Yankees Reach Agreement With Freddy Garcia

The Yankees have agreed to sign Freddy Garcia to a minor league contract, reports ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick (Twitter link).  The deal will pay Garcia $1.5MM if he makes the Major League roster, and the total value of the contract could be worth $5.1MM if Garcia reaches all his start-based incentive plateaus, up to 30 starts.  Garcia is represented by Peter Greenberg.

Garcia, 35, expressed his preference to pitch for the Yankees earlier this week, saying it would be "an inspiration" to pitch in the pressurized environments of both New York and the AL East.  The Mets, Orioles and White Sox all showed some degree of interest in Garcia this winter, though Garcia ruled out a return to Chicago earlier today.

The veteran right-hander posted a 4.64 ERA, 1.98 K/BB ratio and a 40.7% ground ball rate in 28 starts with the White Sox last season.  Garcia threw 157 Major League innings in 2010 — he pitched in just 129 innings combined over the prior three seasons due to nagging shoulder injuries.

Garcia joins the likes of Bartolo Colon, Ivan Nova, Andrew Brackman, Sergio Mitre and even Mark Prior in the battle for the final two starting spots in the Yankee rotation.  This competition could be limited to just the number five spot, of course, should Andy Pettitte announce his return.


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285 Comments on "Yankees Reach Agreement With Freddy Garcia"


Fangaffes
4 years 6 months ago

In before some moron says this will put the Yankees over the top.

Fangaffes
4 years 6 months ago

In before some fool says this will put the Yankees over the top.

PJaysW
4 years 6 months ago

Liek thank gawd they got this here move done signed here. I wuz startin’ to get worry som’n fierce they wuldnt sign no none impact arms this here offseason righ here

InLeylandWeTrust
4 years 6 months ago

Yeah!! What he said!

4 years 6 months ago

I hate to break this to y’all, but the Yanks are going to be just fine this year.

BoomDizzle
4 years 6 months ago

Will they win the World Series? Because that is all that counts for the Yankees.

glook2
4 years 6 months ago

If you ain’t first, you’re last.

MFH
4 years 6 months ago

I can’t wait to see everyone we signed not play in the majors at all this season.

Gregory
4 years 6 months ago

No chance he makes the team.. Ivan Nova is likely ahead of him on depth charts.

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

Nova is in the rotation regardless. The battle is basically for the 5th spot.

4 years 6 months ago

Minor league deal…no risk high reward

0bsessions
4 years 6 months ago

He has a career 109 ERA+, could you elaborate on where the high reward is? Low risk/high reward is Justin Duchscherer to the O’s on cheap money. This is “invite as many people to ST as possible and hope one of them doesn’t stink up the joint.”

Don’t get me wrong, the risk is minimal (That risk being he could cost them a game or two if he makes the team), but Garcia hasn’t pitched 200+ innings since 2006, and that was at pretty mediocre numbers. There is no “high reward” in this situation.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 6 months ago

This IS a low risk/high reward signing. The level of reward and expectations vary depending on the player and the risk. You reall are arguing semantics.

Case 1= Brandon Webb, signed @ $3 mil guaranteed on 25 man roster has one level of expectation based on his past.

Case 2= Garcia was signed to a minor lge contract that will guarantee him $1.5 mil if he made the ream. WHat’s expected of him? No more than what he did last year. 150 IP and a 4.75 FIP or lower.

Funny that you mention Garcia hasn’t pitched 200 IP since 2006 and use Duchscherer as an example of a low risk/high reqrd signing. He hasn’tpitched 30 inning TOTAL since……2008. He has never pitched more than 145 innings in his entire carerr. He IS a low risk/high reward signing as well but I think you should expect less from him as a starter than you would from Garcia.

0bsessions
4 years 6 months ago

I’m sorry if this seems like semantics, but if I buy a powerball ticket for a buck and the jackpot is twenty bucks, it’d nice and all to hit that, but it’s still not high reward, regardless of where my expectations have been set.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 6 months ago

Most investors would consider a 200% return in an investment a great deal. You have to get over the idea that a minor lge signing isn’t a high reward unless they post above average production.

Baseball signings are a poor comparison to a lottery pick. Most GMs have reasonable expectations and know what a player’s best case and worst case scenarios are probably going to be. If Garcia put up a year similar to that in 2010 w/ 150 IP and a 4.50 to 4.75 FIP then chances are he has met Cashman’s highest expectations.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 6 months ago

Meant 2,000% return.

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

I’ll say medium reward at best

Alvaro
4 years 6 months ago

cant go wrong with minor league contracts

DarkBob
4 years 6 months ago

What? Minor League

4 years 6 months ago

Good for him, he probably will make a decent amount of money if he breaks camp, which I can’t imagine he won’t. Doubt he will be able to find success in AL East though, he was barely average in the weaker AL Central.

Gregory
4 years 6 months ago

Freddy Garcia won’t make it.. he gave up 23 long balls in Chicago last year, and hasn’t been sharp since 2006.

4 years 6 months ago

I’d like to see the difference of home runs given up at Yankee Stadium compared to the Cell

jwsox
4 years 6 months ago

probably depends on if a righty or lefty is batting…because if the hitters have right field as their pull field i bet a ton more…yea right in the cell is short but they dont have that wind tunnel that is in yankee stadium

YanksFanSince78
4 years 6 months ago

Cell ranked #1 (1.5) in HR/G and NYS was #3 (1.4)

start_wearing_purple
4 years 6 months ago

Damn, I was hoping to see Mitre out every 5th day.

East Coast Bias
4 years 6 months ago

Good for him. He’s been lobbying for the Yankees to sign him.

rapt00r
4 years 6 months ago

I’m disappointed he signed a minor league deal instead of returning to the White Sox where he probably would have pitched.

jwsox
4 years 6 months ago

for about 3 weeks then either gone to the pen or gotten DFA’d they sox dont need someone like freddy they need an emergency guy or a AAA guy that can keep them in games untill peavy comes back then send the dude down

RedSox69
4 years 6 months ago

The Sox tried the so called reclaim projects for the last 3 years and you’ll all seen what that got them…good luck with colon and Garcia…

hrbomber1113
4 years 6 months ago

ya…the only difference is you guys signed Smoltz Penny to $10.5MM in guaranteed money and a major league deal. These guys both got minor league deals and are Pettitte insurance. If Andy doesn’t come back, they’ll trade for a starter after a few months. With the early season schedule and all the off days the 5th starter doesn’t even pitch that much. Sorry you have no comprehension of minor league deals.

4 years 6 months ago

chill dude, the guy includes an obvious dig at his own team and you attack him? just chill

hrbomber1113
4 years 6 months ago

the guy makes a snarky comment about Colon and Garcia like the Yankees were counting on them like the Red Sox were counting on Penny Smoltz. The situations are completely different. If you’re going to try and make of a team you should at least know wtf you’re talking about.

RahZid
4 years 6 months ago

for the record, the Sox were only counting on Penny/Smoltz to be their number 5 when they were signed. I agree the money is completely different and I know where you’re coming from, but you can’t re-write history regarding the injuries to the staff that forced penny and smoltz into more prominent roles either.

4 years 6 months ago

Hey, he can rewrite history in his mind if he wants. He’ll be just as wrong.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 6 months ago

Well the Yanks are only looking at Garcia and Colon as #5 options as well so what’s the difference? Nova might be listed as a #4 just because of his rookie status and thus having little to judge by but I think they expect more out of Nova than they do out of Garcia or Colon. In reality, the rotation in terms of best to worst is probably CC-Hughes-AJ-Nova-Garcia/Colon

dan simons
4 years 6 months ago

The difference, is in the amount of money they’re making. Low risk; high reward.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

more like low risk , low reward

RahZid
4 years 6 months ago

That’s my point. He said that the Sox were relying on Penny/Smoltz more than the Yankees are relying on Colon/Garcia.

4 years 6 months ago

No, they’re counting on *FOUR* of Hughes, Burnett, Mitre, Nova, Garcia, Prior, Colon, a pitcher in the Phillies rotatoin and a 38 year old who’s sipping Arnold Palmers on his porch in Texas to be average to above average starters in the AL East. Good luck with all that.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 6 months ago

Why is every Phillie fan trying to push Blanton off on us?

Guest
4 years 6 months ago

Because he owns a lousy contract and they are hoping that the Yankees are desperate enough to take on that horrific salary because the Yanks appear to be desperate……

metsman
4 years 6 months ago

because the rest of baseball knows you’ll pay twice as much as he’s worth because he’d be a numbers 2 on your staff.

moustacheman
4 years 6 months ago

Really this is coming from a Mets fan? Blanton may be a #2 on the Mets, but he would barely be an upgrade over Mitre in the Yanks rotation! And this is a weak rotation for the yanks!

metsman
4 years 6 months ago

How about no; The Mets had a better rotation ERA last year, so while your knee jerk reaction to talk down about the Mets is typical, you’re just plain wrong.
Sorry despite what most Yankee fans think, your team isn’t perfect and the Mets aren’t the worst team in baseball.

moustacheman
4 years 6 months ago

Except the Mets were in one of the weakest divisions in baseball, and the Yanks are in the Strongest. I don’t think any team would take the Mets rotation over the Yanks, even with the Yanks being in shambles. The Mets aren’t even contenders this year, and won’t be for quite some time, so please, YOU need to get off your high horse on one of the worst put together teams in the MLB.

metsman
4 years 6 months ago

high horse, easy their buddy; You’re the one who brought up the Mets, presumabley because of my screen name, but this is a Yankee post and as everyone knows the almighty Yankees are held to a higher standard, so it’s truely a waste of time comparing them to the lowely Mets.

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

“so it’s truely a waste of time comparing them to the lowely Mets.”. With you saying that Yourself, then what’s the point of Mets fans saying “Yankees suck”, when their own team does?

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

There is more to a team than a starting rotation.

Here’s something I also know although I’m not sure if you do so I’ll tell you anyway

95-67 > 78-84

metsman
4 years 6 months ago

well, well, looks like someone is living in the past to try and escape the future, and I understand it’s okay, good luck with that.

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

well, well, looks like someone hasn’t looked at the recent farm system rankings and has seen his favorite team, the mets have one of the worst farm systems in all of baseball and has seen probably his most hated team, the yankees have one of the tops farm systems in all of baseball, and i understand it’s okay, good luck with that.

Fangaffes
4 years 6 months ago

Don’t exaggerate. He’d be #3.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 6 months ago

A number 2? Ahead of Hughes? Right…….In the AL East I would expect him to pitch no better than AJ.

The fact that he’s still on the Phillies makes me EXCEPTIONALLY happy that he won’t be a part of the Yanks rotation, more so because of the ridiculous trade proposals most Phillies fans have floated.

cpr1981
4 years 6 months ago

Prior was signed to pitch out of the pen…for what it’s worth.

gunsnascar
4 years 6 months ago

well is bartolo colon signed and now its freddy garcia.
between the 2 of them they may make a terrible 5th starter in the AL east
might as well resign chad gaudin while they are at it

start_wearing_purple
4 years 6 months ago

Actually Garcia made a decent #5 starter last year. And when you consider it’ll move Mitre out of the rotation it makes a decent signing.

gunsnascar
4 years 6 months ago

as stated previously he’s moving from the AL central aka 1 of the weaker divisions in baseball to the AL east aka the strongest division in baseball.
maybe he could work out atleast the def behind him is better in NY

hrbomber1113
4 years 6 months ago

He is in the AL East and that will hurt, but the Rays offense will be worse and he doesn’t have to face the best offense in baseball. If Andy doesn’t come back he’ll be able to eat some innings until a trade is made.

$1545094
4 years 6 months ago

but he will have to face the best offense in baseball, now more often.. when he faces the Boston Red Sox. now that they have Crawford and Gonzalez. along with full seasons from Ellsbury and Pedroia.

jjs91
4 years 6 months ago

full season from ellsbury sounds scary, the yankees still have the best offense in baseball.

RahZid
4 years 6 months ago

And a full season from Youk

glook2
4 years 6 months ago

And full seasons from Beltre and Martinez…

RahZid
4 years 6 months ago

You really think that an extra half season from each of Pedroia and Youk plus the additions of AGON and Crawford don’t more than make up for a full season of Beltre and 3/4 season from VMart (broken thumb)? You’re delusional, please seek help.

glook2
4 years 6 months ago

I will not argue that the potential to put up more runs is not there. However, injuries are an enormous and unpredictable factor, and it seems every Red Sox is coming off of one. Could they all come back healthy and put up a monster, record breaking year? Absolutely. Could a few get injured and have a similar statistical team season as last year. Absolutely.

And, to address my VMart and Beltre commment. I will convert to a Sox fan they can manage 100 rbi and a .300 average out of the C spot this year in a full season. And Youk is a wash at 3b with Beltre’s career year last year (offensively and defensively)

RahZid
4 years 6 months ago

I would actually say that Youk is a slight downgrade at 3B from last year, but AGON is an improvement at 1B. Here’s the problem with your argument though, you’re looking at the C position in a vacuum, you say how it is weaker (which it is) so the offense is worse. You completely overlook the gains in LF and CF. It isn’t all about the long ball in boston anymore. There may be a slight drop in HR’s, but SB’s will go through the roof with a full season of Ells and Crawford.

Also, do you know for certain that Beltre/VMart will be healthy this year? If not, please tell me how the injury argument is relevant here, all teams face this same uncertainty, to claim that other players could prevent it is absurd. Yes many Red Sox are coming off of injury, which is why there is so much potential for an upgrade, they are all healthy right now (aside from AGon and his shoulder, although he is throwing again).

ugotrpk3113
4 years 6 months ago

Batting practice pitcher?

Only thing that makes sense to me.

4 years 6 months ago

People don’t seem to understand that if you have a #5 starter with an ERA around 5.00 then you are better off than 30 other teams.

ugotrpk3113
4 years 6 months ago

Tell that to Yankee fans (or any competitive team really)

$1529282
4 years 6 months ago

There’s 31 teams in baseball?

gunsnascar
4 years 6 months ago

30 other teams and the yankee’s make 31 fella

4 years 6 months ago

Mr Brainiac checks in! No kidding. There are 32 teams. ‘Better than 30 other teams’ means that there is one team better off. It’s pretty simple math really. Glad to see that you made it through 2nd grade.

gunsnascar
4 years 6 months ago

ok fella dont get your shorts in a knot

James Stevens
4 years 6 months ago

WOW. 30 teams people. Not 31 and not 32.

gunsnascar
4 years 6 months ago

I was wondering who the 31st and 32nd team was after I counted the team rumors twice.

4 years 6 months ago

They still think the Expos are around.

kdawg89
4 years 6 months ago

And the St. Louis Browns….

AJCBE
4 years 6 months ago

That…is…embarrassing.

Guest
4 years 6 months ago

You’re not better off than “30 other teams” when you’re paying $16.5MM to your #3 starter, who is also likely to post an ERA around 5.00, and still don’t know who your #4 or 5 definitely is.

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

So rotation orders should be based on a players salary? If that’s the case, the Red Sox rotation would be almost like going Worst to First.

Last I also saw, the Giants highest paid pitcher (and player) was not even in the playoffs.

Guest
4 years 6 months ago

Way to miss my point by a mile.

If I thought orders should be based on salary, I would have called Burnett the #2.

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

So then why are you using salary to determine how strong/weak a rotation is?

“You’re not better off than “30 other teams” when you’re paying $16.5MM to your #3 starter,”

Guest
4 years 6 months ago

You’re taking things almost entirely out of context.

My point was that it’s embarrassing for a team with seemingly unlimited resources to have AJ Burnett as their 3rd starter, and have Freddy Garcia and Bartolo Colon battling with 2 rookies for the 4 and 5 spots.

I only noted his salary because it makes the situation seem even more embarrassing for them than it already is.

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

Well I certainly don’t disagree with you there. But hey, Red Sox are paying Lackey and Beckett about the same amount and they prob will get ERA’s in the high 4’s from them too. Although I’d easily take either one over Burnett. But I’d also probably put CC and maybe even Hughes ahead of them in the Yankees rotation as is.

Nontheless, I’ll agree with your main point and say there is no way it’s “stacked”. Whoever said that should re-think that.

Guest
4 years 6 months ago

Beyond Lester and Buchholz, I’m not incredibly high on the Red Sox rotation, either. Especially for what they’re paying Lackey, Beckett and Matsuzaka.

But I’d VERY easily take their rotation over the Yankees. Sabathia’s an outstanding Ace, but beyond that I’d be extremely worried unless I knew Pettitte was definitely coming back, and/or was confident that Burnett could get back to his 2008 form.

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

Oh without question it’s better than the Yankees easily, but I think people really people really overrated it. It is the same as last year and it put up average numbers in the AL. The only guys I’d trust for sure are Lester and Buchholz, all the rest are ?’s.

But yes I agree easily, I’d take it over the Yankees (right now that is lol). Of course all of us would have taken the Phillies rotation in the playoffs last year too.

0bsessions
4 years 6 months ago

“It is the same as last year and it put up average numbers in the AL.”

A year in which two of them were injured for a couple months, one of them was in the AL East for the first time and all of them were stuck pitching in front of a hastily cobbled defense consisting of standouts like Marco Scutaro’s busted right shoulder, Bill Hall, Darnell MacDonald, Mike Lowell with no hip and out of position and Daniel Nava.

First off, as I’ve pointed out many times before, Lackey actually had a pretty good second half. He put up an ERA under four and a WHIP around 1.2 in said second half and all of his peripherals improved. He had an awful first half, which one could chalk up to an adjustment period, but he was actually extremely reliable in the second. All told, I think he had 18 quality starts last year. He also led the team in IP.

Beckett, as noted, was hurt. His only two problems on his own were inflated walk and home run problems (Both the second worst of his career). In addition to his own problems, though, he had a career high BABIP of .338. That is borderline unsustainable. His FIP was a very poor 4.54, so the jury’s out. That said, he’s not even 31 yet, odds are, he’ll bounce back.

Matsuzaka. Heck, who knows with him. His BABIP was actually very low, but his FIP wasn’t awful (Just north of 4). I think Beckett and Lackey will have good seasons, him, I’m not even going to venture a guess. He’s either going to post an ERA of 2.90 or 5.10. There is no middle ground to be found.

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

I think there’s a good chance, if healthy, that they can turn it around too, and I certainly do not expect worse numbers from Beckett. Dice-K is a toss up though, you don’t know what to expect.

jjs91
4 years 6 months ago

one bad year for burnett and all of a sudden he’s gonna post an era of around 5. I wonder what that means for beckett who was considerably worse last year.

Guest
4 years 6 months ago

I said it was LIKELY that Burnett would post an ERA around 5.00. I didn’t say that he WOULD. And the Red Sox might not want to count on Beckett being the Beckett of old, either. So it’s a good thing I’m not a Red Sox fan, and couldn’t care less.

But if I WERE a Red Sox fan, I would at least be comfortable knowing they have two studs in Lester and Buccholz, and that Beckett might not have to be much more than a solid #4, anyway.

jjs91
4 years 6 months ago

thats really not how baseball works at all players can have off years and come back fine.

Guest
4 years 6 months ago

And you think I’m not aware of that?

All I’m saying is that I would be very uncomfortable if I were a Yankee fan, and was relying on AJ Burnett to be the number 2 or 3 starter this year. And I’m pretty sure I’m not alone there. MILLIONS of Yankee fans have been freaking out ever since Cliff Lee didn’t accept their offer.

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

“Freaking out” isn’t exactly the right term, but more of “Pissed off” at Pettitte’s delay. Him not returning (yet) is the reason they got Colon and Garcia.

Guest
4 years 6 months ago

I don’t know. I think they might have still signed them, anyway. Or at least have signed other similar pitchers.

Don’t get me wrong. I do like those two signings. There’s no such a thing as a bad minor league deal, in my opinion. You can never have enough depth. And Garcia and Colon have more upside than 75% of the other pitchers signed to minor league deals this winter. I just wouldn’t want to potentially have to count on them, is all.

4 years 6 months ago

With a payroll of over $200 million a year, you’d hope that they could do better than most teams. Unfortunately for the Yankees, it looks like 3-4/5 of their rotation will be making the claim that they’re better than most teams’ 5th starters.

dickylarue
4 years 6 months ago

Oh, the old payroll argument again? Really? That all you got?

The Yankees have one of the best farm systems in the league now. They had more homegrown players on their roster last year than any team in baseball.

Their payroll is high because they keep their star players and reward them instead of the majority of the pathetic league who chicken out when their guys are due real money yet the owners still pocket profits.

kdawg89
4 years 6 months ago

The Rays had more players developed within their system than any other team..But the Yankees do take care of their players for the most part..was shocked they told Jeter to test the market.

4 years 6 months ago

I don’t recall saying anything about the farm system or any of the other jibberish you’re spouting. If you don’t think it’s an embarrassing rotation for a $200 million team, enjoy your delusion.

“they keep their star players and reward them”

I’m sure Jeter and Williams and Pettitte last season might not feel all that love. I think if they didn’t play hardball with Andy last year he’d already be signed.

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

Hope you aren’t a Red Sox or Phillies fan. (I could add the Cubs, Mets, and Angels if I want to also)

4 years 6 months ago

Hope that hope works out for you. And the Yankees.

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

I’ll take that as a Yes that you are.

moustacheman
4 years 6 months ago

You are a pretty ignorant fan… most fans would be happy to field the team that the yanks have year in and year out! It may not be their best team ever, but it still will be extremely competitive. Don’t just throw out the money argument because the yanks are willing to spend. Their owners arent even the richest in the league. No reason to penalize them because they actually spend the money they make instead of pocket it. I’d imagine most fans of any team would be happy if their owners had that mindset.

4 years 6 months ago

Yankee Stadium may be the place to be to get souvenirs every 5 days or so.

metsman
4 years 6 months ago

with that little band box it’s souvenir city, thanks to the NYC tax payer.

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

Pity about the Mets?

metsman
4 years 6 months ago

“pity about the Mets?” funny I thought this post was about the Yankees and their big offseason acquisition…
whats the matter, big Yankee fan can’t handle a little disapointment without deflecting it on to the Mets? now THAT is a pity

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

No it’s just funny to see a fan of a bad team such as the Mets make fun of a better team like the Yankees. It’s like a Knick fan making fun of the Lakers.

We just get kicks out of Met fans of all fans who say “Yankees suck they are garbage” etc.

deadsy
4 years 6 months ago

How’s the CITI MORGUE doing? That’s a true waste of NYC tax revenue!

Bernaldo
4 years 6 months ago

Three months ago the Yankees seemed pretty sure that they would add Cliff Lee to the rotation and have the best 1-2 starting tandem in the AL. Ninety days later, they have to settle for a couple of broken down pitchers well past their prime. The Yankee offense will have to produce big time when either of those guys take the mound – if they ever do.

flickadave
4 years 6 months ago

I hope that I’m wrong but I have a feeling that this is going to be a decent signing for the Yankees. It’s got to be better than Colon.

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

So the Yankees basically have picked up 2 pitchers who in their last 4 seasons (so basically 8 seasons total) have pitched 542 innings. An average of 271 innings each and 67.75 innings per year.

Plan B certainly has worked for Cashman!

I guess John Maine is next right?

4 years 6 months ago

That’s such a stupid assessment, because last time I checked Colon had been out of the league 2-4 years. With thta kind of talk, you must be a mets or red sox fan.

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

O Rly?

jwsox
4 years 6 months ago

what do you want out of your 5th starter? I’m assuming you’re a yankees fan so you probably want 16+ wins a sub 3.00 E.R.A and a w.h.i.p right around 1.30 with a 9+k/9 and a 3-bb/9 right? throw in a no hitter and a perfect game all in one season. Thats what you expect out of your 5th starter….well thats not baseball and for every other than other than the phillies whos #5 is a mid rotation guy on almost every other team. a typical 5th starter is in there to save the pen eat innings typically throw 150 + innings double digit wins is nice an era right around era around 4 low bb/9 decent k/9(depending on what type of pitcher he is) and a whip rought around 1.5 with a war some where from .5-1…freddy last season pitched 157 innings won 12 games had a close to 2/1 stirke out to walk ration with a 5.1k/9 and a 2.58BB/9 with a 1.32HR/9 line a ERA 4.6 not great not bad either a whip of 1.38 pretty good for the last guy in the rotation and had a WAR of 1.3….i would say as a minor league signing for a 5th guy its great…heck its a damn good major leagu signing

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

The Yankees are a team with a rotation currently of only TWO good starters pitching in a division that’s probably the toughest division in baseball to win. I’m not saying I expected a great pitcher and great numbers out of the number 5 slot, with Colon, Garcia, or whoever. But getting two old veteran injury prone pitchers does not help your team much. The Yankees will have to ask a lot from their number 5 pitcher since they probably will have an innings limit on Nova, and Burnett is probably a 6+ inning pitcher at this point.

Since_77
4 years 6 months ago

“Burnett is probably a 6+ inning pitcher at this point”

You’re really getting me excited! Burnett give me six, Joba/Feliciano in the seventh, Soriano in the eight and Mo in the ninth. I’ll take that!

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

Yeah but then you have Nova and the number 5 pitcher whoever it may be, and they could probably even only be 5+ innings pitched.

The only guy you can pretty much 8 or 9 times out of 10 guarantee a 7th inning is Sabathia. Hughes is probably 50/50. AJ is 40/60. Nova and #5 starter are probably 10/90.

Just giving random numbers, but expect the Yankees bullpen to be one of the tops in the majors in innings pitched.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 6 months ago

I don’t think there’s a need for much of an innings limit for Nova. Between AAA and his mlb callup he pitched 187 innings last year.

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

Ahh thanks for the info. But who knows with them though, they have so many limits and restrictions. Hopefully not, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they did.

4 years 6 months ago

I love that these guys are seemingly going to pitch every day in the minds of Yankee fans. I’ll love watching them get burned out by July.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 6 months ago

I think that’s the point. No one is expecting them to pitch from March to September. But IF either of them show enough to make it out of AAA and we can hold the fort and get maybe 200 IP and a 4.50-4.80 FIP out of the two collectively then for $2.4 mil-$6 mil total it’s a good deal.

Here’s another perspective.

a) Hold the fort until either something better comes along via trade or one of the kids in AAA shows they are deserving of a call up.

b) If the AAA rotation looks something like some combination of Noesi/Phelps/Brackman/Mitchell/Betances/Banuelos/Warren with Garcia, Prior or Colon there to give them some mentoring and advice for the future, then so be it.

4 years 6 months ago

I was actually referring to the relief tandem of Mo/Soriano. I’ve just always hated the “now games are only 6 innings!!1!1!” argument. If they ride those 2 like pack mules (which they will), there’s still 90-100 games each of them don’t pitch in.

But I sort of agree with your assessment…my quibble with it is that the beginning of the season is far from meaningless. I posted elsewhere, but the Red Sox and Yankees had the same record after May 7th last season. The Red Sox poor start ended their season before it began.