Cafardo’s Latest: Arroyo, Carmona, Garza, Lilly

In this week's installment of his Baseball Notes feature, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe discusses the 2006 deal that sent Bronson Arroyo to Cincinnati for Wily Mo Pena. "I'm sure it's not one [trade] that Theo has on his mantle at home," Arroyo jokes, before going on to say that he'd love to stay with the Reds past this season. The team holds an $11MM 2011 option ($2MM buyout) for Arroyo. Here are Cafardo's other notes of interest:

  • The Brewers and the Rangers, before they acquired Cliff Lee, were among the teams "sniffing around" Fausto Carmona.
  • Cafardo wouldn't be shocked if the Rays were willing to discuss trading Matt Garza, with Jeremy Hellickson waiting in the wings (2.21 ERA in 105.2 Triple-A innings). In exchange for an impact bat, the Rays appear more inclined to deal major league players than prospects. A National League scout tells Cafardo that the team has been "very willing to include B.J. Upton in trade talks" and may even think about moving Wade Davis, if the price was right.
  • The Rays also have some interest in Ted Lilly, who could be a fit for the Twins and Tigers as well.
  • Cafardo thinks the Red Sox should pursue Evan Meek if the Pirates make him available.
  • Lou Piniella's agent Alan Nero says that the Cubs' skipper will definitely finish out the season, but isn't sure about Piniella's future past this year.


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33 Comments on "Cafardo’s Latest: Arroyo, Carmona, Garza, Lilly"


BravesRed
5 years 1 month ago

I’m with everyone else now, stop posting Cafardo’s stuff.

Cyyoung
5 years 1 month ago

Nationals wouldn’t be interested in a trade with the Rays that included Dunn, to Tampa.

HerbertAnchovy
5 years 1 month ago

I would think Carmona’s value has plummeted since the ’07 season, however he’s still young.

aap212
5 years 1 month ago

Why would Garza be the guy Tampa trades? I would think they might be willing to part with Davis or might decide that this is the best Niemann will ever be and to trade him while his value is highest. But Garza?

jwredsox
5 years 1 month ago

Agreed

5 years 1 month ago

I think they should trade Shields before they ever trade Garza

aap212
5 years 1 month ago

You can’t trade Shields. He’s signed long term to a ridiculously team friendly contract.

5 years 1 month ago

thatsthepoint.jpg (neither of them should be traded)

Guest
5 years 1 month ago

Evan Meeks value is sky high right now, but I still see the Bucs holding on to him.

jmag043
5 years 1 month ago

Theres too much upside to him for the Pirates to move him while hes cheap.

Then again, its the pirates.

jmag043
5 years 1 month ago

Corey Hart for Wade Davis straight up.

Or a big package with Hellickson as centerpiece for fielder. I think the rays have the stuff to make a fielder trade work.

5 years 1 month ago

How about a Wade Davis to Houston for Lance Berkman with the Astros eating most of the money?

jmag043
5 years 1 month ago

Id think theyd prefer Hart, someone who has better power numbers and speed, is a decent fielder, and is under team control next year.

5 years 1 month ago

You mean like Lance Berkman? (minus the speed)

jmag043
5 years 1 month ago

The only place Berkman can really play nowadays is 1B. The astros have about 7MM remaining this season plus the 2MM buyout for next season. That’s a lot of money to eat for an aging slugger with declining power numbers.

5 years 1 month ago

Meek would/should cost a boatload.

Dylan
5 years 1 month ago

Phillies need to be all over Garza, the guy is an amazing pitcher….include Werth and some prospects…maybe buy low on BJ Upton as well.

aap212
5 years 1 month ago

What else would you like the Rays to hand over?

Dylan
5 years 1 month ago

I heard that third basemen is pretty good they have…they can include him too.

5 years 1 month ago

Garza and Upton for Werth and singleton.

Rays have no 1B anyway, Pena stinks. Crappy average.

Dylan
5 years 1 month ago

Singleton is a good piece right now…unless he is converted to a RF, he has no value to the Phillies until he is like 25 or 26….love to see the Phillies go after one of Garza or Davis…would cost less than Haren (prospect-wise) and could have similar results…although Garza can be a headcase.

aap212
5 years 1 month ago

Singleton has no chance of playing right field and Brown has that waiting for him anyway.

aap212
5 years 1 month ago

Hilarious.

baseball52
5 years 1 month ago

Tremendous Ted is pretty popular these days!

studio179
5 years 1 month ago

‘Tremendous Ted’ needs to pitch better up to the deadline than his last two starts.

baseball52
5 years 1 month ago

Sush! If we don’t talk about it, the Mets won’t notice.

bomberj11
5 years 1 month ago

Every time my family and I we’re watching a Red Sox game there would be a collective groan every time Pena came to bat…

bjordanr63
5 years 1 month ago

Garza for Ryan Ludwick and Tyler Greene?

Rays get a great impact bat who would fall into their salary range (5.45 mil this year/ arb next year) for this year and next and a pretty decent hitting ML ready shortstop prospect.

Cards get the impact pitching help they need who won’t cost high dollars and won’t require giving up Shelby Miller. Jon Jay/Allen Craig take over right field.

baseball52
5 years 1 month ago

How many shortstops do the Rays need?

aap212
5 years 1 month ago

Garza’s young and performing like a number two starter in the AL East. Ludwick is 31 and putting up an 822 OPS in the NL central. Great impact bat? Come on. Garza’s way more valuable, and Greene doesn’t give the Rays anything they even slightly need.

bucco_nation
5 years 1 month ago

You kidding me? It makes me sick teams like the Sox and the geeks that cover them think they can get any player. Meek is our stud, future closer. What a joke.

jwredsox
5 years 1 month ago

Where did he say the sox could acquire him? All Cafardo said was that if he were made available the Sox should pursue him. You can say that about any player. Like if the Tigers made Miguel Cabrera available the Sox should pursue not that the sox are entitled to any player. Stop being so bitter man.

thetruthistoldagain
5 years 1 month ago

ill listen to carfado any day than listen to some clown who calls himself woadude