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By Tim Dierkes [November 18, 2008 at 12:44pm CST]
George King of the New York Post and Kat O'Brien of Newsday have the latest on the Yankees, who are in hot pursuit of free agent starting pitching.
- The Yankees will offer arbitration to Bobby Abreu, according to Jon Heyman. No surprise there.
- King says the Yankees are preparing an offer for A.J. Burnett, "perhaps a five-year deal worth about $80 million." Burnett's agent says they're just discussing parameters. It would be a strong offer, dwarfing the Blue Jays' four years, $54MM. ESPN's Buster Olney believes a fifth guaranteed year will ultimately result in the winning bid for Burnett.
- The Yankees may make an offer to Derek Lowe soon; they've reached out to Scott Boras regarding him. Other Lowe suitors: the Dodgers, Red Sox, Mets, and Rangers. O'Brien adds that the Yanks expressed interest in Mark Teixeira to Boras (despite the Nick Swisher acquisition). The Orioles are also in on in Tex.
- King talked to a "baseball exec" who sees the Cubs re-signing Ryan Dempster at four years, $52MM.
- Andy Pettitte's agent doesn't want a pay cut from this year's $16MM.
- The expectation is still for Mike Mussina to retire; we may know this week.
- The Yankees aren't in on Jake Peavy, as evidenced by Kevin Towers' comments last night. Rick Sutcliffe and Mark Grace have been pitching the Cubs to Peavy, though the hangup seems more about which players the Chicago would send to San Diego.
- The Yanks have an offer of about six years, $140MM on the table for C.C. Sabathia, and he's mulling it over (somewhere).
"GMs are rich housewives with nothing better to do than spend someone elses money. Just like a rich house wife they overspend on stuff they don't really need."
can't say it better than that!!
Posted by: crash | November 18, 2008 at 04:19 PM
Theirs no question Burnett should be taking the contract the Yankees offered him,thats the contract him and his agent were looking for...If Pettitte and his agent don't wanna take a paycut then part ways with em,theirs no way Pettitte is worth $16M.
Posted by: JT89 | November 18, 2008 at 04:29 PM
Yankees need to sign Mark Teixeira.
1.Damon
2.Jeter
3.Cano
4.A-rod
5.Matsui
6.Swisher
7.Nady
8.Posada
9.Gardner
They would just pitch past a-rod every game. He would have bad numbers. This lineup would not score as much as they should.
Posted by: yanks12025 | November 18, 2008 at 04:32 PM
yanksfansince78,
alright after 10,000 losses and only our second WS title in almost 130 years i think we have the right to be a little sensitive.
oh and don't go making yourselves out to be the 'draft gurus' here. First off your list there comprised about 15-20 years of prospects. Mariano's old enough to be Gardner's father. And Gardner hasn't amounted to anything yet.
Also cano was an amateur FA. (easy to do with $$$), as was Wang, Pettitte, Cabrera and Mariano.
So that leaves you with Jeter, Posada, Joba, Melky and Hughes.
Not so great a draft haul when you realize its a span of about 18 years.
Now before you go and reply I do realize that many yankees draftees have been traded to bring back players so that number should be more if they didn't trade them away, but the point is, the Yanks buy their players, they don't develop them. They won't be confused with the D'backs, A's and the other teams with perenially strong systems.
Posted by: philsWSchamps | November 18, 2008 at 05:04 PM
Perenially strong systems? 1 WS title in the last 20 years?
So you don't accept that a team like the Yanks, Red Sucks, Angels, etc that are consistant winning teams have somewhat of a disadvantage in the draft because their records preclude them from access to the top 10 players? Not saying that you can't find potential stars late in the draft (like Utley) but you can't/won't a team like the Yanks would neevr have a shot at guys like Ryan Bruan, Josh hamilton, David price, Eva Longoria, BJ Upton, Prince Fielder, Delmon Young and Scott Kazmor (Mets).
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | November 18, 2008 at 05:29 PM
Pettite was a draft pick.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | November 18, 2008 at 05:29 PM
http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/pettian01.shtml
alright maybe baseball reference is wrong???
oh and don't give me that, we pick at the end of the draft crap. Baseball is unlike any draft in that the best wait until someone can pay their price to sign. Do you really think Porciello was the 20 something best player a couple years back? Every year there's 2-3 instances of that and normally they're conveniently picked up by the yankees, Tigers, Red Sox or anyone else willing to go well over slot. Gerritt Cole is the latest example, but he wouldn't sign for you guys. Wasn't Brackman (sp) another example of that?
Posted by: philsWSchamps | November 18, 2008 at 05:50 PM
Great. 5 years for Burnett. Have him pitch till hes 37, great! You know what. Why dont the Yankees offer Manny and Lowe ten year deals, while your at it. Pathetic.
Posted by: yankfan1 | November 18, 2008 at 06:09 PM
Actually we're both right. He was drafted by the Yanks in 1990 didn't sign and was signed as an undrafted ameature in 1991. Andrew Brackman was a highly regarded ameature who fell down to the bottom of the round because of injury concerns. The Yanks knew he need to have TJ surgery but signed him anyway because they felt it was a low rish/high reward situation. Gerrit Cole fell to the bottom of the draft because many teams thought he was committed to going to college. the Yanks gambled, offered an absurd amount of money trying to persuade him and he declined and is now in college. The fact that you said the best players wait until someone can pay their price is absurd. If they intend on going professional it's either sign or wait an entire year until the next draft.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | November 18, 2008 at 06:13 PM
Another thing. People who say Girardi coached bad was wrong. He used the bullpen tremendously well, something Toree doesnt know what to do. We saw it in the playoffs. Toree overworks his best relievers and by the playoffs their exhausted. The only problem I had with Joe was not benching Cano earlier in the season. The veteran players need to motivate themselves.
Posted by: yankfan1 | November 18, 2008 at 06:19 PM
The fact that you said the best players wait until someone can pay their price is absurd.
Sorry my friend you are wrong. You glossed over my example of Porciello, but here are others.
Buster Posey (SFG), Justin Smoak, (Tex), Casey Kelly (Bos)
Matt Wienters (Baltimore), Andrew Brackman (NYY) pick above was 1MM, he was 3.3 MM, pick after was 1MM.
Andrew Miller (Det), Ian Kennedy (NYY), Daniel Bard (Bos),Joba Chamberlain (NYY),
and that's just the last 3 years. Again as i said before about 3-4 players in or around round one are paid well over their recommended amounts and players/agents know exactly who will go over and who won't. Its a point of contention between owners. The Yankees, Red Sox and Tigers have always been known to go over slot.
I will admit also that most other teams will go over slot for some players in later rounds, but rarely do they have the impact of Joba, Porciello etc. They are mainly trying to get kids from going to college.
Posted by: philsWSchamps | November 18, 2008 at 07:46 PM
Pedroia should send Quentin a thank-you card for being injured in several last games of the season.
Guess someone's a tool. And to give a hint, it's not me
Posted by: The Goggles Do Nothing | November 18, 2008 at 09:52 PM
what does everyone think about ben sheets? i havent heard his name mentioned at all this offseason. i know hes injured alot, but if hes healthy, i think he could be aj burnett good.
Posted by: elbrav0 | November 18, 2008 at 11:05 PM
"The NFL offers ZERO loyalty to it's players and we will never move to a model like that. Let's move on. Even if the salary cap somewhere around $125-$140 mil were installed you know teams like the Marlins, Pirates, Reds, A's, Rays, Brewers, etc would never come near paying their players half off that amount."
That's absurd. Most teams couldn't even hit that cap (unless there was extensive redistribution of profits to smaller teams). What makes the NFL model interesting is that every team can actually afford to go beyond the cap, but the cap prevents them from doing so.
If you were going to do a salary cap, it would have to be around 80 million so that everyone can afford it. It's then up to the GM to sign smart cap-friendly deals, and take calculated risks on players with large contracts.
You wouldn't have teams throwing money at mediocre players like today, because they wouldn't be able to afford it. Or one team signing all the best FA' because they can afford to. It redistributes talent across all teams. What's not to like? It would also place a greater emphasis on drafting.
I'm not even sure what you mean about the "zero loyalty" thing. There are lots of NFL franchise players who will spend their whole career with the same team. That's loyalty. If you're talking about guaranteed contracts, those are a joke anyway. What other job allows you to do nothing and get paid? NY fans of all people should be against this ever since the Pavano deal.
But in any case, it's only normal that NFL teams would commit less to players, given the fact that football is a much more brutal sport, and the injury risk is way higher. That just makes sense.
Posted by: tomfromsd | November 19, 2008 at 03:02 AM