago

            “I personally don’t put the Jays guys (even Marcum) at the same level as Garza. I see a lot of #3/4 starters on the Jays roster with no aces”

            That’s what you said earlier and that’s what I am arguing against. I just proved it to you that pretty much all those 4 guys had a better season than Garza so I fail to see how they are not on the “same level”.

            Marcum durability issues are behind him and he is completely healthy and cheaper than Garza… and well better. Cecil had a solid sophmore season and made some solid improvements and I agree that Garza is worth more than him but you never know… teams wants cheap guys and considering Cecil is a lefty makes him very valuable. He had #2 starting potential and he is under control compared to Garza who is under control for a shorter period of time and is more expensive than Cecil.

          • moonraker45 5 years ago

            sniderlover 1 coachofall 0

          • moonraker45 5 years ago

            sniderlover 1 coachofall 0

          • coachofall 5 years ago

            again, he is older. Not sure what you are arguing anymore. I stand by the fact that the Jays have 3/4 starter type with talent and upside to be more which has yet to be reached. Yout stated what i stated earlier, Garza will cost more becasue he is younger and has a better track record. Would Marcum and Cecil have value in the trade market? Of course they would; Just not as much as Garza (which you agreed to). I have a hard time calling a player better after ONE season. Barry Zito had better numbers than Zack Greinke THIS YEAR, doesnt mean he is better. You must consider track record, and most GM’s do this which is why Marcum and Cecil though they do have value, not the same as an established pitcher wtih a solid track record. I do realize cost matters as well. Marcum is due a significant raise, I personaly would rather have a pitcher with no injury history as opposed to one who struggled to stay healthy for a few years

          • Sniderlover 5 years ago

            Marcum is established and was solid before the surgery and is still solid after that.

            I said Cecil may be the only one that may not have as much value as Garza but even that, it’s arguable considering he is younger, has upside to become a #2 starter and dominated the AL East, he went like 11-1 or something against AL East. He is also cheaper and under control for a longer period of time.

            However, all this is just opinion based. We’ll just agree-to-disagree.

          • Sniderlover 5 years ago

            “I personally don’t put the Jays guys (even Marcum) at the same level as Garza. I see a lot of #3/4 starters on the Jays roster with no aces”

            That’s what you said earlier and that’s what I am arguing against. I just proved it to you that pretty much all those 4 guys had a better season than Garza so I fail to see how they are not on the “same level”.

            Marcum durability issues are behind him and he is completely healthy and cheaper than Garza… and well better. Cecil had a solid sophmore season and made some solid improvements and I agree that Garza is worth more than him but you never know… teams wants cheap guys and considering Cecil is a lefty makes him very valuable. He had #2 starting potential and he is under control compared to Garza who is under control for a shorter period of time and is more expensive than Cecil.

      • Encarnacion's Parrot 5 years ago

        Career FIP/xFIP’s:

        Morrow: 3.97/4.26 [3.16/3.63 in first full season as a starter (2010)]
        Romero: 3.95/3.91
        Marcum: 4.46/4.30

        Garza: 4.26/4.45

        It seems your argument is pointless. Garza and Marcum are very similar in what you’ll get in performance.

        Also, why even compare Morrow to Cain or Lincecum? Those 2 are established, or close to it. Morrow just pitched his first full season as a starter.

      • Encarnacion's Parrot 5 years ago

        Career FIP/xFIP’s:

        Morrow: 3.97/4.26 [3.16/3.63 in first full season as a starter (2010)]
        Romero: 3.95/3.91
        Marcum: 4.46/4.30

        Garza: 4.26/4.45

        It seems your argument is pointless. Garza and Marcum are very similar in what you’ll get in performance.

        Also, why even compare Morrow to Cain or Lincecum? Those 2 are established, or close to it. Morrow just pitched his first full season as a starter.

    • clintonde 5 years ago

      there’s a difference between the quality of the Rays and Jays rotation.. back of the rotation guys you hold onto in case of injury.. middle of the rotation guys you sell high on and trade. IMO

      • coachofall 5 years ago

        case in Point the A’s with Joe Blanton. That being said, I don’t see the Jays offering up anything with enough of an MLB track record to acquire anything of value

    • Actually had Marcum on my list, not sure where he went. May add something.

  2. ze3 5 years ago

    I really hope the Yankees will be on Greinke’s no-trade list. It’s kind of boring to read the same seemingly unending posts of ‘Greinke to the Yankees for Joba, Montero, Betancesabla bla bla’ every time his name pops out.

    Roast me Yankee fans.

    • Why Roast? You’re entitled to your opinion. As a Yankees fan I’m just sitting back and waiting to see some big things happen once the WS is over. Could be a much longer process for some, but would love to see some major shakeup in our organization. Lots of things to consider, many of which are very sensitive.

  3. Lowe’s contract isn’t that bad.

    • Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

      If he played for the Warren Buffett Bombers.

    • $ 15 mil per year for two more seasons for a 4.00 ERA? I wouldn’t sign up for that bargain.

    • not saying it’s good, it’s just not THAT bad to place it first on the list of bad pitcher contracts with the likes of dice-k and AJ. Seems like more of an (dis)honorable mention type of thing.

    • tomymogo 5 years ago

      Lowe’s contract isn’t looking that bad right now, a year ago it was awful. But the way he finished the season was really awesome.

    • csg 5 years ago

      nope, its terrible

    • Derek Lowe’s contract at the moment doesn’t seem so bad. Without Derek Lowe the Braves miss the playoffs… Derek Lowe was great for the Braves this postseason and I think the Braves should hold on to him. However, given his postseason track record and his performance down the stretch he has more value than ever at the moment. This should be an interesting off-season for sure!

    • Derek Lowe’s contract at the moment doesn’t seem so bad. Without Derek Lowe the Braves miss the playoffs… Derek Lowe was great for the Braves this postseason and I think the Braves should hold on to him. However, given his postseason track record and his performance down the stretch he has more value than ever at the moment. This should be an interesting off-season for sure!

  4. derekbellstutu 5 years ago

    I would LOVE to see the Pirates make a run at Matt Garza. The Bucs should offer minor leaguers Jeff Locke, Diego Moreno, Robbie Grossman, and a low-A pitching prospect for Garza and Jason Bartlett. The Rays need major league ready bullpen help, so if they insist on receiving Joel Hanrahan or Evan Meek instead of Moreno in any package for Garza, then the Pirates should ask for Reid Brignac instead of Bartlett. This deal would 1) add the front-line starter the Pirates rotation needs, 2) upgrade the SS position, and 3) reinvigorate the Pirates fan base. I don’t expect the Pirates front office to make moves to excite their fans, but a deal like this would definitely fire them up. Make it happen Neal!

    • I think the Pirates going after a front of the line starter is a great idea, just not at the expense of prospects. The organization is in a state of bringing in a new line of draft and develop guys and shipping them off is not something the Pirates will consider. A guy like Kawakami is more plausible, as the Braves would likely be willing to eat half of his $6.7M contract to get rid of him. It may not be the most popular choice, but an affordable rotation fronter is what the Pirates need for 2011.

      • Kawakami a front of the rotation starter? Pirates are looking gloomy if Kawakami would lead them into 2011

    • Ian_Smell 5 years ago

      I would love for the Pirates to get Garza. I’d like for the Pirates to get Bartlett too, but I’d rather have them sign him if he’s non-tendered then trading for him.

  5. How is Kenshin Kawakami a bad contract?

    • Goldberg365 5 years ago

      An 8-22 record and a 4.32 era for the first 2 years of it first off. I wish they would follow through with the trade back to Japan that was discussed earlier. Lowe isn’t a much better contract, but at least he can manage to win every once in a while.

    • Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

      Since he has done nothing and is getting paid a lot of money.

      • You make it sound like he’s making AJ Burnett type money… Kawakami needs a change of scenery. Braves fans hate him, Bobby lost faith in him, and outsiders only point to his W/L record. He can be a decent 3-4-5 starter depending on the team. The Braves need to eat some of his salary and find a team that will give him a chance or eat some of his salary and find a trade partner in Japan.

      • You make it sound like he’s making AJ Burnett type money… Kawakami needs a change of scenery. Braves fans hate him, Bobby lost faith in him, and outsiders only point to his W/L record. He can be a decent 3-4-5 starter depending on the team. The Braves need to eat some of his salary and find a team that will give him a chance or eat some of his salary and find a trade partner in Japan.

    • inkstainedscribe 5 years ago

      Cox completely lost confidence in KK and stopped using him. The Braves may indeed try to dump him to a team in Japan. If that doesn’t happen, perhaps he gets a chance under Fredi to be the #5 starter in 2011.

  6. woadude 5 years ago

    Its funny they mentioned Dice BB and not Lackey, Lackey’s contract is way worse, 10 million a year for two years? that isnt a bad contract, its a steal if he could just stop walking so many damn batters, Lackey is the equivalent to Burnett’s Deal which arguably was the worse deal up there, not to mention the Sox are going to trade Matsuzaka to Seattle, who would take Burnett? anyone want to take Lackey?

  7. SplitFingeredPujol 5 years ago

    I don’t see Edwin Jackson being traded simply because the Sox won’t get nearly as much back as they gave up to acquire him. I would not at all be shocked to see a Sox starter traded though, and my best guess is Gavin Floyd.

    • The problem with Edwin is that he’s a Boras client and he is certain to test the waters of free agency after the 2011 season. I see the Soxs holding onto Edwin and if they’re fading by the trade deadline, he’s a sure bet to be traded. When he’s on, he is a joy to watch on the mound.

      • SplitFingeredPujol 5 years ago

        Yeah, I could see a deadline deal for sure. An offseason one would surprise me though. The Sox seem to think they fixed some mechanical flaws in Jackson, so I can see them holding onto him with hopes of increasing his value (either for a future trade, or for Type-A status when he walks).

  8. Doesn’t John Lackey qualify under the “Bad Contracts” category yet? Just asking. Or how about Josh Beckett? Okay, they’re not going anywhere, but neither is AJ, nor probably Derek Lowe.
    The Tigers would make Armando Galarraga available if they had a starting pitcher coming back. Add Perfecto to the list of G Men: Greinke, Garza, Guthrie, and might as well throw in Gio Gonzalez just because he plays for Oakland and you know what they do with successful pitchers.

    • SplitFingeredPujol 5 years ago

      I wouldn’t put Galarraga in the same company as the other “G men” you mentioned, as likable as he may be. Also, Gio won’t be traded until his 2nd or 3rd year of arbitration I would expect.

      • In terms of value, no. I agree that Armando is a notch below the others, and not in the conversation with Greinke, but I’m just saying that he can be had, more likely as a player going the other way for a team looking to unload salary. He did with 13 games in 08, and I still think he’s a decent back end of the rotation guy very capable of pitching .500 ball, but he loses his aggressiveness with runners on base.

        Gio would take a big haul to get right now. Beane should consider moving Cahill if another GM gives full value for his ERA numbers this year. That’s unsustainable.

    • There hasn’t been any talk whatsoever about Lackey or Beckett being available, so while their contracts may not be good for the team they aren’t going to be traded. They shouldn’t make it into a list of right-handers potentially available on the trade market.

      • There hasn’t been any talk of trading AJ Burnett, either. Put them all in the same boat. Their teams are just gonna have to eat the contracts and hope for bounce back seasons- which are not out of the question in any case.

    • BentoBox 5 years ago

      Yeah, Lackey’s contract looks pretty bad. He was horrible in the first few months. He did get better as the season progressed.

      June – 3.36 FIP
      July – 3.60 FIP
      August – 3.74 FIP
      September – 2.87 FIP

      • Encarnacion's Parrot 5 years ago

        Looks more like he got better once the rookies came up heh. Solid June though.

  9. moonraker45 5 years ago

    Aj Burnette and 20 million bucks to the Phils for Raul Ibanez….

    • That would have the Phils adding about 17 million to payroll over the next two years, can they really afford to do that? Not to mention creating another hole in the outfield. Even if Werth is retained (how can they keep him and bring in AJ?) and Brown takes over LF it’s not a perfect fit.

      • moonraker45 5 years ago

        The phils would love to dump off ibanez, and keep werth

        the yanks would love to dump aj.. its not a perfect solution but it makes sense

        Phils hope that being around doc can provide some stability and structure to AJ’s preparation again.

        • YanksFanSince78 5 years ago

          Yanks don’t need another OF like Ibanez and then would have to spend several millions more to replace AJ so we might as well keep AJ and hope for a turnaround. I for one don’t see AJ as a total loss. His stuff didn’t get any worse and in many ways his peropherals from 2010 are close to the same as 2010. JUst have to hope that the coaching staff can pinpoint his mechanical problems and that AJ can execute the corrections.

  10. I think that Dice-K’s contract only looks bad from a purely financial perspective when you include the posting fee. Otherwise, I think that he’s still pretty reasonably in terms of cost over the next couple of years.

    • Yeah, $10 million a year for a starter isn’t that bad but you’d expect more from him. With his inconsistencies and the frustration that builds up in the fans and team over him you’d expect more. I’m guess that if he gets dealt it’s not going to be for financial reasons, rather just to get him off the team and move on.

  11. How about Lowe for Zambrano? The Ricketts save $5,875,000, and the Braves probably get better. Being a Cubs fan is terrible right now.

    • moonraker45 5 years ago

      right now? as in, there was a good time?

      • Encarnacion's Parrot 5 years ago

        Over 100 years ago it may have been fantastic.

      • Encarnacion's Parrot 5 years ago

        Over 100 years ago it may have been fantastic.

  12. A Burnett-Zambrano swap? Both need a change of scenery and both are similar pitchers..high K’s and high BB rates..equally bad contracts..something to think about

    • Yankees420 5 years ago

      I think the Yankees would enjoy the fact that they would be out from under Z’s contract after ’12. What do you think the specifics would look like? Just a straight swap + cash to even out the salaries?

      • YanksFanSince78 5 years ago

        That’s an interesting idea but three things.

        a) It would not shock me if AJ came back and had a good year in 2011.
        b) Z, like AJ, has a no-trade clause. AJ can block 10 teams whereas Z has a full no trade. My guess is that he would use that as leverage and demand that the 2013 option of $19.25 mil be picked up as well which balloons the amount due to about $55 mil which is only $6 mil more but forces us to keep him the same amount of years as AJ’s contract.
        c) AJ still has good stuff. He lost about 1 mile off of his FB but it was still around 93-94 on average. Z has lost a little on his FB too but his is down to 90 mph. Z throws more pitches (FB, CT, SF, SL and CB) but his loss in velocity makes his FB, CT and SF all come in around that 88-90mph range. If AJ can master and use his CH more then I think he has a little more to keep guys honest.

  13. B 5 years ago

    I think a lot of what went wring with Zambrano had to do with his manager. Carlos is to blame, but Piniella didn’t make things any better. Quade knows how to get the most out of him. Zambrano was a major reason for the Cubs late season turn around.

  14. jwsox 5 years ago

    with the way sale showed up this season i would be there is at least one of the 5 other starters under contract next season could be moved…peavy untouchable because of his contract and possible injury….buhrle contract…danks is way to good to be moved, floyd has too good of a contract to move for his …jackson could be moved but probably as a package with a minor leaguer or two to get a bat in the line up…..buehrle could be moved but more than likely not

  15. CaseyBlakeDeWitt 5 years ago

    I like the idea of Matsuzaka to the Dodgers

  16. YanksFanSince78 5 years ago

    I don’t want him to be traded and I don’t think he will, but Joba should garner consideration as a RH starter that might be available. He had a much better year if you look at his peripherals.

    2009-2010
    K/9 of 9.67 was up from 7.61
    BB/9 of 2.76 was down from 4.35
    HR/9 of 0.75 was down from 1.20
    BABIP of .342 was up from 3.20 which might indicate he was unlucky
    ERA was 4.40 but his FIP was 2.98 and xFIP was 3.34 (2010 only)
    LD% of 17.2% was down from 21.3%
    GB% of 45.6% went up from 42.9%
    HR/FB of 7.9% was down from 12.4%
    His FB velocity of 94.6 mph went up from 92.5 mph
    His O-Swing% (% of pitches a batter swings at outside the strike zone) of 29% was up from 23%
    His 2nd half ERA of 2.88 was much lower than the 1st half of 5.79 (2010 only)
    His away numbers (ERA-WHIP-KO/BB) of 3.50/1.08/4.63 are much lower than his home of 5.30/1.51/2.69. (2010 only).

    The Yanks would be selling low on him, and again I hope they don’t move him, but he would be a great buy low option for a low budget mid-market team looking for a RH young starter.

  17. CrisE 5 years ago

    If the Twins get into the trade market for a right handed hitter or a front of the rotation guy they’re likely to make a starter available. Most speculation has centered around Slowey, but the whole herd is similar enough that I suppose mostly any of them could be available in the right deal. But Slowey is the only one without a longer term deal, which might reflect how the organization feels about him, and it might make him more appealing to another team.

  18. SplitFingeredPujol 5 years ago

    I’m assuming you mean trade list? If so, this list is for RH starters.

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