NL Notes: Tulowitzki, Murphy, De La Rosa, Burnett, Nationals, Marlins, Dodgers

The Rockies are not prepared to deal star shortstop Troy Tulowitzki at present (not least of which because he is on the DL), but the Mets have reached out to indicate that they would be interested if he is marketed, reports Joel Sherman of the New York Post. A National League executive tells Sherman that he thinks the Mets could match up well given their young pitching depth and Colorado’s need for the same. On the other hand, sources tell Sherman that the Cardinals think very highly of the star shortstop and would give up a substantial haul to add him. And of course, Sherman also notes, Tulowitzki would have a wider market given his top-tier abilities.

Here’s more from the National League:

  • Mets second baseman Daniel Murphy has drawn recent trade interest, sources tell Marc Carig of Newsday. It still seems likely that Murphy will remain in New York, however, according to Carig.
  • The Rockies could be willing to listen on current closer LaTroy Hawkins and starter Jorge De La Rosa, reports Thomas Harding of MLB.com. One team that has been connected to De La Rosa is the Orioles, though Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reported earlier today that talks have not progressed given Colorado’s high asking price of top prospect Kevin Gausman. Harding says that the Rockies do have interest in other Baltimore minor leaguers, including lefty Tim Berry, rising prospect Hunter Harvey, and righties Mike Wright and Tyler Wilson.
  • The Pirates‘ interest in Phillies righty A.J. Burnett is “mild at best,” according to Heyman. And that is even before addressing the issue of Burnett’s 2015 player option, which seems likely to rise through escalators to $12.75MM. Neither the Orioles nor the Yankees appear to be interested in Burnett, Heyman adds.
  • There are varying reports coming out of Washington, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports on Twitter. Some clubs have indicated that the Nationals are looking for a second baseman and left-handed reliever. But the Nats themselves have said that they are merely fielding inquiries from teams offering second baggers and would only look to pick up a southpaw pen piece if they can upgrade the team’s current options. Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post, likewise, tweets that an executive of one selling team sees the Nationals as pursuing multiple possibilities, with a particular focus on adding relief pitching.
  • The Marlins are looking to add players that will contribute this year and in the future, Jim Bowden of ESPN.com reports on Twitter. The Fish are not currently shopping their veterans, Bowden adds. In an opinion piece, Rosenthal writes that the club should trade star Giancarlo Stanton sooner rather than later to maximize its return, opining that the team is unlikely to sign him to a long-term deal.
  • The Dodgers have continued to look for additional set-up arms for the bullpen, tweets Bowden, but finding a match is complicated by the fact that three of the most obvious sellers also reside in the NL West. Meanwhile, the club has long been said to be interested in adding a starter. Given the recent struggles of Dan Haren, his spot in the rotation (rather than that of Josh Beckett) could be the one that is turned over, Mark Saxon of ESPNLosAngeles.com reports.


68 Responses to NL Notes: Tulowitzki, Murphy, De La Rosa, Burnett, Nationals, Marlins, Dodgers Leave a Reply

  1. Tony Matias 1 year ago

    Jack Z should just sell the farm for Stanton. He’s going to lose his job anyways. This way, at least, he will have traded for someone worth it.

    • northsfbay 1 year ago

      Stanton is not for trade. All major moves have to be approved by the owners.

  2. OriginalHitman 1 year ago

    I dont believe for one second that the Mets will seriously go after Tulo, much less add his contract to payroll. They wont part with Chris Young because of his contract & they wont eat what’s left on Colon’s contract to trade him to a contender, but they want in on Tulo?

    • Dynasty22 1 year ago

      The Mets won’t release Chris Young because they don’t want to admit they made a wrong decision signing him. That is why many other teams don’t release a guy playing bad who is also making a lot of money.
      Example: Dan Uggla

      Naturally, you don’t want to eat salary in a deal. I’m sure if the right trade proposal came, the Mets would eat some of Colon’s salary.

      The Mets can afford Tulo. He is a top flight player and they have the payroll for it.

    • rct 1 year ago

      I don’t believe it, either, but for different reasons. I don’t think Sandy would offer enough to get him, especially if another team like the Cardinals is in the mix.

      As a fan, it would be great to have Tulo, as he’s a terrific player and his salary is pretty reasonable. His splits, however, are pretty stark. Just going by relative OPS+, his career home number is 116 (away is 84). I’m sure the Mets’ FO would take a long look at that before offering anything, and hopefully they’re not dazzled by Tulo’s small sample of 48 ABs at CitiField, where he’s slashed .438/.534/.833.

      • OriginalHitman 1 year ago

        Considering the fact that the Mets now have the 4th best farm system in MLB, it’s not offering up enough pieces that’s the problem. The real problem is Tulo’s inability to stay healthy.

        • Gland1 1 year ago

          Well it’s not that they don’t have the pieces, it’s whether they would want to part with them. Sandy clearly has been working on developing depth, so the question is how much of that would he be willing to use.

          • OriginalHitman 1 year ago

            Personally, I wouldn’t part with pieces for a guy who cant stay on the field. Mets are knee deep in pitching depth as it is. Instead of calling Colorado, Sandy should be calling up Theo about Baez (who the Mets have been linked to) & Soler, who just got a promotion to AAA. Mets & Cubs match up in terms of need, and the Cubs have a few ML ready guys by next year (Bryant, Russell) in their system, with Alcantara already up. Schwarber should be ready by 2016, so that leaves their need for RF. If Stanton becomes available, Cubs make the most sense in the right return & locking Stanton up.

          • Gland1 1 year ago

            I agree with you, trading for Tulo is risky. As enticing as it would be to get the Coors version of him, between what you’d have to give up, and then what you’d have to pay him, I’d be afraid he’d never be able to stay healthy. If he can’t stay on the field now, what’s going to happen when he gets older?

  3. Dale Pearl 1 year ago

    I am guessing the players are going to start complaining soon because with the new wild card structure it would appear fewer teams are going to be trading players in July.

    • famousmortimer 1 year ago

      Agreed. I sort of hope the new commissioner gets rid of the second wild card and the ridiculous All-Star Game stipulation.

      • Dale Pearl 1 year ago

        I am not sure what the solution is to put everyone on “even” playing ground. I for one like the NFL method more than what the MLB has put together. The Yankees and Dodgers though are not motivated by salary caps. I think there should be a maximum ceiling that once you hit in salary that you start losing draft picks completely and also international signings. Not just a penalty but a complete lock out of the draft until the salary goes back beneath the cap.

        • famousmortimer 1 year ago

          Coming from the UK, where we’re perfectly happy for our national sport to not have a level playing field, I admire US sport’s desire for it while not understanding it all that much.
          But I like your idea.

        • MB923 1 year ago

          “I think there should be a maximum ceiling that once you hit in salary
          that you start losing draft picks completely and also international
          signings”

          As far as International Signings go, there is currently a spending limit for it. If you go over the limit (I don’t know what the # is), you are limited to signing an IFA for $300,000 max not just for next year, but the year after as well.

        • mrnatewalter
          Nathan Walter 1 year ago

          A “maximum ceiling that once you hit in salary…” You mean a salary cap?

          That’s why they have luxury tax. Trust me, it hurts the Dodgers and the Yankees, despite what everyone is led to believe.

          But this myth that a salary cap (no matter how you word it, you said a salary cap) creates a “level playing field” is absurd. 4 of this year’s bottom 6 teams in payroll made the playoffs last year, and one of them is far and away the best team in baseball. Baseball does great with controlling the market by banning free agency until after 6 years, which allows small market teams to pay what they can afford (although I’d argue that Houston has just as much money as many teams up top of the list) and that they put luxury tax penalties on teams that exceed a certain point in salary as well as take away IFA money.

          But this myth is absurd. Baseball doesn’t need a salary cap.

      • Out of place Met fan 1 year ago

        More likely solution is to move the deadline back to Aug 15, when the playoff picture is a bit clearer

      • Ron Loreski 1 year ago

        Adding the second wild card is one of the best changes they could have made to baseball! It creates the game 7 atmosphere with just one game. I was at the Cincinnati vs Pittsburgh Wild Card Game last year and let me tell you, it was the best baseball environment I’ve ever been a part of.

    • TheRealRyan 1 year ago

      Why would the players care? I would imagine the idea that I have to pick up and move somewhere all of sudden, in the middle of a season with zero control of where I am going to be a negative. I guess a few players move to a better team situation, but that usually means more players are moving to a worse team though.

  4. famousmortimer 1 year ago

    I’d be really, really surprised if the Cardinals traded for Tulo, given he’s on the DL, and they’ve got a perfectly decent SS in Peralta. Okay, Tulo would be an upgrade, but the Cardinals have much more pressing concerns. Unless they’re trading Peralta to get a good arm?

    • Dale Pearl 1 year ago

      A team cannot trade a player on the DL. It is in the CBA I believe

      • Sky14 1 year ago

        It is not, injured players can be traded.

        • WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey 1 year ago

          You can’t do it on PlayStation so you cant do it in the MLB!

    • jaybuck 1 year ago

      Not to mention the fact that Tulo away from Coors…..not so hot. He isn’t worth the price the Rockies would want for the Cardinals to acquire him. Also name me a season he hasn’t spent significant time on the DL.

      • Sky14 1 year ago

        This is Tulo’s slash line over the past three years away from Coors .289/.359/.514/.873. It is more myth than fact that Tulo is a product of Coors.

        • jaybuck 1 year ago

          what I am saying is are the Rockies willing to accept a return in a trade that would yield something more indicative of that slash line or is it his entirevproduction including coors field? I assume they’d be marketing him as a 300 + hitter with 20 to 25 home run potential and the ability to drive in nearly a hundred runs a year. Which to that I say is a stretch.

          • Sky14 1 year ago

            That’s completely fair. His numbers this season are higher than previous years as well and if i’m the cards I wouldn’t want to buy high either. He can still hit for solid average and good pop for an SS with solid defense. Just had to set the record straight that he is not bad away it’s just relative to his home numbers that it seems that way.

        • Douglas Bath 1 year ago

          nobody is saying he isn’t a very good player. but he certainly feasts on playing in the best hitting park in baseball. An .873 OPS over the last 3 seasons would be 16th best in baseball. Very good, particularly for a good fielding shortstop. But when you put him in Coors he’s Mike Trout level stuff.

          • Sky14 1 year ago

            He’s above Trout at home. That’s completely unsustainable and would not argue he would hit that anywhere else, that’s ridiculous. Just wanted to point out while he’s not as good away from Coors, he’s not as bad as implied by the original post.

        • rct 1 year ago

          I don’t know why you’re only using his last three years here, especially since in one of them, he only played 47 games and this season is only 2/3 complete.

          His career splits:
          Home -.323/.397/.565/.962
          Away – .274/.349/.469/.818

          Still good numbers away, but it’s a decent enough contrast to make some teams pause. You have to think about whether you’d be a better overall team. For the Cards, it’d mean his upgrade over Peralta vs. whatever you’d have to give up. imo, it wouldn’t make much sense for St Louis unless Peralta was in the deal.

          fwiw, Tulo has been worth 1.7 fWAR and 1.6 rWAR more than Peralta this season.

          • Sky14 1 year ago

            Because it is more relevant. You wouldn’t use data that isn’t representative of the current player, like Jose Bautista’s time with the Pirates as an indicator of current production. Recent history shows he is one of the top hitters in the league regardless of where he is playing. His career numbers will be deflated because early in his career he did have a slight issue outside of Coors ( though obviously good numbers relative to other players). Over the past few years the number clearly indicate a change.

            As for whether it is worth it for the Cards to acquire him that’s a different argument than Tulo struggles in the road. The original poster declared his struggles on the road a fact, despite a complete lack of evidence.

          • rct 1 year ago

            But it’s not more relevant. He’s not like Bautista at all. He’s been great for at least the last 6 years. You chose a season where he played 47 games, a full season, and this season (91 games). It’s cherry-picking.

            And Tulo’s relative struggles on the road are a reality. His home slash line for this season is .417/.497/.748. His away slash line is .257/.364/.447. That is a huge difference.

          • Sky14 1 year ago

            Ha, the Bautista thing was just an example of using data that is no longer representative of the player. Not to be taken as a literal comparison. He clearly has improved since his first few seasons so why include that data? Midaswell use his tball numbers as a point of concern. That’s a joke btw. I was highlighting a recent trend which is more useful than the overall because of changes to the data points. The 47 games bit is irrelevant because my sample included over 600 at-bats, didn’t make sense to remove it.

          • Douglas Bath 1 year ago

            then why not use the most current data? like… 2014:
            home = .417/.497/748
            away = .257/.364/.447

          • Sky14 1 year ago

            Half of a half season of data…. Take a guess why I didn’t.

          • Douglas Bath 12 months ago

            because it doesn’t support your argument so you decided to cherry pick results only back as far as they would support your argument.

    • SAINTLOUISINNYC 1 year ago

      Cardinals wouldn’t have that many concerns of Matheny was using them correctly … If they could get tulo for maybe miller Wong Craig next year free draft pick they should do it. That’s a generous offer for a injury prone guy but cardinals need a bat in that lineup that’s consistent

  5. Phishfan52 1 year ago

    The Orioles are not trading for a starter so anytime I see their name mentioned for a starter I know not to put any trust into that reporting. They are looking for a catcher and a bullpen arm.

  6. mstrchef13 1 year ago

    There is no chance that the O’s will trade Gausman for De La Rosa.

    • Bleed_Orange 1 year ago

      I don’t want to trade anyone for De La Rosa… he’s just as good as what we have already. Why give up prospects for what we can produce in house?

    • Charles 1 year ago

      Duquette would be insane to trade any of those pitchers for De La Rosa. I don’t see him as an upgrade to anyone the O’s already have on their staff.

  7. TheHernandezInput 1 year ago

    Ok… opinions…

    Trade (sorry to say this but…) BJ Upton for Colorado Rockies
    Carlos Gonzales. CarGo is owed $6+mil over BJ for the rest of his contract
    until 2017, but he has the bat and the glove to fit perfectly as a Brave.
    Shoot, throw-in a minor leaguer! Braves will still have a solid outfield and a better lineup.

    I know I am going to get killed here!! LOL

    • Ron Loreski 1 year ago

      I know they legalized pot in Colorado, but I don’t think the Rockies are “mile high” enough to make that deal.

    • There aren’t any opinions here. You make a ridiculous proposal that you don’t defend at all so why bother?

    • vtadave 1 year ago

      Looks good. Don’t kill ME here, but the Dodgers should deal Andre Ethier for Mike Trout. Trout would upgrade CF and fit pretty well in the llineup. The Angels save money and get a guy who hits left-handed.

      • meep 1 year ago

        Angels would want Pederson and or seager and dodgers wouldn’t do it. However maybe trout the player that makes them trade top prospects

        • Gland1 1 year ago

          The Dodgers wouldn’t give up Pederson and/or Seager for Trout?

        • Frittoman626 1 year ago

          Angels wouldn’t trade him for Pederson, Seager, and Urias. Trout is a Mantle/Mays type player who is still very young and hasn’t reached his prime yet. Only way the Dodgers get Trout would be for Kershaw. Also you’re crazy if you don’t think the Dodgers wouldn’t do that deal, Trout is a once in a generation type player, like Kershaw. Dodgers wouldn’t even let the Angels finish their sentence and accept the deal.

    • WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey 1 year ago

      Wren couldn’t even propose that without laughing.

      • Bleed_Orange 1 year ago

        With the Astros leaks apparently they do propose trades like that all the time (through I’m sure they know there isn’t a snowballs chance in hell that it will happen)

    • mrnatewalter
      Nathan Walter 1 year ago

      Under what condition were you that you to believe this was even a remotely smart trade idea? Did you mean Justin Upton?

  8. Rabbitov 1 year ago

    De la Rosa for Gausman or Harvey? Pass

  9. SinHalo27 1 year ago

    Murphy will not be dealt. That would set the franchise back another year or two on top of the 4 or 5 years not signing Reyes set them back, and relax… there will not be a blockbuster game-changing deal that will make dealing Murphy worth it.

    • OriginalHitman 1 year ago

      Herrera?

      • SinHalo27 1 year ago

        Looks darn good in a mere 31 AA games. Seems he has run into some increased pop as well. Wouldn’t be surprised if he starts 2015 in AA & if he continues to rake then a bump to Vegas & possible cup of coffee late 2015. Just started playing him a bit at SS last year but not so much this year. I’m guessing the reports about his arm not being strong enough for SS are true- no sweat though.

        • OriginalHitman 1 year ago

          No way Herrera starts in AA in 2015 if he keeps this up for another month. Most likely, he’ll end the year either in Vegas, or promoted as a September callup just to get a small taste of the big leagues before starting in Vegas next season. Add Flores to the mix (if Collins ever lets him get playing time) and it doesn’t look good for Murph.

  10. SAINTLOUISINNYC 1 year ago

    Mets better worry about getting some pitching prospects help coz tulo/gonzo won’t save them

    • OriginalHitman 1 year ago

      They’re knee deep in pitching prospects. What are you talking about?

      • SAINTLOUISINNYC 1 year ago

        Plz they not even .500 team… They need to keep em

        • OriginalHitman 1 year ago

          That’s Collins doing of why they’re not at .500. Please try again.

    • orangeoctober 1 year ago

      Mets have a pretty stacked farm system as far as pitchers go, really. One of the top farm systems in the bigs right now.

  11. meep 1 year ago

    Just a idea bring up Chris reed former bullpen stand out in college for the bullpen for the season to give him work in the majors. He a decent starter but dodgers need bullpen help and he could be a nice option

  12. orangeoctober 1 year ago

    lol there’s no way in hell the Rockies get Kevin Gausman or Hunter Harvey for Jorge De La Rosa. Like lets be realistic here.

  13. OriginalHitman 1 year ago

    To update this post, apparently the Rockies are very interested in Syndergaard, Matz, Nimmo and Herrera.

    • calamityfrancis 1 year ago

      even for tulo, the mets wouldn’t give up that much.

      • OriginalHitman 1 year ago

        Not for someone as injury prone as Tulo at least.

      • OriginalHitman 1 year ago

        Not for someone as injury prone as Tulo at least.

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