Padres Acquire Carlos Quentin

The Padres have acquired Carlos Quentin from the White Sox for pitching prospects Simon Castro and Pedro Hernandez, the teams announced.  It's the second time Padres GM Josh Byrnes and White Sox GM Kenny Williams have gotten together for a trade involving Quentin; Byrnes was the Diamondbacks GM when the outfielder was traded from Arizona to the ChiSox in 2007. 

Quentin, 29, grew up in San Diego and will instantly add some power to the offensively challenged Padres' lineup.  The right-hander hitter produced a .254/.340/.499 batting line with 24 homers in 2011, and he's hit .257/.352/.505 with at least 21 homers per year from '08-'11.

13076543During his time in Chicago, the outfielder has battled shoulder, foot, hamstring, and wrist problems, requiring four separate stints on the disabled list.  We project him to earn $7.5MM his third time through arbitration in 2012 before becoming a free agent after the season.  On the surface, the deal appears to be a cost-cutting measure for the White Sox.

Castro, a 23-year-old right-hander, was ranked as the Padres third best prospect at this time last year by Baseball America but was left off of this year's top ten list.  In 2009, Castro was tabbed as the best pitcher in the Padres system after turning in a 3.33 ERA with 10.1 K/9 and 2.4 BB/9 for the club's Single-A affiliate.  The 6-foot-5 hurler started off 2011 with Double-A San Antonio before being promoted to Triple-A Tucson.  Combined, Castro posted a 5.63 ERA with 7.4 K/9 and 2.7 BB/9 in 2011. 

Hernandez, 22, was also left off of Baseball America's top ten list of Padres prospects in 2011.  The left-hander worked his way up from Class-A+ Lake Elsinore to San Antonio and finished the year in Tuscon.  In total, Hernandez turned in 116 innings of work with a 3.49 ERA, 7.3 K/9 and 1.7 BB/9.

Neither prospect was ranked among the top 25 in San Diego's system by John Sickels of Minor League Ball while Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus had Castro tabbed at No. 20.  Goldstein writes that Castro has "gone backwards from [his] big prospect days" and cites the fastball as his only dependable pitch.

The first time Josh Byrnes and Ken Williams hooked up in a trade involving Quentin, the outfielder was sent to the White Sox for first baseman Chris Carter.

Zach Links contributed to this post.


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426 Comments on "Padres Acquire Carlos Quentin"


3 years 7 months ago

Great move

Triple Hawpes Brewed
3 years 7 months ago

The Padres finally have an offensive threat in their lineup. Of course he will be walked to get to nobody.

John Kappel
3 years 7 months ago

Between him and Alonso along with Orlando Hudson the lineup should be solid. And by solid I mean average but not harmful.

YODA777
3 years 7 months ago

Padre lineup
1.  Maybin – CF
2.  Headley – 3b
3.  Alonzo – LF
4.  Quentin – RF
5.  Rizzo – 1b
6.  Hundley – C
7.  Hudson – 2b
8.  Bartlett – SS

Alonzo in LF [he played there for Cinci] might be a bit far fetched and Rizzo might not make it out of ST; however, I sure hope the Padres do not trade Rizzo just yet.  We can always give Rizzo another shot at 1b and if it does not work out, put Guzman in LF and move Alonzo back to 1b.  If both Rizzo and  Alonzo have good offensive years then the Padres will have a valuable trade chip for next winter. I still think Blanks will get it together, but a change in home ballparks would do him wonders,  I think Venable is in the same boat.  How about Blanks and Venable to Tampa for Wade Davis? 

Drew Tweedie
3 years 7 months ago

Alonso is considered a 1B going forward by the organization, Guzman may be moved to LF however.

TophersReds
3 years 7 months ago

Why are you Padres fans putting Alonso in left in Petco….It won’t work out for you. You will quickly learn that if that actually happens. He is a 1st baseman. He may have played some left in Cincy, but he was well below average and terrible in Wrigley. He could get to and track the balls in his limited range, but can’t get the balls you expect most Left Fielders to get to. I understand he lost around 20 pounds, but he would still be a below average left fielder in an average sized ballpark.

johnnycomelately9
3 years 7 months ago

They aren’t padre fans Topher.  Padre fans know that the front office see’s Alonso strictly as a 1B and put Blanks in LF and hope Guzman can see some time out there

slider32
3 years 7 months ago

Rizzo will be traded by opening day.

Beersy
3 years 7 months ago

Probably much sooner.  I’m hoping Byrnes has something else cooking right now.

Guest
3 years 7 months ago

and quentin too……this aint nothing but a trade and flip dude….if quentin is on the friars roster opening day i would be a little shocked

3 years 7 months ago

Padres fans can only hope, because he is the Anti-Petco player if there ever was one.

Guest
3 years 7 months ago

i really don’t see where it would make sense for the pads……especially where they could maybe get more than they gave to get him in the first place….there are a couple teams desperate for a right handed bat….

3 years 7 months ago

You do know that many teams put terrible defensive players in LF quite regularly, dont you?

stewie75
3 years 7 months ago

alonso couldn’t even play the outfield in tiny cinci, i doubt they’re even considering throwing him out there in spacious petco.

MikhelB
3 years 7 months ago

It is not spacious by any means, in fact it looks tiny in comparison to LA, Colorado and Arizona, it is the wind the principal cause there are less homeruns in that park (almost every homerun I’ve seen there have been lines, except for Adrián’s bombs). The park is so close to the sea (not like at SF but still it is close), that wind gusts play tricks with the ball LOL.

And if Quentin can hit well towards LF he can have a good season because that is the most productive outfield in PetCo from what I’ve seen, with not too much homeruns towards RF (Adrián quickly adjusted to it and changed his approach, Tejada couldn’t and tried to hit bombs instead of lines and sucked, same for O-Dog).

3 years 7 months ago

And Alonso is a much better fielder than Quentin.

conniemadagain
3 years 7 months ago

Best triple A line up in MLB!!!

TophersReds
3 years 7 months ago

No, that would be the AAAstros.

conniemadagain
3 years 7 months ago

yeah for 2011 at least …

conniemadagain
3 years 7 months ago

But in SD the Pads are becoming the KC Athletics on 2011 and beyond … They just don’t get the Yankees castoffs they get all the castoffs …

Dan_O62
3 years 7 months ago

No, that would be the AAstros…

MikhelB
3 years 7 months ago

Say hello to the San Diego PAAAdres.

conniemadagain
3 years 7 months ago

Best triple a lineup in MLB … 

agro23
3 years 7 months ago

Go ruin another sport, Connie. I hear the Bolts board calling you.

conniemadagain
3 years 7 months ago

Pay attention and you’ll see me there too … Doing my best to get SD Teams to shell out the coin since they charge major league prices!!!

MikhelB
3 years 7 months ago

a) Headley is hardly a 2nd bat, you’ll probably see him more at 3rd or 5th behind Quentin.

b) Rizzo won’t begin the season with the friars, all signs point to him being a trade chip, and even last year Hoyer was reluctant to even talk about his imminent promotion everytime he went on the radio (which Padres’ GM do daily), so I think they will put him at AAA and wait for his value to increase IF he bats again (he could have a bigger value if he hits at MLB but that’s a bigger IF than him having solid stats again at AAA).

c) Alonzo will be the 1B.

d) I think they will trade Hudson, he was not liked a bit in the clubhouse by the front office nor the fans.

YODA777
3 years 7 months ago

Chase Headley is most certainly a number two hole hitter on most clubs.

3 years 7 months ago

Headley hit .330 with good power on the road. He is a #3 hitter on most other clubs.

Yankees420
3 years 7 months ago

A .465 SLG and .135 ISO aren’t what most look for in a #3 hitter, although the .399 OBP is nice.

GasLampGuru
3 years 7 months ago

The Padres have repeatedly said they view Alonso strictly as a 1B, so there is virtually no chance he will see time in LF.  When you couple that with Byrnes & Co’s apparent feeling that Rizzo’s swing will not allow him to hit in the majors, and you have the formula for the Padres trading Rizzo to either the Cubs or Rays before the start of ST.  I would be shocked if Rizzo is still in the Padres system when ST opens up.

I don’t think the Padres are done yet.  I believe they are sold on Guzman in the everyday lineup, but likely not in the outfield.  I also think a move like this probably opens the door for them to trade Headley since he will never have more value than he does now.

My guess is the opening day lineup looks like this:

1.  Maybin      CF
2.  Venable     RF  (platooning with Denorfia)
3.  Alonso      1B
4.  Quentin     LF
5.  Guzman    3B
6.  Hudson     2B
7.  Hundley    C
8.  Bartlett     SS

I don’t see the Padres trading Venable for a couple reasons.  First, they’ll need his speed and defense in RF with Quentin in LF.  Second, I don’t think he has much value to teams outside the Padres (at 29 he’s not a prospect anymore).  And I still think his speed can help us atop the order, even if he’ll probably never be more than a .250 hitter.

I think there are still several roster moves to come, likely involving Headley, Blanks, and Rizzo.  These are educated guesses, but here are some hunches on what those moves will be:

Rizzo to Tampa for Wade Davis (I’ve heard this repeatedly)
Headley to Cubs or Phillies (for prospect package including SP and either middle infield or OF)
Blanks to AL team (Rangers make sense as platoon mate for Moreland)

All I know is, I’m very happy the team is finally committed to bringing in some offense.

Cankersly
3 years 7 months ago

Guzman at 3B? Are you insane man? The guy was hard to watch play 1B, I definitely don’t want to see him attempt to play third.

GasLampGuru
3 years 7 months ago

I didn’t say I was comfortable with it, I said I thought the Padres were.  Not saying they think he’s a Gold Glover, but 3B is his ‘natural’ position, and I do think the team would be comfortable with him there as a stop gap until one of Darnell, Gyorko, or Forsythe is deemed ‘ready’.  But I think this only happens if they find a team willing to give up something of substance for Chase Headley this offseason.

Even with the changes the Padres have made, they still are not contenders.  They are very much in transition and based on production and cost, it’s safe to assume Headley does not figure into their longterm plans.  Couple that with the feeling many teams appear to have that Chase would be much more productive in another setting, and you have a scenario that might convince the Padres to trade him.

It would not shock me in the least to see Chase traded for help in other areas (SP, OF, 2B, SS). But I don’t think the Padres will trade him to dump him, I think they’ll need a substantive return that helps them now and for the next five years.

3 years 7 months ago

Rizzo was the number one ranked 1B prospect in baseball for 2011 and will likely be number one again for 2012.

If Byrnes doesnt think he can hit in ML then he is an idiot. Rizzo is extremely young and had a cup of coffee while being asked to take over for one of the best 1B in Padres history. Give him the shot to hit and he will get it done.

Alonso is no better of a hitting prospect than Rizzo and people anointing him as the starting 1B after his cup of coffee with the Reds is asinine.

3 years 7 months ago

Almost as asinine as you calling simon castro ‘lights out’ for the last 2 months last year.

3 years 7 months ago

No way do they trade for Quentin so they can deal Headley and move Guzman to 3B.  That makes absolute no sense.

redsx968
3 years 7 months ago

I think that Padres could swing a decent deal right now for Rizzo. I just feel like Rizzo’s gonna have a tough time in San Diego and now’s the time to deal him while he still has value. Just a hunch though I guess. 

I think it’s safe to say Quentin is never going to amount to what people thought he would now though

3 years 7 months ago

If every baseball was hit up the middle this would be an amazing defense..

3 years 7 months ago

Quentin is going to play LF for Padres.

3 years 7 months ago

well that came out of nowhere

3 years 7 months ago

Agreed

SouthPawRyno
3 years 7 months ago

I feel I heard this was going to happen a while ago, but of course it may have been one of my crazy dreams.

slidingintobase
3 years 7 months ago

This deal was rumored for a while.

3 years 7 months ago

i dont like this trade

BVHjays
3 years 7 months ago

Simon Castro.

Yet another cautionary tale about prospects, especially pitching prospects.

Casor_Greener
3 years 7 months ago

Yet if anyone but Kenny Williams made his trade people would be saying Castro was a great talent that just needed change of scenery

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

yeah, Castro might turn things around but you don’t trade Quentin to get a refurbished prospect.

Casor_Greener
3 years 7 months ago

Quentin is nothing special, especially at 7 million

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

Quentin is nothing special at $7 mil but Dunn and Rios are for what they are set to earn in 2012? Obviously more was expected from either so no need to retaliate.

Quentin was second in hrs and OBP last year and he had a .OPS of about .830. Bottom line is they sold low on him regardless of how much you dislike him. 

Do you really think Quentin isn’t worth anymore than 2 non top 10 prospects from the Pads system? 

I simply can’t imagine the Giants or Braves could not have offered a better value w/o overpaying for him. If Quentin is worth .50 on the $1.00 then the Pads just paid .25 to get him.

Casor_Greener
3 years 7 months ago

With those terrible contracts you mentioned, saving $7M is huge. Whether or not they could’ve gotten more we wil never know, but I highly doubt they took the first and worst offer.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

You mean like they did for Swisher? Yeah he’s never sold low on a player before.

Brv Rocks
3 years 7 months ago

As a Braves fan I agree.  They easily could have topped that paltry offer and Quentin would have given the Braves what they desperately need, a right handed hitter.  Unfortunately, Liberty Media is too cheap to pay the 7.5M he is owed next season.

3 years 7 months ago

Quentin played average of just 105 games in field over past 4 seasons.

Had a below average BA in a hitters park (.257 vs .261 for visiting batters).

Had THE very worst UZR, UZR/150 and DRS of any OF in the game over past 3 seasons.

Injury prone, below average hitter for average, streaky, and expensive for a team that has a low payroll. Oh, and he is a FA at end of season.

For Castro, who instantly becomes a to 5 prospect in White Sox system and probable starter in Sox rotation before end of 2012 AND a reliever who likely makes the team out of camp per KW.

Pretty good trade for White Sox. Terrible trade for SD.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

I really don’t understand why the Pads want Quentin more because their park will limit him some offensively and he has to play the field. Add to the fact that he is somewhat costly and they aren’t going to contend in 2012. 

That being said, you are very optimistic about Castro w/o acknowledging his question marks. To say he’s going to be a top 5 for the Sox doesn’t mean anything without considering other mitigating factors. A) the strength of the Sox system B) the value of Quentin.

MB923
3 years 7 months ago

I think you’re really overrating Quentin

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

Valuing him more than two non top 10 prospects in a non top 10 system? Yes.

EDIT: DIDN’T MEAN THE “NON-TOP 10 SYSTEM”

MB923
3 years 7 months ago

1 -He’s not cheap
2- He can’t stay healthy
3- He is a poor fielder (UZR supposedly they say should not be used on 1 season)
4 – Leaving a team that plays in a hitters park and poor pitching division to a team in a pitchers park that is an excellent pitchers division
5- Padres are in the top 10 farm systems in the league, the White Sox are in the bottom 5.

I expect nothing more than .240/15 homers from Quentin in SD. 

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

Nice of you to point out the negatives but none of the positives. 

As for this…”I expect nothing more than .240/15 homers from Quentin in SD”. You are devaluing the return based on the dynamics of SD and Petco. I am saying they could’ve traded him elsewhere where his numbers would be better because it’s not such a pitcher friendly park.

You should never trade an asset with the thoughts of how the acquiring team will do with them. You trade according to what their actual value is.

You don’t trade AJ Burnett according to how much better he would be in a pitcher friendly park. You trade according to what his value is now. 

MB923
3 years 7 months ago

The only positives for him his is power which is very good but will go down in San Diego without question.

3 years 7 months ago

Quentin’s power will regress by somewhere around 35%.

That’s the difference between park factors for HR in NL West and those in AL Central.

jwsox
3 years 7 months ago

You keep talking about his value as if it’s supposed to be high. He didn’t have a great year at the plate not bad but not great and he had a serious shoulder injury at the end of the season his value was pretty low

Khabibulan
3 years 7 months ago

Yeah, I like TCQ, but he’s very frustrating and can’t give you a full season. Solid arm, but zero speed. I project .260/ 20HR though.
KW is really gathering some dicey prospects. 

Mario Saavedra
3 years 7 months ago

petco isn’t that bad for right handed power hitters. it murders left handed ones, though.

3 years 7 months ago

Castro is a top 5 prospect for White Sox as of now.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

Valuing him more than two non top 10 prospects in a non top 10 system? Yes.

EDIT: DIDN’T MEAN THE “NON-TOP 10 SYSTEM”

WillieWildkat
3 years 7 months ago

Refurbished? I don’t understand, if he gets refurbished like #1 flops Gavin Floyd and Phil Humber, then what’s the complaint? I suppose things could be worse: you could trot Sweaty Freddie or Bartolo Colon out there as your #3. Or overpay for AJ Burnett while unloading “refurbished prospect’ Ian Kennedy. 

Triple Hawpes Brewed
3 years 7 months ago

White Sox got shafted

WillieWildkat
3 years 7 months ago

um ok, case closed i suppose

DT Flush234
3 years 7 months ago

Good Move by the Padres still they are going to be terrible next season.

Shawnthemon
3 years 7 months ago

Good move, but if they want to contend, they need pitching.

3 years 7 months ago

Padres are nowhere close to contending

Demaroth
3 years 7 months ago

I think that was Shawn’s point.

Shawnthemon
3 years 7 months ago

Thank you for stating the obvious.

0bsessions
3 years 7 months ago

They play in an awful division, there’s no such thing as “nowhere close to contending” in the NL West. The Diamondbacks are clearly the best team in that division, but they don’t have anything remotely approaching a stranglehold on it.

Drew Tweedie
3 years 7 months ago

Thank you. It’s like people already forgot 2010.

slider32
3 years 7 months ago

This division is like a revolving door I would think the Giants have a good chance of winning this year.

0bsessions
3 years 7 months ago

Essentially true, four out of the five teams in that division have made the playoffs over the last five seasons and the Padres have come within a game of making it twice. Sure, they’re a weaker team without Gonzalez, but it’s not that hard to compete in that division.

0bsessions
3 years 7 months ago

Essentially true, four out of the five teams in that division have made the playoffs over the last five seasons and the Padres have come within a game of making it twice. Sure, they’re a weaker team without Gonzalez, but it’s not that hard to compete in that division.

joeybw
3 years 7 months ago

Wade Davis for Anthony Rizzo! I’ll go tell Bud so he can put it through.

SwingtimeInTheRockies
3 years 7 months ago

 Counteroffer:

Wade Davis for a bucket of chicken.

muskyfish
3 years 7 months ago

Hey now, let’s lay off big Wade. Just has some rough edges to work on….. but yeah, not going to land Rizzo without an upside position guy joining Davis in the offer. 

Cankersly
3 years 7 months ago

No thanks. The Padres have 4 guys in the upper minors that project to be as good as Davis or better.

If they do trade Rizzo for pitching I hope it’s for a prospect with Ace potential.

johnnycomelately9
3 years 7 months ago

They have the deepest stock of pitching in baseball, they lack Aces

bravesdude
3 years 7 months ago

I though the Braves did . But I could be wrong .

Cankersly
3 years 7 months ago

I think it’s probably D-Bags > Braves > Padres/Rays.

The Padres do have a wealth of pitching talent in the minors, but maybe only Joe Ross has a chance to be an Ace.

3 years 7 months ago

Keyvius Sampson has a shot too. 

sonofsnake
3 years 7 months ago

Kenny Williams sucks

bjsguess
3 years 7 months ago

Nice Pads.

3 years 7 months ago

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

grownice
3 years 7 months ago

Well this is an underwhelming return.

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
3 years 7 months ago

for an underwhelming player

3 years 7 months ago

So true. Quentin isn’t anything, just a guy.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

guy with a .838 OPS last year.

3 years 7 months ago

In a hitter friendly park. Who is bad at defense. 

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

.988 OPS last year on the road vs a .688 at home. 

It’s the opposite every other year but just to make a point.

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
3 years 7 months ago

He’s a DH playing LF.

johnnycomelately9
3 years 7 months ago

Castro can post an era over 4.5 or be lights out from day 1… I am a true fan of his and think a change of scenery can help.  I don’t know about the new ballpark helping so much; but I watched him in the Texas League playoffs on their way to the championship and he pitched better then than the beginning of last season.  He’s the kind of pitcher that can shut teams completely down.

I think people are low on him because he was the 4th or 5th starter in AA San Antonio at the end of the year (Erlin, Wieland, Kelly), but still he’s a good pitching prospect.  He started the future game in 09 and was arguably the pads #1 prospect at the end of that season.  True he’s now a fringe top 20 but that speaks volumes of the system and trades more so then Castro losing it.

sdsuphilip
3 years 7 months ago

people are down on him because his secondary stuff significantly regressed and kevin goldstein put it he only has 1 plus pitch now, his slider is no where near as good as it was in 2010.

3 years 7 months ago

Castro had a hard time at 22 in AAA in a launching pad in Tucson. He was lights out the last two months of season in San Antonio. His FB was mid 90s, his slider was biting again and his change was decent.

WillieWildkat
3 years 7 months ago

Agree, how suspect are these prospect ratings, that the Yankee fan is babbling about, when a prospect can slip from #1 and starting the future game to 2 yrs later being worthless, especially at a young age? 

johnnycomelately9
3 years 7 months ago

After doing some research I think it might have been the 2010 Futures game.  Something else to think about, Castro got blown up in Tuscon.  His over 10 era their is what led to his horrible season.  He’s a risk but he’s still very young and has stuff.

FS54
3 years 7 months ago

I don’t get it. Padres traded away their ace and definitely don’t seem interested in contending next season so why would you send couple of minor leaguers for one year of Quentin. This trade makes no sense for either team. I am sure White Sox could have something better for Carlos.

Matthew Dolter
3 years 7 months ago

volquez outpitching latos next year is not that far fetched

TophersReds
3 years 7 months ago

It still is pretty far fetched. Nobody in Cincy minds losing Volquez, we were all fed up with him. He was never consistent enough or good enough after his one good year with us. And even if he does do the unlikely and outpitch Latos, you can’t really compare the two. Of course, when going from GABP to Petco your number are going to get much better. If Volquez pitches great, it will likely be because of Petco, which means he still likely would have been a liability to Cincy. I see Volquez having a high 3 to a mid 4 ERA due to the change of scenary, with Latos having a low 3 to mid 3 ERA despite having his home ballpark being GABP (Latos has a better ERA on the road than Petco, which leads to the thought that he isn’t just a product of Petco). Volquez has very good stuff (and so does Latos), but Latos seems to have a better understanding of how to use his stuff at this point in his career.

SwingtimeInTheRockies
3 years 7 months ago

 That sort of depends on what becomes of Mat Latos.  He has the makings of becoming baseball’s Ryan Leaf.  He has all the talent but his makeup concerns are a matter of record.

TophersReds
3 years 7 months ago

So does Volquez. I remember reading an article and it explained how Volquez doesn’t seem to take things as seriously as he should be. He isn’t the brightest crayon in the box. Last year, after a game where he gave up like 5 runs he told the media that the hitters it to pick up his slack basically. I understand Latos has his own maturity issues, but it seems that he has gotten a lot better in interacting with the fans and keeping his cool on the mound starting sometime during 2010. The change of scenary could help both of these guys get their head on straight and understand playing baseball for a living is a privilege.

3 years 7 months ago

Its completely far fetched. Latos is a true ace and one of bet pitchers in baseball. Top 10 certainly. Volquez is a number 4-5 on Padres current staff.

johnnycomelately9
3 years 7 months ago

Pads rotation after Latos trade:
Stauffer
Volquez
Richard
Luebke
Moseley

Keep in mind that all listed prospects below are viewed better than Richard and Moseley and the two prospects traded.  All have a 2012 or 2013 eta so the pads will probably try to move 1 or more of Stauffer, Volquez, Richard, and Moseley at or before the deadline.  I think Bass starts as LR unless Richard or Moseley isn’t ready.  He was lights out last Sept.

Bass, Erlin, Wieland, Kelly, and Ormas.  

Beersy
3 years 7 months ago

No #1’s, but the Padres are stacked with SP.  Luebke really impressed me last season and should be even better with his second go around.  Moseley would have been dealt last year if not for the shoulder injury, but I would like for the Padres to keep Richard around because he could teach the youngsters a little mound presence.

3 years 7 months ago

Put Volquez in the 4 or 5 slot and you are closer to correct.

Antonio Nicarelli
3 years 7 months ago

You said it yourself – they are only getting CQ for one year, so you were not going to give up much for him.  A couple prospects in Don Cooper’s hands, to help them “find” their “lost” pitches, and it could be a win-win.

Dan_O62
3 years 7 months ago

I agree, if someone can turn around Castro its Cooper. Sometimes we right-off prospects too quickly. Still, I think the Sox could have gotten a little more when ST started…

Beersy
3 years 7 months ago

Darren Balsley is every bit as good a pitching coach as Cooper is.  I don’t think the Padres totally gave up on Castro, they just have an abundence of SPs.  Castro really came on at the end of last year, so him being a decent pitcher for the ChiSox wouldn’t surprise me.

Dan_O62
3 years 7 months ago

No knock on Baisley intended. World Series rings are highly overrated.

Beersy
3 years 7 months ago

Nice sarcasm. You did mean to put World Series ring right? Unless the White Sox snuck another one in when I wasn’t watching.

3 years 7 months ago

Balsley is nowhere near the pitching coach Coop is.

Beersy
3 years 7 months ago

I respectfully disagree. Balsley has done more with nothing than any other pitching coach out there.

Antonio Nicarelli
3 years 7 months ago

Just one example, but Clayton Richard had less BB/9 under Cooper than Balsley.  His FIP was about the same, but xFIP nearly half a point lower with Cooper.

Antonio Nicarelli
3 years 7 months ago

You said it yourself – they are only getting CQ for one year, so you were not going to give up much for him.  A couple prospects in Don Cooper’s hands, to help them “find” their “lost” pitches, and it could be a win-win.

Alldaybaseball
3 years 7 months ago

As a Braves fan smh we could have topped that easily…….

TophersReds
3 years 7 months ago

As could my team along with many others. It doesn’t make sense for the Pads or White Sox…White Sox didn’t get much and the Pads don’t seem to be looking to compete in 2012…

johnnycomelately9
3 years 7 months ago

They’ll get two picks when he walks and Jaff Decker will be ready.

bravesdude
3 years 7 months ago

I’d be interested in finding out if Wren even made an offer . Quentin was one of those linked to the Braves . I’d almost be a little dissapointed to find out that he didn’t considering the Padres got him for basically nothing .

Brv Rocks
3 years 7 months ago

Sadly, he makes too much money for the Braves.

bravesdude
3 years 7 months ago

Maybe considering his history of injuries . But he would have still been THAT LF thumper that Wren was looking for and it wouldn’t have taken much to get him . You throw Diaz’s 2M in with a prospect or two (that we don’t need) and then finalize a trade with Jurrjens somewherewith his 5M+ this year and Quentin fits right in with the budget we have .

Brv Rocks
3 years 7 months ago

I don’t really get it either.  It seems that the only players that Liberty Media can afford are those making 2M or less. 

bravesdude
3 years 7 months ago

Maybe considering his history of injuries . But he would have still been THAT LF thumper that Wren was looking for and it wouldn’t have taken much to get him . You throw Diaz’s 2M in with a prospect or two (that we don’t need) and then finalize a trade with Jurrjens somewherewith his 5M+ this year and Quentin fits right in with the budget we have .

Lunchbox45
3 years 7 months ago

I’m confused by the direction the Padres are going in… trade your best young pitcher, but then trade prospects for Quentin.?

Drew Tweedie
3 years 7 months ago

Ownership has some money lying around for next season, and want to improve the team on a one-year deal. Castro was one of the top prospects a year or two ago, but has been overshadowed with recent acquisitions and took a big step back developmentally this year (no idea on Hernandez unfortunately, but I assume similar circumstances).

The only drawback I see is the outfield is ridiculously crowded with Blanks/Guzman (possibly) in left and Venable/Denorfia in right, not to mention Kotsay or Hermida (minor league deal I think). Guess more trades might be on the way.

johnnycomelately9
3 years 7 months ago

Please just dump Hermida… maybe end the Venable era

Drew Tweedie
3 years 7 months ago

Venable is still useful, but I feel like the leash is tightening on him. No idea on Hermida.

myk13
3 years 7 months ago

and then trade Quintin at the deadline if you’re out of it and get more prospects

FS54
3 years 7 months ago

one year gets you two non-top ten prospects, what will 2-3 months of same guy gets you?

Matthew Mueller
3 years 7 months ago

Beltran netted Wheeler at the deadline.  If he’s the best OF on the market, someone will go after him.

3 years 7 months ago

Depends on the market at the deadline, but probably about the same if CQ is at all decent.  Someone’s going to want an upgrade in LF

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

The fact that KW sold low on him doesn’t mean that’s the best they could’ve gotten and in no way effects the value of Quentin on a future trade. However, SD does seem like a less likely place for him to build value. Still of he’s OPS around .820’s or better by the deadline they should at least be able to get a prospect who’s value is greater or equal to what they gave up, which is not hard to do since neither prospect was highly regarded as of late.

slider32
3 years 7 months ago

Qwentin helps their young offense, and he’s from SD. It’s a similar move to signing Harrang last year.

soxfan123123
3 years 7 months ago

way to spell quentin’s name right

drcreps
3 years 7 months ago

It’s the SD way!

AFCFAN06
3 years 7 months ago

Yea as a braves fan I would have took him for that figured CHW could get more for him than that.

slider32
3 years 7 months ago

Maybe the Padres trade him to the Braves for one good prospect.

Brv Rocks
3 years 7 months ago

It’s possible but the Padres would need to kick in dollars, unless they are taking back a contract like that of Matt Diaz.

blueandwhite89
3 years 7 months ago

The White Sox really make me wonder sometimes…

Good move for the Padres. They still need more bats though to compete. Maybe they get one by trading Rizzo (or playing him and hoping he breaks out).

WillieWildkat
3 years 7 months ago

How’s the Mark Teahen rental working for you guys?

blueandwhite89
3 years 7 months ago

How is Rios working out for you?

swatrob
3 years 7 months ago

Thats a great movie by the Pads

Hannibal_Lester
3 years 7 months ago

a movie you say? I bet samuel jackson’s in it. that guy’s in everything.

swatrob
3 years 7 months ago

Love the family guy quote, great response to my typo.

Dan_O62
3 years 7 months ago

Head scratcher. Money saved is why CWSox shipped Quentin, but the visual return is embarrassing. And the Pads? If they hasn’t dealt Latos they could be in contention in 2012, but… That being said, the haul they got from the Reds was pretty good – for a run in 2014, many DL stints and a new contract (or 2) for Quentin.

johnnycomelately9
3 years 7 months ago

They’re setting up for a decade plus run.  Smart move by pads looking past 2012 while building a better team.

Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 7 months ago

Steal. Kenny Williams sucks at trades.

jwsox
3 years 7 months ago

Steal for a guy who is on the dl every year, has played his entire career in a weak pitching division with exception of verlander and in a serious hitters park. Moving to a division stocked with great pitching and a pitchers park. I would say an even deal. Two decent prospects not great but not horrible and money saved for the sox possibly to
Make a run at cepedes and the padres get a decent power hitter who when he is one he is unstoppable but is very inconsistent.