Cafardo’s Latest: Arroyo, Carmona, Garza, Lilly

In this week's installment of his Baseball Notes feature, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe discusses the 2006 deal that sent Bronson Arroyo to Cincinnati for Wily Mo Pena. "I'm sure it's not one [trade] that Theo has on his mantle at home," Arroyo jokes, before going on to say that he'd love to stay with the Reds past this season. The team holds an $11MM 2011 option ($2MM buyout) for Arroyo. Here are Cafardo's other notes of interest:

  • The Brewers and the Rangers, before they acquired Cliff Lee, were among the teams "sniffing around" Fausto Carmona.
  • Cafardo wouldn't be shocked if the Rays were willing to discuss trading Matt Garza, with Jeremy Hellickson waiting in the wings (2.21 ERA in 105.2 Triple-A innings). In exchange for an impact bat, the Rays appear more inclined to deal major league players than prospects. A National League scout tells Cafardo that the team has been "very willing to include B.J. Upton in trade talks" and may even think about moving Wade Davis, if the price was right.
  • The Rays also have some interest in Ted Lilly, who could be a fit for the Twins and Tigers as well.
  • Cafardo thinks the Red Sox should pursue Evan Meek if the Pirates make him available.
  • Lou Piniella's agent Alan Nero says that the Cubs' skipper will definitely finish out the season, but isn't sure about Piniella's future past this year.

33 Responses to Cafardo’s Latest: Arroyo, Carmona, Garza, Lilly Leave a Reply

  1. BravesRed 5 years ago

    I’m with everyone else now, stop posting Cafardo’s stuff.

  2. Cyyoung 5 years ago

    Nationals wouldn’t be interested in a trade with the Rays that included Dunn, to Tampa.

  3. HerbertAnchovy 5 years ago

    I would think Carmona’s value has plummeted since the ’07 season, however he’s still young.

  4. aap212 5 years ago

    Why would Garza be the guy Tampa trades? I would think they might be willing to part with Davis or might decide that this is the best Niemann will ever be and to trade him while his value is highest. But Garza?

  5. Guest 5 years ago

    Evan Meeks value is sky high right now, but I still see the Bucs holding on to him.

    • jmag043 5 years ago

      Theres too much upside to him for the Pirates to move him while hes cheap.

      Then again, its the pirates.

  6. jmag043 5 years ago

    Corey Hart for Wade Davis straight up.

    Or a big package with Hellickson as centerpiece for fielder. I think the rays have the stuff to make a fielder trade work.

  7. How about a Wade Davis to Houston for Lance Berkman with the Astros eating most of the money?

    • jmag043 5 years ago

      Id think theyd prefer Hart, someone who has better power numbers and speed, is a decent fielder, and is under team control next year.

      • You mean like Lance Berkman? (minus the speed)

        • jmag043 5 years ago

          The only place Berkman can really play nowadays is 1B. The astros have about 7MM remaining this season plus the 2MM buyout for next season. That’s a lot of money to eat for an aging slugger with declining power numbers.

  8. Meek would/should cost a boatload.

  9. Dylan 5 years ago

    Phillies need to be all over Garza, the guy is an amazing pitcher….include Werth and some prospects…maybe buy low on BJ Upton as well.

    • aap212 5 years ago

      What else would you like the Rays to hand over?

      • Dylan 5 years ago

        I heard that third basemen is pretty good they have…they can include him too.

  10. Garza and Upton for Werth and singleton.

    Rays have no 1B anyway, Pena stinks. Crappy average.

    • Dylan 5 years ago

      Singleton is a good piece right now…unless he is converted to a RF, he has no value to the Phillies until he is like 25 or 26….love to see the Phillies go after one of Garza or Davis…would cost less than Haren (prospect-wise) and could have similar results…although Garza can be a headcase.

      • aap212 5 years ago

        Singleton has no chance of playing right field and Brown has that waiting for him anyway.

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  11. baseball52 5 years ago

    Tremendous Ted is pretty popular these days!

    • studio179 5 years ago

      ‘Tremendous Ted’ needs to pitch better up to the deadline than his last two starts.

      • baseball52 5 years ago

        Sush! If we don’t talk about it, the Mets won’t notice.

  12. bomberj11 5 years ago

    Every time my family and I we’re watching a Red Sox game there would be a collective groan every time Pena came to bat…

  13. bjordanr63 5 years ago

    Garza for Ryan Ludwick and Tyler Greene?

    Rays get a great impact bat who would fall into their salary range (5.45 mil this year/ arb next year) for this year and next and a pretty decent hitting ML ready shortstop prospect.

    Cards get the impact pitching help they need who won’t cost high dollars and won’t require giving up Shelby Miller. Jon Jay/Allen Craig take over right field.

    • baseball52 5 years ago

      How many shortstops do the Rays need?

    • aap212 5 years ago

      Garza’s young and performing like a number two starter in the AL East. Ludwick is 31 and putting up an 822 OPS in the NL central. Great impact bat? Come on. Garza’s way more valuable, and Greene doesn’t give the Rays anything they even slightly need.

  14. bucco_nation 5 years ago

    You kidding me? It makes me sick teams like the Sox and the geeks that cover them think they can get any player. Meek is our stud, future closer. What a joke.

    • jwredsox 5 years ago

      Where did he say the sox could acquire him? All Cafardo said was that if he were made available the Sox should pursue him. You can say that about any player. Like if the Tigers made Miguel Cabrera available the Sox should pursue not that the sox are entitled to any player. Stop being so bitter man.

  15. thetruthistoldagain 5 years ago

    ill listen to carfado any day than listen to some clown who calls himself woadude

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