Blue Jays Notes: Farrell, Marcum, Villanueva

Whether the Blue Jays keep manager John Farrell or send him to the Red Sox, the time has come to make a decision, argues Sportsnet.ca's Shi Davidi. The manager controversy is taking the Jays' attention away from more important offseason business, and Davidi argues that unless the Jays receive quality compensation in return for Farrell, it will make the team look bad to free agents. "An ideal sales pitch doesn’t include: 'Come to Toronto, this manager won’t flee to help our direct opposition,' ” Davidi writes. 

Here's the latest from north of the border…

  • There is still speculation that the Jays are eager to part ways with Farrell, with one team-connected source telling Jon Heyman of CBS Sports that, “The people there [in Toronto] would charter a jet to get him out.''
  • The negotiations between the Jays and the Red Sox about Farrell have advanced beyond the "preliminary" stage, tweets Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe.  Cafardo broke the news yesterday that the two teams have begun to discuss how the Jays would be compensated in a possible trade of the manager.
  • As to what that compensation might look like, Peter Abraham of the Boston Globe uses the Theo Epstein and Ozzie Guillen deals as models to conclude that "a pitcher on the cusp of being helpful to the big league team and a Double A prospect" will be suitable, with Toronto also sending "a non-prospect" back to Boston.
  • In a radio interview with Jeff Sammut of Sportsnet 590 The Fan (partially transcribed by Sportsnet.ca's Mike Johnston), Shaun Marcum said he'd be open to returning to the Jays as a free agent and cited his good relationships with the training staff, pitching coach Bruce Walton and third base coach Brian Butterfield. "They're on my list, that's for sure," Marcum said. "I enjoyed my time there, I loved the city, loved the coaching staff, so it's definitely a place that I would be interested in."  Marcum said he's willing to pitch anywhere and in either league, though he wants to pitch for a team with a chance at the playoffs.
  • Carlos Villanueva talks about his free agency, his late-season slump and the Toronto fans with MLB.com's Gregor Chisholm.
  • As reported earlier today, the Jays claimed right-hander Tyson Brummett off waivers from the Phillies.


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56 Comments on "Blue Jays Notes: Farrell, Marcum, Villanueva"


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Kid Canada
2 years 8 months ago

So Marcum is interested in Toronto, but also wants to pitch for a team with the chance at the playoffs. Pick a lane, Shaun!

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Jaysfan724
2 years 8 months ago

The Jays do have a chance…it may not be as strong as others, but the 2nd WC opens up playoff chances for a lot more teams. The Orioles and A’s “didn’t have a chance” heading into the season and look how they ended up.

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Slopeboy
2 years 8 months ago

That’s absolutely true. The AL East has just gone through the changing of the guard. The demise of Boston for the time being and the rest of the division catching up to NY shows that every team has real shot.The Jays have a talented team that went through a horrendous season due to injury. If they can escape what happened this past season, and shore up their SP, they’re legit contenders for a WC spot at the very least.

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Lunchbox45
2 years 8 months ago

I love the optimism, but the injuries were just the half of it.

Overlooked is the fact that 6 opening day starters had average to bad years, lind, escobar, johnson, rasmus, thames, arencibia.

and then there was the pitching.

The jays still have a lot of holes to fill, and a lot of question marks going in to next year. . AA is going to have to be pretty aggressive to get in to the upper echelon of AL teams.

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Sniderlover
2 years 8 months ago

If I can be sort of optimistic which is rare for me is the fact Jays were .500 despite that and only broke apart after like Jose and every hitter went down. I mean, they had awful starting pitching, Ricky was awful (can you really say you expect Ricky to be that awful again?), they had a bunch of injuries, closing situation was a mess until Jansenn came in, Morrow missed a good chunk of time, Alvarez was terrible, Yunel was terrible, Colby was awful in the 2nd half (might have had an injury), Lawrie was a disappointment (at least for me), KJ was awful. Lind as usual, was awful. They seemed to lose every 1 run game. I mean so many things went wrong for them but they were still .500 for the most part and I can’t reasonably expect all those guys to be as awful as they were.

They will make some upgrades in the rotation, maybe get a 2B and LF that are not totally awful. Or get a DH that doesn’t suck like Lind. I do think Jays could take big steps next year… however, it all starts with getting some legit starting pitching.

It seems like AA feels the same way and the way he has been talking which we seen before, is that he is going to be aggressive in FA and seems more willing to trade prospects for major leaguers. But yeah, still a lot of work to do.

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Slopeboy
2 years 8 months ago

As I said, injuries had a significant impact. The SP will have to be better, but there is talent there. Lawrie is a player, Gose, Hecheveria will get better and excude talent. The Jays finished the season with a handful of games vs NY and those players made a slew of mistakes that can be attributed to inexperience. The talent is there, it just needs a bit of seasoning and some decent SP. As a Yankees fan, I’m hoping I’m wrong, but I think the AL East is going to be wild come 2013.

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Howard
2 years 8 months ago

For the amount of time JP got tho with Mathis as back up and JP’s late season injury…I think you’re right. Johnson is done, Escobar needs to be dealt if he doesn’t get better, Rasmus still has time until Marscinik. Aggressive is an understatement, AA needs to make a lot of changes from 2nd base, to the rotation to LF and DH. And the biggest question mark for me…is actually Bautista. How does he do after the wrist injury?

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Lunchbox45
2 years 8 months ago

encarnacion is all bautista like now anyways so we’re good

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suhiscrazierthanyou
2 years 8 months ago

agreed, but 2-4 of those players (Thames, Lind and maybe JPA or even Johnson) will not be opening day starters this coming season

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suhiscrazierthanyou
2 years 8 months ago

O’s just made the playoffs. it can happen!

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Runtime
2 years 8 months ago

Come on home, Shaun.

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jacks100
2 years 8 months ago

I’d take Shaun Marcum back in a heartbeat. He’s a gent. A grinder. And, most importantly, a beauty.

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dc21892
2 years 8 months ago

I like Farrell, but this could be a huge mistake. The Sox can just be done with this and sign anyone of these guys they’ve interviewed and they should. I thought this time it was being done the right way but this looks like its going the wrong way again.

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BooJays33
2 years 8 months ago

i like farrell just fine but if you can add real talent then you do it. bard’s value is low…i would definetly take a flyer on that guy.

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meanguygary
2 years 8 months ago

I really enjoyed watching Shaun pitch with the Jays & wouldn’t mind seeing him come back if things lined up.