Red Sox, Dodgers Nearing Blockbuster

SATURDAY, 7:52am: The deal is "pretty much done," reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (on Twitter). Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reports that both Beckett and Crawford have agreed to waive their no-trade clauses while Rosenthal adds that both clubs have signed off on the medicals.

FRIDAY, 10:00pm: Crawford has the Dodgers on his partial no-trade list and the outfielder has yet to be asked to accept a trade, according to Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (via Twitter).  It has been previously reported that Crawford can block trades to two clubs but Heyman writes that Crawford has the ability to block trades to three teams.

9:34pm: Red Sox manager Bobby Valentine says that he still expects Beckett to make his start on Saturday, tweets Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe.

9:01pm: The Dodgers are expected to pick up more than $260MM of the $271.5MM in combined salary that the Red Sox are sending to them, a source tells Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald.

6:45pm: The Dodgers have agreed to send Webster, De La Rosa, Loney, Sands, and De Jesus to the Red Sox, a source tells Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (via Twitter).  Meanwhile, a source tells Rob Bradford of WEEI (Twitter link) not to expect a deal to be completed tonight.

6:42pm: The Red Sox have yet to secure permission from Beckett, who has 10-and-5 rights, or Crawford, who has a partial no-trade clause, a source tells Sean McAdam of CSNNE.com.  However, neither player is expected to block the deal.

6:38pm: Pitcher Allen Webster will go to the Red Sox in the trade, a source tells Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (via Twitter).

6:15pm: The Red Sox and Dodgers are currently reviewing medical records, according to Alex Speier of WEEI.com (via Twitter).  The deal would include Rubby De La Rosa, James Loney, Jerry Sands, Ivan De Jesus, and a top prospect, according to Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston.com (Twitter link).

6:04pm: Adrian Gonzalez was scratched from the lineup and summoned from the dugout into the clubhouse along with Nick Punto, according to Alex Speier of WEEI.com (via Twitter).

5:52pm: There are two deals on the table, one mega deal involving Carl Crawford and another with just Beckett and Gonzalez, tweets Peter Abraham of The Boston Globe.

5:48pm: Though the deal may not happen in its current nine-player form, something is expected to happen, tweets Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports.

5:10pm: Dodgers minor leaguers in the trade talks have included Allen Webster, Zach Lee, Rubby De La Rosa, and Jerry Sands, tweets Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times.

5:06pm: The Red Sox would receive prospects and not just salary relief if the deal happens, tweets Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports.

4:52pm: Boston would send some cash to Los Angeles if the sides complete a deal Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports reports. Morosi confirms that the sides are close to a trade (Twitter links).

4:34pm: The Red Sox and Dodgers are closing in on a trade that would send Adrian Gonzalez, Josh Beckett, Carl Crawford and Nick Punto to Los Angeles, Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston.com reports (on Twitter). Hurdles remain, but the sides continue working toward a deal.

The Dodgers recently won the claiming rights to Gonzalez and Beckett. Gonzalez can't block a trade to Los Angeles, but Beckett must approve any assignment as a player with ten and five rights. Crawford and Punto cleared waivers earlier this month and can be traded without waiver-related restrictions. 

The Dodgers have been willing to take on considerable salaries since their new ownership group gained control of the club at the beginning of the 2012 season. Adding the four Red Sox players would represent a substantial financial commitment:

  • Gonzalez will earn $21MM per season through 2016 and obtain a raise to $21.5MM for 2017-18. The total exceeds $130MM when accounting for the remainder his 2012 salary. 
  • Beckett will earn $15.75MM per season through 2014. As noted above, he must approve any trade.
  • Crawford will earn $20MM in 2013, $20.25MM in 2014, $20.5MM in 2015, $20.75MM in 2016 and $21MM in 2017. His contract allows him to block trades to two teams.
  • Punto earns $1.5MM per season through 2013.

The Dodgers claimed Cliff Lee on waivers earlier this month after trading for Shane Victorino, Hanley Ramirez, Joe Blanton and Brandon League. The Dodgers would have to place MLB players on waivers before trading them to Boston, which could complicate trade talks. 

Zach Links contributed to this post, which was originally published on August 24th.


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657 Comments on "Red Sox, Dodgers Nearing Blockbuster"


2 years 11 months ago

If this gets done, this is an NBA style deal for Cherington.

2 years 11 months ago

I thought i was speechless with the Vernon Wells. Now im speechless

SoCalAngelsFan75
2 years 11 months ago

I was kind of hoping the Dodgers would take Wells off our hands this offseason. Oh well.

Lunchbox45
2 years 11 months ago

there’s still hope

Karkat
2 years 11 months ago

Shed… ALL the salary.

Drew Tweedie
2 years 11 months ago

Shed your saaaaaaalary/find a better place to.. allocate resources..

2 years 11 months ago

yea…right back into Henrey’s pocket…

2 years 11 months ago

money isnt an issue for the redsox. henrey is a multi billionaire. we will shed salary and then spend it on…nothing…

Phillies_Aces35
2 years 11 months ago

I don’t understand why fans of any team (I see Phillies fans do this all the time) think that these owners are just going to throw money around because they can. They’re in this to make money.

They’re not going to take a loss just to appease some guy on a message board.

APNDaveR
2 years 11 months ago

This would have to involve prospects on the Dodgers’ end, no? I haven’t heard of any MLB level Dodgers clearing waivers….

tidBit4815162342
2 years 11 months ago

Can’t PTBNLs be used to get around the waivers?

MaineSox
2 years 11 months ago

Yeah, I’m pretty sure they can. That’s a good point.

Damon Bowman
2 years 11 months ago

PTBNL can remain anonymous until the season is over especially when the player involved is a 1st year signee (who can’t officially be dealt) and when teams want to dodge waivers. It’s done all the time.

MaineSox
2 years 11 months ago

You actually have 6 months to name a PTBNL, but yeah, the point remains the same.

2 years 11 months ago

6 months to name a PTBNL, BUT 1 year for a draftee.. The Red Sox are not within the window where they can send this year’s draftees..

MaineSox
2 years 11 months ago

Right, but nobody was talking about this year’s draftees.

2 years 11 months ago

To be honest, I would actually hope that the Dodgers gave up nothing for the absolute garbage sent to them by the Red Sox…

2 years 11 months ago

ESPN’s Sean McDonough was on WEEI (Boston) about 5 minutes ago, claims this could be a hacked twitter. Hope not, this would be amazing at this time of year!

Also, if it were to go through, you’d have to include, depending on salaries eaten, Lee, Loney, Uribe, and a Joc Pederson type.

Also, no deal from the Sox end, no deal unless Ben gets a middle reliever back, with Bobby, Lackey, and some Popeye’s gift cards are going to LA. [/sarcasm]

cubs223425
2 years 11 months ago

This would HAVE to include Dee Gordon and Zach Lee, plus a good chunk more. I nkw that the Dodgers are eat a LOOOOOT of salary, but a trade like this totally blows up Boston’s team, what with not having more than 2 potentially-good SPs and losing aruguably their best hitter.
I don’t know how this could happen when it probably means a 3-year rebuilding process for Boston, even if the Dodgers DID give them good prospects. Without 4 or 5 good prospects (which Idon’t think L.A. even has to spare), this could set Boston back 5 years or lead to even more horrible contracts.

vtadave
2 years 11 months ago

You can have Dee Gordon.

notsureifsrs
2 years 11 months ago

de la rosa is the key imo

MaineSox
2 years 11 months ago

Yeah agreed

MaineSox
2 years 11 months ago

I don’t think they are all that interested in Gordon.

cubs223425
2 years 11 months ago

Yeah, but you have to get guys with upside in this, and he has that, even if he’s had contact and fielding issues.

2 years 11 months ago

Gordon has no upside… He’s a fast little guy, with no other skills… He’s peaked..

thegrayrace
2 years 11 months ago

Peaked in less than 1 full season of major league play at 24 years old?

2 years 11 months ago

<3 😀

Teacherhst
2 years 11 months ago

If I were the Sox, I would unload those deals. I can’t imagine the Sox wouldn’t get a few prospects.

Gator4444
2 years 11 months ago

Nick Punto lol

Brian
2 years 11 months ago

He’d clearly be the centerpiece of this deal.

APNDaveR
2 years 11 months ago

When you have the opportunity to solidify your infield with an aging .220 hitter… I mean, you really have to jump at that, don’t you.

Brian
2 years 11 months ago

When signing Jamey Carroll, Mark Ellis, and Aaron Miles over the offseason isn’t enough…Nick Punto!

howiehandles
2 years 11 months ago

Cornering the market on pesky, small, and expendable white middle infielders.

thegrayrace
2 years 11 months ago

If it means Juan Uribe being released, it is worth it.

YanksFanSince78
2 years 11 months ago

Slick Back would be proud of you.

nepp
2 years 11 months ago

When you factor in salary, he’s the 2nd best piece going to LA….possibly the best if AGon doesnt rebound.

howiehandles
2 years 11 months ago

He’s the key to the whole deal

jmcbosox
2 years 11 months ago

i dont like this AT ALL. give them beckett and be done with it.

Matthew Williams
2 years 11 months ago

The one Red Sox fan in the world who is not happy with this deal.

jmcbosox
2 years 11 months ago

ugh, the thought of rebuilding from scratch. no hopes of playoffs in the near future, gaping holes to fill, something tells me this will only lead to more poor LT FA signings.

saidin09
2 years 11 months ago

Relax guys………….$$$ and the off season, we’ll be fine

jmcbosox
2 years 11 months ago

$$$ and the offseason, coupled with a fanbase that demands to win now. add in a subpar FA class and you can clearly see my concerns

MaineSox
2 years 11 months ago

PLEASE no more huge free agent contracts! Haven’t we learned?

Also, what is there to spend money on this offseason?

saidin09
2 years 11 months ago

I understand, but I think Cherrington is the type willing to give more money for less years, not guargantuan 8 year-like deals

MaineSox
2 years 11 months ago

I’d prefer more money over fewer years in most cases, but the players don’t always go for it, and it’s still not usually the best thing to do.

MaineSox
2 years 11 months ago

I don’t like the idea of losing Gonzalez, but if the return is good enough I’ll get over it pretty quick.

notsureifsrs
2 years 11 months ago

the immediate question is where does the money go? greinke? maybe they plan to shy away from big ticket free agents, but his price comes down every day in LA these days

i’d like to see cherington make some moves that fully restore my confidence in baseball operations

MaineSox
2 years 11 months ago

Would Greinke really be that kind of move though?

I guess it would depend on the money and years involved, but as much as I love Greinke (seriously, I would love to have him on the Sox) that kind of contract scares me for any pitcher.

notsureifsrs
2 years 11 months ago

right. on the right contract he absolutely would. on the presumed contract, he absolutely wouldn’t

frankly, if you’re going to overhaul the roster to this degree, i vote for exploring other radical changes through trades. that’s partly because i think some great talent could be added and partly because i think it kinda sounds like fun

MaineSox
2 years 11 months ago

Totally with you. I know not everyone feels this way, but prospects and the moves made by the front office are as fun to follow for me as the major league team (probably more fun at this point).

notsureifsrs
2 years 11 months ago

“Internal belief within BOS org. is that this would signal end of run that started in 2003; they’re getting back to scouting/development.”

-olney. best update so far

MaineSox
2 years 11 months ago

Oh God yes.

MaineSox
2 years 11 months ago

So, how much more likely do you think this makes an Upton trade this winter? They’ve almost certainly got to be more interested at this point right (or at least more interested in adding someone to the outfield).

notsureifsrs
2 years 11 months ago

spitballing, it may double the likelihood…from 5% to 10%. still a long shot, but they’ll probably spend twice as long considering/attempting it

really not happy to lose gonzalez so quickly, but that’d make me forget about him very quickly

MaineSox
2 years 11 months ago

Yeah, I’m a Gonzalez fan (and an even bigger fan of his contract), so it does suck (I was actually hopeful of Beckett being at least serviceable next year and Crawford finally being back to his old self too, but dumping their contracts doesn’t hurt my feelings).

Also, I kind of worry that the owners will feel like they have to make a splash to keep the fans happy, rather than just adding the best fit(s) both talent and contract-wise. If they go the free agent route the only real splashes to make are Hamilton and Greinke, both of whom would be awesome to have on the team, but both of whom are going to cost way too much and have real concerns going forward. That’s kind of why I’m really hoping for an Upton trade (well, that and the obvious “because he’s friggin’ awesome”), adding him would be a definite splash, but would actually be a good move.

Karkat
2 years 11 months ago

Would be nice to see Ben be able to clean up some of Theo’s mess, to be quite honest. I can’t imagine if something like this happens, though. o.o

flickadave
2 years 11 months ago

Exactly what I was thinking. This would fix most of the mess Theo created right before he left.

notsureifsrs
2 years 11 months ago

i am amazed it has gotten this far

thekoshow
2 years 11 months ago

are you serious

vtadave
2 years 11 months ago

Great post.

runaway3124
2 years 11 months ago

Ben Cherington’s moment to shine.

Karkat
2 years 11 months ago

This might be the biggest moment of his entire career, depending on how/if this goes down.

Ben_Cherington
2 years 11 months ago

Im kind of busy right now! Ill keep you posted!

ROB
2 years 11 months ago

Wow….that would be a blockbuster

Terrence1
2 years 11 months ago

Dodgers likely sending their top prospects, Dodgers taking on all that salary? Wild.

DavidLA
2 years 11 months ago

No to the Top prospects, Dodgers have money; but Stan Kasten will make sure not to get ripped off here.. hopefully.

ThinkBlue10
2 years 11 months ago

I’d send Allen Webster…..

APNDaveR
2 years 11 months ago

Also… Nick Punto????

Karkat
2 years 11 months ago

Punto To Be Named Later

johnsilver
2 years 11 months ago

Yeah.. They can get Ray Guy out of retirement to “punto” him away..

2 years 11 months ago

What in the world would we get back? Chicken and beer for life?

TedinChulaVista
2 years 11 months ago

Salary relief

2 years 11 months ago

to be spent on what? there arnt any decent free agents out there..and remember..the price for free agents rises each and every offseason. in a few years those big name FA’s will be getting 30+million a season

hartvig
2 years 11 months ago

What I’m seeing doesn’t seem to be much. Prior to this season, only one of the 4 prospects ranked in the top 20 in the Dodger chain (Allen Webster @ #3) according to Baseball Prospectus. Also included were Rubby DeLaRosa, Jerry Sands & Ivan De Jesus Jr.

De Jesus is the son of the former Cub/Philly/etc. shortstop of the same name. No idea if any of the other 3 are related to Jorge, Mitch or the old Vegas casino.

chicothekid
2 years 11 months ago

Not sure what the Dodgers are thinking, but GREAT deal for the Sox.

2 years 11 months ago

Fantastic if this happens. For the Dodgers…I’m just confused. Their current product will improve, but this will be an expensive team.

RB_GScott
2 years 11 months ago

Shaikin speculated about this yesterday.

jwsox
2 years 11 months ago

If this happens it’s a great deal for both teams. The dodgers have a ton of money and it’s managed by same people for once. They get an all star 1stbasemen. A 4th of for now who provides insurance of Shane leave via free agency and is ready to back up withers eventual dl trip. A playoff proven starter and a glove first utility man. Take on all of Adrian’s contract and all of becketts. While taking on at least half of crawfords. The bosox can clear around 250 million from their payroll while getting a few prospects. You almost have to do
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mu_Zak
2 years 11 months ago

The gambler’s share isn’t always what it seems, Crawford will be 32, AGon 31, Beckett isn’t even worth it, and Punto? That’s not so nice…

23553
2 years 11 months ago

Crawford is not a fourth outfielder for now. He just had TJS.

Cody
2 years 11 months ago

Taking on Crawford’s salary when he won’t play for a year is as good as one prospect.

CHendershott
2 years 11 months ago

Tommy John isn’t as serious for position players. He could realistically be playing before the All-Star break next season, maybe even spring training depending on who you ask.

kevinfoley46
2 years 11 months ago

recovery time for fielders with TJS is shorter than pitchers. he could be ready in the spring.

MaineSox
2 years 11 months ago

I like how this one has three up votes and the other one has one down vote…

2 years 11 months ago

^ What Kevin said.

Zack Cozart of the Cincinnati Reds underwent TJ surgery right around this time last year and was engaging in baseball activities by December, and was easily 100% before spring training started.

jays023
2 years 11 months ago

Cozart had a quick recovery because he had TJ on his none throwing arm. Crawford is having it on his left elbow, his throwing arm