Cafardo On Ellsbury, Bourn, Ross, Cook, Millwood

In today's column, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe writes that despite the perception that Jacoby Ellsbury would like to leave Boston down the line, a source says that he would actually like to stay if at all possible.  Neither side has asked the other to consider a long-term deal, but that could certainly change in the offseason.  Here's more from Cafardo..

  • In last week's column, Cafardo wrote that Braves officials thought Michael Bourn would not re-sign when he becomes a free agent due to a less-than-stellar track record with Scott Boras clients.  However, Boras told Cafardo that he has had an excellent relationship with General Manager Frank Wren and the club as a whole.  The agent says he is not ruling out Atlanta at all and added that Bourn enjoys playing there.
  • The Red Sox are very interested in pursuing a new deal with Cody Ross, who will be coming off of a one-year, $3MM pact this winter.  With many teams in need of a righthanded bat, he could likely net a Josh Willingham-type three-year, $21MM deal. 
  • The Orioles, Nationals, and Dodgers may be among teams looking at Red Sox pitcher Aaron Cook now that he is on trade waivers.
  • Mariners pitcher Kevin Millwood has not been placed on trade waivers yet but he could be one of the more sought-after pitchers once he is.  “He’s got ice water in his veins and he knows how to get big outs,” said a veteran scout. “A guy like that isn’t going to do the Mariners any good going forward but he could solidify a rotation.
  • Cubs personnel are disappointed that Alfonso Soriano won’t waive his 10-and-5 rights to go to the Giants.  The outfielder doesn't want to play in a colder climate that could adversely affect his hitting.


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36 Comments on "Cafardo On Ellsbury, Bourn, Ross, Cook, Millwood"


OrangeCards
3 years 10 days ago

A Scott Boras client pretending as though team X is still very much in the mix? I haven’t heard that before.

3 years 10 days ago

Scott Boras saying that he’s had an “excellent relationship” with the general manager of a team that might be interested in one of his clients? I’ve never heard that one before.

mstrchef
3 years 10 days ago

Is there a mystery team yet?

3 years 10 days ago

A Veteran Scout on Kevin Millwood:
“He’s got ice water in his veins and he knows how to get big outs,”“A guy like that isn’t going to do the Mariners any good going forward but he could solidify a rotation.”
Where was this veteren scout when Millwood pitched for the Orioles?
I guess he was on sabbatical or taking a snooze.
Bourn is having a pretty good year… I think the Braves have to get to the NLCS for them to sign Bourn to a deal. Phillies could be interested too, if Bourn decides to test the free agent market.
Wow, Cody Ross, might be getting a 3 year / 21 million dollar deal! I wonder if anyone saw that coming?
The Orioles would be wise to make a claim on Aaron Cook, I think he has something in the tank. He would be better than Millwood in my IMHO. :p

3 years 10 days ago

Just because the O’s put a claim on Cook doesn’t mean they’ll get him, the Sox can pull him back.

johnsilver
3 years 10 days ago

Matsuzaka (unfortunately) is on about the tail end of his rehab and don’t think they can mysteriously bury him again. Cook is just as useless as Matsuzaka.. As in both are tossups.. U get what u get..

Boston will unload Cook and let Matsuzaka be the new BP pitcher at the back end of the rotation, 2 good starts by Cookie notwithstanding.

ColonelBoston
3 years 10 days ago

Dice-K’s rehab assignment ends 2 days before Sept. Call-ups, meaning worst case scenerio, they use someone’s option for 2 days. Cook being waived has little to do w/ Dice-K.

mstrchef
3 years 10 days ago

I don’t see who Cook would replace in the O’s rotation. I don’t think he’s any better than who we already have, including the salvage projects currently at Norfolk. I’d rather have Steve Johnson or (after last night) Britton than Cook.

3 years 10 days ago

What about Hunter? Cook could even go into the bullpen.
Also @AW, let the Sox pull him back, means they would have to keep him for the rest of the season in all probability.
The O’s should have put a claim in for Shoppach, the Red Sox really wanted to get Lavarnway in there. The O’s could have gotten him, if they made a claim. Why they didn’t, who knows.

mstrchef
3 years 10 days ago

My guess is that they liked Teagarden better than 2 months of Shoppach. If the O’s put Cook into the bullpen, I could live with that. I don’t see him as better than Hunter. Hunter works quick, throws strikes, gives up homers but little else lately. I’ve been pretty ok with his work over the past month. I wonder if someone can teach him a sinker or splitter, just to help him get the ball down more effectively.

johnsilver
3 years 10 days ago

I knew Ross would perform well at fenway and have been wanting him for YEARS to play at **1** decent, friendly stadium that plays up to his high, FB’s he hits to LF, LCF. He has NEVER played at 1 stadium in his entire career even vaguely neutral, it made sense his power numbers would jump back up, probably would be way higher had he not missed a month after fouling a ball off of his foot earlier this season.

Fenway is the PERFECT place for him and he plays a VERY good RF/LF and CF fair, He’s worth 3/21 every bit as much as Hammer Willingham and Hammer is awful on defense.

I hope Boston approaches him before the season is over, or within the period of exclusive rights to lock him up, cause he may get more than 3/21 with Ross the best after Hamilton of the lousy lot of OF FA.

Footnote:

Jackie Bradley TORE up High A ball, played 67 games (as many as he played in a college season btw) 1.086 OPS, .480 OBP, .356AVG.. He had never played more games, so a drop could have been expected as he continued playing his 1st pro season and has tired, some holes found in his game etc.. He hasn’t ‘bottomed out” tho as his power has picked up at AA. He has already played a total of 122 games this year now.. 1st ever pro season. i expect him to be back raking next year when he is fresh again and his OBP at AA is .363, .802 OPS, so not like he is doing terrible for playing there in his 1st year…

mrsjohnmiltonrocks
3 years 10 days ago

Agree with your assessment of Cody Ross. Ha, ha. The Marlins let him go for the waiver claim price……

PennMariner
3 years 10 days ago

Here are some statistics!

Aaron Cook: 1.1 K/9, 1.58 BB/9, 5.38 FIP, 5.05 TRA.
Kevin Millwood: 6.6 K/9, 3.0 BB/9, 3.65 FIP, 4.16 TRA.

mstrchef
3 years 10 days ago

Yup. Those are certainly some statistics. My question is what argument are you trying to support? The one thing with taking statistics out of context is that you can make them say anything. I’m not sure what TRA is. Millwood should have better statistics because he pitches in Seattle vs Boston. If I’m anyone looking to add Cook, I’m scared off by his epically (and perhaps historically) low K/9 rate. I wonder if there’s ever been anyone in the modern era with 50+ innings who has had that low of a K-rate.

sf55forlife
3 years 10 days ago

pitching in a hitters or pitchers park shouldn’t affect his strike out ratios. Right around 1? Its almost impossible to be successful in this day and age with a K rate that low.

mstrchef
3 years 10 days ago

Totally agree. I was just questioning (and still wonder about) what point he was trying to make. According to the What-If-Sports database, no pitcher in baseball has thrown more than 60 innings in a season with a lower K/9 rate since 1945.

McKinley2
3 years 10 days ago

Nats fans loved it when Soriano produced at a 40-40 clip in an otherwise unsuccessful season but never contemplated that he was anywhere near worth the money he got from the Cubs, certainly not over the term of the contract he received. By contrast, Werth’s signing in DC was as much about a culture change in the Washington clubhouse as it was projecting his production over the 7 year term. Can’t understand at all why people think Soriano has any obligation to approve a trade when his contract specifically gave him the right to not endure one. Bad signing when he inked it, continued bad signing in retrospect. In the end, it’s just going to be about eating salary and letting him go.

3 years 10 days ago

It’s a business and in large part I agree but since you said you can’t understand it: The idea behind it is a team believed in/ cared about you enough to give you that big deal and now you’re turning around and saying I don’t really care what you think is best for your organization, I care about myself.

$6101468
3 years 10 days ago

Cook was willing to pitch out of the bullpen and maybe he will at a new destination? Ross has been impressive in Boston. Offensively he reminds me of Millar.

camerondatzker
3 years 9 days ago

Alfonso Soriano is such a loser for not to go The Giants as he won actually play on a winning team. I think The Giants will come up with a named replacement.

RFsnapple
3 years 9 days ago

Cubs personnel is disappointed with Alfonso Soriano. Cub fans are disappointed with the personnel for the awful contract.

3 years 9 days ago

I hope the BRAVES are able to sign Born also need a right handed power hitter to play left field next season and trade UGGLA for a good right hitting 2nd base man bring back MILLWOOD to put in the rotation get rid of jurrjens and Hanson jurrjens has a bad knee Hanson got that hitch in his deliver.

hawkny1
3 years 8 days ago

Two years…$12M with a club option for a third is what the Red Sox will offer Ross and he will take it. He likes to hit in Fenway Park. Plus Cody likes the atmosphere created by the home town fans during games.

hawkny1
3 years 8 days ago

Jacoby has to turn it on early in 2013 to get a long term deal with any team, the Red Sox included. Boston fans like Jacoby and the Red Sox organization is the only one he knows. But, his career has been up and down, mostly due to fluke injuries. He has to straighten out the direction he is heading in fully reap the benefits of his craft at this highest level of play.

Crucisnh
3 years 10 days ago

While I don’t think that Soriano owes the Cubs and should take one for the team, one does have to question him not wanting to move from a_crappy Cubs team to a contender and recent WS winning team in the Giants.

mrsjohnmiltonrocks
3 years 10 days ago

The Cubs GAVE him that contract, they GAVE him a no trade clause BEFORE the 5-10 rights even kicked in. It would be nice if he would do the thing that’s easiest for the Cubs but he is under no obligation to do so.

The Giants are in contention but they also had their SECOND player suspended this year for PED use. Maybe he doesn’t want to be a part of that either, as well as trying to be a hitter in a park that’s hard to hit in and in a division where there are two other parks that are extremely hard on hitters.

My advice to the Cubs is to stop giving out no trade clauses and stop keeping players beyond their shelf life. That didn’t happen before and they have to live with the consequences. Oh, well. You can blame it all on Soriano.

JakeD
3 years 10 days ago

Jim Crane??

Will
3 years 10 days ago

I think he’s talking about PLAYING climate, not winter climate. Since the cubs don’t play the postseason, he doesn’t have to worry about playing in October. But going from one of the most HR friendly parks to the least HR friendly park shouldn’t be appealing to him.

3 years 10 days ago

I was thinking the same thing! Colder than Chicago?!?

hopper15
3 years 10 days ago

lol yeah his weather excuse is embarrassing. He was better off keeping it simple just saying he doesn’t want to leave Chicago.

Samuel Ennis
3 years 10 days ago

Well with that 7 year extension he just signed i think he plans on being there a while

davbee
3 years 10 days ago

No one put a gun to the head of the Cubs GM and made them pay Soriano that kind of money. They did it of their own free will. Because of his 10/5 rights (that were collectively bargained between the owners and the players union), Soriano has earned the right to dictate where he plays. He doesn’t own the team anything, just like the owners don’t owe a player anything who doesn’t have such rights.

Time and time again players with little seniority get jerked around in baseball–traded from cities where they and their families have established roots, waived, sent to the minors, and they are powerless to stop it. That’s just how the structure of the game has be set up (again, collectively bargained). So in those rare examples when the player, because of longevity, actually has some power, I don’t see anything wrong with that.

jb226
3 years 10 days ago

That should have been the first indication of how ill-advised a contract it truly was: The Cubs sign a player on the wrong side of 30 to a contract that essentially requires him not to lose any speed to justify the cost. The only thing that should be surprising is how fast it happened, not that it happened.

The reality is the Cubs knew it was a bad contract overall. They wanted to make a splash and raise the immediate value of a team looking to sell.

Leonard Washington
3 years 10 days ago

Hey its not Sorianos fault that they signed him at 31 years old for like eight years. He gave them his remaining prime years (2) at his career averages, and declined like EVERYONE knew he would. They had to know this was going to happen they just hoped they might get a ring out of it. Not his fault they drank the Kool-Aid it was a dumb move by the Chicago Cubs, not a dumb move by a baseball player trying to make as much money as possible. He owes them literally NOTHING but to keep trotting out there trying his best.

Leonard Washington
3 years 10 days ago

I agree. If the shoe was on the other foot and you had produced for a long time at a discount then started to falter the team would jettison you and your family immediately without regard. I make it a policy never to feel bad for a front office.

WrigleyTerror37
3 years 10 days ago

that was castro who signed a extension not soriano
“face palm”