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Who's Retiring?

By Tim Dierkes [September 15, 2007 at 10:43am CST]

We've seen many stories in the last few days where players stated when they planned on retiring. Let's review.

Gary Sheffield will be done after his upcoming two-year deal. That'll take him through the 2009 season and age 40. Sheff believes his shoulder will hold up that long, but I'm skeptical.

Here's an option we didn't discuss: Moises Alou. He says he'll retire if the Mets don't pick up his $7.5MM option for '08. Playoff heroics could encourage them to do so; Alou can still mash when he's out there. 2008 will be Alou's age 41 season.

Rudy Seanez has had a good year for the Dodgers and wants to play in '08 as a 39 year-old. He'll stick with the West Coast, probably the Dodgers or Padres again.

Reggie Sanders could be Seanez's teammate next year. If he plays, it'll have to be for a winning West Coast team. The Kansas City Star also mentions that the Royals were set to receive Melky Cabrera for Sanders last year before Sanders got hurt. Is that true? Wow.

As we've written, Omar Vizquel wants to come back to the Giants next year.

Cliff Floyd's a 34 year-old in a 40 year-old's body. He'll probably retire if and when the Cubs win the World Series this year. In the unlikely event the Cubs don't win it all, they'd be Floyd's first choice for '08. Otherwise he might consider a guaranteed deal to play in the AL (DH would make sense). Family concerns might cause him to retire regardless though.

Mike Piazza wants to return for his age 39 season. No hard feelings if the A's don't want him back. The NL is up for consideration if he's physically able to play catcher.

We covered the Tom Glavine options here.

We've also talked about Andy Pettitte's plan: Yankees or retirement in '08.

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hmmm. the team tied for the 12th best record in baseball who play in the worst division in baseball are the odds on favorite to win the world series? Good insight, and people call you a homer? Get out of here. I guess now that since the Cards did it last years every barely .500 team thinks they have a shot. Maybe next year the Pirates can win the golden ticket (NL Central) to the playoffs.

Posted by: spieldogg | September 15, 2007 at 11:03 AM

Never heard of sarcasm, Spieldogg?

Posted by: corsari | September 15, 2007 at 11:08 AM

haha...I thought it was layed on pretty thick.

Posted by: Mr_Punch | September 15, 2007 at 11:37 AM

Cmon dude, you didn't realize I was joking? Jeez.

Posted by: Tim Dierkes | September 15, 2007 at 12:04 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke

Posted by: CubsAddictMG | September 15, 2007 at 12:56 PM

I knew it was tongue in cheek. But the way the Cubs have been talked about all year on this site I'm no so sure others may get the real joke in it. I remember saying in March that the Cubs were going to be an 82-80 team and all you Cubies got a good laugh out of that too. But it wasn't as big of a laugh as others have gotten from the Rich Hill will break out and be a top 10 pitcher in baseball statement that was made here, lol.

Posted by: spieldogg | September 15, 2007 at 02:11 PM

It makes sense; the Cubs ARE a joke.

Posted by: MO Boiler | September 15, 2007 at 03:20 PM

You seem to have some weird complex. And what's a Cubie?

Hill has been right around where expected, top 20 in the league.

Also...you really seemed to not get the joke based on your comment.

Posted by: Tim Dierkes | September 15, 2007 at 04:08 PM

Hill
K's 14th in MLB, 5th in NL
WHIP 15th in MLB, 7th in NL
ERA 38th in MLB, 15th in NL

Wins have killed him, but that's due to terrible run support. Impossible to predict.

So for fantasy purposes, he hasn't disappointed for a 12th or later round draft pick, which was the point that was made before the season. Also, if you remember, Tim showed us where other big name stat-heads (non-cub fans) had predicted big things from Hill. A lot better than the crap 4th starter you predicted him to be even though he's going to reach your predictions of 30 HR. You also predicted 450 K's between Lee/Sori/Floyd, see how these things get away from us? Logical prediction if you add up the numbers, but stuff happens & it all goes to hell.

They're on pace to be a little better than the 82-80 team you predicted, which you said was very generous & we were homers for asking for anything more, and that's with Lee/Ramirez/Zambrano all underperforming.

You hate the Cubs, we get it, but it was a joke. Get off the juice & relax.

Posted by: pinetarhand | September 15, 2007 at 09:25 PM

It is interesting how people reacted about the cubs in the offseason. Although they were much improved, there was hype around here like they were the best team in baseball. I didnt think they would make the playoffs, but I also didnt expect the Cards to have so many injuries and the Astros and Reds to be so bad. I had the cubs at about 83 wins, but in like 3rd place in a tight division, possibly winning like 79 and dropping to 4th or 5th. The guy to watch out for now is Cliff Floyd I think, because he looks like he is heating up and starting to hit the long ball. He could be that big lefty bat come playoff time and get hot and hit lots of bombs, especially at Wrigley, not to mention get Aram fastballs to hit which is trouble. That guy is so streaky. If he stays healthy and hits like this down the stretch, I think that could give the Cubs the edge to reach the world series. He is the kinda guy who can get hot and drive in 10 runs in 3 or 4 games, and if Lee and Aram are infront of him and getting on then watch out. I was recently in Arizona and went to watch the Cubs play the D backs and got to speak with Mark Grace, he told me the only time he was ever scared playing first base was when Cliff Floyd would come up because no lefty could turn on a ball like Cliff could. Watch out for those cubbies.

Posted by: nrmax88 | September 16, 2007 at 03:24 AM

Given that Mark Grace was talking about te Cliff Floyd of like 6 years ago, but still I thought it was interesting to hear it coming from him.

Posted by: nrmax88 | September 16, 2007 at 03:26 AM

speil....you are an idiot. Who gets mad about a joke...even when they say they got the joke?? Its Tims freakin site....and you are gonna tell him to get outta here for joking? Wow....

And for the record, Hill has pretty much been every bit as good as expected. Look behind stats like wins for some that really matter.

Posted by: Aduncaroo | September 17, 2007 at 09:31 AM

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