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By Tim Dierkes [November 15, 2007 at 12:21pm CST]
Buster Olney's blog today had some good rumors to digest.
- Olney writes that the Dodgers are making a "heavy play" for Aaron Rowand. Apparently they love the idea of adding a good character guy to the clubhouse. They'd be paying $25MM for Rowand and Juan Pierre in their outfield for the next several years.
- The Phillies are making a "big play" for Mike Lowell. This certainly doesn't jive with the speculation that the Phils only have $10MM to spend and it's going toward pitching. By the way, Ruben Amaro Jr. ruled out the possibility of signing Torii Hunter.
- Olney has an exec source who believes Hunter will sign with the Rangers for six years and $90MM.
- Olney doesn't see Kenny Rogers apologizing to the Rangers anytime soon.
- Mike Cameron has a better chance of re-signing with the Padres, now that his 2008 season will be reduced by 15% in playing time.
- Six teams are in on Matt Clement, but he's still expected to land in San Diego. The Royals are probably one of the six.
- Speculation is growing that the Braves might consider bringing Andruw Jones back.
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"Speculation is growing that the Braves might consider bringing Andruw Jones back."
Please God, let it be a 1-year contract.
Posted by: Land-Man | November 15, 2007 at 12:24 PM
Is it me, or have the Dodgers been connected to every big-name free agent and trade option on the market?
Posted by: metafrantic | November 15, 2007 at 12:28 PM
Haven't seen them connected to Silva.
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | November 15, 2007 at 12:30 PM
rumor is the Phils would heavily backload the Lowell contract. because that's worked out so well with Burrell, I guess.
Posted by: ae | November 15, 2007 at 12:32 PM
I spent a lot of time in my slow-pitch league running into fences, but I don't think anyone automatically considers me a "character guy".
Posted by: worldcupfever | November 15, 2007 at 12:33 PM
YES...
Dodgers please sign Rowand to a long contract!!
Posted by: zito4cyyoung | November 15, 2007 at 12:34 PM
Oh no, no Andruw. Please god no ANDRUW BACK IN ATL!! First A-Rod's return to the NYY is impossible, now this!!?? >:-(
Posted by: cashew | November 15, 2007 at 12:34 PM
I reckon that speculation is centered around the braves considering to bring andruw back through arbitration on a 1 year 15 million dollar deal. I am pretty sure that is the only real way the braves would do that, because i highly doubt we are going to offer him a multi year contract.
Posted by: bravesbeast | November 15, 2007 at 12:34 PM
I'd like Andruw back for 1 year and then start Schafer in 09.
Posted by: Bravesfanuc | November 15, 2007 at 12:37 PM
I'm pretty sure outbidding the Yankees and Red Sox for Lowell would be one of those Pyhrric victories.
Posted by: Bourne's_Identities | November 15, 2007 at 12:40 PM
Tim - I am no expert on this, but I don't believe that if you are suspended for a banned substance that you can choose when to serve your suspension. I am sure he will have to miss the first 25 games of the season.
Posted by: AsFanInLA | November 15, 2007 at 12:41 PM
I just hope the red sox and yankees go back and fourth over the guy and then the orioles come in and sign him for 5 years at 80 million.
Posted by: bravesbeast | November 15, 2007 at 12:42 PM
I think you are correct sir. I'm going to change what I wrote there.
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | November 15, 2007 at 12:44 PM
IF the braves bring AJ back i really wouldnt have a problem with it. I mean he cant be as bad as he was last year and if they bring him back the braves are ALL IN this year trying to win it all. even with out andruw the braves have a pretty damn good offense and if he does come back and can hit 250 hey is going to drive in well over 100 runs, and gives time to let the young guys develop. it may also allow the braves to package lillibridge to get another SP
Posted by: thedeuce | November 15, 2007 at 12:45 PM
I think the braves should bring andrew back for one year. There is no way he will as bad of a year as he did last year. And worse case senario they can try to trade him at the deadline for pitching and/or prospects
Posted by: bravesfan23 | November 15, 2007 at 12:51 PM
Two of many flukes last season: Rowand hitting amazing in his walk year, and Andruw doing bad at the plate. Both will bounce back offensively. I hope the dodgers sign Rowand! I love watching them waste money and still end up at the bottom of the division.
Posted by: UCSDPadsFan | November 15, 2007 at 12:56 PM
Bravesbeat - I hope that Orioles comment is covered with sarcasm, cause it's the funniest thing I've read all day.
Posted by: Smoltz's Beard | November 15, 2007 at 12:58 PM
I must be in the twighlight zone at this point, because not ten minutes ago someone brought up the point that JD Drew's contract is looking better by the day- in contrast with the potential of $15 mil for Hunter through the age of 37, $14 mil for Rowand through the age of 35, or even $13-14 mil for Lowell through the age of 38- and I simply nodded in agreement. I mean, it what insane world does JD Drew become a decent "value" at $70 mil. If I were a Dodgers fan, I would probably vomit at the thought of Aaron Rowand in CF. The odds of him hitting more than 15 HR at Chavez Ravine is about nil, and the walls have far too much padding for him to bust his face open on. Otherwise, he's Trot Nixon with better goatee... IE: a vastly overrated outfielder with two goods seasons who is lauded as a great "clubhouse guy" because he is white and doesn't wash his jersey.
Posted by: PrahaSMC | November 15, 2007 at 01:09 PM
I hate to be this guy but...
"This certainly doesn't jive..."
The word is actually "jibe." I'm not trying to be an ass, I just thought I'd let you know. The "b" and "v" sounds are very similar linguistically and the word is rarely written out - when it is, it's usually written as "jive" anyway. It's very, very common. So now you know...and knowing is half the battle.
Posted by: Marvel | November 15, 2007 at 01:10 PM
Marvel,
The battle is 90% caring, and half knowing.
Posted by: mymrbig | November 15, 2007 at 01:21 PM
Why would the Dodgers worry about a CF? Don't they have Kemp?
Posted by: FineHamAbounds | November 15, 2007 at 01:45 PM
If the rangers are offering hunter 6 years, that deal is as good as done. and they wonder why that team never puts out a winner, the GM is a moron!
Posted by: trober81 | November 15, 2007 at 01:48 PM
Wouldn’t it be funny that the benchmark for overrated CFers that the Dodgers pretty much set last year (in signing Pierre) is erased by them again instantly going out and overspending on yet another overrated CFer the very next year? I mean making the CF “mediocre player base salary” line of 11M was bad enough, if they jump out, make the first frantic signing and raise it up to 14-15 the very next year I think the team should be punished in some way. MLB should take double the draft picks away or something. Or maybe even dock them a prospect, maybe by making Kemp an automatic FA as a penalty…
Posted by: darkstar1661 | November 15, 2007 at 01:48 PM
I just heard Buster Olney say on a Philly sports radio station that GMs around the league are telling him the Phils offered Lowell around 4 years, 50 mill.
Posted by: Balls, Sticks, & Stuff | November 15, 2007 at 02:21 PM
"Why would the Dodgers worry about a CF? Don't they have Kemp?"
If the Dodgers get Rowand then they can use Kemp in a Cabrera trade.
Posted by: DoubleA | November 15, 2007 at 02:32 PM
JD Drew's contract will never be a bargin because JD Drew, no matter what he makes, is still terrible.
If I had to pay either Andruw Jones or JD Drew $15 M next year to hit 25+ HRs and drive in 80+ RBIs while playing great OF defense...I'd still take Andruw Jones.
Posted by: HL | November 15, 2007 at 03:05 PM
Because obviously this:
LF Pierre
CF Rowand
3B Cabrera
C Martin
SS Furcal
RF Either/Young
1B ???
2B ???
SP Penny
SP Lowe
SP Schmidt
SP ???
SP ???
Is so much better than this:
CF Pierre
SS Furcal
C Martin
1B Loney
RF Kemp
LF Either/Young
3B LaRoche
2B ???
SP Penny
SP Billingsly
SP Lowe
SP Schmidt
SP ???
…and it will only cost like 30+ Million more in salary! (before plugging the holes of course; probably 60+ after they are done…) If that is their gameplan then they would be following the model of the Giants and doomed for many more years of failure.
Nah, I hope they feel as thought they might be able to dangle Either to get a starter somewhere ~ something which would actually be helpful to the club…
Posted by: darkstar1661 | November 15, 2007 at 03:07 PM
Matt Kemp will be better than Aaron Rowand as soon as next year.
Kemp was 12th among major league rightfielders in VORP with an average of 305 fewer att-bats than the guys ahead of him.
Projected to the normal ABs of an entire season Kemp is Vladamir Guererro. I understand that he hasn't established those numbers on a consistent basis...however, I'm willing to take a chance.
Posted by: kbrooks2LA | November 15, 2007 at 03:18 PM
Assuming Arod is now off the market the Dodger's strategy should be to:
1. Trade Pierre/Prospect (meloan) to Chisox for Garland.
2. Sign Andruw Jones (5/$90)
3. Do NOTHING else
2008 Lineup
1. Furcal
2. Martin
3. Loney
4. Jones
5. Kent
6. Kemp
7. Ethier
8. Nomar/Laroche
2008 Rotation
1. Penny
2. Lowe
3. Bills
4. Garland
5. Schmidt
6. Loaiza
Also, if they can't get Jones an outfield of Ethier/Kemp/Young would be sufficient.
Posted by: kbrooks2LA | November 15, 2007 at 03:24 PM
I agree.
The Dodgers had a shot at getting a perfect plug for their hole, a power hitting third baseman, without needing to give up prospects.
With that now seemingly off the table, and the only remaining power hitting 3b requires giving up too many supporting players, the Dodgers should turn their attention to getting a modestly valued #4/#5 starter. Dangle Eithier/Meloan, deal done.
Beyond that, the Dodgers should hold. Let the kids play.
Posted by: DodgersLBC | November 15, 2007 at 03:54 PM
"1. Trade Pierre/Prospect (meloan) to Chisox for Garland"
Sox would never make that deal. First off, the Sox already have a slap-hitting OF'er who has no arm, steals bases and doesnt get on base enuff in Jerry Owens, so no need to trade for what they already have. Second they would never take on Pierre's contract, again when they have the same player in Owens for dirt cheap. Garland can definitely be had though.
Posted by: forlife61 | November 15, 2007 at 04:07 PM
I agree that the Dodgers would need to pick up about $3MM of Pierre's salary.
However, the ChiSox ARE dumb enough to make this deal. Ozzie and Williams have been spouting off about wanting to acquire speedy, hit-and-runny, bunty guys. It's like they refused to accept the expected runs scored matrix. It has clearly shown that sacraficing and hit-and-running decreases runs in the long run. He has actually talked about players like Konerko/Dye/Thome bunting and being used in a hit-and-run. What a dumbass.
In addition, they're in the market for a CF and a top-of-the-order guy.
They even talked about getting Eckstein...before they signed Uribe.
There's a chance they might take it. NOT that they should...but Ozzie and Williams are FUCKING RETARDED.
Posted by: kbrooks2LA | November 15, 2007 at 04:31 PM
Geeze, it does seem the Dodgers have their name connected to any big name player available. That's a bad sign, because we all know we can't trust Colletti to make a any transactions. Pierre last year and Rowand this year? This can only lead to one thing, the Dodgers signing Mike Cameron to a 5 year 70 million contract to fulfill Ned's desire to produce the most overpriced and overrated outfield of all time. I think that's the record Colletti is going for.
Posted by: Chillin | November 15, 2007 at 04:44 PM
Ned Colletti doesn't have the balls to present the fans with Aaron Rowand. They actually need to sell tickets, and that simply is not a big enough name.
Posted by: jskohl | November 15, 2007 at 09:43 PM
Jskohl-
Colletti added the hallowed name of "Pierre" to the Dodger ranks last season and was rewarded with record ticket sales. While Juan's name somewhat exceeds his diminutive stature, it's not like he was a marquee signing.
Posted by: famousmortimer | November 16, 2007 at 06:53 AM