The Blue Jays have acquired Jason Frasor from the White Sox in exchange for right-handed pitchers Myles Jaye and Daniel Webb, according to a press release. Frasor, 34, returns to Toronto where he played his entire big league career before being traded to the White Sox mid-season.
The veteran right-hander had his $3.75MM club option exercised on October 31st. It's possible that the White Sox picked up the option with the intention of dealing him this winter. Frasor posted a 3.60 ERA with 8.6 K/9 and 3.9 BB/9 in 60 innings for the Blue Jays and White Sox in 2011. He will join former teammate Sergio Santos, whom Toronto acquired in early December. 
Jaye and Webb were not among the top 25 prospects in the Blue Jays' system, according to John Sickels of Minor League Ball. Jaye, 20, was Toronto's 17th round pick in 2010 and made nine starts and four relief outings for the club's Appalachian League affiliate in 2011. Webb, 22, spent the bulk of 2011 with Single-A Lansing where he posted a 5.59 ERA with 7.0 K/9 and 3.3 BB/9 in 12 starts and six relief appearances.
It appears that GM Ken Williams hasn't taken any time off to celebrate the New Year after trading Carlos Quentin to the Padres just over 24 hours ago. By trading Frasor and the arbitration-eligible Quentin, the club has saved roughly $11.25MM in 2012.
Frasor and starter Zach Stewart were shipped to Chicago prior to the trade deadline for starter Edwin Jackson and third baseman Mark Teahen. Of course, the Blue Jays dealt Jackson to the Cardinals that very same day in order to land center fielder Colby Rasmus.
He’s back yo.
More importantly, Mrs Frasor is back
With a whole new attitude.
Wow, always liked Frasor, was sad when he was traded. But now he’s back! 😀
Lets be honest, did anyone even know he left?
I won’t lie, I thought the guy was being traded TO the White Sox.
Always fun to start the new year off with a blockbuster
My hope for the new year was to have no more stupid sarcastic comments on minor league signings, but 14 hours into 2012 it was ruined…
My hope for the new year was to not have any of these dumb sarcastic comments on minor league signings and trades, but 14 hours into 2012 that was ruined…
Agreed.
I knew it was too good to be true
Blue Jays: Ok….you can have Frasor. Take good care of him!
White Sox: Thanks dood
Blue Jays: No! You cheated! We want him back! NOW!
White Sox: Easy little guy…fine
Blue Jays: SUCCESS
Salary dump for the WSox… low-level prospects, so not bad. But not as the set-up… Would much rather Janssen in that role!
would much rather whoever earns it in that role. regardless who it is, the best pitcher outside of santos should be the setup or important situational guy.
Thank god Kenny Williams traded away Danks
Resigning him in a clear rebuilding phase would have been foolish
resigning him does not necessarily mean he will start the season with the sox…the long term deal at a good price may in fact up the value that they could receive from another team in a trade.
The no trade clause for the first year does guarantee he’ll be starting the year there, though
haha good point, never knew about that…just knew he got resigned.
I’m pretty sure when his team is 20 games out of first he will be more than happy to waive that NTC.
You think he doesn’t know the team will be bad in 2012? Otherwise he wouldn’t have signed the contract if he wasn’t ok with a couple bad seasons.
You think he doesn’t know the team will be bad in 2012? Otherwise he wouldn’t have signed the contract if he wasn’t ok with a couple bad seasons.
Jays lost interest in Danks as soon as he was extended….teams with strong prospect funnels only want Danks for a year and then grab the draft picks when he opts for FA
Doesn’t make too much sense to trade away a couple of good prospects, have Danks for a year only for the intention to get the draft picks that may land you “a couple of good prospects” that you originally had again the following year.
Jays would trade a couple of their B list prospects. For example, Nestor Molina was a B list prospect. Baseball America had him ranked as their 18th best prospect.
They wouldn’t want Danks in his free agent years because they don’t pay more than $3mil to $4mil per WAR on long-term contracts.
They would be aggressive in the draft with their 1st and supplemental pick because they spend around $11mil on signing bonuses.
What I suggested they do with Danks is similar to what Tampa Rays did with Rafael Soriano. In fact, Jays are pretty much copying Rays in Baseball Operation execution.
Not sure that logic still applies to Danks under the new CBA. Would he be offered $12 million to be a qualifying FA? (or am I misunderstanding the new compensation draft pick arrangement?)
Yep…if your qualifying offer is within Top 10 percent salaries, the player qualifies as a Type A free agent if he opts for Free Agency. But, you must have the player for at least a full season.
Danks being one year away from Free Agency and projecting to $7.6mil arb salary were some of the attributes that made him attractive to Blue Jays. I doubt they want him with his new salary $14.5 mil. He is typically 3.0 WAR player with some upside. AA usually pays out $2 mil to $3mil per WAR on multi-year contracts.
Jays lost interest in Danks as soon as he was extended….teams with strong prospect funnels only want Danks for a year and then grab the draft picks when he opts for FA
Since when is resigning a 26-year-old ace of the team to a 5-year-old counter-productive in a rebuild? You guys seriously need to understand that this rebuild isn’t going to take 5 years, it will take 2, maybe 3.
They also weren’t going to get much for Danks – nothing like Gonzalez brought – so better just to keep him.
Ken Williams will not rest until he has every Blue Jays pitching prospect.
be careful with the term “prospect”
what the hell is kenny williams doing? does anyone know?
He’s starting to look like Ed Wade.
“starting”?
isn’t Kenny Williams black?
Kenny Williams is wearing a toupee?
Coke? Yeah, probably coke…
it’s a helluva drug
Coke? Yeah, probably coke…
He is trading an over-paid reliever that should have had his option declined a couple months ago for 2 low level prospects. It’s a salary dump, but it also adds 2 young pitchers. It was a really good move for both teams.
I look at it like the Sox shouldn’t have exercised Frasor’s option anyway. He sucked on the South Side. Now, we have two “prospects” for a guy we should have let walk. We simply cannot lose, unless we cut a future star to make room for them.
It made more sense to pick up his option. Declining the option would have cost something. This way there is no cost and prospects come back in return.
What do you mean “declining the option would have cost something”??
It’s possible Frasor’s contract was different, but most options have a buy out so that declining them means the team has to pay something – e.g., Peavy has an option for ’13, but buying it out will cost something like 4mil. If there was not a cash buy out required, then it made sense only because of getting back prospects.
It’s possible Frasor’s contract was different, but most options have a buy out so that declining them means the team has to pay something – e.g., Peavy has an option for ’13, but buying it out will cost something like 4mil. If there was not a cash buy out required, then it made sense only because of getting back prospects.
like a $500,000 buy out, maybe?
like a $500,000 buy out, maybe?
Yep…the best of for White Sox would have been declining Frasor’s option, offer arb, and hope he signs elsewhere so Sox get supplemental pick (which is greater than Miles Jaye & other guy)
He cut payroll by trading spare parts and signed his best young pitcher to a long term deal when he couldn’t get a big return in prospects. It really isn’t hard to figure out.
Uhh wow, 2 low ceiling prospects that are years away for Frasor? I’ll take it.
Welcome back Frasor!
Myles Jaye is actually a nice sleeper with some potential but with all the pitching depth the jays have in the low minors, no one will notice he is gone
Yeah he is a sleeper but I don’t see the high upside.
AA does it again! Wow! Laffey, Oliver, Bocock, Frasor, Oliver, etc. JEDI MIND TRICKS! Genius!!
Now the Jays have the 16 best pen in baseball.
Not bad!!
Why are you inlcuding laffey and bocock… those are minor league deals. And who is this other Oliver character…? Also these lame sarcastic jedi mind tricks jokes are not even funny, considering we actually have a pretty good Bullpen now. I dont see the issue? Did you take a liking to those prospects you’ve never heard of?
I think he is being sarcastic.
Thanks for including Oliver twice
He’s that good.
notsureifsrs
I like that Kenny keeps acquiring young arms, I wonder who’s next.
A little league pitcher…
Yeah stockpilling arms is always a positive step for any farmsystem.
Its like Williams suddenly realized the use having a minor league system may have for the parent club!
It was only a matter of time before AA started putting this bullpen back together. I don’t think Frasor wanted to leave in the first place (being married to a local girl for one). He was a quality player that will look even better now that he wont be looked at as a possible closer.
does anyone know anything about these guys?
Miles Jaye is not bad…good addition if your talent funnel is weak.
I mean Jason Frasor for a 20 year old and a 22 year old, that’s a solid haul regardless of their current stats. Jays must have really like Frasor.
proven success in the al east
Its not like either one is a top prospect and Frasor is a solid pitcher for Toronto good move Jays
I’m not trying to bash here, but, just because they’re young doesn’t mean it’s a good deal. It’s a salary dump of an overpaid middle relief guy for a couple of names the majority of Jays fan have never heard of. Frasor had next to no value and that’s what the Sox got for him; next to nothing.
Frasor was a solid RP when he was in Toronto. Excellent move to solidify the bullpen!!
He’s a fine pen arm. He still had next to no value.
Frasor was a solid RP when he was in Toronto. Excellent move to solidify the bullpen!!
Good pickup by the Jays, giving them depth from which to make a bigger deal with. Watch this site for another, bigger AA blockbuster in the coming weeks…
does anyone know anything about these guys?
Frasor comes for basically 2 PTBNL (2 who have not played above Class A) is great!! That’s why we sign a lot of Minor League deals, to bolster our farm…. I hope this is the start of more transactions for the Jays, 3 somewhat noticeable players signed with the Jays the past three days (Oliver, Laffey, and now Frasor) and 3 others to minor league deals 😀
“Previously on Lost…” I think the Jays should send Teahan to the Tigers for Dotel, and then Rasmus to St. Louis for Rzep… Then almost everyone who left the Island is back… Oh wait, except Wells! Nevermind!!
And Napoli!
As long as Johnny Mac doesn’t return, it’s a good day.
why?
Fraser sucks he blew alot of games last your for Toronto member the closer experiment what a bust who we getting next rauch and Freddy
I think you mean Frankie…
As usual, another ignorant poster that doesn’t have a clue. For years on end, Frasor teamed with Scott Downs in the eighth inning, allowing leads to go to the closer. Perhaps you were still an infant when that happened. Frasor in 09 was the closer, taking over from Ryan, when he was injured and saved 16 of 17 games. In 2010, Frasor blew a couple of games, Cito panicked and he went back to doing what he does best, preserving leads. To say he was the problem for blown saves is inaccurate. Camp, Miller, Tallet, Ledezma, Rauch, Dotel, Francisco, Zep blew most of them and were cut loose. Frasor has been an asset and it is nice to have him back. If you don’t agree, I hear that the major leagues have 29 other teams you can criticize, so please pick one, so your ignorance will then be focused on another team.
are you kidding me?? we’ve gone from speculating about Darvish, Fielder and Garza to picking up Oliver, Laffey and Frasor? FRASOR?? OMG, it’s gonna take more than spanky new/old uniforms to bring people back to Skydome
Why cut off our nose to spite our face? Frasor is a very solid bullpen arm tried-and-tested on the Toronto mound. Today the Jays are stronger than they were yesterday.
and never getting help doesn’t make you brave
Why do people keep saying laffey like he was a big pickup or something?
He’s on a minor league contract…is that too complex for you? Oliver
is Solid , Frasor is decant and we gave nobodies up for him. We got
Rasmus for rentals , the only pieces we actually ended up giving away
for Rasmus is Zach Stewart and Rzep… Who else doesn’t make that trade?
like seriously? I don’t care if you hate AA or even if Rasmus ends up
busting , every GM makes that trade.
depends how highly you rate stewart, but based on what we saw & trusting in AA and jays scouting department, i completely agree with all of the above.
depends how highly you rate stewart, but based on what we saw & trusting in AA and jays scouting department, i completely agree with all of the above.
I’m frankly not sure why you felt justified in getting this snotty, particularly when you took the post in a completely different direction than the person who actually posted it.
Nowhere–nowhere–in his post does he mention Rasmus, Stewart or Rzep, or even the trade in general. That makes, oh, about 80% of your post completely off topic. The best part would be the remaining 20%, which exists pretty much solely to set up the worthless 80% and throw in an insult to make you feel good about yourself.
You’re obviously struggling–too distracted by big boobs perhaps–so let me help you out: All he said is that the offseason began with dreams of Fielder, Darvish and Garza and all the Jays have picked up are Oliver, Laffey and Frasor, and that those pickups are not going to put butts in the seats. Nobody said Laffey was a big pickup. In fact, the reality that he was not a big pickup was pretty much the OP’s entire point. You may have missed it in your race to throw in an insult.
If you have something to say about what people actually post, by all means, go ahead. That is worthwhile discussion. If all you’re going to do is put words into peoples mouth and then insult them for those words, do us all a favor and don’t bother.
And you say 80% of my post was pointless… Yikes. Where’s the insult by the way?
Maybe his post was “too complex for you”?
If that’s an insult then i’m horrible at them.
Because the OP is acting like these type of deals are mutually exclusive as if you can’t work out small deals while trying to finish a big deal. Sure no big names have landed in Toronto this off-season (much to the dismay of some), but, finishing smaller deals doesn’t stand in the way of bigger deals. And Rasmus is an example of a bigger name landing in Toronto; almost like he was talking about the OP’s post. Either way, big names won’t draw people to the Dome. Only winning will do that.
I think your disqus is on *AutoTroll* , might wanna unclick that option and talk baseball for once.
You won the worst troll of the year for 2011, good start for 2012.
I pity you for your stupidity, like, did you have no friends to hang out last night for new years? So you decided to wake up and instantly troll the Jays? Did AA still your cheating girlfriend? Or did Rasmus sleep with your mom? Please tell us why you hate the Jays, I need something to amuse me to get my mind off my hangover.
Don’t feed the trolls. Then they will die, as they are too dumb to feed themselves.
Kenny is so stupid. By getting rid of salaries he’s trading away the best guys on the team for people who probably aren’t gonna meals it to the majors!!! Seriously has anyone heard of the guys before the trades?!?!?!?!?!?!
Did you just refer to Jason Frasor as “the best guys”? I couldn’t stand Frasor. Most Sox fans were pissed Kenny even picked up his $3.75M option. This trade was very good for the Sox, and for both teams really. We turned what should have been a declined-option in to 2 young prospects. We turned “nothing” in to “something”. That’s never a bad deal.
Couldn’t the White Sox receive a pick by declining his option and offering him arbitration?
Yeah I’m really not impressed with his moves. When Ed Wade tries to build a pen they say he is an idiot, but this guy does the same and he is some type of genius.
its called “rogers centre” now if u didnt know that already
AA is looking at another big trade which is reasoninf for the many depth moves…watch in the coming weeks jays will trade for starter by trading an OF, RP, SP from the current roster and 1 procpect..
^This
thats what everyone says.
he could just be improving his bullpen as a means to you know, improve his bullpen.
That’s crazy, what GM in their right mind would want a ton of solid depth in their bullpen?
That’s what St. Louis did last season, especially mid season with the Rasmus trade..
woosh!
OR they just need bullpen depth
Its not like the sox were gonna get much back for frasor its mostly a salary dump, but keep in mind the sox hired a scouting director from the blue jays this season and he apparently had his eyes on the three kids the sox have gotten back from the blue jays this offseason.
Another move coming for the Jays soon to get back down to 40… by my count, with Frasor and Oliver, they’re at 41 when Oliver becomes official.
this is ok, frasor is a nice arm to have, and they likely gave up nothing for him. bullpen now looks like:
santos
janssen
oliver
frasor
villanueva
carreno/litsch/perez
that looks strong imo. and the excess depth can be used in the rotation if need be since villanueva, litsch, carreno and perez have all started before (not that we necessarily want them starting tho).
I think Carreno goes back to starting.
he wouldn’t get any late innings anyways, he’d be a waste.
As much as I hate watching Jason Frasor pitch because of how long he takes, he’s effective and the bullpen is shaping up to be pretty decent now.
This move also leads me to believe that Carreno will be put back in a starting role.
Santos, Oliver, Frasor, Janssen, Villanueva, Litsch and Beck/Perez is a pretty decent pen.
Frasors got to be ecstatic about coming back.
yea that seems to be a good possibility. if he can maintain command i think he could be a good one. he’s always been able to punch guys out really well. his numbers from 2010 in dunedin are pretty eye-popping.
Agreed with all of this. I think Perez makes it just because he is a lefty and he has decent numbers against lefties (a lot better then I thought they were, very comparable to Mike Gonzalez. Hopefully Carreno continues to develop, I was quite impressed with him last season.
2nd time this offseason that a reliever has been traded for a prospect whose name is some variation on the name “Miles”.
Welcome back Frasor!
So the Trade in a sense now was.
2 Months of E Jax, Teahan for Zack Stewart, Jaye & Webb.
Yup for the Jays it’s Zack Steward, Cory Patterson, Octavio Dotel, and Mark Rezp, Jayd & Webb for Rasmus, Teahan, and P.J Walters plus a couple of old and horrible relievers (Tallet, and Miller) who were released before the end of the season…. Not bad
not bad!!
Welcome back Frasor!
Is it completely unfathomable that Jays fans on here will ever think an AA deal is bad? The Napoli “deal” made him a borderline laughingstock in my opinion. He flipped a C with pop for a middle reliever, you never ever do that. Ever. There is nothing anyone can say that will make that logically reasonable. Maybe if he got a SP who gave them 30+ starts, thats a fair deal, but as soon as I heard “Napoli for Francisco” I almost threw up. Sorry guys, AA isnt as big a genius as you make him out to be.
Great Move for the Jays. Love Fraser and so happy to have him back.
Welcome back Jason!
First good deal for Kenny this offseason. I wonder if they picked up Frasor’s option to get something for him? He surely wasn’t going to be a late inning guy for the Sox.
Now let’s see what we can squeeze from the Yankees for Matt Thornton.
3 early 20’s pitchers 2 of which who profile as starters for 2 bull pen guys one of which already has been replaced (reed) solid
Move for both teams
lol?
oh no
Solid deal for both teams. Jays trade away 2 prospects that they won’t miss in a deeeeep farm system, and the White Sox trade away an over-paid reliever that they could have very easily just declined the option on in October. Instead of letting him walk, they managed to get 2 pitching prospects back for him. Very good deal.
There’s not even a White Sox picture for him.
with Frasor’s $3.75 salary, that should push opening day ML payroll to $72.5’ish after arbitrations, or two million’ish above 2011. Will be interesting how they price Morrow. On the plus side, he’s a young power arm, or, did we see a ceiling last season?
237 comments on a Jason Frasor transaction! Jays fans are dieing for something big to happen…
Pretty good photoshop job on that picture. It can’t be easy turning a white sox jersey into a jays jersey.