More Biogenesis-Related Suspensions Likely To Occur

TODAY: It may yet take a few weeks or months for the MLB players involved to be publicly disclosed, but Quinn says (Twitter links) it appears at least a few “fairly significant” but not “major” names could be linked to PEDs.

YESTERDAY: If you haven’t seen the news, a series of arrests were made today of figures involved in operating the Biogenesis clinic and facilitating its distribution of PEDs (which is alleged to include not only professional athletes, but also high school athletes in the Miami area). Among the arrested parties were Biogenesis founder Tony Bosch (who surrendered to the DEA on charges of conspiracy to distribute anabolic steroids) and the cousin of Alex Rodriguez — Yuri Sucart. USA Today’s Bob Nightengale adds that former ACES consultant Juan Carlos Nunez — who was behind Melky Cabrera‘s web site scandal –was also arrested. Thirteen MLB players were suspended last year, on today’s exact date, for using or possessing PEDs distributed by the Biogenesis clinic.

The federal investigation that brought about those arrests have “revealed previously unnamed MLB players,” ESPN.com’s T.J. Quinn reports on Twitter, which could well lead to another round of suspensions. (Quinn, whose Twitter timeline has quite a bit of additional coverage, says to “expect more suspensions.”) It can only be hoped that we will not see a repeat of last year’s seemingly endless saga. Nevertheless, the potential impact on baseball’s transactional side remains a realistic consideration.

Reports have not yet surfaced regarding the details of the newly-discovered information, such as what players might be involved and what sort of evidence arguably incriminates them. The bulk of the suspensions that came down last year were for fifty games apiece, and several notable players — including Nelson Cruz and Jhonny Peralta — ultimately missed the playoff push for contending clubs.


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259 Comments on "More Biogenesis-Related Suspensions Likely To Occur"


LiveFastCyYoung
11 months 22 days ago

Peralta didn’t miss the playoffs.

MaineBaseball
11 months 22 days ago

It says “playoff stretch”

Victoria Roberts
11 months 22 days ago

Well this is certainly the gift that keeps on giving.

Jake
11 months 21 days ago

Darn, I was just about to make this exact snarky comment. Good work Victoria!

Rally Weimaraner
11 months 22 days ago

MLB will wait until after the season to hand down the suspensions, they won’t want this to distract from the run up to the postseason like it did last year.

Victoria Roberts
11 months 22 days ago

I don’t buy that. They want to make it hurt so guys don’t do it. Getting suspended for a playoff run should hurt.

Rally Weimaraner
11 months 22 days ago

The MLB wants to hurt player but not owners/teams, that has always been their approach to PED’s. News of last year’s suspensions came down before the trade deadline and in time for every player except Arod to return prior to the start of the postseason. They wouldn’t be able to do it so cleanly this year.

Victoria Roberts
11 months 22 days ago

Clean doesn’t matter. They have never delayed anything until the next season. They enact punishment when they discover the crime. And I don’t think clean players, teams or ownership consider it a punishment to them. After all the Giants could have had Melky on the roster in 2012, but chose to play without him and still won. The team and its leadership were done with Melky, and it worked out fine for them.

Todd Smith
11 months 22 days ago

I think it’s pretty clear that the punishments were designed to help the teams last year.

Victoria Roberts
11 months 22 days ago

How so? They don’t deliberately punish the teams. They handed out the punishments as per the rules when they discovered the offense. They could have waited for the timing to be worse, but I never insinuated that that was what they did. They just don’t put it off until later.

Todd Smith
11 months 22 days ago

Peralta and Cruz were given 50 games suspensions, and they made sure to give those suspensions out with exactly 50 games remaining in the season so that they could return for the playoffs. Braun was considered a second offender, which usually carries a 100 game suspension. But he was kind of banged up last year, and the Brewers were out of it anyway, so they let him just sit out the remaining 70 games or so remaining in the season and called it close enough. A-Rod was considered a second offender, which usually carries a 100 game suspension. The Yankees desperately wanted to get out of that bad contract, so they suspended him for the entire 162 game schedule this year to help free up some cash for the Yankees. Each suspension was custom tailored to help the corresponding teams.

Victoria Roberts
11 months 22 days ago

They most likely did it that way so none of the players would appeal, because appealing would have meant a 100 game suspension. As for the ARod suspension, I think his was longer because he was trying to buy evidence and MLB wanted to punish him more severely. If they really wanted to help the Yankees they would have tried to make it a lifetime suspension.

And Braun’s first positive test was overturned, so you can consider those 20 extra games punishment for ruining the test taker’s reputation.

Tyler Young
11 months 22 days ago

So basically you are saying the MLB will let players help out their team by cheating, allow them to make it to the postseason and compete for a World Series, while on steroids, so it doesn’t cause a distraction? Don’t you think the legitimacy of the champs would be in question, if 1 or even more players were suspended after they were allowed to win a World Series on steroids.. I’m sorry but I’d rather have to deal with multiple stories every day related to suspensions, then have cheaters help their team win a World Series. It would bring up al lot of conspiracy crap.

rikersbeard
11 months 22 days ago

They’re obviously not still on the drugs from the biogenesis clinic.

janrayewilliams
11 months 21 days ago

They don’t care if the players use HGH/PEDs. They actually give them PERMISSION to use it all they want UNTIL they are caught the 3rd time which could take years. HGH can only be detected for about 24 hours after injecting in blood with the present tests used. Muscle biopsy would tell if players have been using HGH for years, which most have. They begin as teens so that the leg bones especially grow longer than average in proportion to the torso.

bucsws2014
11 months 22 days ago

It would be sporting of MLB to give the GMs that list of potential users. I’d hate to see, for instance, the Bucs trade for someone to replace Cutch only to have that guy suspended for the season.

SFGiantsfan_10
11 months 22 days ago

I agree, or so that they can plan accordingly, so if that someone on a team gets suspended, then the GM of the team has the opportunity to make a trade to patch the ship for a playoff run.

sunshipballoons
11 months 22 days ago

Since MLB is the owners, one would think that the teams do have access to the list.

Nathan Boley
11 months 21 days ago

Are you referring to Marlon Byrd by chance?

Jerry Mandering
11 months 22 days ago

I can think of a few big names that are getting very nervous right about now.

Big Giant Head
11 months 22 days ago

Barry Bonds, Benito Santiago, Jeremy Giambi…oh wait….

vtadave
11 months 22 days ago

More like Albert Pujols, Miguel Cabrera, etc.

JamieFC
11 months 22 days ago

Hey, if you’re just going to arbitrarily name the best hitters of the last five years, don’t forget to throw in Mike Trout and Paul Goldschmidt among others. Can’t forget the younger guys!

Trock
11 months 21 days ago

The young guys would NEVER use PED’s. Cmon man…

Dave
11 months 22 days ago

I wouldn’t bet on Pujols, he was bulking up in high school and I’m pretty sure some highschool kid in Kansas wasn’t exactly hanging out with the guys from Biogenesis.

Not to say he wasn’t roiding up the old fashioned way, like many players, but he didn’t have any sudden performance improvements during his career like most of the people named, and he never had to come back from a serious injury either.

Not saying he’s clean, just that he’s not in the Biogenesis pack.

sunshipballoons
11 months 22 days ago

Yeah, as Dave points out, Pujols started his HGH regimen before biogenesis even existed.

Brett Orange
11 months 22 days ago

Just because someone is a good hitter doesn’t automatically mean they are on steroids. You need at least some type of evidence before throwing out wild accusations

$114759666
11 months 21 days ago

Pretty sure both those guys would count as major names.

shysox
11 months 22 days ago

Guessing Cruz didn’t learn his lesson

11 months 22 days ago

Quinn says that previously unrevealed names have been learned, and more suspensions are expected… and your response is to accuse a player who has already been revealed and served a suspension?

shysox
11 months 22 days ago

Quinn does not say anywhere that the names are exclusive to first time offenders. Cruz is purely speculation on my part, however.

disqus_CPgX5sMODk
11 months 22 days ago

I wonder if Robinson Cano is on this new list. Remember he was on the original list but somehow got his name dropped.

SFGiantsfan_10
11 months 22 days ago

Well that’s interesting news.

Bleed_Orange
11 months 22 days ago

Source?

Todd Smith
11 months 22 days ago

Cano wasn’t on the list. The spokesperson for Cano’s charity foundation was on the list.

CHERYL
11 months 22 days ago

his was on the first list but nothing happened to him.

Baseball Realism
11 months 21 days ago

You read it on some no name’s blog so it must be true

Mark Kelevara
11 months 22 days ago

So the ones who THOUGHT they got away last season, are in the midst of finally getting caught? Sweet.

Better start prepping up those fake websites boys, just don’t call ACES for help.

Criznit
11 months 22 days ago

Well. Just thowing a name out there but… Chris Davis anyone?

Patrick R.
11 months 22 days ago

No. Everyone thinks that power surges automatically equal steroids. Chris Davis has always had tremendous power. He was able to put it all together last season

sunshipballoons
11 months 22 days ago

Yes, Davis’s HR increase came from increased contact, not increased power. But that doesn’t mean his power didn’t come from PEDs.

Criznit
11 months 22 days ago

One more but I doubt it, Vmart?

Jerry Mandering
11 months 22 days ago

Him, Byrd and Hunter having career years post 35, something’s fishy there. Just saying.

Criznit
11 months 22 days ago

Hasn’t Byrd been popped before? I’d check but too busy figuring out who to point my finger at next..

Jerry Mandering
11 months 22 days ago

Yep, in 2012.

Rabbitov
11 months 22 days ago

Davis mashed all the way through the minors, Jose Bautista would be infinitely more likely.

Jaysfan1994
11 months 22 days ago

Toronto’s such a hitter friendly ballpark, it doesn’t get it’s recognition for making guys like Edwin Encarnacion/Jose Bautista the power threats they are.

Rabbitov
11 months 22 days ago

Encarnacion okay, Bautista came literally out of nowhere.

sunshipballoons
11 months 22 days ago

It really didn’t come from nowhere. It’s not like he went from no power to a lot of power. He went from some power in pitchers parks to a lot of power in a hitters park.

Rabbitov
11 months 22 days ago

15 HR power in Pittsburg does not equal 54 HR power in Toronto with doubles staying exactly the same at age 30. I get what you are saying, I just can not agree with it.

I am not outright accusing him of PED use, but he is the player not linked to PEDs that would surprise me the least if it came out.

sunshipballoons
11 months 22 days ago

Right, he clearly improved his ability to hit HRs; it wasn’t all the switch to Toronto. Maybe it was the natural way, maybe it was PEDs. But people act like he had no history of hitting HRs, which just isn’t true. His potential was always as a power hitter.

$114759666
11 months 21 days ago

I’ve always thought JD Martinez was kind of like Bautista… guy that never seemed to get it, gets dumped by a losing/rebuilding team then suddenly puts it all together and starts tearing after being picked up by another team. I hope neither of them are on the list, kind of like those guys.

Andrew Ochs
11 months 21 days ago

Its hitter friendly because the Jays steal signs :p

Jaysfan1994
11 months 21 days ago

Every team steals signs. The Jays were just too foolish and got caught stealing signs with the infamous “Man In White”.

Baseball Realism
11 months 21 days ago

Considering how much he was under the public eye for the past 3 years, I highly doubt he is taking PEDs.

Changing his swing and getting regular playing time is what did it.

He even thought it was a fluke as evident from his club friendly contract he signed a few years ago. His numbers and skill should be putting him closer to 20 million instead of 10 million

Jaysfan1994
11 months 21 days ago

Oh, I’m aware they both changed their swings and actually had good power numbers before. Jose had a 20+ homer season in the minors so it’s not like he wasn’t ever projected to hit hit 20+ in his career.

It’s just people assuming that these guys have to be on something because they don’t like the player/team.

James Pinsky
11 months 22 days ago

Who cares. Until they start yanking championships it doesn’t matter. if Ortiz is on this list, the Red Sox WS is void.

d-blaqueqq
11 months 22 days ago

They should take some of the O’s recent ones if Chris Davis is on there. wait…

Ben_Cherington
11 months 22 days ago

Kind of a silly statement IMO.
Should the yanks vacate their WS bc of AROD, 2012 Tigers Pennant bc of Peralta, 2009 Phillies due to Ruiz??
Where does it stop? You could potentially find a band substance on any team dating back to the late 70s.

It seems to be a black eye for baseball and many players/teams had knowledge of it. It is unfortunate that ppl cheated. I say let it be and move on.

However, I would like to see pitchers get back on the juice, im so tired of all the tommy johns!

James Pinsky
11 months 22 days ago

I agree with your logic. I think vacated championships should happen, regardless of what team if wrong doing is found on the Red Sox, Yankees, Orioles or anyone else. How do we do that? It’s a mess, but on principle – I think we should.

Ben_Cherington
11 months 22 days ago

Then you get into should we vacate records??
Just seems like if baseball were to that, there would be an extended period of this dark cloud looming over longer than needed.

James Pinsky
11 months 22 days ago

Not having the stomach to pay the price for a mistake is never an excuse to condone it. That’s just my opinion.

Ben_Cherington
11 months 22 days ago

I understand, byt my point of view that this has been going on so long, leaving a negative impact on the sport in the eyes of fair waether fans, why bring up the past? We have learned from the mistakes and are taking positive steps to remedy the problem.

James Pinsky
11 months 22 days ago

Well, if folks are found guilty, then they must be held accountable not just for the ethics of not cheating but for the justice of the punishment for those already caught. I know I sound very elitist in what i am saying, but baseball is such a beautiful game. Even if it hurts, a lot, we need to clean it up.

Karkat
11 months 22 days ago

Holding individuals accountable is fine (even if there still is the question: what were the people they were facing using??) But once you get to the team level, there’s problems.

I will say, if (and I don’t exactly think this is likely) David Ortiz were to be found to have been using an actual, specific substance and suspended I doubt I’d want him on my team anymore.

Rabbitov
11 months 22 days ago

Agree 100% with the distinction. No way am I going to accept the record of a proven cheater for individual performance, such as Bonds, but you can’t strip the victories of an entire team for cheating. If that was the case how many World Series winners would actually stand?

There has been a whole lot of cheating going on in baseball besides PEDs for the last century +

Karkat
11 months 22 days ago

It’s not even not having the stomach, but being incapable of knowing if you’re making the right choices. Like I said, because you know one guy on a winning team used something, how do you quantify the difference, and how can you be sure more people on the other team weren’t using more things? If we could ever know everything for sure, I might share your point of view, but it’s unfortunately just not possible.

Ben_Cherington
11 months 22 days ago

I wish I could like this 1000x

James Pinsky
11 months 22 days ago

Its a tough process. You have valid points. in the end , we as fans can have our own standards. As an Orioles fan I’d feel empty knowing a championship was tainted and I am sure teammates who are clean on said team would feel as bad if not worse.

I understand your logic. Still, for me, I am disappointed. Winning only feels right when its done honorably. To this I am sure we all agree.

You have your logic, and I respect it. I honestly do. However, I have mine and as crappy as it is to draw my line in the sand, I do it.

I don’t want a championship where anyone can add the words, “yeah but” to it.

I’ll wait, even for my beloved Orioles, a bit longer, for a win with dignity.

Fangaffes
11 months 22 days ago

How would juicing prevent Tommy Johns? I believe it would cause (is causing) more, not less.

sunshipballoons
11 months 22 days ago

Then, once you vacate the championships, you also have to vacate all of the team’s losses, since their opponents also used steroids, thus making them undefeated and returning their championship to them. or something.

Karkat
11 months 22 days ago

And what if Matt Holliday were also on there? Allen Craig? Carlos Beltran?

Or what about the Tigers? Peralta was on their ALCS team. What is Scherzer was using?

What if David Freese was using in 2011? We’ll probably never know. Arod was on the NYY team that won in 2009. Was Howard using in 2008, maybe? Nelson Cruz was on the Rangers’ playoff runs in 2010/2011, so do they lose their pennant?

Cheating is despicable, but it feels like pretty much every team has had some dubious connection to someone who is using or has used at some point. It feels like every big game in the 90’s and early 2000’s involved people who were using on both sides. So if you take a championship away from one team (a pointless notion after the fact, IMO), do you give it to the other team? Who’s to say they would’ve won? Who’s to say they were all clean?

James Pinsky
11 months 22 days ago

I posted a bit lower that I understand your logic and to a point, agree with it. Regardless, we as fans know what is right and just. Roger Maris is still the HR champ, for example.

I’m not trying to say one team is more unethical than another. The Red Sox won the last WS, so i referenced them.

Let’s all agree this is a damned shame.

Metsfan93
11 months 22 days ago

I’m fine with disliking cheaters, but really, Roger Maris is still the HR champ, to you. Roger Maris isn’t actually still the HR champ no matter how you want to slice it.

Patrick the Pragmatist
11 months 21 days ago

Roger Maris does still hold the American League single season record.

gwell55
11 months 22 days ago

You have a problem with your Roger Maris HR champ statement. What makes you think he and AAron and others were clean? We do know from Johnny Damon’s statements that Greenies were widely used and available to everyone in both clubhouses in all the stadiums he was in. Thus cleaning up needs to start clear back with Babe Ruth and Prohibition not just in the 60’s and forward with the Psychedelic drugs or the 90’s with the anabolic steroids or the 2000’s with those and next with Human Growth (HGH) drugs. Who knows who took what and who drank what and who should be outlawed for there acts. it goes on and on, however it is just as rampant in the other sports but they get a mostly cleaner pass for coming forward with a plan.

$114759666
11 months 21 days ago

If we do that, we might need to ADD 100 homeruns for Babe Ruth since he was half drunk many games.

11 months 21 days ago

the Pirates must have been out of the loop for 21 years if every team has a connection.

Karkat
11 months 21 days ago

The Giants missed the playoffs in 11 of the 15 seasons they had Barry Bonds, easily the most prolific steroid guy.

Mark McGwire’s teams didn’t make the playoffs at all during his biggest power years (1996-1999).

Sammy Sosa only saw two playoffs in his 13 seasons with the Cubs.

Having a steroid connection does not instantly make a team amazing.

Rabbitov
11 months 22 days ago

So is his hot dog eating championship

wordsense
11 months 22 days ago

Carlos Gomez.

Federal League
11 months 22 days ago

Let’s wait until there actually are announced suspensions before we start naming every player who had a power spike in their mid-20s.

SiladelphiaSillies
11 months 22 days ago

Praying that no Phils that matter (Franco, Crawford, Nola, BP, Trade Canidates) are on this list. Thinking Papi, maybe Carlos Gomez, and some role players.

YankeeFan™
11 months 22 days ago

Cano ? Ortiz ? Davis?

Rally Weimaraner
11 months 22 days ago

Davis was too late, his power surge came last year after Bosch operation was obviously under investigation. I suspect any wrong doing would have occurred prior to last year’s suspensions.

Federal League
11 months 22 days ago

Davis didn’t really have a power surge. He always had huge power. He basically had a huge first half in 2013 and then came back down to earth.

MB923
11 months 22 days ago

If it was 1 of those 3 names, I’d say Cano due to him possibly being in the original report.

Metsfan93
11 months 22 days ago

I hope it’s none of them. I never want to see a player’s reputation tarnished, although in Ortiz’ case it would prevent him from achieving HoF status.

gwell55
11 months 22 days ago

Jeter, Pettitte, Tex, Chamberlain, Sabathia, all these names who had a good career could be named what is your point?

Rabbitov
11 months 22 days ago

I’m the furthest thing from a Yankees fan, but if Jeter was on there I’d quit baseball

MB923
11 months 22 days ago

Oh boy.

jed_hoyer
11 months 22 days ago

finally catching up to arods life time ban

Frittoman626
11 months 22 days ago

A-Rod? It baffles me how he gets all the blame. MLB is just as guilty as he is.

jed_hoyer
11 months 22 days ago

in the fact that the team doctors write the scrips yes but nobody is forcing you to cheat

Bleed_Orange
11 months 22 days ago

Lets say one of the High School athletes from Miami is now in the MLB would they be subject to suspension for taking PEDs prior to their entrance into MLB?

CG
11 months 22 days ago

Just say Manny Machado, you might as well have tried to not say Santa Claus by saying, “The guy in the big red suit, who flies around using reindeer giving kids presents”.

dshires4
11 months 22 days ago

I wish I could like your comment more than once. Brilliant.

JST1331
11 months 22 days ago

The anticipation begins for who gets busted.

Grizzy
11 months 22 days ago

I smell a 700 year suspension for A-Rod.

Big Giant Head
11 months 22 days ago

Will his Yankees contract be over by then?

Grizzy
11 months 22 days ago

Not if Ruben Amaro XV has anything to say about it.

Brian
11 months 22 days ago

Dan Uggla.

sportsnut969
11 months 22 days ago

IMO as you look around the majors at all the player over the last 18 months that has had a major problem keeping their Batting Averages above 200 that were + ball players a few years ago that may be a place to start.

Watching baseball in Cleveland a few guys that come to mind that have had several muscle related injury over that course of time Swisher / Bourn / Asdrubal Cabrera / Carlos Santana guys that year in and year out before the crack down were at the top of their games 20 + homers always at or slightly over a 300 BA.

The above makes one think on look at your own home town players

Here is a few more on other teams that meet the same Jose Reddick / Josh Hamilton

Federal League
11 months 22 days ago

The ubiquitous use of infield shifts this season and the refusal to change their approach and go the other way has a lot to do with all the down batting averages.

gwell55
11 months 22 days ago

Actually Batting average isn’t where to look … OPS is a more likely place.
Year to year averages are for young fans to look at and drool.