Anthopoulos Talks Encarnacion, Buck

Alex Anthopoulos spoke to Jeff Blair of The Fan 590 before his plane took off for Orlando yesterday, and the Blue Jays GM said he was trying to get a signing done right before the radio show call.  Some have speculated on Manny Ramirez, who's been hanging out in Toronto lately, while others point out that at the very least the Jays would wait a week until after the White Sox have declined to offer him arbitration.  At this point we know Manny likes the Blue Jays but not whether interest is mutual.  It does appear Manny needs the Jays more than they need him.  If a Blue Jays signing of any kind is to happen before the 23rd, it'd have to be a free agent not ranked as a Type A.

Anthopoulos went on to say that his talks with agents over the last week suggest the free agent market might move faster than in years past, as people "try to jump out early and get things done."

On the topic of Edwin Encarnacion, Anthopoulos explained that the third baseman is in line for an arbitration raise of $1-2MM on top of this year's $4.75MM salary.  That salary, plus Encarnacion's desire to play every day, wasn't a fit for the Jays.  Encarnacion was claimed by the Athletics, but he could still be non-tendered on December 2nd.  Anthopoulos has not closed the door in the event that happens.

Anthopoulos described the market for John Buck as "very, very strong" after talking to his agents at ACES.  He says Buck is "sitting on years and dollars that might be a little steep for us," but that the catcher's agents will give the Jays a chance to match before he signs.  We saw extra contract years tossed around for multiple free agent catchers last year; could a 30-year-old Buck find a three-year deal?


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46 Comments on "Anthopoulos Talks Encarnacion, Buck"


4 years 9 months ago

Projected 2011 Lineup for the Jays?

C- Olivo(8)
1b- Lind(5)
2b- Hill(7)
SS- Escobar(2)
3b- Bautista(4)
LF- Lewis(1)
CF- Wells(6)
RF- Snider(9)
DH- Manny(3)

Bench:

IF J.Mcdonald
1b/3b Wallace
C Arencibia
OF D.Wise

dizzle4
4 years 9 months ago

They traded Wallace like four months ago.

DeWayne Wise was cut last week.

And I can’t imagine that Fred Lewis is in the starting lineup next year.

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

oh, did we re acquire Wallace from Houston?

4 years 9 months ago

Should you not be at least a little informed before throwing this out there?

Is Arencibia not slated to be the starter with Jose Molina backing him up? Wasnt the intention of getting Olivo to get the pick for him? Wise, as stated was cut… Wallace was traded for Anthony Gose… Are they not looking into getting Uggla (Which probably takes Arencibia + to get)? and moving Hill to 3rd? So many question marks and to throw an uninformed lineup like that out is kinda funny…

4 years 9 months ago

Where’s Roy Halladay?

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

I think maybe Alex Rios should start in RF

4 years 9 months ago

Can Carlos Delgado play first then? and maybe Tony Fernandez can be the utility IF we need… Shawn Green as a 4th outfield anyone? lol…

adameb
4 years 9 months ago

Sirotka will be the opening night starter, no?

counciltucky
4 years 9 months ago

No he’s slated to be #2 — Marty Janzen’s the Opening Night starter.

Infield Fly
4 years 9 months ago

All this talk and no love for Robbie Alomar? What’s the fan base coming to?! ;-p

BG921
4 years 9 months ago

You forgot Jesse Barfield, Raul Mondesi, and Shawn Green!

Hits & Gigs
4 years 9 months ago

There are so many things wrong with this but the fact that you put Snider in the 9 hole……GTFO CITO

adameb
4 years 9 months ago

The rotation should be sweet too:
Halladay
Carpenter
Chacin
McGowan
Bush

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

you left out Guzman

adameb
4 years 9 months ago

Him and Miggy Batista are long relief. Duh.

John Meloche
4 years 9 months ago

I think Towers would fit nicely…

The_Porcupine
4 years 9 months ago

I might be one of the few, but I really would hate to see Manny as a Jay. I think his injury risk/prima donna risk outweigh the potential gain in offense. I’m just not sold on his offensive skills holding up. You can note the fancy sabermetrics that indicate his value, but I just have a gut feeling that he’s being overvalued. I would rather have Magglio Ordonez with the same injury risk, less prima donna risk.

4 years 9 months ago

The price is probably right though… He wont be signing for 20M + a season but if the Jays can get him at a 6-7 million for 1 year + incentives… why not try it? He wont need to play defense, cutting down the injury risk… and he wants to play for Farrell… which means that prima donna BS might be cut down…

The_Porcupine
4 years 9 months ago

I agree about the limited financial risk, I just don’t think he will provide the offense that is expected.

jayfantilldeath
4 years 9 months ago

I think your base salary is still way to high – 1-2 mill tops plus incentives. I would love a 500K min plus 2-3 mill in incentives only. I still can’t see AA doing this, unless he was the one who talked JP into signing Frank Thomas a few years back. Even if Manny was a type A next year would the Jays really offer arbitration and risk having him for two years as no one would sign him if they had to give up a pick

jeffdg
4 years 9 months ago

“and he wants to play for Farrell… ”
Correction:
“he wants to play for money”.

Fullmer_Fan
4 years 9 months ago

There is no risk in signing Manny Ramirez to a one year, incentive-laden contract.

BG921
4 years 9 months ago

Alex Anthopoulos has done some nice things in his short tenure with the Blue Jays. If the Jays do decide to sign Manny on a one year deal it could definitely work out. My belief behind this is that Manny has to prove his health and he will be motivated by the fact that he could potentially earn a bigger contract next off-season. Toronto has a strong Latin base that would really embrace Manny, hopefully if they do sign him he would return the favor and do some nice things for the Jays. (Plus playing in Rogers Centre would only help his numbers)…

SneakyLongBalls
4 years 9 months ago

It would be entertaining to see Manny in a Jays uniform hitting a couple homers in Fenway. One could only imagine the fans reactions

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

My 2011 Jays Lineup… Let the bashing and criticizing begin!

Batting order.

Chone Figgins (2B) —Acquired for Brad Emaus, Rzepcyzski and David Cooper
Yunel Escobar (SS)
Adam Lind (1B)
Jose Bautista (RF)
Travis Snider (LF)
Vernon Wells (CF)
Vladdy/Manny (DH)… I personally rather have vladdy, but any DH on a 1year deal will do
JP Arenciba (C)
Aaron Hill (3B)

Bullpen…

David Purcey
Jason Frasor (accepts arbitration)
Josh Roenicke (expect better things for him in 2011)
Sean Hill
Casey Jansen
Brian Fuentes Setup/Closer
Jon Rauch Setup/Closer

Starting Rotation

Morrow
Romero
Marcum
Cecil
Drabek

Bench

Johnny Mac
Eric Thames
Molina
(back up 1b spot)

adameb
4 years 9 months ago

If there were 2 wildcard slots, that team would make a good shot at one of them.

briantalletsmoustache
4 years 9 months ago

Super-minor point, but why leave Figgins at 2B (and, I don’t think that package would get him, though it’s not an absurd or insulting offer) and move Hill to 3B, when Figgins up until this year played 3B (and incidentally, had his production drop off when he changed positions).

I also don’t like Vlad on artificial turf, even if he is just running the bases. Still, I’d be happy to watch that team play.

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

good point about 2b/3b.. i put hill at 3B only because it looks as if eventually once hech comes up, that if Hill is to be on the jays he is going to have to move over, esco to 2b. but you could leave them as is definitely.

and i think that package would land figgins because his contract is for 9.5 for the next 3 years, mariners would love to get out of it, so they will have to take a lesser package, if they agree to kick in some cash then they can get someone better.

Hits & Gigs
4 years 9 months ago

that would be fun to watch, gotta say

The_Porcupine
4 years 9 months ago

I’ve always liked the idea of picking up Figgins to leadoff. I like him at third though, where he was a borderline gold glover for the Angels. I definitely don’t like Manny, but I’d take Vlad. But I think Ordonez would be better, though I’m not sure about the financial differences between the two. I like the idea of co-closers, but why not bring in another one to mix and match with (maybe Putz)? Regardless, I do think you’d need another arm in the pen so you don’t expect too much out of Hill, Purcey, and Roenecke.

It would be a very competitive ball club on a daily basis. Not sure it would be post season worthy, but they would be in position to take advantage if either the Yanks or Red Sox slip.

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

I think Purcey and Roenicke are ready for more important roles on the team. both aren’t getting any younger and the next year could be make or breaks for them both..

Hill is just a throw in, he’s a good pitcher, but essentially there is no room for guys like Hill, Litsch, Mills, Richmond, Hill might be the best of the bunch so perhaps they keep him and make him the long man.

jeffdg
4 years 9 months ago

Didn’t Figgins make it through waivers? He has MUCHO $’s left on his contract.

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

Jays can absorb the salary, its only for 3 more years, and lead off batters are hard to come by. I mean last year the Jays started with friggin Jose Bautista batting lead off, then fred lewis and then travis snider?

To me the lead off position is the most important thing to be resolved this off season.

The_Porcupine
4 years 9 months ago

I agree that the Jays need a lead off hitter. Too many teams undervalue getting a legit lead off hitter that can get on base and score runs.

However I think setting up the bullpen is just as important.

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

Realistically the bullpen will figure itself out, I think it would be nice to make a free agent signing or two to solidify it. but i would be perfectly fine going in to next year just using home grown arms in the pen..

I mean, Richmond, Hill, Litsch, Rzep, Carlson, Lewis, Magnuson, Farquhar… the jays have plenty of arms and plenty of options, I think even bringing up Stewart to close is an option as well.

jeffdg
4 years 9 months ago

I agree and i think he could be a real asset. If he plays at the level he did in his free agent year. And i think SEA might move him for next to nothing…as he clearly didnt fit last year.

jeffdg
4 years 9 months ago

And not many teams would take his salary.

Tko11
4 years 9 months ago

I actually really like the look of that team.

baseballz
4 years 9 months ago

So the 23rd is the deadline to offer arbitration right ? AA has to wait until then, doesn’t he ? PLZ WAIT AA

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

No chance in the world he would sign a type A before then and give up a pick. it goes against everything he’s done so far.

gs01
4 years 9 months ago

I think Manny would do very good in the Jays lineup with all of the protection he would have like Bautista, Wells, Lind, Hill and Snider. In LA he didn’t have that kind of a lineup around him.

jeffdg
4 years 9 months ago

AA also noted, that he was talking to Buck’s agent about other free agents.

j96
4 years 9 months ago

Thats a good call on figgins he had an off year last year but will bounch back but have him a 3B..so heres my playoff atarting line up

chone figgins(3B) for Brad Emaus, Rzepcyzsk, Brad Mills
Yunel Escobar(SS)
Jose Bautista(RF)
Manny Ramirez(DH)-1year 3 mill plus 1mill 100+RBI and 1mill with 600 AB
Victor Martinez(C/1B)- 4Year 53 mill
Vernon Wells(CF)
Adam Lind(1B/DH)
Travis Snider(LF)
Aaron Hill(2B)

SP:Morrow
Romaro
Cecil
Marcum
Garland-2 year 14 mill

CL:Kevin Gregg-2 year 7.5 mill

Play off team
just need relievers(dont have time right now to figure that out)

rzepczynski
4 years 9 months ago

v mart= no thanks
garland= no thanks
gregg had a 2 year 7.75 option that was declined
let molina and aaron cibia handle the catching duties

j96
4 years 9 months ago

greggs a pretty good pitcher and they still can re-sign him and why not v mart hes a 300 hitter and could play first base jpa is not ready he had one game he played good thats about it and galand not to much money and 14 wins last year and a 3.47 ERA

2UGGLA2BINTO
4 years 9 months ago

Gregg???…Iwould rather have Putz,Benoit,Camp,Purcey…..or Hentgen.