Latest On Coco Crisp

TUESDAY, 3:49pm: Agent Steve Comte told Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports that Crisp wants to play for a winner and find a home for a few years. The Cubs and Cardinals are among the teams involved, Rosenthal tweets. MLBTR's Tim Dierkes first mentioned the Cubs' interest last week.

MONDAY, 9:12pm: Multiple teams remain interested and Crisp's agent declined to characterize discussions, according to Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch (on Twitter).

8:00pm: The Cardinals are discussing a deal with free agent outfielder Coco Crisp, according to Yahoo's Steve Henson (on Twitter). If the sides complete the deal, Crisp would play center field and bat atop the Cardinals' order with Jon Jay moving over to right field.

The switch-hitting Crisp led the American League with 49 stolen bases in 2011, hitting .264/.314/.379 with 27 doubles as Oakland's center fielder. The California native seems to prefer West Coast teams, but explained in September that he’s also looking to play on a winner and find a good "financial situation" for himself.

If Crisp signs in St. Louis, then Carlos Beltran will probably have one less suitor. The move would provide the Cardinals with depth as Allen Craig recovers from last month's knee surgery.


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110 Comments on "Latest On Coco Crisp"


Jdobb
3 years 8 months ago

PLEASE NO!!! Get Beltron or Fielder.

bbq1959
3 years 8 months ago

he droped boras. he is now a loranzo client

nictonjr
3 years 8 months ago

After the deal he got Pujols, so am I….

Cards_Fanboy
3 years 8 months ago

Beltran must be pushing for $14+ milly /yr or something.  Counting Furcal’s $7 mill that would put them at $21 mill this offseason.  I have my doubts Moz and Dewitt will go quite that high after seeing the Pujols offer.

notsureifsrs
3 years 8 months ago

you think they wouldn’t have given pujols 2/$42M?

Cards_Fanboy
3 years 8 months ago

Yea they would’ve, but for Pujols only.  Their real offer wasn’t even for $21 mill / year upfront.  At least a 3 mill / year was allegedly deferred.  I’m thinking 2 yrs / $27 mill is about their cap for Beltran, but we shall see I reckon.

notsureifsrs
3 years 8 months ago

beltran is reported to be seeking 2/$25M with an option. that’d be less than $20M per season for beltran and furcal, and a really good use of the pujols money imo

if i were a cards fan i’d be really annoyed if they signed crisp instead

Cards_Fanboy
3 years 8 months ago

Sounds about right

dylanp5030
3 years 8 months ago

I think they would have given him 1/42M

DanH35
3 years 8 months ago

I like Craig, but he is nowhere near as good as Heyward. 

3 years 8 months ago

Heyward is a better defender and younger but if you look at Craigs stats he hit over .300 and over 20 hrs in every level. He will  do this also in majors once given the opportunity. That said it would not be a one for one trade but include others from Cards such as Cox. 

bighiggy
3 years 8 months ago

i like craig, but i would trade him and mcclellan and westbrook for prado, jurrjens and a prospect

BrosaParks
3 years 8 months ago

..Except the Braves definitely don’t need anymore pitching.

bighiggy
3 years 8 months ago

well i think just trading chambers, a lefty center fielder, and craig would get prado

BrosaParks
3 years 8 months ago

He’s basically Skip Schumaker with a little more power and bats from the right side. No thanks.

bighiggy
3 years 8 months ago

who is basically skip? are you talking about craig? or crisp

BrosaParks
3 years 8 months ago

I guess you couldn’t follow a conversation. Martin Prado is just like Skip with more power. Why would we trade all that for someone who potentially could be non-tendered in the future?

bighiggy
3 years 8 months ago

i can follow a conversation but when 10 names are mentioned in that conversation and you dont say who you are talking about it is hard to follow!  and prado is a much better fielder at second than skip, and alot more power, big improvement. i might not give up craig for him, but if we sign crisp we have an overage of outfielders and you have to deal from your surplus.

BrosaParks
3 years 8 months ago

5/6 homeruns a year is not “alot more power.”Why would we have tendered Skip if we didn’t play on him being an integralpart? They wouldn’t play him at second if they were worriedabout defensive statistics. 

bighiggy
3 years 8 months ago

true,but crisp isnt the solution

BrosaParks
3 years 8 months ago

5/6 homeruns a year is not “alot more power.”Why would we have tendered Skip if we didn’t play on him being an integralpart? They wouldn’t play him at second if they were worriedabout defensive statistics. 

BrosaParks
3 years 8 months ago

I guess you couldn’t follow a conversation. Martin Prado is just like Skip with more power. Why would we trade all that for someone who potentially could be non-tendered in the future?

Leonard Washington
3 years 8 months ago

I’m not sure how Coco has done as a leadoff hitter since years ago with the Sox, but unless he got a lot better hitting #1 I doubt he is leading off for the Cards. That said it was awesome to watch him on defense, speeds nice, and his bat isn’t awful.

nictonjr
3 years 8 months ago

Someone has to hit leadoff.  As it stands today, I’d guess Jay….

Leonard Washington
3 years 8 months ago

I agree. Coco could leadoff but if I was the Cards I would try Furcal, or Jay before I resorted to that. 

bighiggy
3 years 8 months ago

i just think a lineup with shumaker, crisp and jay is power lacking, i mean molina has alittle pop and furcal too but even they dont hit alot of homers and we dont know what freese will do, i just think all that speed wont make up for a loss of power

mondaymorninggm
3 years 8 months ago

schumaker isnt starting, its dscalso at 2nd according to mo, and jay will only start for a month till craig is back. but youre right, if those 3 were all penciled in for the season i’d be concerned too.

Redbirds16
3 years 8 months ago

I think Jay vs. Crisp is a platoon waiting to happen. Crisp vs. LH, Jay vs. most RH. And whoever doesn’t start is a late inning replacement for Craig/Berkman/Holliday.

I just think if the Cards add Crisp, they start to limit the value Schumaker has to the team.

AndySTL
3 years 8 months ago

james shields a 4 or 5 starter????…if the Cards got Shields he would be our 2 or 3 starter…james shields is wayyy better than jaime

sam_lammert
3 years 8 months ago

haha that whole post was complete sarcasm

bighiggy
3 years 8 months ago

do you think craig, mcclellan and westbrook and throw in a jose garcia and someone else would be enough to get shields?

sam_lammert
3 years 8 months ago

im not sure, i think that if we included westbrook that would make us give more, so take out garcia and maybe throw in martinez and it could get it done maybe, they might be asking for a kings ransom though

bighiggy
3 years 8 months ago

i wasnt talking about garcia our pitcher, jose garcia is a minor league short stop of ours that has some potential, and mcclellan is a good reliever, westbrook a starter and of course craig is a stud, so they get a good package and i would think the payroll going both directions would be comparable

sam_lammert
3 years 8 months ago

i knew who you were refering too, i just ment since westbrooke was in there that it would be negative trade value and that we would need a better prospect in there than garcia

bighiggy
3 years 8 months ago

i see,i read your post wrong, i think martinez added would be too much, im sure they could find some combination without giving up the farm

sam_lammert
3 years 8 months ago

i don’t think the rays would give him up for anything short of a top prospect with what the padres just got for Latos

sam_lammert
3 years 8 months ago

i don’t think the rays would give him up for anything short of a top prospect with what the padres just got for Latos

3 years 8 months ago

Throw in Martinez! to go with Craig! No Thanks, The Cards have no need for Shields even though he is a nice pitcher. Only way this is done if the Cards could spin off Shields for Montero and Bettances. In that situation why not just keep what you have?

sam_lammert
3 years 8 months ago

i would never want this, i was just answering his question, thats what i think it could take, and i think we seriously overvalue craig here, don’t get me wrong, i love him, but hes not as good as we think

Ferrariman
3 years 8 months ago

not a chance, Westbrook makes a deal worse and McClellan does little for a team like the Rays who already have at least 10 better pitchers, though Craig might be a good player to build a package around.

bighiggy
3 years 8 months ago

so craig, jose garcia, he’s a short stop,plus cox and brian anderson or cruz? sound like a sound package. we have to get rid of westbrook then.

Robert A.
3 years 8 months ago

Was rumored that the package for Shields in the Reds-Rays talks was the same one that went to SD for Latos except TB wanted Mesaroco instead of Grandal.

Craig’s a stud. McClellan and Westbrook are good not great pitchers and Jose Garcia is not nearly as highly touted as an Alonso or maybe even Grandal (ableit at a very different position).

If a package built around great long term options at 1B and DH for the Rays (both needs of theirs, more than pitching) didn’t do it for Shields, methinks the package mentioned above wouldn’t quite do it either.

3 years 8 months ago

= piglatin

nictonjr
3 years 8 months ago

 The quote at top says he looking for the west coast or a winner AND find a good financial situation.  He made $5.75 mil last year.  Every other FA signing has been for too much.  I’d guess 1/6 or 2/12

bighiggy
3 years 8 months ago

if we give coco 6 mil and not beltran 12mil i would be deeply dissappointed!

nictonjr
3 years 8 months ago

The difference would be 1/6 vs 2/25-3/36. One year deals aren’t bad.  Even if it’s a slight overpay…

bighiggy
3 years 8 months ago

honestly we have money for both him and beltran, then package craig for prado or another better starter

3 years 8 months ago

I also feel the Cardinals were going in the right direction by letting Pujols take the money and go elsewhere.  However, I also feel they are doing all they can at this point… Other than Fielder and Rollins, the free agent market is really thin on healthy and dependable (stats wise) players.  As for Fielder, it just doesn’t make sense to give him all the money he wants.  Pujols would have just been an overpay b/c he’s Pujols.  As for Rollins, there is no way they could have gotten him for $11 million a year.  He was looking for someone to majorly overpay (just like the Pujols situation) and when no one would he ended up back in Philly… I agree that I don’t think Coco is the answer and Beltran is a MUCH better option.  However, the Cardinals are a smart organization and may not feel comfortable giving a player with Beltran’s health history the kind of money he is wanting…

Kendall Adkins
3 years 8 months ago

NOOOOO!!! 

3 years 8 months ago

He coulda stole 12 and he would of been the Cardinals team leader. Hopefully, we have him running often.

3 years 8 months ago

Why don’t the Twins sign him? They lost both corner OFers, and need some bench players.

highski
3 years 8 months ago

Glad you consider this a Pujols replacement. LOL

dc21892
3 years 8 months ago

I think it’s safe to say that was sarcasm.

highski
3 years 8 months ago

Haha – let’s hope!

3 years 8 months ago

Bizarre to consider. If he can get on base better than he has in recent years, then his speed might boost this offense and take it in another direction. However, I don’t see anything in his stats to suggest that such a change is likely to happen.

The_BiRDS
3 years 8 months ago

Great he’s a healthy Furcal.

dc21892
3 years 8 months ago

Better luck next time.

johnsilver
3 years 8 months ago

You get the idea Cardinals fans do not respect the idea of someone who brings GG defense, speed and plays the game all out in Crisp? Not to mention would be cheaper (most likely) than beltran.

Crisp is a lot better choice than Beltran. Cardinals fans are just still crying the blues over Pujols. Wake up.. He is long gone and.. Well, almost hard to find.

notsureifsrs
3 years 8 months ago

they could do worse than crisp, but beltran would be quite a bit better. you don’t win a world series, lose albert pujols, and suddenly get cheap

if they like crisp better than beltran for some reason that’s one thing. but choosing him because he’s cheaper would be a mistake

johnsilver
3 years 8 months ago

Overall what he can do is my reasoning. Play 3 positions and especially CF at GG ability, steal 30-50 bases, play with intesnity.

Crisp would be in a pretty good, spacey type stadium for his abilities also, lots of room for his slash and run style of game. Maybe some of it is my “love” of his style, defense and overall hustle on the field, but feel that he would be a perfect fit for many teams and Beltran, even though Crisp for 2 seasons had health issues, does not have a chronic issue that probably will never go away.

3 years 8 months ago

We just won a World Series with John Jay. Plays hard, durable, plays good defense, and plays cheap. Not the greatest hitter, but neither is Coco Crisp. Dislike…

johnsilver
3 years 8 months ago

Thats ok, everyone has opinions on certain players, I just came to respect Crisp as one of the hardest nosed, in your face type players ever saw in 40 years of watching the game when Crisp was with the Red Sox and on top of that? he is/was one with multiple talent for baseball.

Slash and run as good as about anyone and if a pitcher makes a mistake? he has the power to make them pay, which many speedy players lack, not to mention when he played CF with Boston was IMO the finest since Freddy Lynn and was the best with getting reads off of the bat since then also.. His arm is his only OF weakness.

Yes, my opinions may be tainted some since grew to appreciate his talents, but any team that ends up with him’s fans will end up appreciating his game more than who ends up with beltran and his crippled knees IMO.

gopinebrothers
3 years 8 months ago

Hit for .300 during the second major league season of his career.  Let’s see what he can do.  If you want a researve OF; how about Ankiel.

3 years 8 months ago

i’ll bite, who are you talking about?