Dominican Police: Carmona Using Assumed Name

FRIDAY: Carmona was released from court in the Dominican and asked for the forgiveness of fans, the U.S. government and the Indians, the Associated Press reports (via ESPN). It appears unlikely that the Indians will void Carmona's contract, but the right-hander has to get to the U.S. to get paid this year, Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer tweets.

THURSDAY, 3:25pm: The Indians issued the following statement regarding Carmona: “We were recently made aware of the situation that occurred today in the Dominican Republic and are currently in the process of gathering information,” GM Chris Antonetti said. “We are not prepared to make any additional comment at this time.”

2:23pm: Police in the Dominican Republic say Fausto Carmona's real name is Roberto Hernandez Heredia, Enrique Rojas of ESPNDeportes tweets. Dionisio Soldevila of the AP tweets that Carmona is 31, not 28 and Jorge Arangure Jr. of ESPN.com tweets that the right-hander's chances of obtaining a visa quickly don't seem good. Yancen Pujols first tweeted news of the identity issues.

The Indians exercised Carmona's option after the season, so he'll earn $7MM in 2012. The ground ball pitcher posted a 5.25 ERA with 5.2 K/9 and 2.9 BB/9 in 188 2/3 innings in 2011. The Marlins placed Leo Nunez/Juan Carlos Oviedo on the restricted list because of issues related to his assumed name. It's not clear whether Carmona will be able to pitch in the U.S. by Opening Day.


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183 Comments on "Dominican Police: Carmona Using Assumed Name"


TribeGuy
3 years 7 months ago

Oh no….

Devon Henry
3 years 7 months ago

BIG difference between 28 and 31 in terms of age.

3 years 7 months ago

No there’s not. The difference was substantial when he was a prospect, but it would not affect the amount of money he’s making this year.

3 years 7 months ago

Sure it will… or might… if I’m the Indians, I say “hey, we picked up the option for somebody named Fausto Carmona… I’m not paying somebody named Roberto Hernandez Heredia” (and frankly, I do think they could void the deal on the basis of false pretenses, invalid signature, etc.).

Victor Kipp
3 years 7 months ago

I’m sure they could.  They should do just that.

Lastings
3 years 7 months ago

31 is the new 28. You do know that right?

3 years 7 months ago

LITTLE difference between 28 and 31 in terms of pounds overweight.

Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 7 months ago

Prince Fielder is living proof.

NYBravosFan10
3 years 7 months ago

Carmona is no pixie either

3 years 7 months ago

wow

Karkat
3 years 7 months ago

How does this keep happening???

Also, who decides on the name “Fausto”?

philly_red
3 years 7 months ago

Teams are willing to gamble on a guy with talent, even if he’s 3-5 years older than he’s claiming, is using a fake name, or what have you.

3 years 7 months ago

Yea, especially our Phillies.  If you are Latin, over 30, and available, Philadelphia has to be a stop on your tour. 

Raul Ibanez, Dany(s) Baez and Jose Contreras highly recommend it.

3 years 7 months ago

Don’t get it.. Raul Ibanez is American..

3 years 7 months ago

But nonetheless old.

pirates20
3 years 7 months ago

And you can’t forget Abraham Nunez

Doug
3 years 7 months ago

Why would they give him $7 mil anyway? He’s godawful!

levendis
3 years 7 months ago

I am utterly shocked. Wouldn’t surprise me if Pineda turns out to be at least 25, he already looks like a grown man

Kiran Raul
3 years 7 months ago

I dont mind if he is 25, at least we get our 6 years and by 31 he should still be a good pitcher, but i agree dude is huge lol

Ian_Smell
3 years 7 months ago

Now I don’t regret buying his shirt. Awesome.

BLZR
3 years 7 months ago

I’m disappointed, but only because “Fausto Carmona” is one of the coolest names ever.  I’ve always been a fan of his just because of the name.  I don’t know how to take this.

philliesfan136
3 years 7 months ago

Wow another one..

3 years 7 months ago

Is this going to be the new steroid suspicion? Instead of accusing players of PED’s, they will now be accused of being older than they are reported

Onetimeaccount
3 years 7 months ago

This isn’t new.

3 years 7 months ago

It hasnt been widespread though. All of the sudden this offseason Albert Pujols, the greatest player of his generation, a first ballot hall of famer, is getting his age questioned? Nobody seemed to mind when he was 25

3 years 7 months ago

Well, it’d probably be more accurate to say that confirmation hasn’t been as widespread.  I’d say the reason that suspicion is growing is because more people are being found out in it.

3 years 7 months ago

Right, the actual confirmation isnt as widespread as the suspicion. Same with steroid use.

johnsmith4
3 years 7 months ago

Latin American players have been doing this since the 60s….they know their age has a big impact on how scouts assess them.

3 years 7 months ago

Yes, but most of them can’t really get away with it anymore.  Venezuela, the Netherlands Antilles, Cuba, and Mexico all have reasonably good records-keeping.  The DR just has bureaucratic officials who are either inept or corrupt.

Hannibal_Lester
3 years 7 months ago

Corrupt. No question about it.

jammin502
3 years 7 months ago

I think that MLB has to do more to crack down on this.  I would put in place a 50 day suspension on a player if this is discovered.  The teams should already be able to void the contract, but the 50 days would be a penalty on the player as well as the team that did not do due diligence in background checking.

3 years 7 months ago

Calling this trade:
Clayton Richard to CLE for something

Leonard Washington
3 years 7 months ago

Well now he is still awful just older. 

3 years 7 months ago

who is next? Albert Pujols is 35 and named Juan Rodriguez?

Mario Saavedra
3 years 7 months ago

37*

3 years 7 months ago

Jose Alcantara

3 years 7 months ago

Danny Almonte

BoSoxSam
3 years 7 months ago

Ryan Seacrest

johnsmith4
3 years 7 months ago

Dean Martin

johnsmith4
3 years 7 months ago

Mike Danton – St. Louis Blues

NYBravosFan10
3 years 7 months ago

I wonder how many Juan Rodriguez’s there are in the world…

hisownfool
3 years 7 months ago

According to White Pages.com, there are 9349 guys named Juan Rodriguez in the United States. That number seems small, then again, I’m a Nuyorican.

inleylandwetrust
3 years 7 months ago

Wow

jondogg2010
3 years 7 months ago

The problem I have is NOT the name, it’s that you CANNOT import to America under a fake name. I know actors and such have stage names, that’s not my point. Lying to the authorities is rules for being deported! Bye bye! And the team shouldn’t have to be responsible for paying players found to have fake names.

johnsmith4
3 years 7 months ago

Does this mean MLB should transfer his rights to Toronto?

Exposfan
3 years 7 months ago

America doesnt stand for United States

Please learn the difference

jb226
3 years 7 months ago

Sure it does.  Or at least it can, it’s all about the context.

“America” may be short for United States of America, it might be short for North America, it might be short for Central America, it might be short for South America — it might refer to the entirety of the region, basically the entire hemisphere, though that is not typical (it’s usually “Americas” at that point).In this context, it’s clear the original poster was referring to the US or he would not be referring to immigration laws and deportation.  

If you can’t parse context or are mad that the term is often used to refer to the US, that’s sad for you.  It certainly doesn’t change anything.

Marc_from_Brooklyn
3 years 7 months ago

He entered Canada with the Indians on road trips presumably using a false name on his DR passport, so he may have similar immigration issues returning to Canada as he does now returning to the US.

3 years 7 months ago

Are the Authorities certain about this? It wasn’t some Wikipedia mix-up back at the “Home Office”? Why are the police involved? Was he “Jay-Walking” at the time?

johnsmith4
3 years 7 months ago

Let see if he ends up “Blue Jay Walking”

3 years 7 months ago

The police are involved because the DR DOES actually investigate things like this (it’s either identity theft or it’s signing a contract under a false name), they just take forever to do it.

Exposfan
3 years 7 months ago

Hmmm.. might want to investigate on Coco Crisp.. Maybe they’ll find out he’s linked to a Kellog brand name

Tyler Jedrzejak
3 years 7 months ago

hahaahhahaha i love this

chico65
3 years 7 months ago

Guerilla marketing at its finest

3 years 7 months ago

Every time Milton Bradley threw a tantrum sales for Candyland and Connect 4 went through the roof.

AnJrue
3 years 7 months ago

his real name is covelli, coco is just a nickname

AnJrue
3 years 7 months ago

his real name is covelli, coco is just a nickname

JST1331
3 years 7 months ago

YES! Now my Carmona shirt will be worth something!

pirateswillwinin2013
3 years 7 months ago

The next one will be Jose Tabata, it will come out he’s 29 years old and real name is Benny “the jet” Rodriguez.

3 years 7 months ago

There is only one thing that can be said or done about this:

*facepalm*

$1742854
3 years 7 months ago

A International Draft would take care of many of these problems.

3 years 7 months ago

yes all day.

Jon Melton
3 years 7 months ago

Why would the draft eliminate anything,  because they are drafted its impossible to fabricate their age anymore?