Athletics Agree To Sign Bartolo Colon

The Athletics and Bartolo Colon have agreed to a one-year contract, the team announced. MLB.com's Joey Nowak reports that the deal is worth nearly $2MM and could include a signing bonus. The Diamondbacks had shown interest in Colon recently, and the Yankees indicated a willingness to re-sign him earlier this winter.

A client of Adam Katz at Wasserman Media Group, Bartolo resurrected his career with New York in 2011, pitching to a 4.00 ERA with 7.4 K/9 and 2.2 BB/9 in 164 1/3 innings after signing a minor league contract. The 38-year-old Colon did not pitch in MLB in 2010, and has been treated with stem cells from his bone marrow and fat to repair tears in his elbow and rotator cuff. He was regularly hitting 94-96 with his fastball last year before fading down the stretch.

Having traded both Gio Gonzalez and Trevor Cahill this offseason, the Athletics are looking at Colon as a stopgap for a rotation that will also include Brandon McCarthy, and possibly a healthy Dallas Braden. Brett Anderson will be out until midseason due to Tommy John surgery, though the recently acquired Jarrod Parker, Tom Milone, and Brad Peacock will all make their case for a starting spot in Spring Training.

USA Today's Bob Nightengale first reported that Colon had agreed to a deal with an unknown team, then later added details along with CBSSports.com's Jon Heyman (all Twitter links). ESPN's Jayson Stark first reported the Athletics' involvement.


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  1. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    With the recent negotiations, i’m guessing a’s

    • PWNdroia 3 years ago

      Yeah, I’d have to agree,

      • James Attwood 3 years ago

        I’d be pretty surprised if the contract is over $3MM, maybe 3.5 tops if it takes that last .5 to convince him to accept over a rival.

  2. TVGugs 3 years ago

    So we can add Bartolo to the already impressive Mystery Team starting rotation?

  3. Ian_Smell 3 years ago

    The twist? It’s not an MLB team. Directed by M. Night Shyamalan.

  4. Phillies_Aces35 3 years ago

    I’d assume Oakland.

  5. nathanalext 3 years ago

    Uhh.. Yeah.

  6. jb1996 3 years ago

    I’d think either Arizona or Oakland even though i wouldn’t mind him in Pittsburgh

  7. Kevin C 3 years ago

    Plz not the D’backs

  8. mattinglyfan 3 years ago

    And Howard Medgal’s Mystery Team signs its first player…

  9. MNTwins12 3 years ago

    The Twins have often been the mystery team this offseason.

  10. Michael Natelli 3 years ago

    Hope it’s not Oakland. Big waste to put a decent pitcher on that team.

    • Snoochies8 3 years ago

      why? he could potentially improve his stock even more and then be dealt to a contending team, what’s the waste in that?

      • letsgogiants 3 years ago

        Plus pitching in the Colosseum will help his numbers dramatically against pitching at Yankee Stadium. Though his win-loss record probably won’t hold well…  

        • tdot32 3 years ago

          aren’t they moving to a different stadium though?

          • flickadave 3 years ago

            Not for years. I would be surprised if Colon is even still pitching at all when the A’s move

          • letsgogiants 3 years ago

            Yeah I’m pretty sure no matter what, this would only be a one year thing.

          • flickadave 3 years ago

            Not for years. I would be surprised if Colon is even still pitching at all when the A’s move

      • letsgogiants 3 years ago

        Plus pitching in the Colosseum will help his numbers dramatically against pitching at Yankee Stadium. Though his win-loss record probably won’t hold well…  

  11. Yankees.. he just wants another ring at this point. Things happen in threes.. Pineda, Kuroda and Colon.

    • tiger313 3 years ago

      pineda, kuroda, colon, garcia, cc, aj, nova, hughes……

    • Justin Lindsay 3 years ago

      If he want’s another ring he should sign with Boston.

      • Matt 3 years ago

        Arizona

        • Why would he do that? Best case scenario AZ has another fluke season and is slaughtered again in the first round sounds fun.  I don’t think stem cell dough boy wants to play in a furnace of a stadium thats always empty especially on a team that isn’t winning anything in a garbage meth infested place like arizona.

          • stl_cards16 3 years ago

            Slaughtered in the first round again? They went to extra innings in Game 5! They were one hit away from being in the NLCS.

            Just because a team makes the playoffs that you didn’t expect doesn’t make it a fluke. The D-Backs are a team that’s going to be tough for years to come.

          • melonis_rex 3 years ago

            The DBacks play in the NL West. Not the NL East or AL West or AL East. They can beat the Giants. 

      • Why? They won’t even be in the playoffs.

      • slider32 3 years ago

        Are we talking onion rings!

    • letsgogiants 3 years ago

      The Yankee already have too many arms at this point as they have Garcia, Hughes, and Burnett all vying for the #5 spot in the rotation. With Colon being signed, what would you do with all three of those arms?

      • asdf asdf 3 years ago

        hilarious that the last 2 years, yanks saw Hughes and AJ as their #2 at some point.  now they gotta duke it out for a 5th slot. 

        • letsgogiants 3 years ago

          Hahaha yeah. What I think will happen is, barring any injuries to the starters, that Garcia wins the #5 spot in the rotation, while Hughes gets moved to the bullpen where he has had success from in the past and Burnett either also gets moved to the bullpen or just released. I think, for guys like Burnett and Zito, that this will be their last spring training to prove to their teams that they can still be effective and not just former shells of what they used to be. Given that both the Giants and Yankees now have strong pitching depth,  I wouldn’t be surprised to see either being released.

  12. Doesn’t it seem like there are obligatory “Colonoscopy” jokes to make? 

  13. Pecos_Drifter 3 years ago

    Nippon Ham Fighters

    • Shawnthemon 3 years ago

      before all the comments got erased, this was my joke, so I shall like it.

  14. Haha YES!! ^^

  15. Justin Lindsay 3 years ago

    That mystery team… They struck again.

  16. Disgustedfan 3 years ago

    I guess since the A’s have a bunch of unknown players that makes them the unknown team

    • Chioakcisco 3 years ago

      As an A’s fan, I approve of this joke 100%. Completely true lol.

  17. Not sure how dependable this source is.

    Scott Swaim @MLBInsideNews 20m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Sources: #Diamondbacks sign Bartolo Colon to 1 year deal.

    • James Attwood 3 years ago

      If it’s true it’s being kept quiet here in the desert. Local coverage hasn’t breathed a word of a Colon signing. It might have happened, but no one seems to be picking up on it yet.

    • cacavolante 3 years ago

      god, this guy swaim is awful. has he ever been right about anything?

    • Too Many Idiots 3 years ago

      Guy has a horrible track record regardless of what he says in his bio.  Best thing you can do is unfollow him.

  18. Not sure how dependable this source is.

    Scott Swaim @MLBInsideNews 20m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Sources: #Diamondbacks sign Bartolo Colon to 1 year deal.

  19. Matt Talbert 3 years ago

    It is from Team “I love Lard”– The team is as follows:
    An unknown team has stepped forward and signed and traded for the following players.
    At
    Catcher:  Jose Molina
    DH:  David Ortiz
    3B:  Miguel Cabrera
    2b:  Ronnie Belliard
    1b:  Prince Fielder
    SS:  Troy Tulowitzki
    LF:  Adam Dunn
    CF:  Carlos Lee
    RF:  Lance Berkman
    SP:  CC Sabathia, Matt Cain, John Lackey, Carlos Zambrano, Bartolo Colon
    RP:  Joba Chamberlain, Todd Coffey, Bobby Jenks, Jonathan Broxton
    CP:  Heath Belll

    Bench:
    C:  Miguel Olivo
    1b  Ryan Howard
    PH/1b/OF:  Matt Stairs
    3b/1b/SS/OF Pablo Sandoval

    Pretty solid team eh.  Heh.

    • Lookouts400 3 years ago

      Sure, pretty solid team, except for no lefties in the pen and three statues in the OF.  We need to find two fat lefties to round out the pen and a fat CF to help the defense.

      • Joe 3 years ago

        Call Griffey Jr. Out of retirement? He’s put on a few pounds! or Austin Kearns!

      • Philip Marlowe 3 years ago

        George Sherrill’s a big dude. There’s your lefty.

    • MNTwins12 3 years ago

      Don’t forget about Matt Capps!

  20. GoGreen_GoSoylentGreen 3 years ago

    The Chico Outlaws?…I hear they’re willing to spend big on a free agent of Colon’s caliber…

    • corey23 3 years ago

      rip chico heat, jose killed you. nice chico reference though.

  21. anthony88 3 years ago

    it’s the same team that signed Kenny Powers when he moved to mexico lol

  22. Joe 3 years ago

    Why do i have this weird feeling, that the reds have signed him for a very small deal as insurance… 

  23. johnsmith4 3 years ago

    Clearly it is not the Los Angeles Angels.  If it was, it would be a “mystery team” instead of an “unknown team”.

  24. Tigers2012 3 years ago

    You know who doesn’t verify signings until physicals are complete…Mr Dombrowski and the Tigers.  He shouldn’t cost much, and they’ve discussed needing someone to take Penny’s spot.  Wouldn’t be a terrible signing….he faded at the end of 2011, so he could hold a spot until the young guys (Turner, Crosby, Smyly, Wilk, Below, Oliver) get a little more early season, low-pressure seasoning at Toledo or Erie.  When he’s burned out by August, replace him in the rotation.

  25. If the A’s signed Bartolo, it’d better be a minor league contract.

    • James Attwood 3 years ago

      Unless OAK is Colon’s “preferred choice” of destination, there is absolutely no incentive/reason for him to sign a minor league contract. He already did that last year and proved himself admirably well.

      He’s a back-end (maybe a #3 on some weaker teams) starter with big league/flashes of brilliance stuff. On a staff like the A’s he’s #3 or 4 on opening day and then stays in the rotation based on health and performance.

      Playing in the Coli will only help Colon’s numbers. For a rebuilding team like the A’s, Colon is a perfect fit for what will likely be a steal of a price.

  26. James Attwood 3 years ago

    Bugger. Looks like the Dbacks are out. Maybe they’ll try a similar tactic and go after Harden then. Harden should come even cheaper anyway.

  27. mauerfan 3 years ago

    Probs Oakland.

  28. Onetimeaccount 3 years ago

    I’ve never felt the suspension like this over any other mediocre pitcher.

    • James Attwood 3 years ago

      Well, guys like Colon will do that though. 85% of the time he is going to be average, and 10% of the time he is going to stink. But the other 5% (at least for one start a year) he’s going to look brilliant. On top of that, wherever he is going, he’s going to be going cheap.

    • Yeah, me too.

  29. Hope its not the Jays. I htink they should take a flyer on Harden though even if just for moving him to the bullpen at some point. 

  30. OaklandFan22 3 years ago

    Great its the A’s.

  31. WAY TO GO DONUT MAN!!!

  32. sdsny 3 years ago

    If I’m the A’s, I save the money.  The team is headed for a move, whether it be to San Jose or wherever.  Pick up some pieces here and there, and Colon is not a bad addition to fill out the roster.  But to shell out the money for guys like Oswalt right now isn’t a good idea.  The A’s were last in average attendance last season and they’ve been last or next to last the previous 2 seasons.

  33. Disgustedfan 3 years ago

    Even though the A’s arent going anywhere in 2012 this is a good sign because somebody has to eat innings until peacock and parker arrive. And judging by his weight he should excel at that.

    • James Attwood 3 years ago

      I’d be surprised if he is holding a spot down for Parker. If the A’s are comfortable with Parker getting MLB service time already, then there’s very little reason not to have him in the rotation come opening day. He’s already MLB ready. It’s not even a big stretch to expect that he could start off as the team’s #3 right out the gate.

      It becomes a matter of how much more seasoned do the A’s want him to get and how soon do they want him to hit arbitration. They need to lock up their new talent pool for as long as they can in order to have a solid base to build from when they move.

      • I agree with your first paragraph.

        Say if Parker’s on the opening day roster and stays there, he’s the A’s property until 2017.  That’s six very long and hopefully, fruitful years.

        • James Attwood 3 years ago

          I would agree so long as by 2014 the A’s are finally spending money again. Even if Parker only pitches to “average performance” for his talent, he’s going to be expensive by A’s current standards come his arbitration years. It’s those arbitration years I would think they are trying to push back by one.

          If he’s in the Opening day rotation I would still expect McCarthy to be #1. But unless Braden remains healthy and can keep his head on straight, Parker could pretty quickly snag the ranking of #2 quality pitcher in the rotation.

          • I’m assuming we won’t be in Oakland in 2014/2015, so we’ll be certain to begin spending money even before then to get ourselves up to speed in our new stadium (how crazy does that sound?).

            By then I think we will have gotten over the mentality of saving money at all cost rather than getting the best available talent to meet our future needs.

            I don’t usually deal in dreams, but once in a while …..

  34. J.j. Miller 3 years ago

    Mccarthy
    Colon
    Braden
    Moscoso
    Outman
    Ross
    Milone
    Godfrey

    Some injury risk, but not a terrible rotation options to buy some time for Anderson’s mid season return and let Parker, Peacock, Gray get more time in minors.

    A’s should consider mccarthy’s trade value lowest FIP in AL in 2011, pretty cheap 1 yr deal, could be a decent target for teams

    • James Attwood 3 years ago

      Outman might get another shot, but I would be surprised to see Ross in the mix for a rotation spot come ST. He’s still got potential up-side, but he hit a wall last year. I wouldn’t be surprised if they re-tool him as a reliever or flip him along with Colon or someone else when trading for other prospects.

      McCarthy will be an interesting target come the deadline if he performs in 2012 like he did in 2011. It wouldn’t shock me terribly if at least 3 of the names on that list are all gone by the deadline.

      • I’m surprised Moscoso is not in demand.  At 28, he’s still young and his 3.38 ERA was very very good for a guy who started as an emergency starter and stayed all year.  Maybe this year.

        • James Attwood 3 years ago

          I think he will be in demand. I also suspect that he will be the “hardest” to pry away from the A’s come the trade deadline unless Braden just blows up and turns into a dominant pitcher.

          I expect that unless there are more trades or signings that the rotation on opening day will look something like:

          McCarthy
          Braden
          Moscoso
          Colon
          Peacock/Outman

          I’m not convinced the club has given up on Outman yet. I suspect he would be gone already if he wasn’t being considered a viable candidate.

          • I hope so, as that would mean he’s doing well for the A’s.  Moscoso also has hidden value, as he’s never been on the DL.

            Trading Breslow means we no longer have a bridge to the closer, whoever it may be. So Outman has a slot to fill too.
            Frankly I don’t see McCarthy as a number one pitcher, always facing the opponents ‘Ace’.  Same for Moscoso.  Braden is coming off a lost season so that leaves only Colon as an experienced leadoff pitcher.  Who knows?  Maybe he can pull it off.  For a while, perhaps?

            I see Outman as the lefty reliever until he can prove himself.

          • James Attwood 3 years ago

            I wouldn’t want McCarthy or Moscoso as my long-term ace vs ace guy either. But with the current rotation, McCarthy is probably the best bet.

            Moscoso is a bit of a wild card, I think he’s likely to nail down that solid #2 starter slot. There’s no reason to believe he won’t come exactly as advertised by his performance last season.

            Braden just needs to prove he can bounce back and not worry about anything else. He certainly does not have the mentality to go against other aces with any regularity.

            Colon has the advantage of having been an ace before. But if he pitches well he’ll be gone by the end of May. If he doesn’t, then he’s not the type you want going up against the Weavers and Wilsons and Hernandezes of the AL West.

            One more low cost vet to add to Colon would add a lot of insurance. A’s prospects need to get experience. But a rotation potentially filled with prospects is scary, and can be decimating to a prospect’s confidence.

            McCarthy and Colon are almost as good as gone already. Braden likely isn’t going anywhere, but if he has a good bounce-back year, he could still get inquiries. Moscoso will almost certainly be in demand, but he and Parker need to be put on the “near-to-untouchable” list.

          • I’m not saying throw all the prospects out there now, but at least Parker on the Opening Day roster.   Maybe Milone if he proves himself during ST.

            I can’t see getting another starter unless he’s willing to accept a minor league contract as a backup.  We have enough starters in-house now.

            Having McCarthy and Moscoso 1-2 in the rotation means having more losses than wins facing the best on other teams.  I’d rather see Colon (now that he’s signed) go no 1 and Braden no 2 (if healthy), with Mc and Moscoso following, and then Parker.

            What scares me the most of not having Bailey closing.  Now having a mediocre closer is sure to destroy most morale than anything else.

            So, who closes?

          • Rangersfan32 3 years ago

            You know your rotation is bad when McCarthy and Moscoso are at the front end of your rotation. They couldn’t even crack the Rangers rotation for long periods of time back before our rotation was any good.

    • Disgustedfan 3 years ago

      If McCarthy can stay healthy he will be the A’s lone all star representitive and best trade bait in 2012. I know he missed some time but when healthy he would always go 7 or 8 innings and was the A’s most consistant pitcher. I dont think last year was a fluke for him

      • Although I tend to agree with you on McCarthy, lets not get carried away.  He’s only 29-33 lifetime and his 2011 record for the A’s of 9-9 is his best year, so it’s not like he’s a reliable winner.  2011 was by far his best year after not pitching in 2010, so now he’s got to go out and prove it’s not a fluke.

        I hope not too.

        • vtadave 3 years ago

          Insert comment here about W/L record being a terrible way to evaluate pitchers

    • Listing Godfrey is really pushing it, don’t you think?

      • J.j. Miller 3 years ago

        pushing what lol..godfrey is mlb ready, had a good AAA season, 8th on the sp depth chart. he could be a serviceable back rotation, fill in type

  35. knowidyuh 3 years ago

    Moneyball is all about valuing the undervalued.  This off-season, teams are undervaluing obesity.

  36. Giorgi Almonte 3 years ago

    AL Cy Young -Bartolo Colon-

  37. InLeylandWeTrust 3 years ago

    Good signing

  38. SID PORTER 3 years ago

    Thanks Bart ……. you gave us everything you had in the tank last year.  You’ll be missed.

  39. Oswalt would’ve been nice, but ummm…  ok.  Its Colon time I guess

  40. Tim Cory 3 years ago

    Moscoso’s on the Rockies, unless there is some intricate trade-back happening that I’m not aware of. 

    Edit: Just realized this is an updated old article 😛

  41. Justin Lindsay 3 years ago

    Its called mlbtraderumors not mlbtradefacts last time I checked.

  42. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    exactly, this is a rumor, rumors don’t always need exact teams haha

  43. letsgogiants 3 years ago

    Colon actually signed with the UNKNOWN team. I dunno, the Unknown team is starting to build up but I don’t think they have a chance against the mystery team.

  44. JR_Tolls1 3 years ago

    Its the McDonalds softball team! Comes with a free Hamburger.

  45. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    wording is everything: Colon HAS signed with an unknown team (physical pending) is a LOT different than colon WILL sign with an unknown team

  46. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    because colon himself hasn’t said who the team is?

  47. asdf asdf 3 years ago

    if wording is everything, then he HASN’T signed with an unknown team because of the pending physical.  he has agreed to sign with an unknown team. 

  48. asdf asdf 3 years ago

    he should sell it wholesale like costco.  Arod will be first in line. 

  49. Why on earth would the marlins be interested? Their rotation is set.

  50. Rangersfan32 3 years ago

    So Colon is ping to influence them to be an overweight, middle of the road pitcher? I kid. Colon should be a solid bargain for any team that picks him up. He could end up having as good of a season as the Kuroda/Jackson/Oswalt types for a portion of the price.

  51. Corey Italiano 3 years ago

    Colon started off in the bullpen last year for the Yanks, so ya never know.

  52. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    …..?

  53. Morley C 3 years ago

    Mystery Team over Unknown Team in 5 games for the WS.

  54. JacksTigers 3 years ago

    You should stop.

  55. Matt 3 years ago

    Ya he’s too big.

  56. Bartolo didn’t win a game in Aug/Sep, losing his last four decisions.  A very bad sign. Have you seen Colon?  His gut sticks out so far he could be mistaken for a coach.

    He did beat the A’s 5-0 on May 30th but everyone was beating the A’s.  His good streak ended June 11 when he was 5-3, 3.10 ERA when he got hurt.  Thereafter he was 3-7.  You don’t re-build your club signing an aging, overweight pitcher.

    And you list 5 pitchers who all have injury problems.  The A’s are supposed to be re-building by giving young prospects like Jarrod Parker, Brad Peacock and Tom Milone a chance to develop.

    If we’re going to lose, lets do it with players who have a future.

  57. Jon Melton 3 years ago

    With Colon Arm is healthy now cholesterol levels are another matter altogether. But yeah solid pickup and can also flip fro prospects if he pitches like last year.

  58. slider32 3 years ago

    Is that Dallas, don’t run over my mound, Braden.

  59. James Attwood 3 years ago

    If the A’s could land Oswalt they should do exactly that. The Colisseum is definately tailored for a guy like Oswalt to put up some nice numbers, but I wonder about his desire to pitch for a non-contender in the same division as the Angels and Rangers.

    It certainly would make some sense, but it also seems unlikely.

  60. Corey Italiano 3 years ago

    ownership may not want to potentially spend 7.5 million more

  61. In 2011 Outman was found wanting and relegated to relief, and Ross couldn’t even get anyone out in AAA.  Moscoso was a great find and hope is he’ll hold down the number 2 or 3 starting slot.

    Oswalt made $12M last year.  He’s way of out the A’s financial league.

  62. James Attwood 3 years ago

    Colon  also faded late after having missed an entire season. It’s about as sure as it gets that he’ll have more stamina this year than last. Besides, the A’s aren’t looking for a 200IP guy to play all season. He’d be going into the rotation to keep a slot warm for Anderson or some other pitcher that wins their way into the rotation. At a reasonable salary, Colon will be pretty easy to move at the deadline if there is honestly talent being blocked.

    With the A’s not contending this year, it would make sense in some regards to let Parker get as many innings in as possible in AAA in order to extend his arbitration time. Unless he comes in to Spring and performs up to 100% of his potential (making him #1A or #2 on the team) there is no real incentive to rush him into the rotation just to have to start paying him a high 7 to low 8 digit salary a year sooner.

  63. wintwins 3 years ago

    Unfortunately that’s not funny

  64. They already have backup starters and their bullpen is solid. Can’t see it.

  65. If playing .500 ball is ‘winning’ you have a low bar.

    Parker, a pre-2011 #33 prospect has nothing left to prove in the minors.  After 2010 TJ surgery, he has returned strong and most pitchers are better than ever after 2 years.  Parker’s already 23 years old. It’s time to see what he’s got in the Show.

    If you’re rebuilding what good will it do to pitch vets who won’t be with the team in 3 years, or even less?

    If the goal is to retain their value, hey keep them on the farm until they are 30.

    Billy wants a contending club in 2013.  With all the prospects we’ve accumulated, we’ve already got a good farm system.

  66. Whoa.  Colon faded at the end and that’s an indicator he’ll be stronger?  With what?  A bigger gut?

    Anderson is highly unlikely to return this year, if at all.

    Cahill was traded to get Parker, the most developed prospect the A’s could get their hands on to replace him.

    How many prospects make their major league debut as the number 1 or 2 starter?

  67. Current A’s ownership is one of the cheapest in baseball.  Their 2009 team salary was only $62M but up from 2008’s $47M.

    They tried to take a shortcut to contend again by getting Matt Holliday.  Remember the A’s were in the playoffs in 2006.

    Oswalt hasn’t earned his keep since 2008.  Who’d want to risk the kind of money he’s asking for?

  68. Civilization 3 years ago

    What do you expect to get for a 39 year old starting pitcher? I wouldn’t keep your hopes high for much more then an organizational body or a “change of scenery” guy.

  69. Civilization 3 years ago

    What do you expect to get for a 39 year old starting pitcher? I wouldn’t keep your hopes high for much more then an organizational body or a “change of scenery” guy.

  70. melonis_rex 3 years ago

    …and offered competitive contracts to other players: namely Furcal, Beltre, Chapman, and Scutaro, to try to bring them to Oakland. 

    They haven’t been in on the Pujols/Fielder/Teixeira/Lee class of FAs, but they’ve bid competitively for quite a few of the mid-level guys. 

  71. melonis_rex 3 years ago

    …and offered competitive contracts to other players: namely Furcal, Beltre, Chapman, and Scutaro, to try to bring them to Oakland. 

    They haven’t been in on the Pujols/Fielder/Teixeira/Lee class of FAs, but they’ve bid competitively for quite a few of the mid-level guys. 

  72. melonis_rex 3 years ago

    Trade deadline. Everybody’s looking for starting pitching midseason. 

    Especially with most of the impending SP FAs (Hamels/Cain/Greinke/Marcum) on contending teams and thus not likely to be traded, the 1 year deal 2nd tier guys will become serious trade commodities. 

    And: James McDonald (traded for Octavio Dotel), was a “change of scenery” guy. That worked out really well.

  73. James Attwood 3 years ago

    A Type B prospect, not even necessarilty a pitching one, would be a decent return on an investment in Colon. Unless he just completely stinks the joint up, Beane should be able to get that from someone.

  74. Yeah, but look where we ended up (74-88).

    Good to know we’re on the same side, but I want to see progress this year.  Pitching more vets is not going to do it.  We already have vets McCarthy and Moscoso and possibly Braden.  Getting Colon (and looks like the A’s did) will be choking the prospects out and making this a lost year.

    To contend by 2014, progress is needed by some prospects, as they all won’t be developing at the same rate.

    You can’t flip the vets unless you have already developed some of these young pitchers.

    Peacock was a 41st round draft choice and Milone was 10th, while Parker was the 9th player chosen in the 2007 draft.  I say he’s more than ready, reading the analysts evaluations.

  75. Yeah, but look where we ended up (74-88).

    Good to know we’re on the same side, but I want to see progress this year.  Pitching more vets is not going to do it.  We already have vets McCarthy and Moscoso and possibly Braden.  Getting Colon (and looks like the A’s did) will be choking the prospects out and making this a lost year.

    To contend by 2014, progress is needed by some prospects, as they all won’t be developing at the same rate.

    You can’t flip the vets unless you have already developed some of these young pitchers.

    Peacock was a 41st round draft choice and Milone was 10th, while Parker was the 9th player chosen in the 2007 draft.  I say he’s more than ready, reading the analysts evaluations.

  76. You know our medical history and it’s not good.  Joey Devine and Josh Outman was out over a year and they still didn’t perform well in 2011.

    I’ve learned not to expect anything out Oakland pitchers coming off long spells on the DL.

    I like Susan but predicting when the A’s pitchers are back at full strength is a crap shoot.

  77. That is not this year so it’s ancient history.  But as you say, few want to play in Oakland.

    Wolf or any baseball owner for that matter is unwilling to spend truckloads of money unless he can see worthwhile income source to offset the costs.

    And the A’s will never get that income stream in Oakland.  Even in their glory years in 71-76 they drew a million only twice.  And we struggled to sell out during our playoff runs in 2000-2006 too.

  78. James Attwood 3 years ago

    Soler in OAK is an intriguing idea. I think it might just take OAK breaking the bank though in order to make it happen. Enough teams are going to have serious interest in Soler to make it difficult for the rebuilding A’s to entice him.

  79. Disgustedfan 3 years ago

    Yeah I agree they should sign Soler. He will only cost like 25 million and he has potential superstar written all over him. Lowbudget teams like Oakland need to hit on thier draftpicks and international signings to survive in the mlb. If he is a bust then its not like you broke the bank for him. To me the awards outweigh the risks

  80. OaklandFan22 3 years ago

    ya i would love the A’s to get soler

  81. Furcal, Beltre, Chapman and Scutaro aren’t fat, old men. How’d you get Chapman in this?  He’s in a completely different category.

    FA or not, you forget we paid through the nose for Matt Holliday.

    Oakland is less than a mid-level club, trying to compete with the big boys.

  82. Yeah,but it was fun.  A’s.

  83. Yankees420 3 years ago

    Are you sure there isn’t room in the bullpen?

  84. Notice I never mentioned the 88-93 attendance?

  85. Civilization 3 years ago

    Doyle was 3 years younger then Colon (will be) when that trade happened. Good luck getting anyone with high upside.

  86. So you’re saying get Oswalt along with Colon, to add to McCarthy, Moscoso and Braden to effectively choke off the chance to develop any of the prospects we obtained this year?

  87. Remember what happened to Ben Sheets.

  88. James Attwood 3 years ago

    How would it be choking off development when Colon and Oswalt would both be gone by the end of May and quite possibly McCarthy as well?

    Colon will likely only bring back a Tybe B or “work-in-progress” type prospect. Oswalt on the other hand, if he pitches like he is expected to, would bring back a Type A, perhaps even one that hits well. $4-5MM for half of a season of Oswalt plus a highly rated prospect is actually quite a deal.

  89. Hitters batted .298/.338/.498 against Bartolo in the second half of last year.  People won’t forget that quickly.

    Colon was ranked as the 43rd FA this off season for some very good reason.

  90. Nicole Morris 3 years ago

    what about jemile weeks?

  91. MaineSox 3 years ago

    Bogaerts was never going to happen, he has the highest upside of anyone in the entire Red Sox system.

  92. James Attwood 3 years ago

    I could easily see Garland (especially since he likes California) or Pinero out of that crop. Maybe they go long and go after Millwood or even Penny. I don’t see them making a play for Harden anymore and Young will probably be lucky to get picked up by anyone.

    With Oswalt’s asking price, even though the A’s have money, I just don’t see it happening, even though it would make sense.

  93. First of all, Oswalt is clearly unaffordable (he made $16M last year) but if the A’s did sign him, they’d have to eat most of his contract to trade him, so how is that to the A’s advantage?  As another poster said, what’s the market for a fat 39 year old like Colon, who’ll probably start wheezing by the end of May?

    I like the A’s chances of getting very good value for McCarthy but he’s already on the team and have already given the A’s a very good return on their investment, so anything else is a bonus.

  94. Oh?  When and where did Billy say he was ‘adamant’ about not pitching the prospects?

  95. Nats gave up a lot to get Gio, so I don’t blame them for getting cold feet, especially when you think about Zito, Mulder and even Hudson who also had his medical problems.

    This trade was by far the best of the three Billy made and since he traded away Swisher.

  96. James Attwood 3 years ago

    Oswalt is clearly unaffordable? He’s already dropped his asking price to $8-10MM. That’s hardly unaffordable. With half a season gone, plenty of teams will eat half the contract to acquire Oswalt if he is pitching well.

    Colon is not expected to bring back much. But a Type B would be enough to make it worthwhile, and likely that will be obtainable. If not, his salary isn’t going to be hurting the A’s to keep him.

    The A’s are building for 2013 and 2014. They might as well go out and essentially buy as many prospects as they can while they have the opportunity.

  97. James Attwood 3 years ago

    Parker would be the #3 (maybe #2) starter on Opening Day if he’s in the rotation. But if the A’s aren’t going to be contenders until 2014, why burn two years of team control?

  98. slider32 3 years ago

    Matt Moore was an 8th round pick that year.

  99. Who’s the first baseman?

  100. And closers.  Billy should’ve kept Andrew Bailey until the trading deadline, when he could’ve gotten tons of talent in return.

  101. You don’t build for the future by getting over-the-hill pitchers to eat innings that should go to developing youngsters.

    $8-10M is still too expensive and Oswalt’s asking for a multi-year contract.

    What are the chances of Colon lasting all year and getting the A’s a type B draft when he’s been only 22-30 since his last good year in 2005?  He may have shot his last wad in 2011 after being out all of 2010.

  102. All of baseball was laughing at the A’s before, during and after we got Sheets.  You never want to take risks like that.

  103. James Attwood 3 years ago

    Oswalt has made it very clear he only wants a one year deal. Colon may or may not get a type B by himself. It might take throwing in another low-rank body to make it happen.

  104. MaineSox 3 years ago

    Oswalt is looking for a one year deal worth around $8M.  Signing him with the intention of trading him for prospects at the deadline would make plenty of sense for the As, I’m just not sure that Oswalt would accept it.

  105. I feel the A’s want Parker to be the starting anchor by 2014.   He can become that only if he’s given enough time to develop against major league hitting.

    Considering he’s come off TJ surgery, they’ll be careful with him and limit his innings  so I see him as the 4th or 5th starter.

    Besides having him on the team, the coaching staff can closely monitor his progress and not leave anything to chance.

  106. James Attwood 3 years ago

    His TJ surgery is over a year removed now. The Dbacks very carefully babied him back after he had it and took longer than most people thought necessary to bring him up to the majors.

    The A’s may still choose to monitor his innings, but if they do put him in the rotation, and also limit his innings, then they are spreading themselves awfully thin, making the Colon signing actually make a bit more sense since he can cover a handful of garbage starts.

  107. jj, mark buehrle, anibal, nolasco, big z

    back ups leblanc, sabathia, hand, etc. 

    i’m not doing bullpen, do your own research. 

  108. You’re probably right about Oswalt, as it’s been a while since I read any news about him,.

  109. James Attwood 3 years ago

    Despite Bailey’s health concerns, the A’s sold very low, especially with the amount of OF talent they have been acquiring this offseason.

  110. MaineSox 3 years ago

    Maybe, but that’s a double edge sword.  Not only would it have cost them an extra $2M for the half year they get out of him, but it would also cost potentially interested teams an extra $2M for the half year they get out of him, so there is a reasonable chance that there would be less interest in him, and the As would almost certainly get less for him.

  111. MaineSox 3 years ago

     Oh gotcha.  There is definitely a better chance of him being part of a deal for one of those two, but I still don’t see it; they seem to think really highly of him (and rightfully so IMO), to the point that if I had to pick just one player that I would guess they would call ‘untouchable’ my money would be on him.

    I could be wrong about that, and I personally believe that there are very few (if any) players who are truly untouchable, but I think their view of him is high enough that they wouldn’t have been able to work out a deal with him in it.  They would view him as a centerpiece to any deal, and other teams would want him included as a secondary piece or a co-centerpiece if you know what I mean.

  112. nice name bro

  113. All managers sensibly limit rookie pitcher’s innings for everyone’s sake.

    Sounds like you don’t want to agree with anyone with differing views no matter what, but I like  arguing with you.

  114. What’s the alternative?  Lots of minor league innings for Parker.  Or less. Either way nothing gained.  With a year in MLB under his belt, Parker will be ready to lead the A’s comeback starting in 2013, while the rest will follow.  Isn’t it a consensus here Colon, Mc and possibly Moscoso will be  gone next year?  You need a leader and to become a leader, you need experience.

  115. disadvantage 3 years ago

    I see what you’re saying, except you’re taking a look at the future, they’re saying something that has happened in the past. They making the statement “Bartolo Colon just signed a contract”, NOT “Colon WILL sign at some point”.

    Basically, like Justin said, that’s what makes this trade rumors. If they waited until every single detail was in place to let you know Colon signed, they could just call it MLB.com.

  116. corey23 3 years ago

    looks like you were right about moscosco. 

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