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Marlins Reportedly Have “Handshake Agreement” To Sell Team

By Steve Adams | February 11, 2017 at 8:34am CDT

SATURDAY 8:49am: Charles Kushner’s son Joshua — Jared Kushner’s younger brother — is the person with the preliminary agreement to buy the Marlins, Steven Wine of the AP writes. Charles and Jared Kushner are not believed to be involved with the deal. The team could sell for far less than $1.6 billion after Joshua Kushner does due diligence, according to Wine.

THURSDAY 5:24pm: Kushner is “not involved” in the reported handshake deal, per Jon Heyman of Fan Rag, and likely wouldn’t pass muster from the league’s perspective.

4:34pm: The league has issued a short statement on the matter (h/t Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports, on Facebook): “Under Major League Baseball rules, the Commissioner’s Office must be informed of any conversations about a potential sale. The Commissioner’s Office has not heard directly or indirectly of any conversation involving Charles Kushner.”

3:55pm: New York real estate executive Charles Kushner is involved with at least one group making a bid for the Marlins, according to the AP and ESPN.com’s Darren Rovell, though it’s not clear how prominent a role he has or whether his party is the one referenced in this morning’s report. Assuming he is a part of the leading bid group, Kushner could complicate matters for the league. Beyond the cash shortfall noted by Ozanian, Kushner has a troubling criminal history, as this Bloomberg story details. And then there’s the fact that his son, Jared, is married into the family of and serves as a senior adviser to president Donald Trump.

10:27am: The Marlins have a “handshake agreement” in place to sell the team to a New York-based real estate developer for the price of $1.6 billion, reports Mike Ozanian of Forbes. Ozanian cites two anonymous sources that claim to have been told by Marlins president David Samson that the deal is in place. The $1.6 billion price tag would be more than 10 times the $158MM price at which owner Jeffrey Loria purchased the team back in 2002.

The hangup in the reported agreement for the time being is that the potential buyer does not have enough liquid assets to make the purchase, as the majority of his net worth is tied up in real estate investments. Allowing this buyer to purchase the team would require more debt than Major League Baseball would be comfortable with, per Ozanian.

As Ozanian points out, the Dodgers’ current ownership group took on an enormous amount of debt when buying the team for $2 billion, but Guggenheim Baseball Management also had hundred of millions of dollars in hedge fund money and a $6 billion television agreement that dwarfs the Marlins’ current contract with Fox Sports Florida.

Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald writes that he reached out to Samson in light of the Forbes report but was met with a reply of, “no comment at all.” There have been reports since December that Loria could consider a sale of the team, with Ozanian reporting at the time that Loria sought a $1.7 billion price tag. In Ozanian’s latest report, he notes that Solamere Capital considered purchasing the club and had been discussing a $1.4 billion price with Loria.

A sale of the Marlins would bring to a close one of the most controversial ownership tenures in recent history. Loria has been widely panned by both fans and the media for an unwillingness to spend on the on-field product, orchestrating multiple fire sales even after winning the World Series in 2003 and opening a new, taxpayer-funded stadium in 2012. As Vocativ’s Joe Lemire points out (on Twitter), if the sale of the team does ultimately go through, Loria will have paid just $15.5MM of the $325MM that is owed to star right fielder Giancarlo Stanton on his exceptionally backloaded 13-year contract.

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  1. Brixton

    8 years ago

    Maybe the Marlins actually have a fighting chance at being a competent organization now. Completely get rid of everyone in the front office and start over

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    • ThePriceWasRight

      8 years ago

      best news if you are a marlins or baseball fan. Lori’s tight nit purse strings have hurt this team and his constant getting involved in day to day matters has been brutal.

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      • southi

        8 years ago

        I’d have to imagine that the people of South Florida would be very happy if the sale goes through and the team stays in Miami (which I’d expect it to do for quite some time). Personally I’ve never been a fan of Loria’s and have always thought that whatever he touched in baseball was tainted (in my opinion he helped kill the Expos in Montreal as well).

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        • pjmcnu

          8 years ago

          He absolutely did.

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      • mrkinsm

        8 years ago

        You think those purse strings are going to be opened with a new owner spending 1.7B$? Ha, no…they’ll be like the Astros and probably spend 40M$ a season.

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      • brown trout fisherman

        8 years ago

        Tight? Stanton 325 million!

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        • pjmcnu

          8 years ago

          Which he had no intention of paying. Either he would sell, or decimate the team again before the opt-out in order to force Stanton to leave.

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      • largeunit

        8 years ago

        Yea, Loria’s purse strings have really come together as a unit and have built a very strong relationship between them over the years.

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    • pjl7

      8 years ago

      Just dumping the owner is fine. This front office put together a great young core.

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    • tim815

      8 years ago

      Are the people in place that bad?

      Or are they just understaffed?

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  2. RedSoxFan2017

    8 years ago

    Are they going to move the team?

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    • Brixton

      8 years ago

      MLB would veto that so quickly. They just used tax dollars to build a new stadium

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      • RedSoxFan2017

        8 years ago

        Good point, would love to see a team move though.

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        • SamFuldsFive

          8 years ago

          Why?

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        • ratchetpoobis

          8 years ago

          just put the white sox or A’s in montreal and call em the expos

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        • 4wards

          8 years ago

          Tampa Bay should go first.

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        • brown trout fisherman

          8 years ago

          Empty stadium

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        • JaysFan19

          8 years ago

          What?

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      • patburn

        8 years ago

        I don’t think baseball would. Baseball doesn’t care about the tax payers. They care about money and Miami is making them nothing.

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        • jakem59

          8 years ago

          And trying to move a team with a brand new lease in a brand new tax payer stadium would cost a fortune in legal fees and be a PR nightmare for the league. Miami is going nowhere.

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        • YourDaddy

          8 years ago

          MLB cares about money and Miami is the 15th largest TV market and there are no larger TV markets in the US that don’t have a team. TV revenue drives baseball revenue. The Marlins will get a huge new TV contract in 2020 and won’t move anytime soon.

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      • jlv3gem

        8 years ago

        Not sure MLB cares about where people’s tax dollars go; unless it’s for their benefit

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      • CursedRangers

        8 years ago

        When an owner makes 10x his money in 15 years, cities need to start building in clauses that they get reimbursed for building a stadium if a team is sold for a certain profit level. Taxpayers are funding stadiums only to have the owners walk away with truckloads of money. It’s getting past the absurd point.

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        • cxcx

          8 years ago

          Maybe cities should just start buying teams.

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    • a1544

      8 years ago

      That’s ridiculous. They just built a stadium

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  3. ib6ub9

    8 years ago

    Best thing that could happen for the team!

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  4. baseball10

    8 years ago

    Loria what a clown. A very rich clown but at least he will be gone

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    • BlueSkyLA

      8 years ago

      He’s a much richer clown now.

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      • vtadave

        8 years ago

        He can hang out with McCourt and Sterling now. Three peas in a pod.

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  5. Kirby34

    8 years ago

    Thank the Lord!!

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  6. arcadia Ldogg

    8 years ago

    Great news. Get the deal done and move the team to Las Vegas.

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    • FloridaMan1988

      8 years ago

      Yeah not gonna happen #KeepDreaming

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    • RedSoxFan2017

      8 years ago

      Why Vegas? Montreal would probably be a better location

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      • kongrallyjunkie

        8 years ago

        That would be pretty funny considering Loria was sold the Marlins in exchange for running the Expos into the ground.

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        • pjmcnu

          8 years ago

          True. An oft-forgotten piece of skullduggery.

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      • thinkb4commenting

        8 years ago

        Do u know the $ exchange rn?

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    • RunDMC

      8 years ago

      Vegas supposedly getting Raiders (not sure if that’s a done deal yet). Really risky to move 2 pro teams there and think they both can survive amidst the tourists and transients when they don’t even have 1 yet.

      Montreal has the size, the history, location is more preferable for those that think the media is biased to the east coast and is in fact king of the sports world.

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      • kidaplus

        8 years ago

        They have an NHL team next year.

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  7. embehr

    8 years ago

    “a New York-based real estate developer ”

    Did the Marlins just sell the team to Donald Trump?

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    • jdgoat

      8 years ago

      Oh god no!

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    • brandons-3

      8 years ago

      Make the Marlins Great Again!

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      • YourDaddy

        8 years ago

        America is great and has been for a long time. The Marlins not so much.

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    • marcfrombrooklyn

      8 years ago

      Not that far-fetched, other than his new job. The earlier possible buyer, Solamere Capital, happens to be Mitt Romney’s investment fund. No shortage of multi-billionaire real estate developers here, though. Perhaps it’s one of the guys from Trump’s infrastructure council?

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    • disadvantage

      8 years ago

      We’re gonna build a baseball team, and we’re gonna make the fans pay for it.

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      • dbacksrs

        8 years ago

        Lol

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      • jaysfan1994

        8 years ago

        That already happened with the stadium lol.

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      • SixFlagsMagicPadres

        8 years ago

        So it would be like a Green Bay Packers- type situation?

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      • brandons-3

        8 years ago

        Loria already did that

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      • largeunit

        8 years ago

        It’s going to be a great, great team. The biggest, most beautiful team. Nobody builds teams better than me, mark my words.

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    • brewpackbuckbadg

      8 years ago

      Exactly what I thought.

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    • ratchetpoobis

      8 years ago

      *mattingly gets fired and john rocker replaces him*

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    • Boof

      8 years ago

      The budget is gonna be yuge

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    • mrnatewalter

      8 years ago

      Darren Rovell tweets that Charles Kushner, Ivanka Trump’s father-in-law is involved in the sale.

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      • Ted

        8 years ago

        Kushner? Wow. Setting my own politics aside for a second, I can’t imagine anyone with ties to the Trump administration would see buying a team in Miami as a good idea right now. It’s the big city with the highest percentage of immigrants in the country, and right or wrong, that’s going to draw controversy to the team immediately.

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        • william032

          8 years ago

          Trump won 5 of the eight surrounding counties around miami-dade. And trump has tremendous support with the cuban community.

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  8. Travis’ Wood

    8 years ago

    Outside of those 2 World Series wins, this could be the best day in Marlins franchise history of this report is true. Loria has been holding this team down for years.

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    • pjmcnu

      8 years ago

      I think it’s the best day in Marlins history INCLUDING the 2 WS titles…

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    • JaysFan19

      8 years ago

      Goof of an owner… gave Stanton the worst contract in history

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  9. Travis’ Wood

    8 years ago

    Did MLBTR get rid of the up and down votes? Or is it just not appearing for me for some reason?

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    • Steve Adams

      8 years ago

      They’re appearing for me. How are you viewing the site at the moment?

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      • Travis’ Wood

        8 years ago

        I’m currently on the mobile site. This is the first time I haven’t seen the votes. Not sure if others are experiencing this or if it’s something on my end.

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      • Connorsoxfan

        8 years ago

        Steve, is there any chance of getting the up/down votes on the mobile app anytime soon?

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      • thetruth 2

        8 years ago

        Why did you add Kushner having a connection to Trump as a problem? Is there a new law where only Liberals are allowed to own teams?

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        • retire21

          8 years ago

          No, just those associated with whining ass-clown babies.
          Don’t worry Nancy, we’re gonna make America white/poor/endangered/weak again anyhow!

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        • frankiegxiii

          8 years ago

          Obama’s coming back!?

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        • MLBTRS

          8 years ago

          So, “retire”, when will you be 12?

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    • reflect

      8 years ago

      They work for me also, but they don’t exist on the mobile app, if you’re using that.

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      • Travis’ Wood

        8 years ago

        I’m using the mobile site, not the app. This is the first time I haven’t seen them.

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        • casualatlfan

          8 years ago

          Yep, they’re not showing up on the mobile site. It’s just fine with the regular site, though.

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  10. jordanjee

    8 years ago

    It’s the same team who owned Planet Hollywood. It will be the Planet Hollywood Marlins starting in 2018.

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  11. RunDMC

    8 years ago

    Thank you, Jesus! Marlins just became relevant again.

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  12. Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

    8 years ago

    Happy for you Marlin Fans. All it took was him destroying the whole farm and not wanting to touch Stanton’s back end of that contract.. He really should never own another MLB team ever again.

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    • RunDMC

      8 years ago

      And they don’t want anything to do with Mark Cuban owning a team, yet Loria keeps his shenanigans going.

      I hope the new owners ceremoniously blow-up that awful “art” piece in CF on Stanton’s first HR. Go ahead and draw up the press release and label is a “mechanical malfunction”. Please, for the love of “art”.

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  13. mike156

    8 years ago

    What an incredible deal. Loria owns a struggling franchise in Montreal that MLB wants to be out of. He swaps it in a complex deal that places John Henry as owner of Red Sox, and Loria in Miami–with a part of the $158M advanced to Loria in an interest free loan from MLB. Then he convinces the taxpayer to pay for most of his new stadium. MLB keeps shoveling money at him, most of which he doesn’t spend. Then he sells for 10X the purchase price.

    If I am Loria, I’m laughing at how I got to use everyone else’s money while running a bargain-basement operation. My first call is the Hall of Famer Bud Selig, who, in his interest to leave Montreal, satisfy politicians with a team in Washington, and help his buddies Loria and John Henry…made all this possible.

    Amazing.

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  14. Num1PatsFan4Lyfe

    8 years ago

    It was me. I bought them. Financed 100%. $0 down, 0% interest. 1,000 year term. So happy for myself. First order of action – move to a baseball town, get a real team name, get some manlier colors.

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  15. BlueSkyLA

    8 years ago

    Remember when $2.1B was way too much to pay for the Dodgers?

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    • Priggs89

      8 years ago

      yes

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      • BlueSkyLA

        8 years ago

        Well, you can forget about that now.

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  16. mrnatewalter

    8 years ago

    Would the $1.6B sale include the asset of the stadium? If so, shouldn’t part of that money from the sale (assuming it goes through) go back to the city?

    Surely we can’t let owners con cities into building them stadiums AND collecting on it as an asset in a sale.

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    • xalz

      8 years ago

      Stadium deals that are mostly taxpayer financed have lease agreements and payments. And the parking proceeds, usually, go entirely to the taxpayers if they own the parking. I seriously doubt they financed the stadium and transferred any portion of ownership to the Marlins.

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  17. theruns

    8 years ago

    Pretty tough to succeed in a market where nobody goes to the games, watches the games, or cares about the team. It’s the epitome of a dead market. The only way they can succeed is with a Tampa budget.

    The level of interest in baseball for the south Florida area is about as low as it gets. Nobody cares.

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    • jd396

      8 years ago

      The level of interest in local MLB baseball teams in Florida is astoundingly low. Which is weird because Florida is very much a baseball state otherwise.

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      • theruns

        8 years ago

        Their TV ratings are lol worthy.

        They lose to syndicated fishing shows.

        Most of the fans at the game are transient fans of the opposing team.

        The stadium is in a terrible area which is really, really difficult to get to. They only put it there because it’s a notoriously politically corrupt neighborhood where the good lord only knows who got paid off what. Loria is pretty much a thief, the entire thing is a disgrace to MLB.

        Also their long term contract outlook is horrible, whoever picks up the tab on this mess is going to have to sell off right away.

        It’s just difficult to come up with a viable business model in a city where nobody wants or cares about your product.

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        • kc38

          8 years ago

          Whoever is buying is most likely aiming at big picture for the land near and around the park to make even more money by the property in the area. Gonna make the whole thing better.

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        • kc38

          8 years ago

          They are trying to get you to just look at the team but it’s Miami they can make even more money on being the reality company they are

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        • lesterdnightfly

          8 years ago

          “It’s just difficult to come up with a viable business model in a city where nobody wants or cares about your product.”
          That is, unless you do a Fleece ‘n’ Grease: Fleece the taxpayers to pay for an atrocious plastic stadium, and Grease the palms of the local and state politicians to allow you to do so.
          You listening, Arizona D’backs?

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        • teufelshunde4

          8 years ago

          The schmuck with tab is Miami tax payers. i forget the terms of deal.. think ballpark around a billion for that stadium when its paid off.

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        • pdoubleu 2

          8 years ago

          The cost to the tax payers for Marlins Park will be approximately $2.4 Billion, after accounting for compounding interest over the 40 year life of the bond. The total cost to build the stadium was $634 MM. The Marlins payed less than 20% of that. The city of Miami also pays the county $2 MM a year to cover the taxes on the parking facilities and pays the Marlins $250K per year in maintenance fees. The Marlins collect all revenue from ticket sales, concessions, advertising, and any future naming rights.

          I’m neither a Marlins fan nor a resident of Flordia, but I hope there’s a special place in hell reserved for Loria and Samson.

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      • reflect

        8 years ago

        Thats cause most of the people in the Miami area are way too high to care. It would be like a baseball team in Las Vegas. (like…. within the actual city, not just near it).

        I think north and Central Florida could definitely support a baseball team. Tampa would be more successful if their stadium wasn’t located so terribly. They have a ton of fans (I live in Florida), but their stadium is out on the outskirts near the coast. The drive is horrendous and not convenient or located near anything else useful.

        Central Florida supports other sports teams (Orlando Magic, and whatever the soccer team is called) quite well so I strongly believe a baseball team with a more sensible location would thrive here.

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    • kbarr888

      8 years ago

      “Nobody Goes To The Games” because they built the stadium in one of the most “crime-frequent” neighborhoods in Florida!!! They should have built it up in Delray Beach (the alternate site), and the stadium would be full (or close) for every game.

      It’s the Miami crowd that doesn’t like Baseball……….Other places Love It!!!

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      • theruns

        8 years ago

        Yes, the Delray area would have been good… you draw from the West Palm market, and the Ft. Lauderdale market as well. More of a family oriented area.

        The parking at the current stadium is a joke. If you don’t get a parking pass you basically have to pay a family in Little Havana $10 to park on their lawn and pray it’s there after the game.

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      • tutopelotas1

        8 years ago

        You’re just an ignorant who’s just prejudiced against the good Little Havana people. Shame on you !!

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  18. dannyd2210

    8 years ago

    It’s probably Marlins Man?

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    • slider32

      8 years ago

      Maybe Jeter is in on it!

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      • GareBear

        8 years ago

        Partnering with A-Rod, right?

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  19. ScruffyTheJanitor

    8 years ago

    Buyer Odds:

    Stephen Ross: 7-1
    Farley-Speyer family: 7-1
    Sheldon Solow: 5-1
    Rich LeFreak: 2-1
    Donald Trump: Off The Board

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    • RiverCatsFilms

      8 years ago

      Funny

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    • marcfrombrooklyn

      8 years ago

      A friend just reminded me that Steve Ross owns the Dolphins.. Otherwise, he’d probably be the favorite. LeFrak’s assets are mostly here in housing. I’d think the favorites would be developers with South Florida properties like Ross or Michael Stern.

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      • mrnatewalter

        8 years ago

        Ross could still own the Marlins, because both the Marlins and the Dolphins are in the same city.

        He couldn’t own the Braves and the Dolphins.

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      • reflect

        8 years ago

        The fact that he owns the Marlins seems like a pro, not a con. MLB likes veteran owners with a public history of not being psychotic.

        MLB would be far more comfortable approving a sale to someone who’s already owned a sports team for a while.

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      • JaysFan19

        8 years ago

        Buy Marlins bring them back to sunlife

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  20. flapadresfan4

    8 years ago

    I’ve heard there might be some vacation property in Quebec Loria might be interested in…….

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  21. lesterdnightfly

    8 years ago

    I want to buy them too, but my liquid assets aren’t quite up there yet either. That .03 percent 2017 COLA for Social Security benefits left me a little shy of $1.6 billion. But do I still have a chance?

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  22. RiverCatsFilms

    8 years ago

    They moving soon

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    • KB R.

      8 years ago

      I doubt it. They just built a new stadium and are under lease to stay there for several decades I believe. I’m sure they can break their lease but it would likely come with a steep financial penalty. Also, with it being built primarily by taxpayer funds I doubt the city will just let them leave and MLB would also likely not allow it. The Florida team that will likely move is the Rays.

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  23. vtadave

    8 years ago

    Add him to the dirtbag owners who sold and are filthy rich:

    Frank McCourt
    Donald Sterling
    Jeffrey Loria

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    • halos101

      8 years ago

      every time i read donald sterlings name i cringe. i’m a clipper fan btw

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  24. JFactor

    8 years ago

    Omg this is way needed

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  25. jleve618

    8 years ago

    I love that picture. I bet he’s selling the team in that phonecall.

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  26. lesterdnightfly

    8 years ago

    Sounds like the kind of “handshake agreement” that calls for a thorough antibacterial hand wash.

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  27. larry48

    8 years ago

    new general manager manager and coaches for 2017 or 2018?

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  28. slider32

    8 years ago

    To bad it wasn’t the Rays, they need to be re-located. At ;least Loria won a few world series!

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    • siliconmessiah

      8 years ago

      No he didn’t, the Marlins won those World Series titles before he bought the team.

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      • siliconmessiah

        8 years ago

        My mistake, he bought them and inherited a WS winning team.

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  29. 66TheNumberOfTheBest

    8 years ago

    Lots of Pirates fans are jealous.

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  30. RiseAgainst3598

    8 years ago

    New York based real estate? Donald J Trump? #MaketheMarlinsGreatAgain

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    • 24TheKid

      8 years ago

      Relocation to Mexico City would happen next(which I think will happen some day). #Buildthatstadium

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      • Kayrall

        8 years ago

        I sure as heck hope not.

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      • mrnatewalter

        8 years ago

        Mexico City is 2,000 feet higher in elevation than Denver. That would be a terrible idea.

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        • Priggs89

          8 years ago

          Or an awesome one

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        • 24TheKid

          8 years ago

          Well then they should have the homerun derby there.

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  31. thebluemeanie

    8 years ago

    Great news for baseball! Worst owner in sports!

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  32. jordanjee

    8 years ago

    I wonder how many of the comments in support of this rumor are from past/present Marlins players under an alias username.

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    • jdgoat

      8 years ago

      It’s gotta be at least 75 percent

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    • barkmuerhle

      8 years ago

      I don’t think that’s happening, but boy-howdy did that Mr. Loria really make a muck of things down there in Miami!

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  33. adrianmane

    8 years ago

    Loria should be barred from buying any franchise ever again.

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    • pjmcnu

      8 years ago

      YES!!

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  34. tutopelotas1

    8 years ago

    We could only hope our prayers for Mr. loria to finally sell OUR MARLINS to be finally heard..

    Many of us also desire the park to be renamed JOSE FERNANDEZ, even though we also understand the name of its sponsor is to be included there too.

    Another request is lowering the ticket prices for weekday games, so more people will the able to attend.

    GO MARLINS !!

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    • SamFuldsFive

      8 years ago

      Naming a park after guy who was doing cocaine and was twice the legal limit while with a bunch of other guys driving reckless and caused them to die? Yeah, that’s not happening.

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      • strostro

        8 years ago

        José Fernández was a great player and an important part of the team. He showed spirit in the game, and he will forever be missed.

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      • BrodiesHairisGreezy!

        8 years ago

        That guy was one of the Great Pitchers. Honor his memory and dont judge.

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      • halos101

        8 years ago

        that’s a disgusting comment. Don’t judge his choices, they’re his choices. Any death is tragic, no matter what circumstance and what you just said is embarrassing honestly.

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        • 24TheKid

          8 years ago

          Now what if one of your closest family members was out boating the same night as Jose, and let’s say your family member was following every rule perfectly. And then, the boat Jose crashes into your family members and your family member is dead. Now how do you feel about the choices of Jose Fernandez?

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        • bosox90

          8 years ago

          If Jose had lived he would’ve likely been charged with manslaughter. Unfortunately that is just what happened, nothing about what SamFuldsFive said was disgusting. He was taking a step back and looking at it with all emotion aside. A completely unfortunate tragedy, and Jose will very much be missed by many.

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        • MLBTRS

          8 years ago

          More closely to “Embarrassingly Honest”.

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        • MLBTRS

          8 years ago

          How dare you to be so logical!

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      • largeunit

        8 years ago

        SamFuldsFive, I commend you for actually voicing what most people who are thinking the same exact thing are afraid to say for fear of being scolded by fan boys who refuse to take a hard look at the situation and just can’t bring themselves to think about it in a critical manner. I’m sure that their tunes would change quite a bit if one of their friends or family members was affected by his reckless actions. I mean, this dude seriously suggesting that the Marlins name their stadium after him is an absolute joke and a prime example of the aforementioned fan boy behavior.

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        • siliconmessiah

          8 years ago

          Why can’t you honor his accomplishments as a player and still judge? We’re all judging Kang’s decision making for driving under the influence. I guess the difference is that Kang didn’t die? So if you make bad choices that endanger other people’s lives you get let off the hook as long as you die.

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        • 24TheKid

          8 years ago

          That basically sums it, @largeunit @siliconmessiah. I completely agree with both.

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        • siliconmessiah

          8 years ago

          It’s absolutely ridiculous. I’m a fan of Randy Rhoads, that doesn’t mean I think his death was any less stupid. He made a terrible decision and it but him in the ass.

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  35. East Coast Bias

    8 years ago

    Say hello to the Miami Mar-a-Lago Trumps!

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  36. SixFlagsMagicPadres

    8 years ago

    Horatio Caine: ” What do we got?”

    Policeman: “Old guy, white, looks like a white-collar businessman. A couple of bums found his body on the edge of parking lot. We think he might have gone into cardiac arrest”

    Caine: “What was he doing outside of Marlins Park, in this kind of neighborhood?”

    Policeman: “Beats me. Rumor has it that this guy owned the team or something.”

    Caine: “Well, I guess you can say…

    *Puts on sunglasses*

    “…he was a fish out of water.”

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    • SamFuldsFive

      8 years ago

      …

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      • bronxbombers

        8 years ago

        …

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  37. everlastingdave

    8 years ago

    Good. Can’t happen soon enough.

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  38. vtadave

    8 years ago

    Ivanka Trump’s father-in-law is involved. The plot thickens.

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    • gmflores27

      8 years ago

      Please keep politics out of this

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  39. BrodiesHairisGreezy!

    8 years ago

    Sell them and move them to Montreal, one of the great cities of the world (And a HUGE baseball town).

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    • jleve618

      8 years ago

      67th isn’t one of the great cities of the world in my opinion. That said, they do deserve a baseball team, hopefully Tampa moves there, and the A’s get a new stadium. We can dream.

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  40. pjmcnu

    8 years ago

    I wouldn’t rely on a handshake deal to buy a $5 cheeseburger from that guy. Miami found out what happens when you trust him, and it isn’t “things work out GREAT for you!”

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    • basquiat

      8 years ago

      And you think Kushner is a solid, trustworthy guy? Ha ha.

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      • mrnatewalter

        8 years ago

        What has Jared Kushner done that makes him so vile?

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  41. GarryHarris

    8 years ago

    First off, the Marlins aren’t valued at even 1/4 of $1.6B…. Second, a “handshake” with Jeffery Loria is ill advised considering that previous partners of his filed RICO act lawsuits against him. This is not a man who deals from the “top of the deck”.

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  42. jd396

    8 years ago

    Oh no what will we ever do without Loria in baseball, I’m so upset

    Ooh, chicken sandwiches for dinner gotta go

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  43. siliconmessiah

    8 years ago

    LMAO $1.6 billion when the Cubs sold for approximately $850 mil? Wow, I understand that MLB has grown but let me just say that if you pay twice what the Rickets family did for the Cubs (one of the most storied and popular organizations of any sport) you’re pretty silly. Still, I imagine Marlins fans are dancing in the streets right now. I don’t even care about the Marlins and I am really hoping this Deutsche-bank Loria is gone from baseball and this time permanently and not just until he buys another team and ruins them and their city’s budget.

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  44. start_wearing_purple

    8 years ago

    Ok, according Forbes magazine the Marlins were valued at $675M as of 11 months ago making they the 2nd least valuable team in MLB. So getting a billion more than the team’s worth?

    IF this deal happens the only way I see it working out is if they move the team to somewhere where they can get a larger revenue stream..

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  45. tealmarlin

    8 years ago

    I’ll celebrate if Loria goes away from Miami. I hope we get a Magic Johnson, Mark Cuban type owner.

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  46. dugz

    8 years ago

    I’m happy about this so I no longer have to hear baseball fans whine about Loria. It’s been the trendy thing to do now forever, and it’s so tired.

    Red Sox, Giants, Cardinals

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    • dugz

      8 years ago

      And Marlins are only teams with multiple titles this century. Many fans of teams who can’t win like those teams would gladly put up with crappy seasons to win 2 rings

      Groupthink amongst baseball fans is hella embarrassing

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      • jleve618

        8 years ago

        I was ecstatic to just win one. If it only takes 30 more years, I’ll be happy. Gotta figure that should be the average right?

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      • GarryHarris

        8 years ago

        That 1997 Florida Marlins team wasn’t Loria’s. The 1997 post season is the only time I ever thought MLB was “rigged”… I still do; no one will ever convince me otherwise!

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      • start_wearing_purple

        8 years ago

        Actually the Marlins only won it all once this century, but twice over the last 20 and only one of those under Loria.

        But your point is taken.

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      • Dookie Howser, MD

        8 years ago

        It’s hella embarrassing that you think 1997 was in this century.

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      • natsgm

        8 years ago

        Here I was thinking using the term “hella” was embarrassing

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    • largeunit

      8 years ago

      Why did you go on to rattle off 3 teams after your comment. I don’t get it.

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      • natsgm

        8 years ago

        Because he continues the thought in his next comment

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  47. largeunit

    8 years ago

    Oh, just your run-of-the-mill 1.6 BILLION dollar “handshake agreement”. hahaha

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  48. hyraxwithaflamethrower

    8 years ago

    Great news for Marlins fans. As a White Sox fan, I know how a bad owner can drag a team down and they have had perhaps the worst owner in sports…though Donald Sterling could have made a case.

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  49. MLBTRS

    8 years ago

    Please stick to baseball and avoid nonsensical political concerns over Kushner’s son’s connection to Trump. That has nothing to do with the prospective sale of the Marlins.

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    • ducksnort69

      8 years ago

      You don’t need politics to cast a shadow on this sale given the family history. I do not think MLB is an org with a ton of credibility, but I have to wonder if they want to take on this can of worms. Almost seems like Loria is trolling them.

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      • marcfrombrooklyn

        8 years ago

        The younger Kushner brother started an investment fund and a health insurance company, Oscar Health designed to take advantage of the exchanges of the Affordable Care Act. It has reportedly lost over a hundred million dollars last year and may not survive if the ACA is repealed. (It has cute ads in the subway, though.) I don’t see how he can afford the Marlins without his father and his brother unless he has some other investors with big pockets.

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        • MLBTRS

          8 years ago

          Jered is not the prospective buyer; it’s his brother and/or father and regardless, I doubt you have enough access to any of their financials to assume they can’t afford the deal without Jered.

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      • JFactor

        8 years ago

        The person involved, has nothing to do with his fathers legal matters a decade ago and has nothing to do with his brothers father in law.

        I don’t know about in other families, but I only met me brothers father in law at the wedding 15 years ago. We aren’t buddies.

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      • MLBTRS

        8 years ago

        I wasn’t referring to Charles Kushner’s history or Jered’s brother, which is fair game for any MLB decision on team ownership. I was referring to Adam’s implication that Jered’s connection to Trump was somehow relevant, which is nothing less than cheap shot politics.

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        • Dookie Howser, MD

          8 years ago

          I don’t know what “cheap shot politics” you are talking about. Nowhere does Steve imply that Jered’s connections to Trump are relevant. The Saturday update is only clarifying which Kushner is reportedly involved, after there was speculation that it was first the ex-felon father and WH adviser brother were involved.

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        • MLBTRS

          8 years ago

          You obviously didn’t read the entire article. Adams did indeed not just imply, but state very clearly that the deal could be a problem because of Jered Kushner’s position in the Trump Administration, as well as Jered’s family ties to Trump, and no, Jered was never “speculated” as a possible owner, and that’s what makes it “cheap shot politics” on a site where it doesn’t belong.

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  50. GarryHarris

    8 years ago

    Probably can buy the Detroit Tigers for less now.

    Reply
  51. MatthewBaltimore23

    8 years ago

    What kind of phone is that in the picture? A flip phone?

    Reply
  52. IloveMACfootball

    8 years ago

    This is actually WORSE for marlins fans. Your team will now be controlled by someone who voluntarily associates themselves with the biggest loser conman wasteland in the world.

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