Marlins Sign Jose Reyes

Anyone still wondering if the Miami Marlins are serious about making a splash this offseason?  The Marlins officially signed star shortstop Jose Reyes to a six-year, $106MM deal today.  Reyes will receive a heavily backloaded $102MM over six guaranteed years, and has a $4MM buyout on a seventh year option worth $22MM.  The backloaded nature of the deal could serve as a no-trade clause, something the deal does not include.  Reyes is represented by Peter E. Greenberg & Associates.

Reyes

As a free agent shortstop in his prime, Reyes was a rarity.  The 28-year-old had one of the finest seasons of his nine-year Mets career in 2011, winning his first batting title and posting the fourth season in which he was worth about six wins above replacement.  Mets owner Fred Wilpon famously told a reporter in April that Reyes wouldn't get Carl Crawford money, and while Reyes fell one year and $36MM short of that benchmark, he did join Crawford as just baseball's second $100MM player without a 20 home run season on his resume.  Reyes' contract was depressed by his injury history, as he hasn't played 135 games in a season since '08.  I still like the deal for the Marlins, as Reyes doesn't have to be amazing or play 162 games a year to be worth $17.67MM annually.

The signing means that the Marlins will ask Hanley Ramirez to move to third base, an idea that may not thrill him.

The Mets were willing to offer Reyes a five-year deal for $75-85MM with a sixth year option, but felt that they could not push their offer any further, according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post (via Twitter).  At today's press conference, Reyes suggested the Mets never made an offer.  GM Sandy Alderson made the decision not to trade Reyes this summer partly because he hoped to re-sign the team's longtime shortstop.  The new collective bargaining agreement did not affect Reyes' status as a Type A free agent, and the Mets will receive the Marlins' third-round pick as well as a supplemental pick in the 2012 draft for their loss (unless the Marlins sign C.J. Wilson or Albert Pujols, among others).  It appears that although the Marlins did not give their second-round pick to the Padres for Heath Bell, Bell's higher Elias ranking still pushes the Mets' pick to the third round.  In addition to the Mets, the Brewers were expected to be in on the 28-year-old and had planned to meet with his agents this week.  

Armed with deeper pockets and the appeal of a brand new ballpark, the Marlins have been aggressive in their courtship of top free agents this winter.  They signed closer Heath Bell a few days ago, have an offer out to C.J. Wilson, and remain in the mix for Mark Buehrle and even Albert Pujols.

Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports broke news of the agreement and the absence of a no-trade clause, ESPN's Jayson Stark added contract deals, Enrique Rojas of ESPNDeportesLosAngeles.com first reported the length of the offer, and other details were also provided by Jon Heyman of Sports Illustrated and Joel Sherman of the New York Post.  Tim Dierkes contributed to this post.  Photo courtesy of Icon SMI.


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  1. overpaid 

      • Derek Jeter lasted his entire career playing questionable D at SS, Hanley could’ve done the same.  This signing/contract makes absolutely no sense considering A) Reyes is injury prone and B) One season ago they had the #1/2 SS in the game with Hanley.

        Waste of resources much?

        • bravesdude 4 years ago

          I almost feel for Hanley . Not only now are the Marlins saying to him that he is no longer the best player on his team , but that now he is no longer the best player at his position on his team . He is obviously not happy about it otherwise he would have made a comment after being asked about the signing .

          • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

            hanley’s kind of always been a third baseman playing shortstop anyway. his defense could actually be good at the corner instead of bad at short

            if he returns to form offensively while playing even average defense at third base, he will almost certainly be the most valuable player on that team

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            The guy is a very skilled player . I would agree that there are better defenders at that position . But he obviously would rather play SS than 3rd or OF . And Reyes is just slightly better of a defensive upgrade at SS . Hanley had one fairly rough year there according to his dWAR . Other than that they are fairly similar at the position .

          • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

            you need more data. he’s been 44 runs below average for his career according to UZR and 50 below average according to DRS and +/-. b-r’s TZL – the least accurate of the three – is the only one that likes him. and even that has been negative the last two seasons

            i think he can be an average or better 3B, though, and that’d make for a crazy valuable left-side in miami

          • rsanchez1 4 years ago

            As a Marlins fan, it will take a lot for me to ever feel bad for Hanley. I like this trade if only because it shows Hanley he’s not the face of the franchise.

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            Either Josh Johnson or Mike Stanton should take that role over . Much like McCann has done with the Braves and Chipper .

          • Gerod11 4 years ago

            and you swallow gravy

          • wait_HOWmanyrings 4 years ago

            what an intelligent comment

          • cubs223425 4 years ago

            Josh Johnson has to manage to stay on the field, but Stanton COULD pull it off.

          • rsanchez1 4 years ago

            Yep, Stanton is the face of the franchise in my book.

          • It wasn’t a trade, it was a free agent signing. Please learn the difference if you are going to post on baseball acquisitions, It’ll make you sound more informed.

          • MB923 4 years ago

            Pretty sure he’s talking about Hanley trading positions from SS to 3B.

          • rsanchez1 4 years ago

            Thank you very much.

          • Bulldawwg 4 years ago

            Well, well…Look at you, Mr. Smartypants

          • Eduardo Medina 4 years ago

            The face of the Miami Marlins is Mike Stanton…

          • cubs223425 4 years ago

            He’s always been a terrible fielder. This season, he added terrible hitting to it. His occasionally-bad attitude didn’t help his cause, nor did the fact that his owner’s not exactly a genius.

            I think that if Hanley isn’t a total Zambrano about it, it could be a decent move in the sense that Dominguez hasn’t developed as well as we expected (though it’s VERY early), meaning they could use Hanley at 3B, where the FA market is bare, other than Aramis Ramirez (and the Ramirez pair on the left side of the IF would be a defensive nightmare beyond comprehension).

            They could also use a better overall player in center, where Hanley has allegedly been considered for relocation. If they are (understandably) unhappy with Infante’s performance, they could also look at moving Hanley to second and putting Infante at third (if he’s a better defender there) or benching him if Dominguez shows up better in Spring Training.

            Really, though, I tend to not feel badly for rich people playing a game who have pissy attitudes and aren’t exactly the best at hustling at all times.

          • Hanley did comment, you dont know what you’re saying at all.. it was Hanley’s agent who didn’t comment.. get ur facts straight

        • cubs223425 4 years ago

          Maybe, maybe not. Jeter’s never had questionable hustle or an occasionally bad attitude, so he got a longer leash in terms of keeping him happy. He had the benefit of developing (or not, depending if you mean his offense or his defense) in a pre-sabermetric age, so people looked at how flashy his plays were (likely a factor when he won some of his GGs), rather than having stats like UZR to point out his lack of range and overall defensive value.

          It also doesn’t help that Hanley was horrid last year. When Jeter struggled, it was later in his career, and there was no one like Reyes to grab as a SS replacement. Jeter pretty much had the ideal situation and demeanor to stick (metrics weren’t widely-accepted stats, he’s a pretty decent guy, and he hits better than most shortstops).

          I totally agree that this is a MINOR waste of resources, though. Where else would this money have gone? Granted, I think that they have too much faith in fickle Miami inhabitants. They’re still not likely to finish better than 3rd in the NL East by a noticeable margin, meaning those fickle fans might not show up as much as Loria hopes (he deserves that, though). They might not have the money they expect, making this contract more troublesome than we think now (especially with Hanley on the roster and JJ having some issues with health and making a good deal of dough).

          There wasn’t a great fit in this free agent class. Wilson might have been the best, simply because you can never have too much pitching. Fielder or Pujols might have been the sexy choice to sell tickets, but they have a pair of respectable hitters that can handle first in Gaby Sanchez and Logan Morrison. Reyes might have been the #2 choice of the big four (of sorts), since Hanley is a pretty bad (read: TERRIBLE) fielder. It moves him off of the position, though we’ll see if that’s worth his crybaby outburst that MIGHT follow.

          Wilson is the only specific player I woudl have called better in terms of fit, but when you consider cost, I probably would have taken Beuhrle or Rollins as well (depending on the contracts they get).

    • cacavolante 4 years ago

      you couldn’t be more wrong. if he stays healthy he is going to be grossly underpaid. and if he doesnt, chances are he will still be well worth the contract. this is a great signing.

      • Nick Sossamon 4 years ago

        Because he’s been so healthy the past three seasons… we should all believe he will be the pinnacle of health for the next six years?  And even if he doesn’t stay healthy you’re saying he’s still worth $18MM a year?  Very interesting.

        • cacavolante 4 years ago

          so now according to dave cameron he has to be worth 19 war over the life of the contract to earn it. imo it would take a miracle for that not to happen, so actually now im saying he’s DEFINITELY worth $18 mil a year.

      • rsanchez1 4 years ago

        There’s also the absent no-trade clause if he doesn’t stay healthy.

      • cubs223425 4 years ago

        Hah, this is only going to get worse.

        Reyes has one GREAT tool, his legs (his contact’s good as well, but you get the point). He keeps on having more and more of these leg injuries, and it’s going to make his running worse and worse. It’s tough to hurt a leg a billion times and get 100% production out of it.

        This also runs until he is 34. By ten, he’ll probably have 5-10 more leg-related DL stints on the books, and he’ll probably be lucky to make it into 130 games (which he didn’t this season) and steal 35 bases.

        There is a chance this works out, but they paid market value for a guy with BIG injury risks. He’ll be great when he’s on the field, but we just don’t know how frequently he really will be.

        Someone asked be how bad of a failure his contract will be. I turned to J.D. Drew. It wasn’t a horrid contract, but it was probably something of a noticeable yet minor overpay. He’ll probably earn his keep in his short (from DL stints) seasons for the first half of the contract, maybe 4 years. For the last two, I think it’s going to be pretty iffy, where he’s worth about $10 million and making about $20 million.

  2. New Mlb TR Logo. I kind of like it.

    • Infield Fly 4 years ago

      It’s the logo MLBTR uses just for the Winter Meetings. They do it every year.

      Anyway…it’s on now!!

  3. tacko 4 years ago

    Really hope this turns into the 2012 Jayson Werth signing now. 

    • The_BiRDS 4 years ago

      MLB reports “Marlins president say Jose Reyes must cut his hair, he must follow the rules” haha

  4. WisBrave 4 years ago

    This years Jason Werth?

    •  His name should have changed from “Werth” to “Worth” after that contract.  Good timely misspelling there…

  5. YES! Predicted that one correctly!! In your face, Tim Dierkes!! The Brewers?? Puh-leez… 

    • tigers22 4 years ago

      good for you man.  you can go ahead and be a little less of a d-bag about it though…

      • In case you couldn’t tell, I was JOKING!! Being as how I’ve only picked 4 right myself so far, it’s not like I can seriously throw it in anyone’s face, anyway… 

  6. TheBigStapler 4 years ago

    It’s really hard to feel good about the state of the Mets right now.

    • NYBravosFan10 4 years ago

      all part of the rebuilding process…I hate to say it but David Wright might be next :(

      • guydavis 4 years ago

        I don’t hope so but I can see it being beneficial to the teams future

        • NYBravosFan10 4 years ago

          It’s tough, it really is. Trust me, I KNOW.

      • coolstorybro222 4 years ago

        yeah he’s coming to the braves. I know it. Chipper’s on the out.

    • Hey, look on the bright side……………….………………….. yeah i couldn’t think of one either.

    • As a Braves/Rays I feel great about the state of the Mets….now if the Yankees would just hurry up and get ancient..

  7. Dylan 4 years ago

    Dream Team!

    • bravesdude 4 years ago

      Dream team ? There are still (at this point) quite a few teams in the majors that are considerably better .

      • I’m really starting to become annoyed with your hate.

        • bravesdude 4 years ago

          Who’s hating ? I was just stating the obvious .

          • wait_HOWmanyrings 4 years ago

            YO! all you haterz need to back up out my FACE!

      • The starting pitching still needs to improve.

      • Dylan 4 years ago

        I was kidding. I’m a Phillies (and, of course, an Eagles fan). I was hoping we would call them a Dream Team so that they would horribly choke and be the laughing stock of the league (like the Eagles)

        • bravesdude 4 years ago

          It could still happen .

        • rsanchez1 4 years ago

          Or like the Braves and Red Sox.

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            We’ve never been called the dream team . We could have been called that during that string of 14 straight division titles though . But I think we were a little more humble than that .

          • 14 dicision titles, 1 WS. Not exactly worth of the dream team. I would tend to think of that as more of a nightmare

          • rsanchez1 4 years ago

            Yes, but both teams did horribly choke last season.

    • Marlins? the dream team??  trying to shake the phillies 4 aces curse are we?

      • Dylan 4 years ago

        There’s a curse?

      • cubs223425 4 years ago

        Well, one down (Oswalt), haha. And Howard. I still say ATL and PHI beat the Marlins, and I wouldnt’ be surprised if the Nats pull it off as well.

    • rsanchez1 4 years ago

      The Marlins are still missing a lot of pieces to be called a dream team.

  8. $1639604 4 years ago

    😮

  9. diehardmets 4 years ago

    So long to my favorite Met. I don’t blame you for jumping ship in all honesty. Instead, I will focus my intense hatred and dislike towards the Wilpons for ruining something that could have been great. 

    • guydavis 4 years ago

      Try Omar Minaya

    • icedrake523 4 years ago

      6 years of DL stints would have been great?

    • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

      alderson deserves some criticism here as you guys end up with just a supp. pick and a second rounder to show for your superstar shortstop. could have gotten much, much more

  10. As a Braves fan all I can say is good for the Fish, hope they didn’t overpay, now hope my Braves can get a LF and SS. Lets go Bravos

    • I imagine the Braves aren’t going for Rollins, right?

      • bravesdude 4 years ago

        No . Wren has already stated that he is comfortable with Pastornicky starting the season at SS . They will be , I’m assuming , looking to land a LFer through a trade and possibly a UT guy if Prado is traded .

        • cubs223425 4 years ago

          Psst…I hear you guys don’t like Prado. We’ll give you Soriano and a truck of cash…TAKE THE DEAL!

          Seriously, I’d like to see Prado playing 3B, seeing as it’s DeWitt or Baker otherwise.

    • rsanchez1 4 years ago

      If you’d like the Marlins have a spare shortstop lying around. I’d love to see how he works with Fredi Gonzalez.

  11. Louie Schuth 4 years ago

    Sounds like Crawford of last year.

    • andrewyf 4 years ago

      Except he’s younger, has a higher offensive ceiling, and plays a much more valuable defensive position. He’s also paid less and for one less year.

      • FunkyTime 4 years ago

        Seriously.  People be crazy.

        I thought the Werth and Crawford deals were horrible as soon as they were signed. This one isn’t.

        • bravesdude 4 years ago

          Really good player . But a bit much of an overpay to get him .

  12. Your comments are welcome. Haters included. 

    • shysox 4 years ago

      If I had a dollar for every time you said “hater” I’d probably be a millionaire.

      • NYBravosFan10 4 years ago

        all the Marlins fans are going to start flooding this website so get used to it.

        • flickadave 4 years ago

          All 3 of them? At the same time?

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            I’ve counted 5 so far . But you were close .

          • flickadave 4 years ago

            See? Reyes has already almost doubled their fanbase!

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            LOL . Now lets see if he can double their attendance for next year which would almost be a sellout .

          • if we did get to 10 it would be like a braves playoff game, empty in the stands :)

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            You do realize that the Braves averaged over 30,000 a game compared to the 19,000 that the Marlins averaged . Thats 11,000 more a game which would equal almost 90,000 over a year at 80 to 81 games . HUGE difference .

          • BluMule 4 years ago

            Actually its 891000

          • WNYMetsfan03 4 years ago

            I lold

          • wadecounty561 4 years ago

            oh damn another attendance joke, is this carlos mencias account? so original. 

          • Your picture is out of date.

          • Its a classic and something classic never goes out of style

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            Well , when you are watching a game and see almost 50 or so people in the stands and half of those are rooting for the other team , you kinda have to joke about it .

          • wadecounty561 4 years ago

            yeah it was hilarious the first 600000 times we heard it though.

          • wait_HOWmanyrings 4 years ago

            actually, if i was a marlins fan i would be quite offended after hearing a joke 600000 times

          • ur clearly just a baseball fan and know nothing about the actual game.. jose reyes is single handedly better than any player on the braves.. just saying

      • Zuidvogels 4 years ago

        If you said “each and everytime”, you might be a millionaire.

        • shysox 4 years ago

          He’s said it at least 5 times in other posts. I guarantee it.

    • bravesdude 4 years ago

      I’m not ‘hating’ . Reyes is a good player . BUT , he has had health issue over the last 3 years . I think the Marlins could have had him cheaper .

  13. JP27 4 years ago

    the soap oprea with Reyes is over but now lets see about HanRam

  14. arod188 4 years ago

    Well here is Jayson Werth v.2. I know the fish wanted to make a splash with the new stadium and team name but this is pushing it a little

    • cacavolante 4 years ago

      im so tired of this jayson werth crap. these 2 guys arent even in the same universe. i dont know if this is going to end up being a bad contract but jose reyes is a much better baseball player than jayson werth.

      • bravesdude 4 years ago

        It’s really hard to compare the two considering that they play different positions . But if you like WAR as an advanced stat .

        Reyes (this year(contract year))5.8
        Werth (2 years ago(contract year))5.2

        So for the positions that they play in their respective contract years , they are not very far apart . One offers a little more to the game than the other and vice versa .

        • NatsTown 4 years ago

          this

        • cacavolante 4 years ago

          who said anything about contract years? you cherry picked werth’s ONE 5+ war season (which happened to be his contract year). reyes has had either 4 or 5 i think. he has a much better track record. comparing the 2 is stupid. 

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            Players always seem to play better during their contract year . Thats why I was using it for comparison . Reyes year last year was arguably his best year to date . Thats one reason I decided to use them .

          • No it wasn’t. Look at his WAR’s from 2006-2008 bro. 

        • cacavolante 4 years ago

          oh and reyes is 4 years younger and clearly in his prime. but im sure that doesnt count either.

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            Oh and he has been injured each of the last 3 years and has not played more than 133 games in one season during that time . But I guess that doesn’t count either .

          • cacavolante 4 years ago

            great, that’s another way he is not at all like jayson werth. thanks for helping make my point. jose reyes and his contract are not at all like jayson werth and his contract in any way…

    • rsanchez1 4 years ago

      Difference was Jayson Werth had garbage surrounding him in DC. The team was pretty much Werth and Ryan Zimmerman. 

      • cacavolante 4 years ago

        i guess you’re right. i wasnt taking into account the lineup protection provided by jason bay, angel pagan, justin turner, david wright (im sorry i honestly cant think of another mets hitter). but they were much better than the nats…

  15. Thank you Loria and Co for finally holding up your end of the deal…see ya in April, May, June, July, August, September, and seemingly October too. 

    -Life long Marlins Fan.

    • boraswannabe 4 years ago

      Life long? Certainly a long time!

    • WisBrave 4 years ago

      Don’t thank Loria yet. He’s all about the money and himself. He’ll run the team in the ground to make a profit or get his way.

    • NYBravosFan10 4 years ago

      life long? How was ur 18th birthday this past year? Bet it was a rockin’ good time

    • bravesdude 4 years ago

      Well they will at least see you from April to September . You could always invite them to your house in October just to say they saw you . Matbe you can even watch the playoffs together . Ooh ooh , maybe even invite Reyes too .

      • You invite Wren to your house this past October? 

        • bravesdude 4 years ago

          I tried but he was busy looking down at the basement of the NL East to find the Marlins somewhere .

          I can do this all day guy . I’m preparing myself to get ripped over some of our signings too . You should do the same .

    • Loria is a criminal only out for himself. Don’t thank him yet, until he has a chance to trade Reyes for nothing next winter. 

    • Did you just say seemingly October too for the Marlins? I guess you’d be right though considering the season ends on October 3rd.  

  16. What’s gonna happen to Hanley now?

  17. Dermick 4 years ago

    He’ll be traded in a year or two.

  18. Karkat 4 years ago

    *grabs some popcorn for the Hanley Ramirez media fallout*

    • Brace yourselves……..

    • EarlyMorningBoxscore 4 years ago

      Well, you’ll be waiting for a long time. Hanley said he’d move to third base if they signed Reyes. 

      • Karkat 4 years ago

        Aww, really? What happened to his no-way-am-I-switching-positions attitude? Ozzie get to him?

        • EarlyMorningBoxscore 4 years ago

          Apparently Hanley and Reyes are good friends. Either Hanley is one of Jose’s kids godfather or vice versa I can’t remember which. That probably played into it. 

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            Didn’t Hanley just go public a week or so ago and tell the media that HE is the Marlins SS ?

          • A week ago, he WAS the Marlins SS

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            That was the point I was trying to make . He wanted to be the SS this year . He may be friends with Reyes like someone else posted , but all signs are saying that he is not happy about having to move to another position .

        • They sat Hanley in a small room and played Ozzie’s press conferences over and over until he cracked and agreed to move to 3B.

        •  FInd me that article that says word for word “no-way-am-I-switching-positions” and ill send you $100.00.

          • Karkat 4 years ago

            Try not to be so literal, friend 😉

        • JM 4 years ago

          He’s really good friends with Reyes and wants to win.

      • lefty177 4 years ago

        He did? I could be wrong but I thought over a month ago I saw on here Hanley saying he wouldn’t, I don’t feel like finding the link though, I also could have seen will not instead of will

  19. cubs223425 4 years ago

    I don’t get it. They piss off Ramirez (though for a decent cause) and pay money they don’t even know they have for a guy with a long injury history.

  20. Stuart 4 years ago

    I heard something about Hanley to CF but I highly doubt that. Probably 3B.

  21. bluejayspwn 4 years ago

    Hanley now moves to 3rd

  22. Blue387 4 years ago

    This is a one crappy Christmas present.

    • NYBravosFan10 4 years ago

      I think in the long run you’ll look back on it satisfied

      • Blue387 4 years ago

        Most prospects don’t pan out.

        • Joveoak 4 years ago

          For once, I have to agree with the Braves fan but not for the prospects (on which I agree with you). 

    • bravesdude 4 years ago

      One day soon , you could be thanking the Marlins for taking him off your teams hands .

  23. arod188 4 years ago

     Well ladies and gentlemen here is Jayson Werth v.2. I know the fish wanted to make a big splash heading into the new stadium with the new team name as well but this is pushing it. Unnecessary to go this high with the offer until your competition actually makes itself competition with an offer.

  24. tigers22 4 years ago

    it’s nice to see the Marlins being aggressive in the market

  25. Now that they’ve secured Reyes, I’m expecting some big things this week at the Winter meetings. Let’s see what SP’s land in South Florida since that is their next big need. 

    • bravesdude 4 years ago

      How much more cap room do they have ? Not be sarcastic . Just wanting an honest answer out of curiousity .

      • Last year was $58 million. They are looking to bump it up to the $90 million range. 

        • bravesdude 4 years ago

          Ok . After signing Reyes , how much more money do they have left . How many more moves can they actually make ?

          • I’d say 12-14 million. Not a bad SP w/ that. 

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            Ok . So they can still land Buerhle or someone , but should be out of the race for Pujols or Fielder . I don’t know how this is gonna fair for the Marlins . Reyes is proned to injury too much and already had a good SS . They may have felt that they didn’t have a shot to lure Pujols or Fielder or even Wilson and just decided to settle for Reyes just to make sure to get one big name . I wonder if they would have been better off trying to get Fielder or Pujols and just move Gaby over to 3rd and keep Hanley at SS where he would be more comfortable . That lineup to me would’ve been a more productive one and a better draw at the ball park as well . I’m sure more facts will come out about all this later .

          •  Although the $90 millon dollar number was thrown out there, a lot has been said that Loria (the owner) would go above that number if he could land Pujols. How much over that number we don’t know. I don’t believe it will happen, but it would make things really interesting.

            It appears that Loria wants to go the route of the Miami Heat and make a BIG BIG splash.

      • wadecounty561 4 years ago

        Tim Kirkjian reported tonight that we’ll still have enough money to land Pujols.

        • bravesdude 4 years ago

          I think he actually said that they are still interested in Pujols . Wether or not that they have the money for him or Fielder or even Wilson , remains to be seen .

  26. Not an overpay if he stays healthy and consistently hits over .300. Both seem unlikely to me though.

    • cyberboo 4 years ago

      He will only make 18 Million each year over the next six years.  If he stays healthy and actually plays, Florida benefits.  If he pulls what he did in New York, 18M is a lot of money every year for a player that might take the field 80 times a year and nothing is guaranteed.  He could also turn into other players that drift through the first five years and then turns it on again in the last year, hoping to get another huge deal from someone else.  For the sake of Florida fans, I hope he plays every season like his contract year, or it becomes a huge overpay and liability on the field.

    • bravesdude 4 years ago

      He was overpaid . Marlins should have been a little more patient .

  27. I listen to a lot of Mets fans call in to SiriusXM MLB Network in the morning hoping and praying that Reyes stays.  Damn, it’s a crazy move.  I think Reyes will enjoy himself in Miami, I think the Marlins will enjoy what he brings to the table (if healthy) and I’m so glad that ONE of the big chips has fallen off the shelf before the Winter Meetings have even begun.  Can’t wait for Monday, but I won’t know what’s going on until I get out of my job interview :(.  Fate is cruel.

  28. arod188 4 years ago

    Think this signing put Wilson out of your reach money wise. I say Buehrle is next in line with either something like a 3/39 or a 4/40.

    • think buehrle is the best bet anyway.  

      • I’d rather have Buehrle than Wilson anyway, if I were the Marlins.  Buehrle has an amazingly consistent track record, and is also one of the best defenders at his position in the game right now.  Wilson’s only had 2 years as a starter, and only one as a remotely exceptional starter…not saying he won’t still be good, but IMO throwing a 5-year deal or whatever he’s asking for in his direction is too risky.  

        • arod188 4 years ago

          agreed. imo buehrle should be the next starter signed to a deal. he’s being completely undervalued. 11 straight years throwing over 200+ innings to go along with 3 straight GG and a career 3.83 ERA. 

  29. FunkyTime 4 years ago

    The Reyes and Werth deals aren’t comparable at all …

    Werth isn’t half the player that Reyes is, and his deal will end when he’s 39.  Reyes’ will end when he’s 34.

    • nats2012 4 years ago

      Werth will be 38 at the end of his deal. All Reyes has to do is stay healthy.

    • arod188 4 years ago

      yes but werth doesn’t rely on his legs to be the players the nats thought he was and what he was with the phillies. reyes runs wild on the base paths and stretches singles into doubles, doubles into triples, etc. once his legs go, reyes is not going to be nearly as valuable as he is when healthy, which that in itself will be questioned a lot. even though werth shouldn’t have gotten anywhere near his 7/126, it still is comparable to reyes because he has power and reyes doesnt and reyes and speed and he doesnt. 2 different players, 2 different situations, same overpaid contracts.

      • FunkyTime 4 years ago

        But why would you assume his legs will be gone by the time he’s 34?  They’re getting his prime years in this deal.

        • I’m assuming the hamstring injuries are most people’s biggest concern.

        • arod188 4 years ago

          i assume this because of his injury history. he’s already had surgery to repair a completely torn hamstring in one of his legs and he had a separate surgery to repair a tendon behind his knee.  last year he missed time as well. until he plays a full season or two in a row without going on the DL, i think itd be perfectly reasonable for anybody to assume his legs could/would be gone by 34.

          • FunkyTime 4 years ago

            I don’t.  And even if they were, that’d maybe be one year where he isn’t living up to his contract.  Much better than the back end of many of the huge free agent contracts signed in recent years.

          • arod188 4 years ago

            dont get me wrong, it was necessary for the marlins to make a big splash going into that new stadium with the awful attendance they had last year but i just think it may have saved them a lot of money had they waited to see if the brewer’s interest was legit and if their offer would have been competitive at all. nice signing and necessary big name FA signing, but overpaid nonetheless. who isnt today though i guess

          • FunkyTime 4 years ago

             Personally I wish my team matched this deal.  I never would’ve said that with Crawford or Werth.

        • Mario Saavedra 4 years ago

          Legs and speed wore out way sooner than power. that’s what he means, I couldn’t agree more.

        • bravesdude 4 years ago

          If he is in his prime , then the last three years (where he has missed 295 games) would be a huge concern . And some of those injuries had to do with his legs .

  30. sharenski 4 years ago

    Sure it’s an overpay but the Marlins just got much better. After they add Buherle or Wilson I think they have the potential to be a wild card team, with or without the addition of a playoff spot.

    • bravesdude 4 years ago

      They will be better . But I don’t know if I could call them a playoff team yet . They still have to deal with the Phillies , Braves , and Nats (who have not made many deals yet and are looking to getting better too) .

  31. guilbs88 4 years ago

    How does compensation work with this? Do the Mets get the Marlins’ second round pick? Or third round? This new CBA deal is messing me up. It should be the second round pick, yes? 

    • Amakiir 4 years ago

      Yeah, its the second round pick.  As messed up as that is.  Losing the teams BEST PLAYER for a second round pick.  Screw that nonsense.

      And if the Marlins sign a free agent rated higher than Reyes (almost all of them), the Mets get the third round pick, which is just insulting.

    • RidiculousPage 4 years ago

      This is kinda crazy, but I think I read on ESPN that due to some loophole and the timing of this signing relative to Bell, the Mets will only get the Marlins’ third rounder.

    • Third round. SD got our 2nd round pick when we signed Bell.

  32. MB923 4 years ago

    My first correct FA prediction lol

    • MaineSox 4 years ago

      I’m still one for whatever (I got Paps right).

      • shockey12 4 years ago

        I’m 0 for everything. Even Jeff Mathis can put up better numbers than that.

  33. They are going to need to move one of Bonifacio or Hanley I imagine…Braves, here’s your chance! 

    Decent signing, much better than Werth on the grounds that Reyes has two or three more solid years than Jason when the contracts were signed. Alright, injuries could take a toll but Reyes has proven he has gap power and speed year in and year out.

    • They are moving neither.

      Hanley is the current centerpiece of the team…

      Boni is just blooming finally and is under team control at a minimal cost and plays pretty much every position but pitcher and catcher

      • As can Infante. The Marlins would be idiots to hold onto three or four natural shortstops when there are quite a few teams looking for one, by holding onto all of them and accepting a rotation of Johnson/Sanchez/Nolasco/crap/crap and a bullpen that’s solid but clearly lacking a closer the Marlins find competent the fish are impeding their progress that could otherwise be sped up. If there’s any sense in the front office in Miami they’ll try and sign Buehrle and then go snatch up a Huston Street-type and a mid-rotation starter in the trade market using Bonifacio, Coughlan, and Dominguez and trading chips not to mention their young pitchers that are going to be of interest as well.

        And looking a Boni’s track record, I’d get rid of him while his stock is high personally.

    • bravesdude 4 years ago

      Lets see if he can actually play 130 games . Something he hasn’t done since 2008 .

      • did 2008 come after 2010?

        • bravesdude 4 years ago

          Not sure what you are asking . But was just stating that he hasn’t played more than 133 since 2008 when he actually played a close to full season . The 133 games that he did play came in 2010 .

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            He did play 159 games in 2008 which was his last full injury free season .

  34. shysox 4 years ago

    stop.

  35. such a sweet lineup now.  reyes, lomo, hanley, stanton, sanchez, infante, boni, buck, p

  36. shysox 4 years ago

    Buehrle would be a great signing for the Marlins.

  37. NYBravosFan10 4 years ago

    So what does their lineup look like now? This is assuming they don’t sign anymore position players.
    Reyes-SS
    Infante-2B
    Hanley-3B
    Stanton-RF
    Sanchez-1B
    Buck-C
    LoMo-LF
    Coghlan-CF
    That sound about right? I’m not usually good at this lol

    • Kyle Gautieri 4 years ago

      thats the opening day roster, but after the first month, LoMo will be in the minors, Hanley will be complaining while batting .230 and Reyes will have torn his hamstring

    • MaineSox 4 years ago

      Might be a little unconventional but I think I might actually bat LoMo second in that lineup.  He should be able to put up as good of an OBP as Infante generally does and is a better overall hitter, so I’d want him to get more ABs.  But I think in reality it will look pretty close to what you suggest, maybe swap LoMo and Buck.

    • Replace Coghlan for Bonifacio. Than Bump Infante down to the #8 spot. Coghlan will be depth off the bench. 

    • wadecounty561 4 years ago

      Bonifacio in CF, probably not Cogs.

    • If I had to guess:

      Reyes
      Bonifacio
      Hanley
      Stanton
      Sanchez
      Morrison
      Infante
      Buck

  38. northsfbay 4 years ago

    It doesn’t look like there are a lot of bidders this year. It would be a good year to go after big FA. Always remember that it is a big gamble. Crawford, Werth, Dunn, Figgins, etc. Developing your players and talking a chance on the player at a low price would be high reward little risk.

  39. farid rushdi 4 years ago

    Caveat: I am an avid Nationals fan and as such don’t much like the Marlins because of the way they pounded us over the last few years.

    That said, I don’t think this makes Miami that much better. That kind of contract makes sense for power hitters who can change the game with one swing, but not for speedy infielders who have had a tough time staying on the field the past few years.

    Bell and Reyes haven’t helped the Marlins re-leapfrog the Nats in the standings. However, sign C.J. Wilson or someone like him, and I’ll be worried.

    • I think you’re getting ahead of yourself a bit. Last year was the first time in a long time the Nats surpassed the Fish in the standings. They led the Fish by 8.5 games.

      But keep in mind the Fish had an injured Hanley and JJ missed most of the season.

      Enter 2012: The Marlins with a healthy Hanley and JJ, the addition of Reyes, plus a SP or two equals the same ‘ol routine for the Nats. Chasing the Marlins. 

      • NYBravosFan10 4 years ago

        chasing the Braves and Phillies

        • wadecounty561 4 years ago

          all you do is talk trash, we’ll see though.

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            Don’t allow yourself to be too optimistic just because your team has signed a player that makes your team a little better . Until proven otherwise , the Phillies , Braves and even the Nationals right now are the teams the Marlins have to pass to get to the division title or even the wild card . The Mets are the only team the Marlins don’t have to worry about .

          • Maybe if you click your heals and keep repeating that, it will be true. Just like in the Wizard of Oz. 

      • bravesdude 4 years ago

        All 3 of those guys were injured last year . Reyes has been injured each of the last 3 years . Hanley I think spent some time on the DL in 2010 also . I know he only played in 142 games . And Johnson also missed a few games in 2010 . I see a pattern here . If all 3 can stay healthy together , and thats a big if , it will be a miracle . And if not , it will probably be the same ole same ole from the Marlins .

  40. FunkyTime 4 years ago

    Even with the injury history, in 4 of the past 6 years his fWAR has been over 5.7 and his bWAR has been over 5.2.  According to Fangraphs his average value the past 6 years has been $19.7 mil, and that’s including a missed year and a typical down year following a major injury.  And he’s just entering his prime.

    Unlike many of the huge free agent deals in recent years, Reyes has the potential to be a bargain.

    • InLeylandWeTrust 4 years ago

      “Bargain” is kind of stretching it there…

      • FunkyTime 4 years ago

        Fangraphs seems to disagree, given that they’ve estimated his worth at $22-$29 mil in 4 of the past 6 seasons.

        It’s a risky contract, but if he stays reasonably healthy and keeps up his productivity he WILL be a bargain.

        • flickadave 4 years ago

          I think Fangraphs has Boras set the player’s worth. What was Pedro worth in his prime? $35 million a year? Come on…

  41. AceReno 4 years ago

    Wright and Pelfrey are the last players from the 06 team now :(

    • slider32 4 years ago

      The Wilpon’s need to sell this team. They have completely run this team into the ground. They are know a fifth place moneyball team.

      • tdw815 4 years ago

        I totally agree they need to sell the team. I will be burning all my mets apparell and will not buy tickets or watch them on television. They sat there and lied to us fans about Bernie and the money. Now we the fans will suffer for the next 6 years as Jose runs all over the Mets   

  42. guilbs88 4 years ago

    “The Padres received Miami’s second-round pick.” This is incorrect. The Padres receive a pick just before the Marlins’ second round pick. A pick “9A” as it were. The Marlins still have a pick there. The Mets should be receiving that pick unless there is something in this off-season’s compensation adjustments that I do not know. Either way this is incorrect reporting because the Padres did not receive a pick from the Marlins but rather a pick just before them. 

  43. slider32 4 years ago

    I had Reyes going to the Marlins, know they go out and get a good starting pitcher. This was a good way for a team to open a new stadium, the reverse happened with the Mets. It was nice to see a team actually make move when everyone doubted them.

  44. philliesfan136 4 years ago

    The NL East is going to be really interesting this season..

  45. Gurvir Nijjar 4 years ago

    The Fish going Ham ! LOL

  46. 55legend 4 years ago

    Team Chemistry is still a factor. Now you have two hotheads in Reyes and Ramirez. Good luck with that Florida. I mean, Miami. wtf is this basketball now?

  47. Marlins are Serious! Good Job Gentleman…

  48. coolstorybro222 4 years ago

    and the marlins management just made themselves look a little better than the mets.

  49. Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

    Cool

    So can the Braves have Hanley for A bench player and worthless bullpenner like the Uggla deal?

    • wadecounty561 4 years ago

      Nah, but we’ll take second place in the NL east for free.

      • bravesdude 4 years ago

        I think we are more worried about the Nationals than the Marlins right now . I like your optimism though .

      • Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

        Ok? Guess you’ll have to call Ruben Amaro Jr. about that one. Because the Braves will be in 1st next year.

        • wadecounty561 4 years ago

          I think we are more worried about the Phillies than the Braves right now . I like your optimism though .

    • bravesdude 4 years ago

      Matt Diaz (since he kills the fish) and Scott Proctor (we’d re-sign him just to trade him in the deal) .

      • Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

        Also, giving them Proctor means we have a good chance to beat them every time they use him against us. Would be a massive deal for us. And then if they payed off some of Hanleys contract… I’d loved them.

        • After the Winter Meetings are over, asking for Hanley to be on your team is going to be your only hope of beating them. 

  50. Sandy really botched this one. Although I don’t think they could have got a kings ransom by trading Reyes to a contender before the deadline last year, they definitely could have gotten more than a sandwich pick and a 3rd rounder. Who would have thought the Beltran trade would net the Mets a better return than what Reyes would….

    • Patrick the Pragmatist 4 years ago

      Not if the draft pick they get ends up being a superstar.

      • It’s pretty likely the Mets could have gotten an “A” prospect (probably along with some lesser ones) in return for Reyes at the deadline.

        Anything’s possible, but that’s a much safer bet than a sandwich pick and 3rd round pick.

        I think a big factor in not trading Reyes was believing they had a very realistic shot at resigning him.  If they knew they didn’t, I think they would have been much more readily shopping him.

  51. I’m devastated by this news, absolutely devastated he would actually leave the Mets.

    • bravesdude 4 years ago

      He just wanted to go from the team who was dead last in the division last year to the team who was next in line .

  52. this really means nothing if they don’t sign a pujol or fielder. i mean who is going to drive in reyes

  53. livestrong77nyyankz 4 years ago

    The Carl Crawford of this year? Yes, I think so.

  54. As much as I hate to see Reyes go, this is probably the 2nd best thing for their future. Best thing would be for the Wilpons to sell the team … for real

  55. Jose Reyes or not, this team will probably shut it down around the All Star Break like they do nearly every season.  Loria needs to do more if he wants to avoid that and if he wants to average more than 28 fans a game for attendance after the “newness” of the new stadium wears off (probably after the first month).

    • bravesdude 4 years ago

      I see them now lower than 4th in the division and no higher than 3rd . A miracle year would be 2nd in the division and a wild card spot .

    • Wilsonl 4 years ago

      Lmfao!!

  56.      I am no Reyes fan, but Hanley Ramirez is a terrible shortstop.

    • He got too big for the position. He’ll do fine at 3B

      • bravesdude 4 years ago

        Even though he would rather play SS ?

        • Cavman_Boland 4 years ago

          All this crap about where Hanley would rather play. He’s property of the team and will just have to play where they tell him. He’s be more effective defensively at 3B IMO as well.

          • bravesdude 4 years ago

            How does a player perform who is unhappy about his situation . I would guess , not up to his potential . If you think that he is gonna be thrilled to be moved to another position or play like his is happy to be there when he is clearly against it , then you are probably wrong . Just the fact that he said a while back that HE was the Marlins SS and the fact that he did not have a comment tonight when asked about the Reyes signing , should tell you something . A happy player plays up to his potential . One that is not , does not .

          • Cavman_Boland 4 years ago

            Come on! He’s a professional. If he can’t recognize that Reyes is a better defensive SS then there’s a problem. I don;t pretend to know him or know his attitude about winning or losing but if he’s not able to get over it Ozie won;t put up with him. These guys are professionals and when it comes down to it I’d like to think the majority of them are in it to win.

            Michael Young wasn’t happy with being DH but got over it. I bet Hanley will do the same.

          •  Ignore him. Bravesdude is just that. A HUGE Braves fan who is having difficulty dealing w/ the fact that the Marlins, a division rival, got a really good player. Take some time and read his posts. He is having some trouble dealing w/ this.

            Bravesdude, your a good guy but you gotta get over it.

  57. Sorry fellas.. Marlins are not going to be trading Ramirez….

  58. Opening Day lineup               Rotation                Bullpen               Closer
    Jose Reyes                       Josh Johnson            Mike Dunn           Heath Bell
    Emilo Bonifacio                  Mark Buehrle             Ryan Webb
    Hanley Ramirez                  Anibal Sanchez         Clay Hensley
    Gaby Sanchez                   Ricky Nolasco           Burk Badenhop
    Mike Stanton                    Wade Lablanc           Randy Choate
    Logan Morrison                                               Edward Mujica
    John Buck
    Omar Infante
    Josh Johnson

    Playoffs lego!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

       still really weak pitching to start talking playoffs.

      offense looks good though if hanram rebounds

    • BluMule 4 years ago

      Buehrle? When was he signed?

  59. The guy doesn’t deserve >100M contract. A Carl Crawford type player. I don’t like him ever since he bunted to get the batting title and got himself out of the game. I wouldn’t want that kind of a player in my clubhouse. Bad example to the younger players. Bad bad bad.

    • bravesdude 4 years ago

      He cares too much about himself and not enough about everyone else (his teammates) . It sounds like he didn’t even want to wait to see what the Mets would offer as a counter to the Marlins . And that whole deal that he pulled with the batting title this year when he pulled himself out of the game , cowardly . He should have to his at bats like a pro and let fate decide what happens .

  60. Jamie Sayer 4 years ago

    Sucks for the Mets…

  61. grownice 4 years ago

    I’m happy for the Marlins , i hope Reyes has a great tenure with them  , they needed something after those new uniforms…( although i do kinda like the orange one )

  62. rsanchez1 4 years ago

    Poor Mutts, when the Marlins aren’t snatching a post-season spot from them, they’re snatching their best players.

    Also, Fish are crazy if they’re thinking about dealing Nolasco. If they sign BOTH Buehrle AND Wilson, then yes, but they won’t have too deep of a rotation if all they have is JJ, Buehrle/Wilson, Sanchez, others.

  63. Cal did fine with the switch, Hanley should too…

    • bravesdude 4 years ago

      Cal was a true pro . Hanley has shown he has great potential but at times lacks that pro attitude for whatever reason .

  64. Leonard Washington 4 years ago

    Marlins got a ton of potential on offense with Lomo, Stanton, a rebounding Hanley, Sanchez, Coughlan, and now Reyes. This could be the year they come up big if they can add one more above average pitcher.

  65. PaganIdolCow 4 years ago

    I like the deal for the Marlins. They had to overpay and did, but they got a really good player. It isn’t as if Jose Reyes cannot earn a good chunk of that contract. The weather will be nice and warm for him, too. That’s better for the legs.

  66. bayareabeast 4 years ago

    marlins have gained my respect..i admit i thought itd be more likely to see barry bonds come out of retirement then see the fish sign someone

  67. Tony DiQuattro 4 years ago

    Time to spark up the Hanley trade burner

  68. nats2012 4 years ago

    Something FISHY is going on here.

  69. Whole_New_World 4 years ago

    Hmmmm…now we get to see the unhappy Hanley.

    This is going to be fun.

  70. SplitFingeredPujol 4 years ago

    I hope Ozzie puts forth an effort in 2012. He’s an incredible manager when he’s actually motivated to manage. His 2011 performance was pathetic. It was the single worst piece of managing I’ve ever witnessed, but I know he’s capable of better. He blew it on purpose. It was obvious to anybody watching that he wanted out. It’s this same immaturity that makes his Marlins’ employment especially hilarious. Loria is even worse than Ozzie, but the combination of the two is going to end in something epic. Can’t wait. 

  71. I hope the Marlins are well-versed on the prospect lists of the big market teams so that next off-season, they know who to target when they trade all these guys away. 

  72. BluMule 4 years ago

    Why is it a third round pick? Is their first protected? and even so I thought relievers didnt cost picks anymore…

    • Zuidvogels 4 years ago

      Yes their pick is protected. Bell was one of the RP that required giving up a pick.

  73. Zuidvogels 4 years ago

    Marlins continue with the most expensive publicity campaign ever…

    BTW this Disquis is the biggest pos ever(I know I’m not the first to complain), seriously, I have to log out and log back in everytime I want to post…

  74. MetsEventually 4 years ago

    My life sucks 

    • Zuidvogels 4 years ago

      Yes, being a Mets fan is awful right now…

      All the protest’s going on in the country it’s only a matter of time before Mets fans start a sit in outside the Citi

  75. anthony88 4 years ago

    I would like to know how an average 1000 in attendance per game can get you spending a 106MM deal. for all I know the owner won the lottery. if the marlins can do this why the orioles for example not?

  76. anthony88 4 years ago

    Also I hope they add a clause that states they will change that horrible jersey in those six years.

  77. Wrek305 4 years ago

    Reyes should move to third not Ramirez. Hanley is the better player. If I am not mistaken wasn’t it reported or at least rumored that Hanley said he would consider moving to 3rd is the Marlins tried to signed Reyes. Now that they have him Reyes should volunteer to move to third not Ramirez, not that Reyes will make any bit of difference the Phillies are still the team to beat with the exception of Papolbon as their new closer and he knows if he doesn’t live up to all Phillie Phan expectations he will be out of Philly with in 2 and half yrs.

  78. overpaid or not, the marlins needed jose reyes even though they had hanley.. jose reyes is arguably one of the best lead off hitters in baseball: scores runs, steals, hits for average, high OBP., and plays plus defense.. and jose reyes will just make hanley 10x better of a player since he now knows he’s not the only superstar on the marlins meaning he’s going to work just that much harder. PERFECT DEAL

  79. wait_HOWmanyrings 4 years ago

    All you mets fans always complain about Omar Minaya, but you guys got SCREWED by Alderson. First of all, because the mets aren’t going to compete for a few years it would be a bad idea to sign reyes. Therefore, there was no reason to keep him. Mets could have gotten an A level prospect and possibly more for reyes.

    Now, although the mets couldn’t have known that this would happen, they get a 3RD ROUND PICK. that is nothing.

    Also, if the mets were as devoted to reyes as they said they were, they would have topped this offer from the marlins

  80. Tko11 4 years ago

    Ok well the Mets clearly messed up here (not the first time and wont be the last). A third round pick as compensation is ridiculous, they should have been shopping him around last offseason…Their farm isnt great at all and no one there is really notable. The way I see it is they have to go after Darvish, it would bring the asian fans to the park, sort of like Shinjo back in the day. They have a pretty bad rotation too, I think its a good risk to take. Same thing goes with Cespedes. They have Duda in rf and Cespedes seems like a good fit to replace him. Not really sure if they would be willing to spend that much money on both of these guys but they have to do something. New York newspapers are already hinting at Darvish.

  81. That NTC is a giant red flag Loria is up to his old tricks again. Florida will be in the WS very soon, then dismantled very soon after. 

  82. “I still like the deal for the Marlins, as Reyes doesn’t have to be amazing or play 162 games a year to be worth $17.67MM annually.”

    So it’s totally OK if Reyes is average and plays 125 games a year? I mean he’s only getting paid $17 MILLION. Paying a guy that sort of chump change, one shouldn’t expect high expectations..

  83. For real though, good for Reyes and the Marlins.  Best of luck to them.

  84. chee1rs 4 years ago

    a great move

  85. Beatofficer 4 years ago

    He doesn’t really owe you anything to be honest.

  86. JM 4 years ago

    Pretty sure the Mets fans are the worst sports fans in the US.

  87. It all hinges on Josh Johnson staying healthy.

  88. NYBravosFan10 4 years ago

    …and reyes…and coghlan…and Hanley’s attitude…

  89. …and LoMo’s tweeting

  90. bravesdude 4 years ago

    I think that even if they do stay healthy , they will be fighting with the Nationals for 3rd in the division . But major injuries to any of the teams in the NL East would mean that its fair game for the lead .

  91. Coghlan will play off the bench. So no worries there. I can almost feel the tremors coming from the Braves fans. My keyboard is shaking.

    Gonna be a fun season in the NL EAst. 

  92. Coghlan doesn’t really matter to us anymore. 4th outfielder at this point.

  93. mikefichera 4 years ago

    more of a if your not with us your against us type of thing, he was my favorite met. im just having fun with it.

  94. NYBravosFan10 4 years ago

    three words…CUBS OUTSIDE WRIGLEY. Those people invade other stadiums like a plague of freakin locusts and NEVER SHUT UP. They’re rude, obnoxious, cheer their heads off for every strike their pitcher throws and get all snotty and bitter whenever something goes wrong. I sat in front of a few of them a few years ago and I almost told the people I was with to start thinking up ways to come up with bail money for me.

  95. Joveoak 4 years ago

    Hmm.  I guess going 100+ years without winning the World Series title does that to fans.  Hopefully, the Mets don’t end up like the Cubs.

  96. Gerod11 4 years ago

    what do you need bail money for?

  97. BC there is no way ur Braves come in less than second.

  98. NYBravosFan10 4 years ago

    That’s no excuse to act the way they do. Have you ever experienced them? If not, then hopefully you never have to.

  99. Joveoak 4 years ago

    No, I have not but I can only imagine a group of people complaining the way you describe it.

  100. LOL you desribed them perfectly. They visited Texas in 2009 and it was so annoying having them at the Ballpark. I only encountered one rude group of fans though.

  101. NYBravosFan10 4 years ago

    thanks for seeing reason

  102. bravesdude 4 years ago

    Now you are seeing things logically . Its nice to know you can use logic over fantasy where the Marlins would win the WS . The NL East is gonna be tough . The Marlins are gonna be a good team next year . The Phillies are going to be tough , as always . The Braves offense had a really bad year last and I don’t see those same players struggling again this year. The Nationals are a good team who are only gonna get better . The Mets …. well , I feel sorry for them now . But those other three teams , with the exception of the Phillies have yet to make any moves yet (except the Braves moving Lowe , thank god) and are going to be getting better also along with the Marlins . So you can’t expect that the Marlins are going to be the team to beat .

  103. NYBravosFan10 4 years ago

    ok that post proves you just shouldn’t say anything

  104. MaineSox 4 years ago

    I wonder what Hanley thinks of Reyes and if he cares about winning?

  105. Ok. I won’t say “anything”. Oops. I said it.

    Gonna be a great season watching the NL EAst. 

  106. Blue387 4 years ago

    Until recently, the Mets have been horrible at scouting, drafting and developing players. Wright and Reyes were two of the best players the farm system ever developed. Omar never went over-slot or the front office would dump talent away for peanuts; remember Duquette dumping Scott Kazmir?

    Sandy Alderson and Paul DePodesta will probably waste the third round pick on a safe college pitcher who will never reach AA.

  107. 55legend 4 years ago

    seriously, im a giants fan, we sold out ALL out home games on top of merchandise and still our brilliant GM says “There will be no surprises” this offseason T__T;; i don’t get sports

  108. flickadave 4 years ago

    I think it is all of the Yankee luxury tax and revenue sharing money the Marlins haven’t spent for the last 7 years. Miami Stadium… the “House that Jeter Built”.

  109. MLBTR actually had a post recently regarding the Marlins and how they are being investigated by the SEC regarding the construction of their new stadium. Its actually a very interesting read. Apparently the Marlins are only on the hook for about 20% of all construction costs that includes everything and its mother.

  110. bravesdude 4 years ago

    Luther Campbell ?

  111. barry zito.

  112. baybombers 4 years ago

    yeah barry zito, aaron rowand, aubrey huff…

  113. Wilsonl 4 years ago

    I hate Sabean too.

  114. bravesdude 4 years ago

    I have some ducktape if you would like to secure it .

  115. rsanchez1 4 years ago

    There was no need to get free agents to strike fear into the Braves. Remember, they still have Fredi (I’ll-mess-up-a-postseason-spot-whichever-way-I-can) Gonzalez.

  116. bravesdude 4 years ago

    The Nationals are going to be getting better also . Other than the Phillies , the Braves and Nats have yet to do anything yet to improve their ballclubs . Even though the Marlins just got a little better , they will be getting better also .

  117. grownice 4 years ago

     Ya but its really really expensive glass!

  118. baybombers 4 years ago

    well thats how internet chat/comment boards usually are for any sports topic

  119. bravesdude 4 years ago

    Really guy ? Really ? It’s not like all the other teams are all respected either . Every team gets it’s fair share of trash talking . Be a real fan and lash back . Thats all part of being a fan of your team or of any team . To have fun and pick on each other for overpaying or signing a bad deal . Don’t be so bitter cause your team hasn’t experienced winning much of late . See how that works ?

  120. It will be the phillies division still due to their staff, but I think the braves and fish will be fighting for the wild card. It should be interesting and a fun year.

    It is just nice to be in the news at this time of year for something other then trading away a player.

  121. rsanchez1 4 years ago

    You blame it on the offense? Did they forget you play 162 games in an MLB season and not 130?

    It wasn’t the offense that was struggling. As long as the Braves have Fredi Gonzalez as the manager, they can kiss any postseason hopes goodbye, much less WS hopes.

    You should be thanking God when the Braves finally get rid of Fredi. I know I was when that dead weight skipped town.

  122. bravesdude 4 years ago

    6 years @ $100 mill+ glass ?

  123. Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

    Jose Reyes was made the Tiffany Company. That’s why he was so expensive. Me personally, I wouldn’t want that investment getting broken out on the field.

  124. bravesdude 4 years ago

    Considering that we had one of the best pitching staffs in baseball (with the exception of Lowe , Proctor , and Linebrink ) , and one the worst offenses in baseball , if we would been able to score a few more runs here and there we would be talking about someone else as the WS champs other than the Cardinals . Not saying it would be the Braves . But it wouldn’t have been the Cards . We were around the top in Hr’s but were average if not below in all other parts of the offense .

  125. bravesdude 4 years ago

    The fish are definitely a better team this year than last year . But the Braves will be a much better team this year than last year also . We haven’t even added anybody yet and we are already a better team than last year just from getting rid of Lowe . And I still think most of our hitters (Prado if he’s not traded , Heyward , Uggla ) will be better this season than last .

  126. Bryce 4 years ago

    Pretty solid if you ask me…don’t forget Heath bell closing things down!

  127. BluMule 4 years ago

    Thats actually scary, now imagine if they were in the AL and add a big bat DH….

    question about Stanton, is his defence bad? And is it bad enough that in the AL he would hit DH?

  128. thats a scary lineup to face i just think the marlins need to improve there staff and they could beat the braves for second place

  129. wadecounty561 4 years ago

    I know all about trash talking and taking my fair share as a Heat fan, it’s only braves fans that trash talk. you guys are probably pretty worried about your position in the standings next season and trying to recuperate from last seasons meltdown. i understand.

  130. BluMule 4 years ago

    Government

  131. they got off of one of the worst leasing contracts in history which attributes to much of the money they have now to spend and all the revenue shares, etc.

  132. LifelongMets 4 years ago

    Tax Payers payed for 80% of that stadium they built

  133. A LOT of worry about this move. And for good reason. The Fish are not done shopping yet. If THIS moves shakes them, brace yourself for what’s to come by the end of the Winter meetings.

    I always dreamed about what the team would look like if Larry Beinfest got some money to run this team. He is a very smart man.  This team should be Very, Very good this season.

  134. Speaking about players that are made of glass, how is Jason Heyward doing?

  135. Funny you say this. Because, although the Fish have gotten remarkably better, they’re not done yet. They will get even better by next week.

    I am gonna love to hear your tune then.

    “oh, Buehrle doesn’t guarantee anthing…”
    “CJ Wilson, ain’t doesn’t guarantee anything…”
    “Pujols doesn’t make them better..”

    yada, yada, yada…. We’re coming for you.

  136. anthony88 4 years ago

    I will wait for pujols to say that. lol 

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