Red Sox Wanted Matt Garza For Epstein

The Red Sox asked the Cubs to include Matt Garza as compensation for GM Theo Epstein, according to Bruce Levine of ESPNChicago.com. However, the Cubs declined and the sides have moved on to minor leaguers. The Red Sox currently appear to be focused on Cubs pitching prospect Trey McNutt.

White McNutt is a valuable prospect, he's not as desirable as Garza. The 27-year-old right-hander posted a 3.32 ERA with 9.0 K/9 and 2.9 BB/9 for the Cubs this year and remains under team control through 2013. It's no surprise that the Red Sox were interested and it's equally unsurprising that the Cubs balked at Boston's request. The Cubs acquired Garza from the Rays in the January deal that sent Chris Archer, Hak-Ju Lee, Robinson Chirinos, Sam Fuld and Brandon Guyer to Tampa Bay.


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198 Comments on "Red Sox Wanted Matt Garza For Epstein"


Lunchbox45
3 years 10 months ago

Whoa… would Theo even want to go to a Garza-less cubs? I know he probably doesn’t have much say, but he probably doesn’t want to weaken the team he his about to be in charge of.  (that much)

CAD_Monkey
3 years 10 months ago

lol

Dynasty22
3 years 10 months ago

My thoughts exactly.

nycub
3 years 10 months ago

Srsly! I can only imagine this conversation

Boston: We want Garza

Chicago: Hahaha

Boston: No, seriously

Chicago: :slaps Boston in the face:

I was, at first, wary of the reports of the talks being contentious. However, now having this information, I am a bit more amenable to accepting that…

diesel2410
3 years 10 months ago

I feel bad for the Red Sox. Oh wait no I don’t.

Redsoxn8tion
3 years 10 months ago

Hatin’ on the Red Sox again huh diesel2410? What’s the deal man?

chico65
3 years 10 months ago

Truly pure silliness

3 years 10 months ago

Well cant blame them for trying, I suppose.

FamousGrouse
3 years 10 months ago

Exactly. If a few words can get you a starting pitcher, say those words.

animal_strength
3 years 10 months ago

lmao i lmaoed

Infield Fly
3 years 10 months ago

I’m not saying they should shoot themselves in the foot, but if the Cubs want Theo that bad they really need to find somebody of reasonable value who they are willing to give up in exchange (as this probably isn’t going to be a bad contract dump opportunity).

3 years 10 months ago

The Red Sox owe Epstein $3.7 million as a golden parachute. That means if he quits the day after the World Series they owe him $3.7 million.

If he stays for another year it will be as a figurehead that does nothing since they already announced Cherington is the new Red Sox GM and Epstein is under contract for $3 million in 2012.

That is a $6.7 million savings just by the Cubs paying his golden parachute.

For $6.7 million they can sign a great prospect.

sourbob
3 years 10 months ago

Lunatics from planet wackadoo. Seriously.

3 years 10 months ago

Give em Z or SORRYIANO

fxx3605
3 years 10 months ago

guess lester lackey and beckett werent the only ones drinking

3 years 10 months ago

genius

fxx3605
3 years 10 months ago

48 likes…jesus

s8n666
3 years 10 months ago

You are pushing 100.  Mazal tov!

notsureifsrs
3 years 10 months ago

you should retire. go out on top

Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 10 months ago

I’ll give you a ‘like’ cause I wanna see this reach 100, and because it was well done.

*slow clap*

kldhca
3 years 10 months ago

What if the Cubs say here is what we will give you take it or leave it?  Would the Red sox say no and walk away, pay Theo to not manage.  This would force the cubs to have a lame duck GM until next year or have the ownership run the team’s operation until such a time that they can get theo 

GermanyOrFlorida
3 years 10 months ago

The Red Sox are absolutely in a position to say oh well, try again next year.

kldhca
3 years 10 months ago

Really, I would think the Cubs hold a better position they can wait another year to get Theo
The Sox would have to pay him to do nothing and with the crap storm the ownership caused with the exiting manager i would think they would just want to wash their hands of this

3 years 10 months ago

Imagine what the fans will be like after they’re this close to getting a new GM and the Cubs blowing it. Especially because Garza probably won’t be there by the time they’re contending.

Not in any way trying to support that Theo = Garza, but the Cubs don’t have all the leverage.

Matt Mitchener
3 years 10 months ago

Or the Cubs could trade Garza for a bunch of Good prospects then sign Theo a year later.

GermanyOrFlorida
3 years 10 months ago

You haven’t paid attention to :
– how many public brinksmanship deals the Red Sox have walked away from
– the fact that Theo already left once and came back
– the fact that the Red Sox have money to burn

3 years 10 months ago

Randy Bush is fully capable and willing to be the Cubs GM for a year and it costs the Red Sox $6.7 million to do that.

Epstein WILL leave and he WILL get a high paying job next year.

I know Lucchino is a backstabbing prick, but is screwing your former GM worth $6.7 million?

dc21892
3 years 10 months ago

Well that would have been nice.

notsureifsrs
3 years 10 months ago

red sox hire scott boras for epstein negotiations

TheHotCorner
3 years 10 months ago

LOL…I guess you really can’t blame them for trying.

razorwing77
3 years 10 months ago

good try.

neurogame
3 years 10 months ago

This is a double standard!  So people are up in arms about players eating fried chicken, playing xbox and drinking beer during games and yet Red Sox upper management can do crystal meth in their offices? I mean, I don’t “know” that they were doing crystal meth but that has to be the explanation as to why they thought the Cubs would send them Matt Garza.

I guess the rumors are true – signing free agent busts is a gateway drug.

3 years 10 months ago

I was thinking crack cocaine, but crystal meth works.

imachainsaw
3 years 10 months ago

crack doesn’t create a disconnect from ‘reality’. but I love the thought of high-end baseball execs sucking on a crack pipe.

3 years 10 months ago

lmao. atleast they’re trying

3 years 10 months ago

They want Starlin Castro for Lackey too.

3 years 10 months ago

cocaine’s a helluva drug

NOT KIDDING
3 years 10 months ago

haha I came here to make this exact same joke, but you beat me to it. 

Whowonthe2009WorldSeries
3 years 10 months ago

All I can say is, EL OH EL

notsureifsrs
3 years 10 months ago

i don’t always ask for a team’s ace in exchange for my already-leaving executive, but when i do, i settle for a struggling pitching prospect instead

YanksFanSince78
3 years 10 months ago

Dos Equis must pack a hell of a punch. It makes ya stupid.

3 years 10 months ago

Sam Adams Boston Lager by the keg is more like it.

cubs223425
3 years 10 months ago

Randy Wells it is!

alexchicago14
3 years 10 months ago

Stay Drinking Red Sox….

dru2034
3 years 10 months ago

serves them right…should be stealing GM’s who are under contract..GL winning a world series in the 21st century.. Chicago Scrubs

3 years 10 months ago

u mad woman?

3 years 10 months ago

Yeah serves the Cubs right. Doesnt matter though the Red Sox won the World Series last December right?

dru2034
3 years 10 months ago

i dont care about the redsox either..i dont like either team..what i am a fan of is watching these two teams continuing to self-destruct and continuing to have insanely high payrolls… How bout this Ricketts..fix your stadium..its falling apart..how about this henry..get control of your ball club who free-falled while hammered drunk every day

3 years 10 months ago

Both suggestions are just flawless and based on credible, believable, realistic info. I concur.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 10 months ago

Stealing or more like talking to an exec they were given permission to talk to? Crazy.

dru2034
3 years 10 months ago

you make a good point yanksfansince78..he was granted permission..but everyone knows the rules..you come to terms..you pay the price..

cubs223425
3 years 10 months ago

5 years, $18.5 million, not the best pitcher on the team in almsot 10 years.