Marlins Sign Jose Reyes

Anyone still wondering if the Miami Marlins are serious about making a splash this offseason?  The Marlins officially signed star shortstop Jose Reyes to a six-year, $106MM deal today.  Reyes will receive a heavily backloaded $102MM over six guaranteed years, and has a $4MM buyout on a seventh year option worth $22MM.  The backloaded nature of the deal could serve as a no-trade clause, something the deal does not include.  Reyes is represented by Peter E. Greenberg & Associates.

Reyes

As a free agent shortstop in his prime, Reyes was a rarity.  The 28-year-old had one of the finest seasons of his nine-year Mets career in 2011, winning his first batting title and posting the fourth season in which he was worth about six wins above replacement.  Mets owner Fred Wilpon famously told a reporter in April that Reyes wouldn't get Carl Crawford money, and while Reyes fell one year and $36MM short of that benchmark, he did join Crawford as just baseball's second $100MM player without a 20 home run season on his resume.  Reyes' contract was depressed by his injury history, as he hasn't played 135 games in a season since '08.  I still like the deal for the Marlins, as Reyes doesn't have to be amazing or play 162 games a year to be worth $17.67MM annually.

The signing means that the Marlins will ask Hanley Ramirez to move to third base, an idea that may not thrill him.

The Mets were willing to offer Reyes a five-year deal for $75-85MM with a sixth year option, but felt that they could not push their offer any further, according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post (via Twitter).  At today's press conference, Reyes suggested the Mets never made an offer.  GM Sandy Alderson made the decision not to trade Reyes this summer partly because he hoped to re-sign the team's longtime shortstop.  The new collective bargaining agreement did not affect Reyes' status as a Type A free agent, and the Mets will receive the Marlins' third-round pick as well as a supplemental pick in the 2012 draft for their loss (unless the Marlins sign C.J. Wilson or Albert Pujols, among others).  It appears that although the Marlins did not give their second-round pick to the Padres for Heath Bell, Bell's higher Elias ranking still pushes the Mets' pick to the third round.  In addition to the Mets, the Brewers were expected to be in on the 28-year-old and had planned to meet with his agents this week.  

Armed with deeper pockets and the appeal of a brand new ballpark, the Marlins have been aggressive in their courtship of top free agents this winter.  They signed closer Heath Bell a few days ago, have an offer out to C.J. Wilson, and remain in the mix for Mark Buehrle and even Albert Pujols.

Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports broke news of the agreement and the absence of a no-trade clause, ESPN's Jayson Stark added contract deals, Enrique Rojas of ESPNDeportesLosAngeles.com first reported the length of the offer, and other details were also provided by Jon Heyman of Sports Illustrated and Joel Sherman of the New York Post.  Tim Dierkes contributed to this post.  Photo courtesy of Icon SMI.


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366 Comments on "Marlins Sign Jose Reyes"


3 years 8 months ago

overpaid 

3 years 8 months ago

WOW

3 years 8 months ago

Derek Jeter lasted his entire career playing questionable D at SS, Hanley could’ve done the same.  This signing/contract makes absolutely no sense considering A) Reyes is injury prone and B) One season ago they had the #1/2 SS in the game with Hanley.

Waste of resources much?

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

I almost feel for Hanley . Not only now are the Marlins saying to him that he is no longer the best player on his team , but that now he is no longer the best player at his position on his team . He is obviously not happy about it otherwise he would have made a comment after being asked about the signing .

notsureifsrs
3 years 8 months ago

hanley’s kind of always been a third baseman playing shortstop anyway. his defense could actually be good at the corner instead of bad at short

if he returns to form offensively while playing even average defense at third base, he will almost certainly be the most valuable player on that team

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

The guy is a very skilled player . I would agree that there are better defenders at that position . But he obviously would rather play SS than 3rd or OF . And Reyes is just slightly better of a defensive upgrade at SS . Hanley had one fairly rough year there according to his dWAR . Other than that they are fairly similar at the position .

notsureifsrs
3 years 8 months ago

you need more data. he’s been 44 runs below average for his career according to UZR and 50 below average according to DRS and +/-. b-r’s TZL – the least accurate of the three – is the only one that likes him. and even that has been negative the last two seasons

i think he can be an average or better 3B, though, and that’d make for a crazy valuable left-side in miami

rsanchez1
3 years 8 months ago

As a Marlins fan, it will take a lot for me to ever feel bad for Hanley. I like this trade if only because it shows Hanley he’s not the face of the franchise.

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

Either Josh Johnson or Mike Stanton should take that role over . Much like McCann has done with the Braves and Chipper .

Gerod11
3 years 8 months ago

and you swallow gravy

wait_HOWmanyrings
3 years 8 months ago

what an intelligent comment

cubs223425
3 years 8 months ago

Josh Johnson has to manage to stay on the field, but Stanton COULD pull it off.

rsanchez1
3 years 8 months ago

Yep, Stanton is the face of the franchise in my book.

3 years 8 months ago

It wasn’t a trade, it was a free agent signing. Please learn the difference if you are going to post on baseball acquisitions, It’ll make you sound more informed.

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

Pretty sure he’s talking about Hanley trading positions from SS to 3B.

rsanchez1
3 years 8 months ago

Thank you very much.

Bulldawwg
3 years 8 months ago

Well, well…Look at you, Mr. Smartypants

Eduardo Medina
3 years 8 months ago

The face of the Miami Marlins is Mike Stanton…

cubs223425
3 years 8 months ago

He’s always been a terrible fielder. This season, he added terrible hitting to it. His occasionally-bad attitude didn’t help his cause, nor did the fact that his owner’s not exactly a genius.

I think that if Hanley isn’t a total Zambrano about it, it could be a decent move in the sense that Dominguez hasn’t developed as well as we expected (though it’s VERY early), meaning they could use Hanley at 3B, where the FA market is bare, other than Aramis Ramirez (and the Ramirez pair on the left side of the IF would be a defensive nightmare beyond comprehension).

They could also use a better overall player in center, where Hanley has allegedly been considered for relocation. If they are (understandably) unhappy with Infante’s performance, they could also look at moving Hanley to second and putting Infante at third (if he’s a better defender there) or benching him if Dominguez shows up better in Spring Training.

Really, though, I tend to not feel badly for rich people playing a game who have pissy attitudes and aren’t exactly the best at hustling at all times.

3 years 8 months ago

Hanley did comment, you dont know what you’re saying at all.. it was Hanley’s agent who didn’t comment.. get ur facts straight

cubs223425
3 years 8 months ago

Maybe, maybe not. Jeter’s never had questionable hustle or an occasionally bad attitude, so he got a longer leash in terms of keeping him happy. He had the benefit of developing (or not, depending if you mean his offense or his defense) in a pre-sabermetric age, so people looked at how flashy his plays were (likely a factor when he won some of his GGs), rather than having stats like UZR to point out his lack of range and overall defensive value.

It also doesn’t help that Hanley was horrid last year. When Jeter struggled, it was later in his career, and there was no one like Reyes to grab as a SS replacement. Jeter pretty much had the ideal situation and demeanor to stick (metrics weren’t widely-accepted stats, he’s a pretty decent guy, and he hits better than most shortstops).

I totally agree that this is a MINOR waste of resources, though. Where else would this money have gone? Granted, I think that they have too much faith in fickle Miami inhabitants. They’re still not likely to finish better than 3rd in the NL East by a noticeable margin, meaning those fickle fans might not show up as much as Loria hopes (he deserves that, though). They might not have the money they expect, making this contract more troublesome than we think now (especially with Hanley on the roster and JJ having some issues with health and making a good deal of dough).

There wasn’t a great fit in this free agent class. Wilson might have been the best, simply because you can never have too much pitching. Fielder or Pujols might have been the sexy choice to sell tickets, but they have a pair of respectable hitters that can handle first in Gaby Sanchez and Logan Morrison. Reyes might have been the #2 choice of the big four (of sorts), since Hanley is a pretty bad (read: TERRIBLE) fielder. It moves him off of the position, though we’ll see if that’s worth his crybaby outburst that MIGHT follow.

Wilson is the only specific player I woudl have called better in terms of fit, but when you consider cost, I probably would have taken Beuhrle or Rollins as well (depending on the contracts they get).

cacavolante
3 years 8 months ago

you couldn’t be more wrong. if he stays healthy he is going to be grossly underpaid. and if he doesnt, chances are he will still be well worth the contract. this is a great signing.

Nick Sossamon
3 years 8 months ago

Because he’s been so healthy the past three seasons… we should all believe he will be the pinnacle of health for the next six years?  And even if he doesn’t stay healthy you’re saying he’s still worth $18MM a year?  Very interesting.

cacavolante
3 years 8 months ago

so now according to dave cameron he has to be worth 19 war over the life of the contract to earn it. imo it would take a miracle for that not to happen, so actually now im saying he’s DEFINITELY worth $18 mil a year.

rsanchez1
3 years 8 months ago

There’s also the absent no-trade clause if he doesn’t stay healthy.

cubs223425
3 years 8 months ago

Hah, this is only going to get worse.

Reyes has one GREAT tool, his legs (his contact’s good as well, but you get the point). He keeps on having more and more of these leg injuries, and it’s going to make his running worse and worse. It’s tough to hurt a leg a billion times and get 100% production out of it.

This also runs until he is 34. By ten, he’ll probably have 5-10 more leg-related DL stints on the books, and he’ll probably be lucky to make it into 130 games (which he didn’t this season) and steal 35 bases.

There is a chance this works out, but they paid market value for a guy with BIG injury risks. He’ll be great when he’s on the field, but we just don’t know how frequently he really will be.

Someone asked be how bad of a failure his contract will be. I turned to J.D. Drew. It wasn’t a horrid contract, but it was probably something of a noticeable yet minor overpay. He’ll probably earn his keep in his short (from DL stints) seasons for the first half of the contract, maybe 4 years. For the last two, I think it’s going to be pretty iffy, where he’s worth about $10 million and making about $20 million.

3 years 8 months ago

New Mlb TR Logo. I kind of like it.

Infield Fly
3 years 8 months ago

It’s the logo MLBTR uses just for the Winter Meetings. They do it every year.

Anyway…it’s on now!!

tacko
3 years 8 months ago

Really hope this turns into the 2012 Jayson Werth signing now. 

The_BiRDS
3 years 8 months ago

MLB reports “Marlins president say Jose Reyes must cut his hair, he must follow the rules” haha

WisBrave
3 years 8 months ago

This years Jason Werth?

3 years 8 months ago

 His name should have changed from “Werth” to “Worth” after that contract.  Good timely misspelling there…

nats2012
3 years 8 months ago

And Jason is Jayson.

3 years 8 months ago

YES! Predicted that one correctly!! In your face, Tim Dierkes!! The Brewers?? Puh-leez… 

tigers22
3 years 8 months ago

good for you man.  you can go ahead and be a little less of a d-bag about it though…

3 years 8 months ago

In case you couldn’t tell, I was JOKING!! Being as how I’ve only picked 4 right myself so far, it’s not like I can seriously throw it in anyone’s face, anyway… 

TheBigStapler
3 years 8 months ago

It’s really hard to feel good about the state of the Mets right now.

NYBravosFan10
3 years 8 months ago

all part of the rebuilding process…I hate to say it but David Wright might be next :(

guydavis
3 years 8 months ago

I don’t hope so but I can see it being beneficial to the teams future

NYBravosFan10
3 years 8 months ago

It’s tough, it really is. Trust me, I KNOW.

coolstorybro222
3 years 8 months ago

yeah he’s coming to the braves. I know it. Chipper’s on the out.

3 years 8 months ago

Hey, look on the bright side……………….………………….. yeah i couldn’t think of one either.

NYBravosFan10
3 years 8 months ago

lol, I laughed

3 years 8 months ago

As a Braves/Rays I feel great about the state of the Mets….now if the Yankees would just hurry up and get ancient..

dylanp5030
3 years 8 months ago

Dream Team!

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

Dream team ? There are still (at this point) quite a few teams in the majors that are considerably better .

3 years 8 months ago

I’m really starting to become annoyed with your hate.

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

Who’s hating ? I was just stating the obvious .

wait_HOWmanyrings
3 years 8 months ago

YO! all you haterz need to back up out my FACE!

3 years 8 months ago

The starting pitching still needs to improve.

dylanp5030
3 years 8 months ago

I was kidding. I’m a Phillies (and, of course, an Eagles fan). I was hoping we would call them a Dream Team so that they would horribly choke and be the laughing stock of the league (like the Eagles)

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

It could still happen .

rsanchez1
3 years 8 months ago

Or like the Braves and Red Sox.

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

We’ve never been called the dream team . We could have been called that during that string of 14 straight division titles though . But I think we were a little more humble than that .

3 years 8 months ago

14 dicision titles, 1 WS. Not exactly worth of the dream team. I would tend to think of that as more of a nightmare

rsanchez1
3 years 8 months ago

Yes, but both teams did horribly choke last season.

3 years 8 months ago

Marlins? the dream team??  trying to shake the phillies 4 aces curse are we?

dylanp5030
3 years 8 months ago

There’s a curse?

3 years 8 months ago

Yeah, they have 4 aces and didn’t make it to the World Series.

cubs223425
3 years 8 months ago

Well, one down (Oswalt), haha. And Howard. I still say ATL and PHI beat the Marlins, and I wouldnt’ be surprised if the Nats pull it off as well.

rsanchez1
3 years 8 months ago

The Marlins are still missing a lot of pieces to be called a dream team.

$1639604
3 years 8 months ago

😮

diehardmets
3 years 8 months ago

So long to my favorite Met. I don’t blame you for jumping ship in all honesty. Instead, I will focus my intense hatred and dislike towards the Wilpons for ruining something that could have been great. 

guydavis
3 years 8 months ago

Try Omar Minaya

icedrake523
3 years 8 months ago

6 years of DL stints would have been great?

notsureifsrs
3 years 8 months ago

alderson deserves some criticism here as you guys end up with just a supp. pick and a second rounder to show for your superstar shortstop. could have gotten much, much more

3 years 8 months ago

As a Braves fan all I can say is good for the Fish, hope they didn’t overpay, now hope my Braves can get a LF and SS. Lets go Bravos

3 years 8 months ago

I imagine the Braves aren’t going for Rollins, right?

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

No . Wren has already stated that he is comfortable with Pastornicky starting the season at SS . They will be , I’m assuming , looking to land a LFer through a trade and possibly a UT guy if Prado is traded .

cubs223425
3 years 8 months ago

Psst…I hear you guys don’t like Prado. We’ll give you Soriano and a truck of cash…TAKE THE DEAL!

Seriously, I’d like to see Prado playing 3B, seeing as it’s DeWitt or Baker otherwise.

rsanchez1
3 years 8 months ago

If you’d like the Marlins have a spare shortstop lying around. I’d love to see how he works with Fredi Gonzalez.

Louie Schuth
3 years 8 months ago

Sounds like Crawford of last year.

andrewyf
3 years 8 months ago

Except he’s younger, has a higher offensive ceiling, and plays a much more valuable defensive position. He’s also paid less and for one less year.

FunkyTime
3 years 8 months ago

Seriously.  People be crazy.

I thought the Werth and Crawford deals were horrible as soon as they were signed. This one isn’t.

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

Really good player . But a bit much of an overpay to get him .

3 years 8 months ago

Your comments are welcome. Haters included. 

shysox
3 years 8 months ago

If I had a dollar for every time you said “hater” I’d probably be a millionaire.

NYBravosFan10
3 years 8 months ago

all the Marlins fans are going to start flooding this website so get used to it.

flickadave
3 years 8 months ago

All 3 of them? At the same time?

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

I’ve counted 5 so far . But you were close .

flickadave
3 years 8 months ago

See? Reyes has already almost doubled their fanbase!

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

LOL . Now lets see if he can double their attendance for next year which would almost be a sellout .

3 years 8 months ago

if we did get to 10 it would be like a braves playoff game, empty in the stands :)

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

You do realize that the Braves averaged over 30,000 a game compared to the 19,000 that the Marlins averaged . Thats 11,000 more a game which would equal almost 90,000 over a year at 80 to 81 games . HUGE difference .

BluMule
3 years 8 months ago

Actually its 891000

WNYMetsfan03
3 years 8 months ago

I lold

wadecounty561
3 years 8 months ago

oh damn another attendance joke, is this carlos mencias account? so original. 

3 years 8 months ago

Your picture is out of date.

3 years 8 months ago

Its a classic and something classic never goes out of style

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

Well , when you are watching a game and see almost 50 or so people in the stands and half of those are rooting for the other team , you kinda have to joke about it .

wadecounty561
3 years 8 months ago

yeah it was hilarious the first 600000 times we heard it though.

wait_HOWmanyrings
3 years 8 months ago

actually, if i was a marlins fan i would be quite offended after hearing a joke 600000 times

3 years 8 months ago

ur clearly just a baseball fan and know nothing about the actual game.. jose reyes is single handedly better than any player on the braves.. just saying

Zuidvogels
3 years 8 months ago

If you said “each and everytime”, you might be a millionaire.

shysox
3 years 8 months ago

He’s said it at least 5 times in other posts. I guarantee it.

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

I’m not ‘hating’ . Reyes is a good player . BUT , he has had health issue over the last 3 years . I think the Marlins could have had him cheaper .

JP27
3 years 8 months ago

the soap oprea with Reyes is over but now lets see about HanRam

arod188
3 years 8 months ago

Well here is Jayson Werth v.2. I know the fish wanted to make a splash with the new stadium and team name but this is pushing it a little

cacavolante
3 years 8 months ago

im so tired of this jayson werth crap. these 2 guys arent even in the same universe. i dont know if this is going to end up being a bad contract but jose reyes is a much better baseball player than jayson werth.

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

It’s really hard to compare the two considering that they play different positions . But if you like WAR as an advanced stat .

Reyes (this year(contract year))5.8
Werth (2 years ago(contract year))5.2

So for the positions that they play in their respective contract years , they are not very far apart . One offers a little more to the game than the other and vice versa .

NatsTown
3 years 8 months ago

this

cacavolante
3 years 8 months ago

try again

cacavolante
3 years 8 months ago

who said anything about contract years? you cherry picked werth’s ONE 5+ war season (which happened to be his contract year). reyes has had either 4 or 5 i think. he has a much better track record. comparing the 2 is stupid. 

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

Players always seem to play better during their contract year . Thats why I was using it for comparison . Reyes year last year was arguably his best year to date . Thats one reason I decided to use them .

3 years 8 months ago

No it wasn’t. Look at his WAR’s from 2006-2008 bro. 

cacavolante
3 years 8 months ago

oh and reyes is 4 years younger and clearly in his prime. but im sure that doesnt count either.

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

Oh and he has been injured each of the last 3 years and has not played more than 133 games in one season during that time . But I guess that doesn’t count either .

cacavolante
3 years 8 months ago

great, that’s another way he is not at all like jayson werth. thanks for helping make my point. jose reyes and his contract are not at all like jayson werth and his contract in any way…

rsanchez1
3 years 8 months ago

Difference was Jayson Werth had garbage surrounding him in DC. The team was pretty much Werth and Ryan Zimmerman. 

cacavolante
3 years 8 months ago

i guess you’re right. i wasnt taking into account the lineup protection provided by jason bay, angel pagan, justin turner, david wright (im sorry i honestly cant think of another mets hitter). but they were much better than the nats…

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

Lucas Duda and Ike Davis .

3 years 8 months ago

Thank you Loria and Co for finally holding up your end of the deal…see ya in April, May, June, July, August, September, and seemingly October too. 

-Life long Marlins Fan.

boraswannabe
3 years 8 months ago

Life long? Certainly a long time!

WisBrave
3 years 8 months ago

Don’t thank Loria yet. He’s all about the money and himself. He’ll run the team in the ground to make a profit or get his way.

3 years 8 months ago

 Cant get any worse than the past 7 years…

rsanchez1
3 years 8 months ago

Not if the Feds have anything to say about it.

NYBravosFan10
3 years 8 months ago

life long? How was ur 18th birthday this past year? Bet it was a rockin’ good time

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

Well they will at least see you from April to September . You could always invite them to your house in October just to say they saw you . Matbe you can even watch the playoffs together . Ooh ooh , maybe even invite Reyes too .

3 years 8 months ago

You invite Wren to your house this past October? 

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

I tried but he was busy looking down at the basement of the NL East to find the Marlins somewhere .

I can do this all day guy . I’m preparing myself to get ripped over some of our signings too . You should do the same .

3 years 8 months ago

Loria is a criminal only out for himself. Don’t thank him yet, until he has a chance to trade Reyes for nothing next winter. 

3 years 8 months ago

Did you just say seemingly October too for the Marlins? I guess you’d be right though considering the season ends on October 3rd.  

3 years 8 months ago

What’s gonna happen to Hanley now?

3 years 8 months ago

 OMG!!! Where have you been the last two months???  Christ!

3 years 8 months ago

Been hanging out with your mom.

3 years 8 months ago

 Wow how original…and gross.

NYBravosFan10
3 years 8 months ago

and funny

3 years 8 months ago

I used that joke on him earlier…so it was due payback.

3 years 8 months ago

He’ll be moving to third.

3 years 8 months ago

Maybe the Cardinals will trade for him as their new SS.

Jeremiah Hughes
3 years 8 months ago

Why would that make sense in any world? I would suppose that the Cards would want to use their money for Albert, and not take on another large contract.

bacboris
3 years 8 months ago

And which arm/leg will they be handing over in this fantasy of yours?

3 years 8 months ago

the adam wainwright one :)

Dermick
3 years 8 months ago

He’ll be traded in a year or two.

Karkat
3 years 8 months ago

*grabs some popcorn for the Hanley Ramirez media fallout*

3 years 8 months ago

Brace yourselves……..

EarlyMorningBoxscore
3 years 8 months ago

Well, you’ll be waiting for a long time. Hanley said he’d move to third base if they signed Reyes. 

Karkat
3 years 8 months ago

Aww, really? What happened to his no-way-am-I-switching-positions attitude? Ozzie get to him?

EarlyMorningBoxscore
3 years 8 months ago

Apparently Hanley and Reyes are good friends. Either Hanley is one of Jose’s kids godfather or vice versa I can’t remember which. That probably played into it. 

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

Didn’t Hanley just go public a week or so ago and tell the media that HE is the Marlins SS ?

3 years 8 months ago

A week ago, he WAS the Marlins SS

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

That was the point I was trying to make . He wanted to be the SS this year . He may be friends with Reyes like someone else posted , but all signs are saying that he is not happy about having to move to another position .

3 years 8 months ago

They sat Hanley in a small room and played Ozzie’s press conferences over and over until he cracked and agreed to move to 3B.

3 years 8 months ago

 FInd me that article that says word for word “no-way-am-I-switching-positions” and ill send you $100.00.

Karkat
3 years 8 months ago

Try not to be so literal, friend 😉

JM
3 years 8 months ago

He’s really good friends with Reyes and wants to win.

lefty177
3 years 8 months ago

He did? I could be wrong but I thought over a month ago I saw on here Hanley saying he wouldn’t, I don’t feel like finding the link though, I also could have seen will not instead of will

cubs223425
3 years 8 months ago

I don’t get it. They piss off Ramirez (though for a decent cause) and pay money they don’t even know they have for a guy with a long injury history.

omavricko
3 years 8 months ago

I heard something about Hanley to CF but I highly doubt that. Probably 3B.