Orioles Make Guerrero An Offer

2:48pm: Guerrero is not excited about the Orioles' offer, according to Enrique Rojas of ESPNDeportes.com (on Twitter). The offer was for about $2MM and now the Rangers "return to the race" for Vlad.

12:23pm: The Orioles have made Vladimir Guerrero an offer, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. The team hopes he accepts their offer, which could be for one year and $3-5MM, but they’re prepared for him to turn it down.

Earlier today, ESPN.com's Buster Olney reported that the Orioles could have interest in Guerrero on a one-year deal worth $2MM or so. At this point, Vlad wants a two-year deal, according to Olney (Twitter link). Guerrero is not going to sit out the season, according to Rosenthal, who suggests that a deal with the Orioles makes sense for both sides.

Guerrero’s suitors are limited, as I explained this morning. The Rangers, Angels and Blue Jays are the only logical destinations outside of Baltimore, but Guerrero isn’t a perfect fit for those clubs. Rosenthal reports that Toronto would prefer a DH who can play the field to provide insurance for Adam Lind, who is transitioning to first base.


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174 Comments on "Orioles Make Guerrero An Offer"


Rabbitov
4 years 7 months ago

It is hilarious/awesome that the O’s have a real shot at having Vlad AND Derek Lee next year given that they were prime targets of the team a few years back and both rejected the O’s offers.

Go get him Os.

jwsox
4 years 7 months ago

vlad, derek lee, and brian roberts this is like the 06 all star team..

Chris1G
4 years 7 months ago

Do the Yankees and O’s have a time machine that they’re going to take all these guys back in time and then have some unbeatable teams this year?

Devern Hansack
4 years 7 months ago

How would bringing them back in time in a time machine make them younger? Haven’t you seen back to the future? haha

jwsox
4 years 7 months ago

I think the GM’s for the yankees and O’s have been playing too much MLB 06 the show…back then a combination of Lee and Vlad would alone win me 100 games and a full sweep of the post season…the only competition would be the arod-jeter-tex-posada-mo-sabathia-burnett of the yankees(which oddly enough i pulled out the ol’ ps2 and checked my 06 franchise it was last played in 08 and i had a team not that different from the current yankees team ha

basemonkey
4 years 7 months ago

Good point…and good memory. Yup, thatz exactly what I thought too. Hehehe.

nats2012
4 years 7 months ago

$2 million for Vlad? The guy hit 300, 29hrs, 115rbis, to me thats not a great offer.

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 7 months ago

Vlad is in a unfortunate situation. Teams outlook on the DH are changing, rather use it to rest regulars and no one set players (not all but most). Way too many players that were/still on the market cannot not field very well anymore (Vlad) and age consideration. Also Vlad had a really bad 2nd half. If Manny gets 2 million from TB, Vlad should not expect much.

rzepczynski
4 years 7 months ago

probably the best worst team in a division

vonhayesdays
4 years 7 months ago

i think they finish ahead of the toronto , so maybe their the best worst team but are they the best third place

Bombastic_Dave
4 years 7 months ago

That’s based on Toronto’s current roster. I imagine it will look quite different by opening day, the all-star game and end-of-season.

vonhayesdays
4 years 7 months ago

very true

4 years 7 months ago

There’s no way they’re worse than Toronto. Explain yourself.

vonhayesdays
4 years 7 months ago

Cant wait to see Vlad the impaler in black and orange and not just on halloween

4 years 7 months ago

I have this weird feeling that Vlad has never worn black and orange on Halloween.

MadmanTX
4 years 7 months ago

Take the deal, Vlad. A job’s a job.

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

I take that same approach at the bars on weekends

jwsox
4 years 7 months ago

i dont know toronto is a good young team with a great pitching staff

vonhayesdays
4 years 7 months ago

who makes their pitching staff good, Halladay and Marcum are gone, Drabek is young but could post decent numbers being he is probably fully healed from the tommy john he had a few years ago. I dont follow them all that close but i would call this nothing more than a rebuilding year

bjsguess
4 years 7 months ago

If the deal is for $5m or less the Angels would be fools for not extending an offer. Platoon with Abreu and have a DH option should Hunter, Wells get hurt or Bourjos not hit.

cookmeister
4 years 7 months ago

thought you weren’t an angels fan..

bjsguess
4 years 7 months ago

I’m still pissed. And I have zero confidence that they will handle this situation properly.

jwsox
4 years 7 months ago

what are you talking about they have manny and damon….they are clearly going to win the world series….

vonhayesdays
4 years 7 months ago

maybe they will party like its 2004 again

wickedkevin
4 years 7 months ago

Did anyone see Vlad getting so burned this offseason after a bounce back year?

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

after his slump towards the end of the season, not so much

dodgerblue1983
4 years 7 months ago

The sad part is the O’s would be a serious contender in any other division. You would think a team with Lee, Reynolds, Vlad, Roberts, Markakis, Jones, Scott and Wieters would finish first. Not in this division. That’s how Absurd the A.L. east is

wickedkevin
4 years 7 months ago

And what makes it worse is that they will be in LAST

dodgerblue1983
4 years 7 months ago

maybe. all depends if their young starters can have decent years. the bullpen looks solid and they can hit.

4 years 7 months ago

I think TB might finish last, honestly. They lost their bullpen, they lost Crawford, they lost Pena, they traded Garza. No way Manny and Damon make up for those losses.

wickedkevin
4 years 7 months ago

I think their SP is too good. I also think Manny and Damon can come close enough to Pena and Crawford, in fact they will most likely raise the team’s AVG. And yes, their bullpen is destroyed.

dodgerblue1983
4 years 7 months ago

Manny isn’t manny anymore. Take it from a Dodger fan. He wasn’t the same after his suspension. The bat speed wasn’t their and the power wasn’t their

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

umm Hellickson anyone?? the guy is the highest rated pitching prospect

and just for good measure, decided to add a cutter this off season

Ladies and Gentleman, your 2011 AL ROY

4 years 7 months ago

Bold claim.

Though you might be right.

Catztradamus
4 years 7 months ago

The only way the Rays finish last is if you have five teams over 500. which I think would be a first. it could happen, though, but Baltimore is gonna have to win more 1 run games than they lose, and I don’t think they have the pitching to do that.

ballmich
4 years 7 months ago

Let’s be fair. You’ve listed some veterans in decline who have spent some time on the DL in recent years, and some young guys that haven’t played up to their potential. Most teams have guys like that.

Baltimore was 2nd to last in the AL in team ERA and runs scored per game in 2010. They’ve done some work this winter, but not likely enough to compete in most divisions. Perhaps in a year or two.

niched
4 years 7 months ago

Baltimore was two different teams last year. Before Buck and after Buck. You shouldn’t overly judge the O’s by their craptastic play under Trembley.

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 7 months ago

When Cito took over the Jays in the middle of the 2008 season, they had an above .500 from that point until the end of the season. In 2009, however, they finished 12 games under .500.

My point is don’t get caught up in small sample sizes.

niched
4 years 7 months ago

Big differences in the two situations.

The Blue Jays were worse in 2009 than 2008 mainly because they lost key players (AJ Burnett and Gregg Zaun) and didn’t add anyone of note (except Encarnacion at the deadline). Also the Jays were without Marcum, Janssen and McGowan for much of the season.

But the Orioles since last season have added JJ Hardy, Mark Reynolds and Derrek Lee, and they haven’t lost any key players (except maybe David Hernandez). Plus their young pitching improved so much directly because of Showalter’s guidance.

4 years 7 months ago

The O’s also added Kevin Gregg to help replace Hernandez.

TwinsVet
4 years 7 months ago

You just named their 8 best players, and there’s not a single pitcher in that group. Hence the problem.

Rickli
4 years 7 months ago

Brian Matusz, Brad Bergesen, Guthrie, Arrieta, Tillman, and Britton–very talented rotaion

TwinsVet
4 years 7 months ago

They’re all more talented than AAA players, sure. And they’ve all got room for growth. But it’s one of the weaker rotations in any division, not just the AL East.

Sorry, based on their 2010 numbers, and their projected 2011 numbers, they’re just not that good. Maybe they will be in 2012-2014.

4 years 7 months ago

Guthrie and Matusz should be quite good.

The rest are up in the air.

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 7 months ago

Your just use to watching so many bad teams the NL West produced over the years

dodgerblue1983
4 years 7 months ago

Yeah your right. Hey wait didnt the san francisco giants win the world series last year? dont they play in the nl west?

4 years 7 months ago

Of course he wants a multi-year deal. By the end of the 2011 season he probably won’t be able to walk. The 2012 contract is free money.

Slopeboy
4 years 7 months ago

Don’t really see the O’s escaping the AL East cellar, but they’re going to make the year a lot of fun and very interesting. With the improved team and coaching staff, the O’s are going to make an impact in the final standings. Can’t wait for the season to start.

TwinsVet
4 years 7 months ago

I’d love to see them play “wildcard spoilers”. Steal enough games from Bos/NYY, that the wildcard team comes out of the AL Central…

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

pretty likely given the Central’s revamp

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 7 months ago

Obviously anything can happen this upcoming season, but may disagree with you on wildcard coming out of the AL Central. It has a really good chance to come out of the West with Texas and Oakland duking it out. Oakland has really good pitching and a better offense, and Texas not as rich on the pitching, but sure in hell can hit with the best.

TwinsVet
4 years 7 months ago

I agree oakland is a dark horse. But anaheim and seattle are tougher than kc and cle. I think it comes out of the central by virtue of easiest last-place teams within the division.

4 years 7 months ago

They’re easily better than the Blue Jays are not that far behind the Rays and Yankees.

vonhayesdays
4 years 7 months ago

i got a solution , maybe bud can move them to the AL West were they are sure to dominate !

ea19
4 years 7 months ago

Just the Geography of it would be messed up….think about all of the traveling they would have to do. I know you are probably joking, but not a chance!

vonhayesdays
4 years 7 months ago

oh yeah just a joke, it would take some kinda scheduling miracle and time travel , and they probably wouldnt dominate their either

4 years 7 months ago

A second wild card team and a balanced schedule would pretty much take care of any disadvantages the Orioles have by being in the AL East.

I think it’s absurd that the schedule is not balanced.

vonhayesdays
4 years 7 months ago

Indeed a second wild card might be cool. have them play each other in say a best of three and then go on to play the rest as usual.

basemonkey
4 years 7 months ago

This is the first season in a while that the Os have really addressed their needs in earnest. In years past, they were in “Wait for the Kids” mode so much, that they were signing stopgaps left and right. Now, they have a decent majorleague team, just enough that you couldn’t make the same excuses for the young players if they fail (i.e. If only Young Pitcher X had enough bullpen or offense supporting him, If only Young Position Player X was protected with a legit majorleaguer, if, if, etc..).

It’s “Put Up or Shut Up” time for the young guys.

dodgerblue1983
4 years 7 months ago

i suspect Buck Showalter will coach em up

4 years 7 months ago

Orioles make a run for the wild card if pitching stays healthy and they sign another vet starter.

JaysFTW
4 years 7 months ago

No

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

Maybe if the MLB adapts the NBA playoff formula

dodgerblue1983
4 years 7 months ago

Maybe in a year or two yes. But remember Buck Showalter came in and lit a fire under that team as he did with the rangers and dbacks. Once Buck came in last year, the O’s had the best record in the A.L. east. The talent is there. They just have to produce

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

It’s easy to play when there’s no pressure and you’re already 20 games back of a playoff spot in July

vonhayesdays
4 years 7 months ago

and you know what thats like

4 years 7 months ago

This makes no sense.
So the Yankees, Rays, Red Sox were all at a disadvantage to the Orioles because they had the stress of possibly making the playoffs?

4 years 7 months ago

Don’t laugh at me for stating that signing Vlad with the other new players signed will shake up the east.It’s about time management made some gutsy moves,fans of B-more suffered enough.Remember how Showalter put fire underneath these players,this is gonna be a very interesting season.

4 years 7 months ago

Let’s wait until the Orioles actually sign Guerrero before we get all excited. He did, after all, spurn them a few years ago.

If I’m Vlad, and I’m looking at the Orioles, I know I’m going to be the full-time DH there. I’m not going to be sharing time in Toronto, or be a backup in Texas or L.A. I know I’m going to batting cleanup behind Roberts, Markakis and Lee. That’s a lot of “ducks on the pond” for me to drive in. I’ll have Luke Scott and Mark Reynolds, two bonafide power hitters, hitting behind me so I know I’ll be protected. The manager, Buck Showalter, is a proven guy with a knack for game management. The bullpen is solid, especially if they sign Joe Beimel to match up against lefties (they already have Mike Gonzalez). The starting rotation is incredibly young, but very talented. As a team, their ERA after Buck Showalter was 3.54, earned against AL East teams primarily. If they even approach that mark this year, they are going to be in the race. Brian Matusz is on the cusp of becoming this teams’ ace. You also know that you’re going to be facing some of the best teams in baseball on a nightly basis.

I hope that Vlad comes to Baltimore. He makes their lineup pretty darn dangerous, and they will definitely make some noise in the AL East. Remember, they went 34-23 against mostly AL East teams after Buck got there last year. And that was without Derrek Lee, JJ Hardy, Mark Reynolds, Vlad Guerrero, and Kevin Gregg.

popular_mechanics_for_pitchers
4 years 7 months ago

Their lineup is vastly improved but has “band aid” all over it.

Daniel Fenton
4 years 7 months ago

I love how people who don’t know anything about what is going on with the Toronto Blue Jays state their opinions on the Jays pitching staff, where they will finish in the standings, etc. Based on what? Romero, Morrow and Cecil are one of the best young 1-2-3 combos in the majors…Travis Snider and JP Arencibia are two of the best young hitters. Arencibia, Brett Lawrie and Kyle Drabek are also in the top 50 prospects. We’re not going out and signing 38 year old players past their prime like teams like Tampa are. The O’s have improved and they might have a shot at overtaking the Jays…but it is premature to dismiss the Jays based on nothing more than an uneducated opinion.

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

bang on…

except.. hard to criticize any of the moves the Rays made this year..

Spent very little money while helping to alleviate some of the lost performance from players who left, combined with the fact that they have a top 2 farm system with a crap load of picks coming.. so hard to fault them for anything really

vonhayesdays
4 years 7 months ago

nobody was dismissing your team , its a long season and maybe those young legs will out pace the older teams who knows

4 years 7 months ago

The Blue Jays have a nice team, Daniel. The problem, of course, is that the Rays and Orioles have even nicer teams.

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

lol how do the Orioles have a nicer team exactly??

I’m not sure who will end up in last or 4th.. most of it will depend on outcomes of individual players (roberts, bautista, guthrie, morrow)

but to say the Orioles are flat out nicer is insane.. They have no pitching depth, their bullpen looks to be one of the worst in the league.

With the strong offenses of the AL east, they added very little help in terms of preventing runs. They will score more runs though.

danumd87
4 years 7 months ago

You can’t help but laugh at posts like this. They start out reasonable but then you read “their bullpen looks to be one of the worst in the league” and you just can’t help but smile and stop reading. There is no possible argument to be made that a bullpen of Greg, Koji, Johnson, Gonzalez, Berken, etc will be anywhere near the basement. While there’s no shut down closer, the pen will be legit 1-7. The pen is well balanced and has 5 guys who have been SUCCESSFUL as closers in the past. Not just that they were given the job, but they performed admirably there. The O’s pen may not be on par with the Red Sox, but it would be a shock to any informed baseball fan to see them be even as bad as league average. But nice try their lunchbox. Your post was amusing, if nothing else.

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

ouch your complete biased optimism just smacked me right in the face!!

Enjoy Kevin Gregg, I’ll be willing to bet you that within the first month of the season you’ll be on here spazzing with your other orioles fans about how terrible he is and what a bad signing it was..

Then you go on to name Gonzalez and Berken as sure things? Umm okay, maybe a trip to fangraphs is in order for you..

Koji and Johnson I’ll give you, but there isn’t enough depth to compensate how much work the Orioles bullpen stands to get this year.. If you think Jeremy Accardo is going to give you 60 quality innings, you’re in for a real treat. .

HerbertAnchovy
4 years 7 months ago

I’m not quite sure in which alternate reality The Orioles have a better team than The Jays.

bmore321
4 years 7 months ago

jays were not that great and if bautista repeats id be shocked

HerbertAnchovy
4 years 7 months ago

You’re joking, right? The Jays were 85-77. The Orioles were 66-96. I’d say The Jays were good, especially considering it was supposed to be a down year and people counted them out completly after trading Halladay.

Their pitching is superior to The O’s, and their bullpen will be greatly improved this year. Even if Bautista doesn’t repeat, the nucleus of the team is better than The O’s at evey position.

Catztradamus
4 years 7 months ago

The AL east is going to be sick this year. That said, I’m going o0n record to state that it’s going to be tough for an AL east team to get the WC berth, solely based on having to play 72 of their games against the other four teams in the division. Baltimore was 24-48 against the AL east last year. If they can somehow play 500 ball within the division, It gets a lot closer for the WC than you think.

In case anyone was wondering, btw, the records in the AL EAST inside the division last year:

Tampa 42-30
Toronto 39-33
NY 38-34
Boston 37-35
Baltimore 24-48

Baltimore lost 27 of those games before the break, and 21 after, not a big swing.

but they were 7-11 against Tampa, 3-15 against Toronto, 9-9 against Boston, and 5-13 against NY.

Based on last years records and splits, etc… If the Orioles area better team, and the yankees go 9-9 against them, they win the wild card by a GAME.

Its gonna be a closer division than anyone thinks, and I doubt the Wild card comes out, if Baltimore gets better.

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

Jays were 24-30 vs the AL east minus baltimore

I’d imagine that 15-3 record vs orioles will be a lot more even this year