Phillies Notes: Soler, Valdez, Wigginton

Here's the latest from the City Of Brotherly Love…

  • "Industry insiders" consider the Phillies to be a longshot for Jorge Soler, reports Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com.  Though the Phils are known to be one of Soler's top suitors, the team has never been big spenders on the international market and may balk at Soler's price tag.  Salisbury hears from one baseball executive who predicts Soler will end up with the Cubs, who are reportedly ready to offer the 19-year-old Cuban outfielder as much as $27.5MM.
  • The Phillies traded Wilson Valdez to the Reds since GM Ruben Amaro felt his team already had several other utility options in place, reports MLB.com's Todd Zolecki as part of a reader mailbag.  Zolecki says he was personally a little surprised by the Valdez deal.
  • One of those other utility options, Ty Wigginton, is excited to play for a contender, reports Bob Brookover of the Philadelphia Inquirer.  In that piece, Amaro mentioned that Wigginton had been highly regarded by several Phillies scouts over the last few years.
  • David Murphy of the Philadelphia Daily News looks at five key questions surrounding the Phillies as they open Spring Training.


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52 Comments on "Phillies Notes: Soler, Valdez, Wigginton"


Member
$7562574
3 years 4 months ago

ty wig is in for big surprise.

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nm344
3 years 4 months ago

Nah, he’s not.

Guest
3 years 4 months ago

I wish teams didn’t throw away big money at international free agents.

Guest
3 years 4 months ago

Alexei Ramirez is quietly one of the best players in baseball, and most of the Latin players in baseball were international free agents. 

I wish teams wouldn’t throw eight figures at back of the rotation starters.

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ekt8750
3 years 4 months ago

I personally think the Phils land Soler. I’m really tired of hearing “The Phillies historically don’t…” It’s lazy journalism if you ask me. I mean yeah 10 years ago the Phillies were a narrow minded club ran by Ed Wade. That was then and this is now and the Phillies are literally printing money down at Citizen Bank Park and have one of the most out of the box thinking upper managements in the MLB. So I think if they really want Soler, they’ll get him.

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Jason_F
3 years 4 months ago

They literally print money at the US Mint, not Citizen’s Bank Park.

Guest
3 years 4 months ago

Gillick might not dig Soler because of the contract he wants.
He always liked Jayson Werth types find them when their cheap and hope they bloom like he did. Soler is too much of a crap shoot.

I say Gillick because he still advised the Phillies

Guest
3 years 4 months ago

 Its not just Ed Wade, even Ruben barely spends internationally.  The Phillies under Amaro have liked to take the money they spend internationally to sign 3 or 4 players rather than 1 big splash signing.  The $750K they gave Carlos Tocci last year was a franchise record. 

Think about that, the Phillies have never even offered a player $1 million and Soler might end up costing $30 million.That is why journalists see them as unlikely to get him.  Its not lazy, its them doing their due diligence on how Amaro operates.

Guest
3 years 4 months ago

Look at the Phillies draft spending, they usually finish near the bottom of the barrel in that category as well, or at least they have in the past few years.

Guest
3 years 4 months ago

Absolutely right. Now part of that is teams with the Top 5 or 10 picks will often spend more money on that one player alone than teams in the back end of the 1st round spend on entire drafts. 

However, the Phillies usually do a really good job of targeting “tough signs” in the middle to late rounds and it would be nice to see them spend a little bit more to bring more of them into the organization.

I’ll be curious to see how their draft strategy plays out this year with the changes to the draft.

Guest
3 years 4 months ago

Absolutely right. Now part of that is teams with the Top 5 or 10 picks will often spend more money on that one player alone than teams in the back end of the 1st round spend on entire drafts. 

However, the Phillies usually do a really good job of targeting “tough signs” in the middle to late rounds and it would be nice to see them spend a little bit more to bring more of them into the organization.

I’ll be curious to see how their draft strategy plays out this year with the changes to the draft.

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Phillies_Aces35
3 years 4 months ago

The money the Phillies “print” goes to a $180 million dollar payroll. They haven’t spent more than $1 million overseas in years. It’s not lazy journalism… its fact.

Doesn’t mean they won’t land them but history shows they most likely won’t… regardless of the type of money they print. $20 million is a lot to risk on an unproven commodity, which is why the Phillies historically, haven’t spent overseas.

… nothing to do with Ed Wade.

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ekt8750
3 years 4 months ago

 I believe there is some sort of a cap in place now (dunno ho hard or soft it is) to try to at least stave off some of that, but I totally agree. It’s really silly to have to drop like $20 million just to have negotiation rights to some unknown that lights up questionable competition abroad.

Guest
3 years 4 months ago

What are you talking about? Paying for negotiation rights is only with Japanese players and you get the money back if you don’t sign them.

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Phillies_Aces35
3 years 4 months ago

No, for $20 million dollars they are acquiring Soler. Negotiating rights are free.

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aricollins
3 years 4 months ago

Wrong for the reasons people have pointed out, but also because the cap doesn’t take effect until next year.

Guest
3 years 4 months ago

The only thing Valdez brought to the table was versatility and good defense at short. No speed and couldn’t play outfield. Martinez is fast, can play outfield and is also versatile. He sin’t as good defensively at short as Valdez is but if Rollins is out for an extended time, they can call up Galvis, who is just as good defensively as Valdez. So it should be of no surprise that Valdez was dealt. 

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skoods
3 years 4 months ago

Martinez is NOT fast. 

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dylanp5030
3 years 4 months ago

A very slow fast. The exact opposite of Utley…MiniMart’s not that baseball smart when it comes to running bases.

Guest
3 years 4 months ago

Valdez has made 20 errors in his career, 9 of them were made in 2011.  Combine that with his sub-.300 OBP and I have no idea why Valdez was ever loved as much as he was here in Philadelphia.