Impacto Deportivo Manny Report

looks like they have a fairly decent track record. still fishy, but now that i see that they have gotten some stuff right raise my eyebrows as a red sox fan.

Please God no.

I'd rather come in 5th in the division then win the WS with him on the team...

Which may, I say may, explain why the Yanks purportedly dropped out of the Tex sweepstakes over the weekend.

Why commit yourself to 8 years at $21-23 million per, when you can saddle the Sox or O's with that deal and still get an impact bat without a long-term commitment?

The whole article translates into this:The article reads:

Manny Ramirez is set to sign a 3 year 75 million dollar contract with the New York Yankees. Talks started this Sunday and Ramirez said his decision will be announced Monday or Tuesday

Ramirez wanted to continue play in LA but the Dodgers weren't willing to fork up the money.

Ramirez, who hit .332 with 37 HR and 121 RBI with the Dodgers and Red Sox, will be a new attraction in New York

If true baseball will lose interest in a whole lot of other areas!

There should be somthing in place to prevent offseasons like this it takes some fun out of the sport!

i am cautiously optimistic that this is wrong. w/o the angels and maybe the sox not in the tex sweepstakes, i think theyd wait. besides, dodgers need him about 0x as much as the yanks. if its true, boras wouldnt just sign him, hed want the dodgers to counter(bidding war)

In other words, Manny wants this to be true so he "leaked" it to that newspaper himself.

It's BS.

I'm sure Manny thinks the Yankees are going to offer him a 3-year deal.

50x*

This line is the best, btw

Ramirez wanted to continue play in LA but the Dodgers weren't willing to fork up the money.

They offered him 22.5M a year, no? That sounds exactly like something Manny would say.

ElizabethFinn

I have to admit that does sound like something Manny would say. LOL

I agree with pvilly, why give 25M a year to Manny when you could give 22-23M per year to Tex, who is 28 years old, a great fielder and leader, etc...i dont get it
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A difference of over 100 mil?

I think the Yankees would only sign Manny Ramirez so quickly to possibly force Teixeira's hand and get him to go to the Nationals.

I don't know, I still contend that Teixeira will end up signing with the Royals.

Yanks raising ticket prices again next year? How about that 30 mil in bonds they asked to help with stadium financing? If this is true it's just another season of rooting hard against the Yanks, just to see their fans and owners get frustrated when they realize throwing money around doesn't fix everything.

I'm not sure I buy this.

I said from the beginning that I'd be thrilled with a 2 year deal for Manny and so-so on a 3 year deal. That's how I feel. I do think that if this is true, Manny would be extra motivated to play in New York, as that's where he grew up, and he'll be able to face Boston 20 times a year.

But again, I'm not necessarily buying this year. Whoever said 50/50 probably has it right.

YanksFan--

Because no one else would buy it.

Man-NY can handle NY media. The fans would love him! He's brash and bold and delivers. Reggie Jackson 2.0

Who cares if anyone buys it? Half the rumors out aren't substantiated.

Yanks raising ticket prices again next year? How about that 30 mil in bonds they asked to help with stadium financing? If this is true it's just another season of rooting hard against the Yanks, just to see their fans and owners get frustrated when they realize throwing money around doesn't fix everything.

Posted by: Grizzlyfox | December 21, 2008 at 11:12 PM

you are 100% correct on ticket prices..

Fellas, I have a close friend that does some scouting for the San Fran Giants and is now working for the Pirates. I got a text message from him about 2 hours ago telling me the same thing. That Manny is either on the verge of signing or already has. I know im going to get the BS flag raised at me but I won't believe it either until it's a reality

Manny Ramirez is the greatest right-handed hitter of this generation. Is he a bit of a headcase? Sure. But this is (IF true) a 3 year deal. He grew up right near Yankee Stadium. He'll be able to face Boston 20 times a year. He'll have a good chance to win. He'll have A-Rod either hitting in front or behind him.

I don't think Manny's happiness will be a concern on this deal. At least for the first 2 years. After that, it really isn't that big of a deal.

Plus, don't buy everything you read about Manny. Boston trashed Pedro and Nomar on their way out the door too. Plenty of Red Sox have praised how great Manny was, including David Ortiz.

The guy is a monster. Seeing him and A-Rod back to back is a nightmare for opposing pitchers. Even moreso than Ortiz-Ramirez was.

I'm a Yankee fan who will say for the third time on these boards - we don't need offense! Pitching and defense wins!

But if we're going to throw cake at a big name FA, I'd rather lock Tex who's great in the field, a switch hitter, and doesn't take a dump on the history of the game every time he steps into the box.

i just got another text message, and it cant be confirmed obviously and it's looking like it's definitly shoddy reporting

Chubz--

what makes you say that?

wait Chubz - first text message was confirming and second says it's shoddy reporting?

sounds like shoddy text messaging...

"But if we're going to throw cake at a big name FA, I'd rather lock Tex who's great in the field, a switch hitter, and doesn't take a dump on the history of the game every time he steps into the box."

Posted by: cdg02001
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Which is better? 3 year commitment or 8 year commitment at about the same amoun of money per year? That is a FIVE year difference. Plus they've ALREADY gave Swisher the first baseman job.

Oh Lord no. If this is true, I am going to be so unbelievably angry with Ned Colletti for dropping the ball on re-signing Manny.

But, I have optimism, given these reasons:
1) The newspaper is 50% accurate on stories over the last year.
2) All the reports leading up to this indicate that the Yankees were "preparing" to make an offer at three-years guaranteed, at around $66 million, not $75 million.

As a Dodger fan, I hope and pray this report is a farce.

Dodger: There are numerous reports that say the Yanks had already pulled their offer off the table a while ago and that Boras calledm and said that 8/180 would get it done. Therfore why would you feel they're in the lead?

im so happy i found this... i love specualtion. especially if manny sign with the yankees their lineup would be really scary. hopefully for the yankee fans sake this is true.

I think the Yankees feel that Swisher is due for a big rebound at 1B and would rather have Manny on a short-term deal. It wasn't too long ago that Swisher was a top prospect and posted some nice numbers with Oakland. Put him in that lineup and that stadium and I wouldn't be surprised to see him have a nice season.

The biggest problem that this signing would present is the OF logjam and extreme defensive liabilities that would surface. But damn, what a lineup.

1. Damon, CF
2. Jeter, SS
3. Rodriguez, 3B
4. Ramirez, LF
5. Matsui, DH
6. Posada, C
7. Nady, RF
8. Swisher, 1B
9. Cano, 2B

If this does happen who is the first to move? Matsui or Nady? I could see Matsui going to SEA or Nady going to ATL. The Braves could send over CFer Josh Anderson and a pitcher and then the Yanks could have a LF/RF/DH rotation of Manny, Matsui, and Damon. That would be pretty bad defensively but they could sure hit.

Anyone else notice how funny the guy on that website looks on the top bar? The whole website looks corny.

You'd think they would have some web designers there too..

bbxxj:

i think they woudl try to unload matsui first....nady in a contract year could be very solid

Please don't let it be so.

Even if the Yanks sign Man-NY it doesn't mean they're forced to play him in LF or Damon in CF. The obligation to Matsui is only for 1 more year. If the Yanks found a partner willing to take Matsui it would be in his best interest to accept. This way he has an opportunity to go somewhere and get playing time and prove his worth as he heads into FA in winter of 09.

YanksFanSince78
That would mean that although the Yankees got all these big named guys (manny included) by only spending 318 mil as compared to 423 last year...WOW. Take into account that they would re sign Pettitte to 10-12 million to be our number 5 . That would leave them in great shape and if they want to match last years offseason spendings they would still have enough money to use to upgrade the pen significantly or even deepen the bench depth.

I feel the sentiment that Yankees fans, and most fans here, would expect a subsequent move of either Matsui or Nady if Manny is signed.

But, I do also want to further emphasize the point being put across that this does not seem like a Scot Boras type move at all. I would expect Boras to use an offer, such as this one, to hopefully drive up the offer from the Dodgers. As it stands the only offer they made to Manny, and actually pulled (which some people forget), was 2 years $45 and a $15 million third year option.

I said it when they pulled that offer, and I'll say it again, Ned has about $40-45 million to "play" with, and that first offer sure is not going to be the only offer he will make to Manny.

Yeah but it wasn't the 1st offer. The first offer didn't include the option year. Meanwhile, maybe Man-NY wanted to go to NY all along. He is from there and would have 20 opportunities to stick it to Boston. Plus the DOdgers, at the time, weren't willing to guarantee the 3rd year. Who knows?

I don't know about you 'hendrix, but CC, AJ and Man-NY goes along way towards proving otherwise. If Cash does that then it's all up to the players to perform. And I caution all the Rays and Boston supporters to not addume that the division is their's prior to stepping out on the field.

I've never loathed Manny Ramirez. I think he's hilarious and one of the most amazing talents I've ever seen.

And I don't bitch about players not being loyal and going after the biggest buck...that is their right. Why shouldn't they go for the highest offer? Anyone in real life would, why are they different? It's business.

A little off topic and a little too soon to say , but if the Yankees get Manny and Do Not get Tex, do you think they'll go after Pujols in 2011?

I am going to close with this....
Just think of how many homers Manny would hit as a Yankee trying to represent NY and trying to stick it to the Red Sox. Its ridiculously scary considering the fact that he will show up with runners in scoring position, protect ARods @ss, and provide a seasoned bat like no other in the postseason (if they make it). When motivated Manny Ramirez is without a doubt the best Right Handed hitter in all of baseball and for the Yankee fans out there forgive Manny and welcome him with open arms, this guy is a beast and will cause the Red Sox to tremble for a change.

10-15 years? Pujols is under team control through 2011.

my bad...winter of 2011. don't think he'll make it that far.

wat good will speed and defense do if there is only 1 person in the lineup to count on to drive in a run

2008 Runs Scored:
Tampa Bay - 774 (won division)
LAA - 765 (AL's best record)
NYY - 789

We got the pitching. Now we need to get better defense and more athletic!

I know we don't have Giambi or Abreu anymore - I'm counting on a full season from Matsui and Posada and a rebound from Cano. And even without that, I expect Swisher's production to be close to Giambi's.

3 extra runs a game! He's worth billions!!

"Please God no.

I'd rather come in 5th in the division then win the WS with him on the team..."

So then go root for the Royals you knuckle head. I promise, you won't be missed.

"Reggie Jackson 2.0 but looked at the tumult Jackson caused in the clubhouse. Enough of that."

Why the hell do you care whether the guys in the locker room get along if they win the world series? Apparently a championship isn't enough for you, you want a championship but you also want a Brady Bunch like clubhouse where the players display their affection for each other publicly, where they all live in harmony and sing "Kumbaya" after each game. Reggie Jackson hitting clutch post-season bombs isn't good enough. He, Thurmon and Billy Martin have to have a nightly circle jerk on top of that.

"We Yankees fans, those of us who want more offense, want a quality player who's going to be a great clubhouse presence, have a positive attitude, and contribute defensively, too. At least I do. Don't lump all of us together."

Do you want fries with that? You seem awfully hard to please.

I have read a couple of posts that the Yanks should trade Matsui. What do you think they would want for him? I know of one NL team looking for a lefty bat who plays outfield. They may eat the salary if the prospect isnt too much. Just curious.