Olney On Price, Andrus, Leyland

Some talent evaluators believe Rays left-hander David Price could be traded this winter, ESPN.com’s Buster Olney reports. Here’s the latest from Olney, who runs down potential suitors for Price in his latest column…

  • Price’s trade value will never be higher than it will be this winter, Olney writes. However, the left-hander’s salary will rise considerably from $4.35MM following his Cy Young-caliber 2012 season. This means the budget-conscious Rays will probably decide to part with Price at some point between now and when he hits free agency after the 2015 season. “There will be a day when the Rays trade him,” Olney writes. 
  • Tampa Bay could seek up-the-middle players for Price, who has extraordinary trade value as a controllable top-of-the-rotation left-hander.
  • There’s a wide expectation that the Rangers will trade Elvis Andrus this winter. But Andrus isn’t a great fit for the Rays given his salary and service time, so they’d presumably ask about shortstop prospect Jurickson Profar in talks for Price.
  • It’s hard to imagine the Royals obtaining Price from the Rays without giving up Wil Myers, Salvador Perez, Mike Moustakas or Eric Hosmer, Olney writes.
  • Though the Tigers aren’t a strong defensive team their pitchers haven’t complained publicly about the glovework behind them. Olney credits Detroit’s player and manager Jim Leyland for this display of support.

37 Responses to Olney On Price, Andrus, Leyland Leave a Reply

  1. Dylan 3 years ago

    Tampa would ask for one Hosmer or Perez for sure…probably both. Hence why it will never happen. Royals do need an ace however. I heard Greinke is a FA after this year.

    • Eric Akers 3 years ago

      I would expect it to be both, or Myers and one of those two. The Royals could probably get away with trading Hosmer and let Butler play first, but Perez seems to be irreplaceable. I don’t see a trade working here either. Price is worth those players, but I don’t see how the Royals can compete and give up more than one.

    • Greinke is a FA, but idk if we’ll go back to the Royals. As for Price, we’d probably ask for Perez, Hosmer and probably a couple other prospects

  2. ChrisV 3 years ago

    Rather than trading Andrus, the Rangers need to trade Cruz, move Kinsler to the OF, Andrus to 2B, and Profar can start at Short. Andrus > Cruz.

    • Baseball Lifer 3 years ago

      I am not sure a guy (Cruz) with a .259 avearge, 22 HR, 85 RBI, horrible OF range, reckless base runner, and a increasing salary has much value.

      • ChrisV 3 years ago

        He may not have a lot of value, but enough if packaged right.

        • Baseball Lifer 3 years ago

          With who? For David Price??? Tampa would surely pay Price before taking on Cruz (and his salary) and this “right package”.

        • Paul Shailor 3 years ago

          YEa if included with andrus, profar, olt, and kinsler paying all his salary.

          • Baseball Lifer 3 years ago

            no chance

          • Paul Shailor 3 years ago

            right, no chance they do the deal, which was my point.

    • MadmanTX 3 years ago

      So, shake up multiple positions just because you don’t like Cruz. Cruz has a cannon of an arm in the outfield and can still hit–his numbers are off this season. But so are other Rangers. Andrus is error prone–as is Kinsler. Cruz is not. I’d get rid of Andrus and replace with Profar.

      • Baseball Lifer 3 years ago

        First off, I never said that i do not like Cruz. I do enjoy having him on this team. But his best two assets to this team might be is arm and what he brings to the clubhouse from a chemistry perspective. Elvis is one of the best SS in the american league (go look at the numbers). Yes, he has a few more errors than most SS, but he also gets to a more balls due to his great range, which lead to more outs. Cruz is a butcher chasing balls down in the OF (Example: See World Series Game 6). Elvis is also just now entering his prime (at a premiuim position) and he is nearly 9 years younger than Cruz. And that is not even taking in account the economics side of it which would lead heavily towards Elvis as well.

    • Guest 3 years ago

      nah you move Kinsler to the OF and start Profar at second like hes been playing and Elvis as short.

  3. wild05fan 3 years ago

    It wouldn’t just take 1 of those 4, it would probably take at least 2 of them, plus another couple good prospects. It’s not going to be cheap at all to obtain Price, and probably a price that’s too high for a rebuilding team like KC. I don’t see them in a position to make that type of move quite yet.

    • Chris 3 years ago

      It is too high under their circumstances, and would be robbing Peter to pay Paul. Sure, they need pitching, but they can’t gut their offense to get it.

  4. Rangersalchamps 3 years ago

    I would do Profar, Olt and a couple B prospects for Price. We get a stud ace and the Rays get much needed offense with a cornerstone player in Profar. Moore would step into Prices #1 role.

    • Paul Shailor 3 years ago

      Yea if I were the Rays I would do that in a heartbeat! I dont think the Rangers would do that though.

    • MadmanTX 3 years ago

      I would CONSIDER a deal like that for King Feliz…not for Price. Olt and a couple of AA prospects would be enough for Price. Profar is pretty much untouchable.

      • LazerTown 3 years ago

        And the Rays laugh. Price is one of the best starters in the majors, and has proven himself in a very tough division. Olt is not nearly enough to land 3 years of that.

  5. withpower 3 years ago

    Interesting scenario there about the Royals. Pitching probably is the biggest need in Kansas City, however let’s be realistic about their offense and how much of it they can afford to part with.

    They didn’t hit for a ton of power this year and Moustakas, while his AVG and OBP were not good, is a 20 HR bat. As for Myers.. personally I’d find it hard to get motivated to move him when 2/3s of my OF is Jeff Francouer, Jarrod Dyson, Lorenzo Cain, and David Lough. Same with Perez, since he’s quite young, is a nice hitter with a good skillset, and he plays catcher.

    If they pulled the trigger, though, I don’t think you could criticize them. It would look even better if they tried to bring Greinke back as well.

  6. Stoibs 3 years ago

    I’d say if the Royals are willing to give up Myers, Odorizzi, and someone like Clint Robinson then you go for it. The Rays need to be thinking years ahead now rather than hoping to get 20 picks in the first round like the good old days. Move Shields and Price. Offer Upton a qualifying offer, and never speak to Pena again. If they could get Bourjos and Richards from the Angels for Shields and complete the previously mentioned other moves, then the rays would be in business for years to come. They also need to move Davis back into the rotation and maximize his value. Even without Price and Shields, a rotation of Cobb, Davis, Moore, Hellickson, Niemann,and Archer is pretty dang awesome. Supplement that rotation without some new blood that will inevitably take over for Niemann and Davis and also acquire some offensive forces.

  7. Bob Bunker 3 years ago

    if the rangers can get price for profar they should do that in a heartbeat. As of right now they don’t know how profar will turn out, don’t have a place for profar in the lineup, and don’t have an ace. Rangers win world series next year if they do this deal.

  8. Ben_Cherington 3 years ago

    You say that, but I have a gut feeling the Red Sox might be in on him this offseason! Stay tuned.

  9. Guest 3 years ago

    very true.

  10. Baseball Lifer 3 years ago

    As a Ranger fan, I hope so. I am not saying that he is bad player. I just think you can get his production from a younger/cheapier player. And spend the money saved elsewhere.
    Cruz/Monster – That could be interesting.

  11. withpower 3 years ago

    Might not be the worst pick up for Boston. His salary isn’t outrageous, they could probably hide him in LF, he’s still hitting for a lot of power.

    An OF of Cruz, Ellsbury, Ross, and maybe Kalish doesn’t sound too bad.

  12. Ben_Cherington 3 years ago

    EDIT* Cruz, Ellsbury, Upton

  13. Baseball Lifer 3 years ago

    I think Boston would be a great fit for Cruz. Both his bat and glove would play well in LF. But his power numbers are down. He has hit 7 fewer HR’s with 61 more AB’s this year comparred to last year. And he will be in the 9-11 million dollar price range (estimated) next year.

  14. Baseball Lifer 3 years ago

    Texas – Justin
    Boston – BJ
    LOL – That is not what you were thinking was it???

  15. Ben_Cherington 3 years ago

    Boston-Kate Upton

  16. Baseball Lifer 3 years ago

    Now everyone is happy!!!

  17. withpower 3 years ago

    His doubles numbers are up. And 7 HRs.. I mean, I’m not sure how much I’d read into that. Yeah, it’s a drop off, but I’m not sure it’s statistically significant for projecting next year.

    His walk rate increased, too.

  18. Baseball Lifer 3 years ago

    I will give you doubles, walks, runs and hits. All of which stem from the fact that he played in more games and had more AB’s (which is a good thing/fewer trips to the DL). But that does not explain why his HR’s, total bases, avearge, slugging, rbi’s, stolen bases, and strikeouts have decreased from last year (with nearly 75 more AB’s). I dont know how else to say it other than he has not been as productive this year.

  19. withpower 3 years ago

    Well total bases ties into HR and SLG. You get 4 bases for a home run, you get 2 bases for a double. I’m not saying his HR didn’t drop off, but he hit 29 last year, he hit 22 this year. Maybe he hooked a few foul this season, maybe the wind wasn’t blowing as well, maybe he just knocked them into the gaps instead of over the wall, maybe his bat slowed down.

    Maybe he played through some injuries, maybe he just had a slump. I’m not saying he didn’t hit fewer HR, but rather I’m just not sure a difference of 7 is a harbinger of anything nor is 75 at-bats where maybe he was less productive. He hit 29 last year, he’s hit 22 this year. What if hits 25 next year? What does that mean?

    As for his average, in the last 4 years he’s hit .260, .318, .263, .259. The outlier is the .318 and the difference between the others is negligible.

  20. Baseball Lifer 3 years ago

    – Nelson Cruz is paid to hit the ball 400 feet (HR’s) and drive in runs. Not drive the ball 340 feet off of a wall and end up standing on second base. With your logic players such as Jose Reyes would be considered power hitters for lining a ball down the line or in a alley, then running like hell to 2B or even 3B. Do all of those triples Jose hit make him anymore of a power hitter than if he would of stopped at 2B? No of course not because Jose is not a power hitter, he is a slap hitting speedster. Joe Mauer is not a speedster nor a power hitter. He is a high contact/high average type. His player type does not change just because he hits a single HR or legs out a infeild single….. Nelson is simply here to be a power bat in the lineup- hence the Boom Stick Hotdog that the Rangers are selling. Trust me Boom stick does not mean Doubles.
    – You sure do have alot of maybes in your last post…. Since when did the term “maybe” become another word for Excuse??? Because that is all you gave – one excuse after another excuse. Right, wrong, or indifferent the facts are the facts…. And i will say it again – Nelson has not been as productive this year as he was last year, even thou he has had more AB’s. It doesnt matter why. I am not saying that Nelson is a bad player, cant rebound, or heck even get hot and hit 7 HR’s over the course of the rest of the season. But until he does it, that is all speculation/opinions which are meaningless, when you have sheer unbias data (stats) to go off of.

  21. withpower 3 years ago

    I have no idea why you’re bringing up Joe Mauer or Jose Reyes or trying to define my “logic”. I also have no idea why you’ve taken such an argumentative and hostile tone — no one was arguing with you.

    Go back and read what I wrote — carefully. I never argued Nelson Cruz was “more productive”. I simply said seven fewer HR over 75 ABs really doesn’t tell us anything — and it doesn’t. Vernon Wells hit 15 HR in 2009 then hit 31 in 2010. Alex Gordon hit 23 HR in 2011, he’s got 11 so far this year even though his AVG, OBP, BABIP are all pretty much identical.

    Sometimes guys hit fewer home runs, sometimes they hit more home runs.

  22. Baseball Lifer 3 years ago

    You need to go back and read the thread – Ben and I were discussing Cruz’s power (HR’s) , when you chimed in with his this “his doubles are up” comment. Doubles has no real relation to power – hence the Reyes and Mauer comment. These are major leaguer hitters we are talking about. Nearly all of them can get a double.
    As I have said this entire thread – he has not been as productive this year as last…. And his overall numbers (power included) dont deny it. You made a uneducated comment, lacked supporting data, and got called out on it. Deal with it. The facts are the facts.

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