Jose Reyes Signing Reactions

Before the Winter Meetings officially got underway, the Marlins struck the week's first major blow, agreeing to terms with Jose Reyes on a six-year, $106MM contract. Despite the shortstop's injury history, MLBTR's Tim Dierkes likes the signing for Miami, since Reyes "doesn't have to be amazing or play 162 games a year to be worth $17.67MM annually." Here's a round-up of a few more instant reactions to the deal:

  • While the Marlins took a risk committing over $100MM to Reyes, he has the potential to turn into a genuine bargain, writes Dave Cameron of Fangraphs.
  • Yahoo's Jeff Passan thinks the contract matches up favorably to Carl Crawford's deal, although "the idea of budget-conscious Mets and free-spending Marlins takes a minute to process."
  • ESPN.com's Keith Law (Insider link) views the contract as a big risk for Miami, arguing that, given Reyes' injury history, it seems "wildly optimistic" to assume he'll still be a viable shortstop by the end of the deal.
  • In another Insider piece, ESPN's Jim Bowden writes that Reyes provides the Marlins with a "much-needed dose of star power." Whereas Law saw the Mets as major winners in the process for avoiding a long-term risk, Bowden considers them the big loser in the deal.
  • The Mets have to rebuild their credibility along with their roster after losing Reyes, according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post.
  • The Mets are justified in letting Reyes go, but their approach made it look like they intended to finish second in the bidding, writes John Harper of the New York Daily News.
  • Adam Rubin of ESPN New York assigns the blame for Reyes' departure from New York on the Wilpons and Bernie Madoff, among others, rather than the player or GM.
  • When Reyes and Hanley Ramirez are both healthy and productive, they'll be perfect fits for the style of play preferred by new manager Ozzie Guillen, says Buster Olney of ESPN.com (Insider link).
  • Matthew Cerrone of MetsBlog respects GM Sandy Alderson's approach on Reyes, but is disappointed to see the Mets star snapped up by a division rival.
  • Matt Gelb of the Philadelphia Inquirer takes a look at what Reyes' signing means for the new top shortstop on the market, Jimmy Rollins.


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24 Comments on "Jose Reyes Signing Reactions"


LA
3 years 8 months ago

Reyes value was only 1 supplement and a 3rd round pick. Great Advice JP Riccardi

3 years 8 months ago

do the mets have any recourse for getting such little compensation for losing him ? they didnt trade him in july under the assumption of getting a first and supp round pick for him.

Guest
3 years 8 months ago

I highly expect the rule for compensation to be amended here. Something just isn’t right. It’s almost like this wasn’t considered in new CBA deal and this error was just exposed. I’ll admit I don’t know enough about draft pick compensation, but the Mets are getting shafted and from the business side of it, it really just isn’t fair in my opinion. Bell rated higher than Reyes? I’m still having a tough time digesting that. 

KingofKauff
3 years 8 months ago

Im getting a little sick of Keith Law and Jim Bowden saying that teams are overpaying.  Thats not something everybody already knows along with the Marlins or whoever is signing these guys.  You have to overpay to land a big name free agent, end of story.

dbreer23
3 years 8 months ago

Where does it say that?  Law says that the contract is risky (and I agree), but doesn’t call it an overpay.  Bowden loves it…

rsanchez1
3 years 8 months ago

Just imagine a lineup with Reyes, Bonifacio, Hanley, and Stanton at the top. Man you gotta like that.

mwach1
3 years 8 months ago

Seems like no one else will say it so I will:

The Mets had no chance of competing by the trade deadline and knew they likely would not re-sign Reyes. They could have received an A+ prospect for Reyes in a trade pre-July 31 (they got Wheeler for Beltran for Christ’s sake!).

The Mets front office is absolutely moronic for not trading Reyes last year. 

3 years 8 months ago

As much as I support the Mets letting Reyes walk, you are absolutely right.  They really played their cards wrong when it came to compensation…

Jason Wilson
3 years 8 months ago

they should have traded him at the deadline. they got the giants BEST pitching prospect (and the giants are no slouches when it comes to having good farm talent with pitching) for an aging/declining beltran who is 36 years old. you can’t tell me they couldn’t have netted more for reyes!

Amakiir
3 years 8 months ago

Reyes went from my favorite player to least favorite in about 60 seconds flat.  I hope he (CONTINUES TO) gets injured.  Reyes, you are dead to me.

And while you’re at it, bring the injury bug to the Marlins. It is getting boring to see the Mets get decimated by injuries every season. Another team can take the reigns for a while.

rsanchez1
3 years 8 months ago

Now that he’s out of NY, I don’t think he’ll be getting injured as often. NY seems to have a curse when it comes to injured players.

Amakiir
3 years 8 months ago

Josh Johnson, Mike Stanton, Hanley Ramirez, and Jose Reyes missing 80-100 games *each* next season would be justice well served for the Mets only getting a third round pick for losing Reyes.

They should at LEAST get two in between picks if they cannot get the first or second round pick. That is absurd. The Marlins didn’t even LOSE their second round pick, the Mets are just getting screwed over.

rsanchez1
3 years 8 months ago

So the Mets got screwed over by the Marlins again. Can’t believe you’re not used to it yet. 

Amakiir
3 years 8 months ago

Like I said, all is well and good if half the Marlins are on the DL next season.  Or at least Reyes.  Well, we all know Reyes will be, its just a matter of how long.  30 games?  130?  Who knows.

3 years 8 months ago

as long as they consistently beat the philthies, i’m ok with it

lefty177
3 years 8 months ago

ahh, i see what you did there

Dave Wetzel
3 years 8 months ago

The last time Keith Law liked a big-money free agent signing was never.  I don’t even know why he gets asked to write about them, the answer will always be “that’s a big risk.”  (Not saying he’s wrong by the way, just saying his answer is never a surprise.)

dickylarue
3 years 8 months ago

He likes them if the Red Sox signed them under Theo. 

greggofboken
3 years 8 months ago

For all those hammering Alderson for not trading Reyes at the deadline, at what point do you factor in last season’s lost ticket sales and the loss of fan goodwill into your equation?  After jettisoning K-Rod and Beltran, how does a trade of Reyes for a higher-level prospect than the draft pick compensation play to a fanbase and at the turnstiles….or is it all just fantasy baseball?

These things have to be taken into account when running a business…and I’m not hearing much of that here.

notsureifsrs
3 years 8 months ago

that’s extraordinarily short-sighted

chico65
3 years 8 months ago

Making a buck today no matter the consequence of that decision tomorrow?  What are you talking about?  That’s never caused any problems anywhere before… 

Steve_in_MA
3 years 8 months ago

It certainly isn’t much of stretch to imagine that Reyes will be able to average a +4 WAR over the life of this contract.  I don’t see where the skepticism lies.  Yeah, he had an injury-plagued 2009 and a partially injury-plagued 2010.  But he returned to full form as far as WAR production in 2011.  Figure 3 years of +6, 2 years of +3 and a year of +1, and he’s at +25 WAR, right in line with the money.

icedrake523
3 years 8 months ago

People forget trading Reyes wasn’t going to happen. Teams make big moves
closer to the deadline. Unfortunately for the Mets, he went on the DL
July 2 and didn’t come back until July 19. And in the days leading up to
the deadline, he didn’t hit well at all (.250/.271/.393).

I’m a Met fan, but our fanbase is pretty stupid when it comes to things like this. The people who are saying they should have traded him today are the same ones who would have whined non-stopped had he been. They have very short memories, overpaying for free agents is what contributed to this current mess to begin with. Blame Madoff all you want, but that had nothing to do with all the injuries and under performance the last 3 seasons. These short-sighted fans want to be like the Yankees and sign every free agent. However, I’d prefer to be like the 1996-1999 Yankees, take time developing a good team and have sustained success, allowing you to eventually sign more top free agents.

metsman
3 years 8 months ago

“When Reyes and Hanley Ramirez are both healthy and productive, they’ll be perfect fits for the style of play preferred by new manager Ozzie Guillen”
…what’s that, falmboyant and moody?