More Of Gagne's List Revealed
We keep learning bits and pieces of Eric Gagne's 12-team allowable trade list; it'd be nice if someone would just leak the entire thing. The latest:
Gagne can be traded to the Yankees, Mets, Angels, and nine other clubs without his consent.
If Gagne is to be traded to the Tigers, Indians, Phillies, Red Sox, or thirteen other unknown clubs, he must consent. That means additional concessions on the part of the acquiring team.
Rob Bradford's recent post added the Red Sox to the latter list. While Gagne nonetheless seems keen to the idea of pitching in Boston, he sounds a little wary of being demoted to a set-up role. He and Jon Papelbon would be a lights-out late inning combination, either way. The Red Sox were in on Gagne this offseason, and he's proven his health with the Rangers recently.
T.R. Sullivan mentioned yesterday that the Diamondbacks, Cubs, Red Sox, and Yankees are the top suitors for Gagne. He seems a near-lock to be dealt in July.
I'm curious if you think Joe Nathan might go on the trading block at some point. I'm not sure how much he's owed this year, but I know the Twins have a $7,000,000 option with a $1,000,000 buyout for 2008.
$7M seems reasonable for a great RP like Nathan but he's still somewhat expensive for a small market team like the Twins. Plus, they may want to invest money in Morneau or Santana.
Anyways, it seems like reasonable a possibility to me if the Twins fall out of the race. Nathan is 32 and Neshek seems like a viable replacement.
Posted by: oxdmoneyxo | June 30, 2007 at 06:33 PM
So a bunch of teams that he would be the setup man without a chance to take over the closers role, he can be traded to without consent. A bunch of teams that he would be the top reliever he has to approve.
Maybe the teams were picked on who he and Boras thought were going to make the post season.
Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | June 30, 2007 at 08:09 PM
They thought the Red Sox wouldnt make the play-offs? Foulish.....
Posted by: Kramerica Industries | June 30, 2007 at 08:24 PM
and the Tigers, and Indians, obviously my b.s. guess is flawed.
Though if you think about when the list wouldve been drawn up the first three all had entreanched closers, the next four didn't, he signed before even Piniero was on the Sox. It just makes sense that is should be backwards. He wants to close to reach his incentives, why go to teams with closers? My brain hurts.
Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | June 30, 2007 at 08:35 PM
Arod, my guess is he choose the teams with dominant bullpens and closers as teams he could go to, probably guessing they wouldn't be after him, so then he could choose from the teams who want him.
The teams he can't be traded to are the teams after him.
What has happened is the NY teams haven't had good bullpens.
Posted by: quintjs | June 30, 2007 at 08:46 PM
That also makes sense, Boras is many things, stupid is not one of them.
Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | June 30, 2007 at 08:50 PM
well my guess if Gagne would be traded to a team like the red sox who already have a closer they would reword his contrct so that Gagne could earn his money do if he were closing. Or just give all the incentives. I also dont by the theory that he wont go to a team with a closer if he goes to team and he helps them make the play-offs and in the play-offs as a set-up man people will still pay himas a closer in the off season because that he is healthy and will be able to close for them
Posted by: Kramerica Industries | June 30, 2007 at 08:56 PM
i type so fast words are lost in my sentences...
(they know) that he is healthy and will be able to close for them
Posted by: Kramerica Industries | June 30, 2007 at 08:58 PM
When you can't get a complete no-trade clause, you have to play the game.
The rest of the teams he can go to without permission are probably teams like Oakland, Royals, Marlins, Pirates, Seattle.. in the division or teams not good enough to add a piece like Gagne.
Posted by: quintjs | June 30, 2007 at 09:01 PM
Oh don't get me started on this jerk again... :D
Didn't the deal he signed also have an option on it though? If so, wonder if that would be the catch; the trading team has to pick up the option for 08...
Also, yeah if you want to know what teams are on the 12 I think its safe to assume it looks like this:
Angeles, A's, Mariners, Yankees, DRays, O's, Mets, Nats, Marlins, Pirates, Rockies, oh and Dodgers since they prob wouldn't bring him back...
Posted by: darkstar1661 | July 01, 2007 at 10:49 AM
7th inning: Okajima
8th inning: Gagne
9th inning: Papelbon
=6 Inning games and a World Series for the Red Sox.
Posted by: Papelboner | July 01, 2007 at 11:44 AM
Gagne doesn't want to go to Boston, because they are set are closer. The sox should be looking at Otsuka. He would be under contract through at least 2008, and 2009?
Posted by: smadak | July 03, 2007 at 06:11 PM