Athletics Extend Beane Through 2019

WEDNESDAY: The extensions will have option years, reports Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle.

TUESDAY: Not much is certain when it comes to the future of the Athletics, but their leadership team will remain in place long-term. Owner Lew Wolff said today that GM Billy Beane and president Michael Crowley have agreed to extensions through the 2019 season, Jon Erlichman and Rob Gloster of Bloomberg News report. Beane told Jim Bowden of MLB Network Radio and ESPN.com that reports of a deal are a bit premature (Twitter link), but Wolff expects Beane and Crowley to sign within 30 days.

Beane became the team's GM after the 1997 season and Crowley became team president one year later. They face a problematic stadium situation in Oakland and the club may move to San Jose in the relatively near future. Both Beane and Crowley have ownership stakes in the Athletics and Wolff is the club's managing partner.

The Athletics have made five playoff appearances under Beane, who has been with the team longer than any other American League GM. Beane was recently portrayed on the big screen by Brad Pitt in Moneyball. He last constructed a playoff team in 2006, when Oakland made it to the ALCS.

Ben Nicholson-Smith contributed to this post.


129 Responses to Athletics Extend Beane Through 2019 Leave a Reply

  1. I can’t wait to see the movie about this.

    “If I sign this extension… it’ll have changed the game.”

  2. Stadium decision coming?

  3. Alex Nelson 3 years ago

    You beat me to it.. Don’t they mean Brad Pitt.

  4. TartanElk 3 years ago

    Sure. Yeah. Okay.

  5. Phillies_Aces35 3 years ago

    I’m assuming this means they’re going to San Jose?

  6. And they’ll remain mediocre through 2019. I respect everyone’s opinion of him, but I think he is incredibly overrated.

    • Please explain. He has a shoestring payroll and it’s extremely hard to land big time hitter because of that park. He’s done a great job. Didn’t you watch Moneyball?!?

      • jacks100 3 years ago

        true baseball fans ‘read’ Moneyball

      • Gladly. He has won ONE playoff series since he took over in 1997. He did that because of Zito, Mulder, and Hudson. It’s not fair to say “oh, look at what he has done with that payroll.” He hasn’t competed in a long time. Clear as day. Teams with low payrolls have competed during this time. (Rays, Marlins, Twins). The A’s have not. Look at how badly he got hosed in the Matt Holliday trade. In the end after it all played out he ended up giving up Matt Holliday, Huston Street, Carlos Gonzalez, Brett Wallace for Michael Taylor. Follow the line of the trade. You’ll see it. It wasn’t the only time he has gotten hosed in a deal either. Look at what he got for Tim Hudson. Not to mention, here is a list of his first round draft picks link to baseball-reference.com; … Swisher did most of his damage elsewhere. This can go on and on.

        • Biggie Smalls 3 years ago

            I see two rookie of the year guys and a Cy Young award winner on that list of first rounders.

          • Tyler Jedrzejak 3 years ago

            but you hve to admit..he does get some crppy returns most of the time and the holiday saga was a nightmare

          • Rarely are the A’s trading for talent. They’re trading to dump payroll. The returns are usually Minor Leaguers who don’t cost the big club money. The A’s obviously want to move to San Jose and are doing everything they can to tank it in Oakland to make that happen. 

          • Then why did they trade for Holliday to begin with? Did they “dump” payroll when they gave up Carlos Gonzalez?

          • You just used Bobby Crosby to defend your argument. I’m just letting you know. Not to mention, he had an average at best rookie year when he won Rookie of the Year. Look at his competition for the award. What has he done since say.. 2002 other than Street (who he couldn’t wait to get rid of)? Anyone on there of ANY significance? 

        • LewisWolff 3 years ago

          I agree with you that Beane is overrated, but Zito was the only one of the big three left on the 2006 team that went to the ALCS. The reason that team went as far as it did was mainly because of Frank Thomas, which is certainly one of the best low-risk free agent signings a GM has ever made.

    • TheHotCorner 3 years ago

      What makes him overrated?  Considering what he has done with his payroll I would say he has done a great job. 

      • MB923 3 years ago

        Well look at some of the facts. His team has only made the playoffs 5 times in 15 seasons and have not made the playoffs since 2006, and they play what is fair to say the least toughest division to win in baseball (until it gets 5 teams next year). His A’s have won a grand total of One playoff series, and they did not win a game in the ALCS when they made it there. Yes he runs a small market team but there are many other small market teams who have made the playoffs at least once over the years And have won a playoff series and WS. Your Braves are a good example. The only American League teams to not win a playoff series since Beane became GM are the Royals and Blue Jays. Well the O’s made the playoffs in 97 and he became GM in October 97 so I suppose you can include the O’s

        I have to disagree with you saying he’s done a great job. I will say he’s done a good job, but not a great job. It was more so of a great job in the early 00’s to mid 00’s. Since then the A’s have been a medicore ball club with not a single winning season.

        And if you are going to ask would I take him over Cashman, it’s something I cannot answer. Cashman is not a great GM but he’s not a bad GM either. Personally, I think comparing Big GM’s and Small GM’s is apples to oranges. You might not have a payroll limit, but there is a player limit. Beane would not run NY the same way he runs Oakland, same for Cashman the other way. So unless 1 is to switch teams, we have no idea how those 2 would do with a bigger or smaller market club. Both have made great moves for their ballclubs, but both have made pretty bad moves (as has nearly every GM)

        In the end, Beane is definitely one of the top GM’s in the game, but to say he is the best ( I know that’s not what you said but I’m talking to those that think that) I think is a bit of a stretch. 

        Again, don’t take this post as a knock on Beane.

        • CC 3 years ago

          Nice

        • jpkinney7 3 years ago

           His team has only made the playoffs 5 times in the past 15 years?   Doesn’t 5 times in the past 11 years sound better?  He did start his tenure with a complete rebuild in 1996 (Trading McGuire, etc).    Beane is a Top 5 GM and should continue to keep his job in Oakland.

          • MB923 3 years ago

            Obviously you didn’t read my comment which happened to be later on though so I’m not faulting you, when I said form 97-06 he was without a doubt the best GM in baseball. Since then though his team has fallen apart every year. Is it his full responsibility? Of course not. But without question a GM has some responsibility due to that.

  7. Long live Moneyball!  

    Moneyball II- how to beat the salary floor.

  8. Beane’s moneyball stragity hasn’t done enough for the A’s that it deserves this kind of extension.  Weird.  

    • The problem is that now every team has adopted it. So once again, the payroll is the Athletics’ downfall.

      • who could they add better than beane.  this is a vote of confidence.  plus wolff likes beane for not jumping ship.  a lot of people in power like to keep people they know are loyal.  how hard is it to believe this situation is any different.

    • m4r1n3r 3 years ago

      Are you kidding? He’s done phenomenal with the payroll he’s had to work with. Definitely deserving of an extension… not sure about one through 2019 though. Seems a tad bit long.

      Also its strategy. A strategy he had to work with considering cheap ownership.

  9. Guest 3 years ago

    Right now frustrated A’s fans all over the US are saying NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • corey23 3 years ago

       I’m a frustrated A’s fan, and I’m not saying that… I like Beane, i think he knows what he’s doing and after they get a new stadium things will change.  Nobody wants to go to oakland, no reason to spend money on second rate players, or make offers to guys using oakland to drive up their asking price.

    • Snoochies8 3 years ago

      as one of those frustrated a’s fans….you’re completely wrong

      a’s fans who’ve been fans since two years ago maybe saying that….or “fans” who don’t actually know anything about the a’s and are extremely impatient

      • corey23 3 years ago

        couldn’t agree more… i remember when we made the playoffs quite a bit 5-10 years ago, can’t rebuild the pyramids overnight…. i’m just ready to get out of the dumpO.co stadium.

    • Phillies_Aces35 3 years ago

      Are there A’s fans “all over the US?”

      Joking aside, I think Billy Beane’s done a good job. While he’s very over rated, he also has probably the 1st or 2nd worst situation in baseball in terms of revenue/budget space. He’s stuck with that franchise through the bad times and if they are indeed moving to San Jose, he deserves a chance to rebuild them.

      • Snoochies8 3 years ago

        in little underground pockets, kinda like underground resistance, they don’t want their identity given away 

  10. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    sweet! most innovating gm. If he were to become a majority owner (obviously probably won’t happen), i swear he’d be the next connie mack

  11. Shawnthemon 3 years ago

    I don’t understand this at all, Beane changes his mind every offseason, either they try to get to the Cap floor, or there spending/trading for big players. 

    I am not trying to be a troll or anything, but I don’t understand why they extended him for so long, over the last 2-3 years he hasn’t done enough to impress me. Other than being the main characters from one of my favourite movies of last year.

  12. bayareabeast 3 years ago

    good..give him a chance to finish what he started

  13. This came out of nowhere.

  14. baybombers 3 years ago

    Jemile Weeks, Kurt Suzuki, Jarrod parker will all be traded with in 3 years

    • Snoochies8 3 years ago

      hopefully zooks is traded before that, aka this year, but otherwise, you’re wrong

  15. Changing the game by finding new methods of being irrelevant.

  16. Beane’s not only going to San Jose, He’s going to Disneyland!
    Then he and his family will be going to Itchy and Scratchy Land for more fun and excitement. For he has reached the “Promised Land”! It’s time to celebrate.

    • ellisburks 3 years ago

      Then he is going to Euro Itchy and Scratchy Land. “Ello? Itchy & Scratchy Land, open for business! Who are you to resist it, huh? Come on, my last paycheck bounced! My children need wine!”

  17. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    hopefully the next news for the a’s: Soler to sign

  18. Victor Kipp 3 years ago

    Easy to live up to expectations when there are none.

  19. Tom Macari 3 years ago

    Even when the A’s were winning over 100 games a year, they barely cracked 2 million in attendance (THANKS IN PART TO $2 WEDNESDAY GAMES LOL)!  I’m not mad at them for not wanting to lose money each year.  This viscous cycle will never end without a new stadium.

  20. that is nice 

  21. “frank and beanes, frank and beanes”….

  22. philliesfan136 3 years ago

    Brad Pitt has been signed to a 12-year extension for over $115 to star in the next four Moneyball sequels, according to multiple sources.

  23. OaklandFan22 3 years ago

    I’m not really mad at this move, with thepayroll constraints that the A’s have other gm’s wouldn’t be doing much better. I say we let beane finish what he has started.

  24. hgr900 3 years ago

    I wish Brad Pitt played me in a movie

  25. pojack 3 years ago

    The A have not produced a player from their system who is middle of the lineup hitter since Nick Swisher. Their player development needs to be better for them to succeed regardless whether they get a new stadium or not.

  26. pojack 3 years ago

    The A have not produced a player from their system who is middle of the lineup hitter since Nick Swisher. Their player development needs to be better for them to succeed regardless whether they get a new stadium or not.

  27. whenever i see the name billy beane, i just see brad pitt

  28. anthony88 3 years ago

    I’m just a little bit caught in the middle
    Life is a maze and love is a riddle I don’t where to go can’t do it alone I’ve tried And I don’t know why

  29. MB923 3 years ago

    Pretty sure Beane will take at least 1 option year into 2020. Maybe by 2020, the A’s will start seeing things better.

  30. MB923 3 years ago

    Contending for 2nd to last place. I would be stunned if they finished better than 3rd in that division for the next several years, possibly until 2013.

  31. gmenfan 3 years ago

    Yes, in the PCL unfortunately.

  32. TheHotCorner 3 years ago

    Beats trading for Alex Rios or say Vernon Wells.

  33. MB923 3 years ago

    Don’t forget the Nelson Cruz trade. Maybe it’s not frustrating, but it was a bad one. And for a guy who works for a team w here $10 million for 1 year is about $20 mil per year for a large market team, the Ben Sheets contract was awful.

  34. bomberj11 3 years ago

    That was an ownership trade.

  35. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    yeah i think 2013 was a little too optimistic, but 2015 is definitely reachable in terms of contention. have a couple of diamondback-like drafts would put us in a real good spot then

  36. bayareabeast 3 years ago

    as im sure you know, the a’s cant properly rebuild because they cant keep anyone. hopefully by 2019 they have a new stadium, and they take the handcuffs off beane so we can see what he can do, its only fair.

  37. $21621694 3 years ago

    You have a point. But remember, after it is all said and done baseball is a game. This means that the ball is round and any team can win no matter the payroll. Sure they do have a problem but it is not unrealistic to think they can contend in the next few years

  38. Baseball America just ranked the A’s farm organization 5th in America. 

  39. Dan Mazzaro 3 years ago

     Anyone can win that division

  40. Lunchbox45 3 years ago

    Beane is the ugly guy at the bar who discovered a good pick up move.. only to have better looking guys figure out the same move and have far more success with it..

    Had Beane been the GM of the Red Sox or Yankees or heck even a mid payroll team like the Jays or something, he’d have a lot more to his resume.

  41. Lunchbox45 3 years ago

    Beane is the ugly guy at the bar who discovered a good pick up move.. only to have better looking guys figure out the same move and have far more success with it..

    Had Beane been the GM of the Red Sox or Yankees or heck even a mid payroll team like the Jays or something, he’d have a lot more to his resume.

  42. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    HAHA great analogy, i can never think of a good one

    yes, he developed a system that, with better resources, turned into multiple world serieseses

  43. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    but without billy beane, would there have been an andrew friedman?

  44. Guest 3 years ago

    One major difference between the A’s and Rays is that Tampa was one of the worst teams in baseball for 10 consecutive years, which allowed them to accumulate a lot of top 5 draft picks — many of them being 1st-overall selections. That’s a large part of why they’ve been so good the last four seasons. Those high draft picks are why they have Evan Longoria, David Price and BJ Upton.

    The A’s, on the other hand — even through a rebuild — haven’t been bad enough to select higher than 10th-overall since 1998.

    The draft is a crapshoot. But the odds of drafting players who turn into studs is whole lot greater when you have really early draft picks. And from 2000 to 2007, the A’s never selected higher than 16th-overall (and that was a comp pick from Boston in 2002).

  45. Shawnthemon 3 years ago

    In 2011 the A’s line up was terrible, there pitching was good though, and I am talking about the projections into the year. 

    Beane is a good GM, but he changes his mind too often. He has also made some really bad moves, but in his defence, which GM hasn’t. Trading away Either, Hudson, Gonzalez, Cruz, and others. 

    The Holliday trade was bad, but so was the return when he traded him to the Cards.

    But, he has also made some amazing trades. The Swisher trade and Haren trade come to mind.

    I am not saying he is a bad GM, I just do not think he deserves a 7 year extension.

  46. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    seth smith

  47. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    to play devil’s advocate, he also signed esteban loaiza (however you spell it), in hindsight, that turned out to be horrible

  48. MB923 3 years ago

    No one is a “Beane hater”. 

  49. Chillin_in_California 3 years ago

    Too bad that “little mistake” cost them a franchise caliber player (granted his numbers are inflated by coors but he would still be a 20-25 homer  guy who would hit .280 drive in 90 and play a gold glove outfield . But then again Beane probably would have traded CarGo too. Sigh

  50. Perhaps his goal from the start was/is to win a World Series before he died.If that’s the case,it is still a lofty one.

  51. FamousGrouse 3 years ago

    Cubs fans wish we had started a 50 year plan in 1960…

  52. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    you do realize he was winning before the nationals were in washington, right?

    and he’s had winning seasons, how many have the nationals had?

    they’re good now, but they’ve needed a while to become good, you really don’t have much to talk about.

  53. JMBY88 3 years ago

    washington just traded for a ton of walks and then went on to purchase a bunch of walks…gio and edwin are both overrated because of this….they have a great pen, and strasburg/zimmerman 1-2 is solid, but wheres the offense aside from zimmerman? worth is terrible outside of a great lineup….i dont see them lasting a full season actually competing with complete teams like the phillies and braves

  54. What the hell is wrong with you?Kurt Suzuki is GOD!

  55. What the hell is wrong with you?Kurt Suzuki is GOD!

  56. MB923 3 years ago

    Yes but since then they have not made the playoffs nor have they had a single winning season. And I expect that to continue the next couple of years.

  57. It’s kind of like what the Nationals did when they were in Montreal, but you probably don’t know anything about that.  Do for the A’s what MLB did for the Expos and everything changes.  You end up with a team that can add payroll, sign players, and keep their best  young players long term and is contending within a few seasons.  It isn’t Billy Beane, it’s the situation in Oakland.

  58. MB923 3 years ago


    Monyball only works when you have money.”

    If the Rockies won the WS in 07 or the Rays won the WS in 08, would you have said this?

  59. MB923 3 years ago


    Monyball only works when you have money.”

    If the Rockies won the WS in 07 or the Rays won the WS in 08, would you have said this?

  60. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    popping out on fastballs chest high

    but he’s a god at working with young staffs, and a freaking twinkle toes behind the plate. he’s absolutely amazing defensively

  61. MB923 3 years ago

    Furcal Beltre and Berkman today or in their prime? I think they’d be better but they still would not be a playoff team.

    I certainly would say Friedman is better and without a doubt has to say is the best GM in baseball. Too bad the total opposite has to be said about his team’s “fans”.

  62. MB923 3 years ago

    I actually meant to write 2015 lol.

  63. “have a couple of diamondback-like drafts would put us in a real good spot then…” until Beane trades all the draft picks away.

  64. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    furcal, beltre before the 09 season (when they also traded for holliday), so yes in their primes, and berkman last year.

    if they had been able to sign one of furcal or beltre, that team dynamic would’ve been a whoooole lot different.

    if they had been able to sign both, easy contender

  65. MB923 3 years ago

    Furcal has been injury prone 3 of the last 4 years. No point getting Beltre long term when he still had Chavez who unfortunately is also now injury prine. And are you saying Berkman because the A’s wanted him before last year or are you just using Berkman’s best year ever?

  66. MB923 3 years ago

    I wouldn’t count Swisher considering he didn’t trade him to the Yankees where he became successful. He traded him to the White Sox. 

  67. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    i just said berkman because the a’s tried to sign him before they signed matsui, they offered him a 2 year deal, but he chose a 1 year deal instead

    also, who could’ve told if furcal would be injury prone when the a’s were pursuing him, or if he would’ve been if they had gotten him?

    as well, beltre still put up good numbers with seattle, and chavez had been injury prone for 2 seasons by then, so nobody expected anything from him in 09…at all, so even then, getting beltre would be viewed as a massive upgrade and a very much less riskier move

  68. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    i just said berkman because the a’s tried to sign him before they signed matsui, they offered him a 2 year deal, but he chose a 1 year deal instead

    also, who could’ve told if furcal would be injury prone when the a’s were pursuing him, or if he would’ve been if they had gotten him?

    as well, beltre still put up good numbers with seattle, and chavez had been injury prone for 2 seasons by then, so nobody expected anything from him in 09…at all, so even then, getting beltre would be viewed as a massive upgrade and a very much less riskier move

  69. MB923 3 years ago

    I agree. Fantastic is overboard. Back in 06 and 07 I would have said fantastic.

  70. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    he traded swisher when swisher was still a star for the a’s 

  71. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    he traded swisher when swisher was still a star for the a’s 

  72. MB923 3 years ago

    Well you simply asked me if they had Furcal would they be better. Since he’s injury prone that’s hard to answer. That’s a bad example. And I sincerely doubt Berkman would have had that type of year he had last year in Oakland.

    Beltre, yes could have been good to get, but he doesn’t make them a much much better team.

  73. MB923 3 years ago

    Sorry, I misunderstood that. You’re right.

    Kenny Williams hates that name probably as much as Frank Wren hates the name Mark Teixeira.

  74. MB923 3 years ago

    Sorry, I misunderstood that. You’re right.

    Kenny Williams hates that name probably as much as Frank Wren hates the name Mark Teixeira.

  75. Bleed_Orange 3 years ago

    The nats are good on paper now, lets see what happens when the season starts.  Remember the As were good on paper prior to the start of the 2011 season.

  76. Guest 3 years ago

    If the Nelson Cruz trade was so bad, then why was Cruz sitting on waivers 4 years ago? ANY team could have claimed him in the spring of 2008 when the Rangers DFA’d him, and they wouldn’t have had to give up a thing in return. But NO ONE predicted how good he would later become. There are fair criticisms to be made of Billy Beane. But trading Cruz is not one of them.

    As far as Ben Sheets goes, they only offered him that much because they were running out of ways to spend their revenue sharing money that winter. Their first choices that offseason were Marco Scutaro, Jamey Carroll and Adrian Beltre. But Scutaro and Beltre took less guaranteed cash to go to Boston, and Carroll decided he wanted to play for Joe Torre and Don Mattingly. And after Beltre went off the board, Sheets was then widely considered to be the best available free agent, so they put in a really high bid to make sure they could get him. It was either that, or pocket the $10M. And MLB (and the owners who pay into the revenue sharing pool) weren’t likely to stand for it. They do keep tabs on recipients of revenue sharing.

  77. MB923 3 years ago

    From 97-06, absolutely fantastic. Since 06, not fantastic. That’s why I’d put him in the very good GM category. If he had more money he probably could have a better team, but that doesn’t mean he can’t make a better team without the money. He never had a whole lot of money to begin with and as you poitned out earlier, from 2000-2006 the A’s were one of the best teams in the AL. However since then he’s been developing talent and then trading the same talent away. And unfortunately it has not worked that way and in all liklihood is going to continue not to work. Not familiar with the A’s farm, but is there anyone you think that when they come up the team. could get a big extension in their rookie year, kind of like Longoria?

  78. MB923 3 years ago

    Correct. I said to Pete from 97-06 I probably would have called him the best in the game. This team has fallen apart every year since. Beane of course is not fully responsible for that but he does have partial responsibility for it.

  79. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    let me guess, you’ve only been a fan of baseball since what? 07? 08? that’s the only way someone could react like that….or else they’ve had their head in the sand or just don’t actually know anything about baseball 

  80. gmenfan 3 years ago

    Wait … yep, I’m pretty sure you just made Pete’s point.

  81. MB923 3 years ago

    No I’m pretty sure Pete should have 2nd thoughts of what he said. He claims teams can’t win without a lot of money. The Rays and Rockies fell short but they still won the AL and NL pennants. So that logic is false.

  82. lairdd 3 years ago

    as a fellow a’s fan, i respect what you have to say about the a’s. but saying willingham underperformed is crazy. 29 hrs 98 rbis?

  83. lairdd 3 years ago

    soler would be perfect for the a’s. although its unlikely he’ll sign until the a’s get the ok to sj

  84. Chillin_in_California 3 years ago

    Why would he care what stadium they played in. He has probably lived a life of poverty none of us could imagine. He is going to the highest bidder and hopefully that place is oakland soon to be san jose

  85. What about Japan?

  86. Snoochies8 3 years ago

    baseball america actually gave the a’s some love?? 

    that’s a shocker! not even kidding, they ranked 27 year old jermaine mitchell as their 8th prospect. i’m surprised they ranked the a’s anything above 18

  87. FamousGrouse 3 years ago

    Andrew Friedman says shalom.

  88. bayareabeast 3 years ago

    hahahahaha we got a winner! sandy tell him what he’s won..a lifetime supply of tissues! woo hoo!!

  89. I forget if it was Baseball America or not -_-, but in a recent organizations evaluation of prospect talent the A’s were ranked 5th

  90. jpkinney7 3 years ago

     Not many teams can compete with the Minor League Pitching depth the Oakland Organization has right now.   Parker, Peacock, Gray, Cole, Milone… and a bunch of lower level talent (Michael Ynoa should be back on the scene this year).    Then Michael Choice looks like he could potentially be a Beast.   With Grant Green filling in nicely in CF.  

    I would not be surprised one bit if the A’s finished 81-81 this season, falling out of the race in late August.   This team will be pretty decent versus right-handed pitching…

    Jemile Weeks – 2B
    Josh Reddick – RF
    Coco Crisp – CF
    Seth Smith – LF
    Johnny Gomes – DH
    Daric Barton – 1B
    Scott Sizemore – 3B
    Kurt Suzuki – C
    Pennington – SS

    … And the Starting & Bullpen pitching hasn’t been an issue for about 10+ years.

    Then I can see a playoff birth in 2014 w/ San Jose right around the corner.

  91. ellisburks 3 years ago

    It’s right beside Downton Abbey.

  92. John McFadin 3 years ago

     If they actually paid attention to revenue sharing and where it goes, then the Marlins would have been long gone as a franchise by now.

  93. Guest 3 years ago

    You’re kidding, right? The Padres and Marlins were scolded almost every year by MLB and the MLBPA. It’s how the Josh Johnson extension came about.

  94. Guest 3 years ago

    Don’t put words into my mouth. I said that all those picks were a *large part* of why they’re so good. I never said it was the only reason.

    It’s true that that they’ve had a lot of luck with trades working out, low-risk free agent signings, and mid-round draft picks being sleepers. And good for them!! They’re my favorite AL East team, and I’m tickled to death that they’re able to give the Yankees and Red Sox fits!

    But if you take Price, Longoria and Upton off that team, do they make the playoffs 3 out of the last 4 years?

    Highly unlikely.

  95. gmenfan 3 years ago

    I think Pete’s point was that while the Rockies and Rays did indeed win the AL/NL Pennants, the ultimate goal is to win the World Series which they did not. Hypothetical “what if’s” are null once history is written. Yeah, its admirable that they did as much as they did with so little, but history is going to remember the Phillies and Red Sox.

    “You PLAY to WIN the GAME !”

  96. John McFadin 3 years ago

     And yet they the Marlins have done it for how many years now?  Saying the MLB and owners wouldn’t stand for it just isn’t true.

  97. Guest 3 years ago

    It’s *absolutely* true. Do some research on the subject. The A’s are the only low budget team who have never been raked across the coals for not spending enough, because they *do* spend what they can.

  98. i was bashed for saying crisp could hit third, but i would bet he sees more action at 3rd in the lineup more than anyone else.  unless choice, carter, or allen really make significant improvements.

  99. Robert Gaito 3 years ago

    Yeah, the A’s and the Mariner’s really have a chance to supplant the back to back reining AL champs, and the team that just signed the best player in the game.  Wide open. *facepalm

  100. MB923 3 years ago

    lol okay Herm

  101. John McFadin 3 years ago

     You have to be joking.  Name any negative consequence that MLB or the owners have given to the Marlins. Just one please.

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