Royals “Love” Jose Iglesias

People in the Royals organization “love” Red Sox shortstop prospect Jose Iglesias, according to Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe. The 20-year-old Cuban is hitting .306/.340/.408 in AA, so chances are most teams like the looks of him. Not only can Iglesias hit, “scouts can’t say enough about [his] defensive ability,” according to Baseball America.

All of Boston's 29 rivals would probably have some interest in Iglesias, who signed an $8.25MM  deal with the Red Sox last summer. The Royals’ interest in the shortstop doesn’t mean the Red Sox would consider moving him, but it’s noteworthy as the trade deadline approaches.

Because of their depleted outfield, the Red Sox would like to acquire a left-handed hitting outfielder. David DeJesus, who is playing well and under contract for just $4.7MM this year, fits that description. Cafardo hears that the Royals want a lot in return for DeJesus in potential trades, though there’s no sign that the Red Sox would so much as consider moving their shortstop prospect. The Royals will have a top shortstop prospect of their own, once they officially agree to terms with Christian Colon.


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YuppieScum
5 years 11 days ago

Breaking: Prince Fielder “Loves” Morton’s steaks.

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YuppieScum
5 years 11 days ago

Breaking: Prince Fielder “Loves” Morton’s steaks.

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BoSoXaddict
5 years 12 days ago

Saying “the Royals love Jose Iglesias” is kind of like saying “the Pirates love Clay Buchholz” or “the Orioles love Casey Kelly.” Isn’t it common knowledge that Igelisas isn’t going anywhere? The Sox didn’t give a 19 year old Cuban defector/defensive wiz-kid 8 million dollars just to flip him, they scouted him and then signed him to be the shortstop of the future. When they signed him, it was said that his defense was Major League ready but that he had almost no bat and needed to spend some time in the weight room. His offense has been MUCH better than expected so far and could very well push up his Major League debut to as soon as next year with even a remote possibility of some playing time late this season. Anyways, unless Hanley becomes available or something..Igesias ain’t going anywhere.

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jwredsox
5 years 11 days ago

It wasn’t really that he had no bat it was just that they didn’t know how it would project to the minors/majors.

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BoSoXaddict
5 years 11 days ago

True. I’ve also been reading that Iglesias has been assimilating himself to American culture/baseball very quickly and is also making great strides learning English. Everyone that sees him play usually says he has the best hands they’ve ever seen and his “makeup” is also getting a lot of praise from around the organization. Definitely not trade bait..

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BoSoXaddict
5 years 11 days ago

True. I’ve also been reading that Iglesias has been assimilating himself to American culture/baseball very quickly and is also making great strides learning English. Everyone that sees him play usually says he has the best hands they’ve ever seen and his “makeup” is also getting a lot of praise from around the organization. Definitely not trade bait..

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jwredsox
5 years 11 days ago

It wasn’t really that he had no bat it was just that they didn’t know how it would project to the minors/majors.

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BoSoXaddict
5 years 12 days ago

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JDortmunder
5 years 12 days ago

suggested deals involving solid players from small market…”
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The RS aren’t in a position of strength at the moment. If KC deals DeJesus they want maximum value. But RS have a “rookie” who got 2 doubles off Jimenez last night so KC shouldn’t set their demands so high they lose out on a potentially good deal for them.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Aaaagain…3rd best record in baseball despite the season-long absence of their ace, their #3 pitching like a #5, and their first four starting outfielders all out with injuries consistently.

Though Lackey will probably continue to pitch like a dog, both the ace and the outfielders are on schedule to come back. The only significant players set for regression are the substitute OFers who will be replaced anyway and Adrian Beltre.

…Not in a position of stength, though? They certainly aren’t weak.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Actually, Buchholz should definitely see some regression too. But not necessarily a lot, and both Beckett and Matsuzaka (mostly Beckett) will more than offset whatever regression there is.

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jwredsox
5 years 12 days ago

I agree with your post. Buchholz is pitching a bit over his head this year but Beckett has been just plain unlucky.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 11 days ago

Buchholz’s peripherals are pretty scary, but at least some of it can be attributed to a new pitching approach he’s been experimenting with.

His strikeout numbers for example are way, way down – but that’s actually pretty typical for first-year Sox starters. At least it was for Lester. Presumably they require the strikeout-stuff kids to attack the zone and learn to pitch to weak contact before mixing it up.

His peripherals indicate he’s been veeeery fortunate not to be burned more by this approach, but the point is that as soon as he does, he can reincorporate his default approach, pitch less to contact and it should balance out. Frankly I don’t think he’s pitching that far above his talent level.

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windycitywarrior
5 years 12 days ago

A three team trade with K.C., Minnesota and Boston might work:

Boston gets DeJesus and Callapaso
K.C. gets Iglesias and Brendan Harris
Minnesota gets Mike Lowell, Bill Hall and cash from K.C.

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retirenutting
5 years 12 days ago

How frustrating. Even reasonable suggested deals involving solid players from small market teams can’t get any discussion. Baseball needs parity. I hope a cap and a floor eventually find their way in to the CBA.

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retirenutting
5 years 12 days ago

How frustrating. Even reasonable suggested deals involving solid players from small market teams can’t get any discussion. Baseball needs parity. I hope a cap and a floor eventually find their way in to the CBA.

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Just_MLB
5 years 12 days ago

How about a 3-way trade with the Mets / Mariners / Red Sox…

Mets: get Cliff Lee
Mariners: get F-Mart, one low A Mets prospect, ( 1 pitching prospect from Bos )
Red Sox : get Carlos Beltran

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Yankees420
5 years 12 days ago

So just to be clear the Red Sox give up 1 pitching prospect in return for Carlos Beltran? And the Mets give up F-Mart, Beltran, and a low A prospect for Lee? Does that really make sense to you? From any of the 3 teams involved in this trade?

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Just_MLB
5 years 12 days ago

For the Red Sox, they will be taking on Beltran’s 18 million dollar contract next year…hence the reason they only have to give up 1 prospect for him….so lets say they give up 2 prospects to Seattle…

For Seattle it makes sense to acquire F-Mart, he is only 21…and the 1-2 other prospects only make up for the draft pick they would lose.

For the Mets, they are dealing from a position of strength…they would not even be dealing their best CF prospect…( Kirk N. )…plus it is very likely that 18 year old Wilmer Flores is moved to a Corner OF position in the future…
Plus getting out from Beltran’s 18 million dollar salary would enable them to resign Lee to a 3 year extension with a 4th year option.

all of this is assuming beltran is healthy..

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Yankees420
5 years 12 days ago

Yeah, see that’s why this doesn’t make sense to me, the Sox don’t need a CF after this season and aren’t an organization that’s going to pay 18MM to a very injury prone player.

It does not make sense for Seattle to acquire F-Mart, because last I checked they got this guy named Franklin out there, and F-Mart doesn’t project to have a whole lot of power, which is what the M’s need on offense. Ichiro, Franklin, and Martinez would probably be one of the lightest hitting OF’s in the league.

The Mets actually seem to make out in this proposal, so I guess from their standpoint it makes sense, get a lot of salary relief, an ace to put up there with Johan, and deal away a couple of prospects.

Overall, it seems extremely unrealistic that this would even come close to happening.

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Just_MLB
5 years 12 days ago

hmm…thought cameron was signed to a 1 year deal…and as for
franklin…does he play LF and CF ?

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Yankees420
5 years 12 days ago

No they signed Mike C. to a 2 year, and Franklin is probably the best defensive CFer in the game, moving him to LF would lower his value, as his bat is good but not very much pop.

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Just_MLB
5 years 12 days ago

no, i was thinking of moving Pagan over to LF

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Yankees420
5 years 12 days ago

And then where does Bay play? Or are you saying the Mets would deal Pagan to the M’s, in which case they would have no one to play CF for their team.

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Just_MLB
5 years 12 days ago

right…if they dealt pagan and kept beltran…they play beltran this year (
cross their fingers ) and let him ride out his contract…
pagan would play LF at seattle…him and ichiro at the top of the lineup
would be formidable…
the mets would just ride out the contract and eventually replace Beltran in
CF with either Kirk N or F-Mart …
but b/c these are the mets….beltran would get hurt next year…they wont
offer him arb., he’ll go to the yankees on a team-friendly contract…then
he’ll proceed to hit 45 HR batting in a lil league park in front of A-Rod
and in back of Jeter…while the Daily News has him on the cover of their
paper everyday…including off-days…and the off-season

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Yankees420
5 years 11 days ago

Why are the Yankees, and their ballpark, being brought into this discussion? I fail to see the relevance.As for the actual discussion, I still believe that this entire scenario is ludicrous, I doubt the Mets would deal their only other player that is capable of playing CF when their main CF played less than half a season last year and no games so far this year, even for Minaya it doesn’t make sense. Plus, I don’t think the M’s want another OF bat without very much pop, they already have that in Franklin and Ichiro, it would make more sense for them to get a player with at least 25HR power to slot in LF, or any position for that matter.

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Yankees420
5 years 12 days ago

So just to be clear the Red Sox give up 1 pitching prospect in return for Carlos Beltran? And the Mets give up F-Mart, Beltran, and a low A prospect for Lee? Does that really make sense to you? From any of the 3 teams involved in this trade?

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Carlos who?

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Carlos who?

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5 years 12 days ago

we dont want the mets garbage…unless the mets are willing to take the full contract of mike lowell

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Just_MLB
5 years 12 days ago

wow…u know acting obnoxious doesn’t = acting intelligent

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5 years 12 days ago

we dont want the mets garbage…unless the mets are willing to take the full contract of mike lowell

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Just_MLB
5 years 12 days ago

How about a 3-way trade with the Mets / Mariners / Red Sox…

Mets: get Cliff Lee
Mariners: get F-Mart, one low A Mets prospect, ( 1 pitching prospect from Bos )
Red Sox : get Carlos Beltran

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ilikebaseball
5 years 12 days ago

You know who else loves Jose Iglesias? Theo Epstein.

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Fangaffes
5 years 12 days ago

“People in the Royals organization “love” Red Sox shortstop prospect Jose Iglesias”

Oh fabulous. So finally we have a replacement for Buchholz as the guy that every team demands in trade, whether their player is worth anything or not.

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j6takish
5 years 12 days ago

We all had to sit through enough “A-Gon for garbage” proposals, now it’s time for the other teams to demand Buccholz and Iglesias

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Fangaffes
5 years 12 days ago

Other teams have been demanding nothing but Buchholz for the past three years. That was my point.

Seriously, the Rangers wanted Buchholz for their third-string catcher. It was just ridiculous.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Haven’t heard much from the “Buccholz is so overrated/unproven” group lately.

They must be on vacation with the group that was aaaaallllll over the Sox F.O. this offseason for NOT ENOUGH OFFENSE IDIOTS HOWYOUGONNA REPLACE JASON BAY LOL SOX R SO DUM

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5 years 12 days ago

Haven’t heard much about Price and Hughes being overrated either…

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jwredsox
5 years 12 days ago

Bay was so overrated in Boston. He honestly wasn’t that outstanding.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Haven’t heard much from the “Buccholz is so overrated/unproven” group lately.

They must be on vacation with the group that was aaaaallllll over the Sox F.O. this offseason for NOT ENOUGH OFFENSE IDIOTS HOWYOUGONNA REPLACE JASON BAY LOL SOX R SO DUM

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retirenutting
5 years 12 days ago

Garrett Jones from Pittsburgh is a better fit than Dejesus.

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retirenutting
5 years 12 days ago

Jones is younger, has more power, is cheaper, and is under control for longer (2013). He’s a 135 OPS+ his last 2 seasons in 653 plate appearances whereas Dejesus’ inflated 138 OPS+ this year comes from just over 300 plate appearances and is likely to regress to his career norms. Jones’ defense is solid at 1b or RF, he’s got a good arm, and he’ll steal a few bases too. Jones makes $425,000 while Dejesus makes $4.85…not that that’s a major consideration for the Red Sox.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Justin Upton’s pretty good too. What’s your point?

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wolf9309
5 years 12 days ago

Justin Upton is hardly the same level as Garret Jones, we’re talking age, ceiling, defense, absolutely everything. Unlike Upton, there’s a chance the Pirates would be willing to part with Jones for a decent price- not that I’m saying that the cost wouldn’t be prohibitive for what the red sox want (a short term fill-in), but your comment was pretty unneccesarily condescending.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

What would a “necessarily condescending” comment look like I wonder. Not that it was condescension, even – I wanted to know what his point was.

Anyways, I actually thought Jones was a few years younger than he is. But even wit that difference, my point is the same: of course they’re both much better options than DeJesus, so are like a dozen others.

But not in terms of value. They’ll all cost too much to acquire for a position that is only temporarily unfilled.

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wolf9309
5 years 12 days ago

alright, sorry if i misunderstood you, that’s just what it looked like to me. I definitely agree with your main point.

For the record “necessarily condescending” is the response that needs to come after someone suggests trading Lowell and Papelbon to the Padres for Adrian Gonzalez.

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retirenutting
5 years 12 days ago

So you’re saying I’m reasonable… sweet.

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retirenutting
5 years 12 days ago

So you’re saying I’m reasonable… sweet.

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wolf9309
5 years 12 days ago

alright, sorry if i misunderstood you, that’s just what it looked like to me. I definitely agree with your main point.

For the record “necessarily condescending” is the response that needs to come after someone suggests trading Lowell and Papelbon to the Padres for Adrian Gonzalez.

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retirenutting
5 years 12 days ago

i’m glad we worked through the confusion. I actually don’t see Jones being too costly. The Pirates won’t compete for 2-3 years…and by compete I mean sniff .500. Jones is 29. He won’t be part of a Pittsburgh team with playoff hopes and, while he looks legit after 600+ abs, there’s always that concern he’ll backslide in to that AAAA status. He could be a great pick up for a team looking for .285 25 85 production with decent OBP and solid defense. I think he’d hit even better than that in Boston with the protection he’d have. Maybe Alex Wilson/Stomy Piemental and Anthony Rizzo would be enough? To be clear, I’m not suggesting all three … one SP and Rizzo. Boston has plenty of SP depth in the minors … Wilson’s old for his level and Piemental hasn’t impressed by the numbers. Rizzo would hurt but Anderson is still in the system.

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retirenutting
5 years 12 days ago

i’m glad we worked through the confusion. I actually don’t see Jones being too costly. The Pirates won’t compete for 2-3 years…and by compete I mean sniff .500. Jones is 29. He won’t be part of a Pittsburgh team with playoff hopes and, while he looks legit after 600+ abs, there’s always that concern he’ll backslide in to that AAAA status. He could be a great pick up for a team looking for .285 25 85 production with decent OBP and solid defense. I think he’d hit even better than that in Boston with the protection he’d have. Maybe Alex Wilson/Stomy Piemental and Anthony Rizzo would be enough? To be clear, I’m not suggesting all three … one SP and Rizzo. Boston has plenty of SP depth in the minors … Wilson’s old for his level and Piemental hasn’t impressed by the numbers. Rizzo would hurt but Anderson is still in the system.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

I don’t think you’re wrong about what Jones would cost, I just disagree that it’s not too costly. There’s no place for him when injuries clear up, his offensive production isn’t critical and he doesn’t bring to the table on defense anything that’s currently missing.

Kinda sound like I’m downtalking him after talking him up, but not the case. I think he’s a really nice player for the next 4 or 5 years. But not one that will make 2 prospects worth of difference to the Sox team as it currently stands.

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retirenutting
5 years 12 days ago

Ok… I’ve talked to some Pirates fans. How’s about Doubront and either Rizzo or Wilson for Jones? Better for Sox fans due to your pitching depth? Worse?

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Replacing Rizzo with Wilson makes it interesting. I’d probably go for that if I had another deal in place to secure a spot for Jones. Otherwise he’d soon become a 29 y/o bench guy who cost me 2 prospects.

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retirenutting
5 years 12 days ago

Alright…lets do it then. Jones for Doubront and Wilson. Make it so.

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retirenutting
5 years 12 days ago

Alright…lets do it then. Jones for Doubront and Wilson. Make it so.

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retirenutting
5 years 12 days ago

You don’t think 2 prospects could be worth a guy who could give you increased production until your injury bug clears up and then spot starts at LF, RF, and 1B to keep regulars fresh while maintaining a high-level production? Don’t worry… as soon as Rizzo and either pitcher got to Pittsburgh their prospect status would plummet, at least one of them would be injured within 3 weeks, and neither of them would ever perform at the big leagues.

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retirenutting
5 years 12 days ago

You don’t think 2 prospects could be worth a guy who could give you increased production until your injury bug clears up and then spot starts at LF, RF, and 1B to keep regulars fresh while maintaining a high-level production? Don’t worry… as soon as Rizzo and either pitcher got to Pittsburgh their prospect status would plummet, at least one of them would be injured within 3 weeks, and neither of them would ever perform at the big leagues.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

What would a “necessarily condescending” comment look like I wonder. Not that it was condescension, even – I wanted to know what his point was.

Anyways, I actually thought Jones was a few years younger than he is. But even wit that difference, my point is the same: of course they’re both much better options than DeJesus, so are like a dozen others.

But not in terms of value. They’ll all cost too much to acquire for a position that is only temporarily unfilled.

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retirenutting
5 years 12 days ago

and then in my last post I addressed the fact that I don’t see the Red Sox trading Iglesias for a short term fix in their outfield.

I hope the clarification was helpful.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

It was. Everything you said was correct. I just didn’t know why you were saying it.

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retirenutting
5 years 12 days ago

I’m not sure what you wouldn’t get about my point…

The article seems to try and connect dots between Dejesus and the Red Sox based on the Sox needs and Dejesus’ play. I think my post made it clear that Dejesus isn’t even the best LH OF help that could be considered by the Sox, all things considered, should they try and make a trade.

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retirenutting
5 years 12 days ago

and, to be clear, i’m not suggesting Jones nets the bucs a stud big $ SS prospect that all 30 teams love. I’m simply saying that it makes more sense for the Sox to look at Jones if they’re really contemplating LH OF options. If I’m Huntington I’m asking for starting pitching and SS prospects but I seriously doubt Iglesias ever enters the conversation.

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JDortmunder
5 years 12 days ago

solid everyday outfielder, nothing more.”
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Who is having a career year and producing at a rate many 10mil+ OF are. The RS don’t know how Ellsbury is going to return. I would not expect the guy who stole 70 bases.
KC should ask for 2 young P and one of the RS stud INF (not Inglesias, maybe Williamson). I’m not saying they’ll get that but that’s what they should be asking for, to a team that started 3 AAA OF the other night.

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jwredsox
5 years 12 days ago

It is a rib injury. Shouldn’t impact speed too much. Plus it is a fracture. Fractures heal 100% if rehab is done correctly.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

…And which despite that fact has the third best record in baseball with all of their regulars set to come back sooner rather than later. DeJesus is not worth even one quality prospect to me. Maybe he will be to Theo, but I’d be surprised.

He’s definitely not worth anything more than that.

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Fangaffes
5 years 12 days ago

Go ahead and ask. I’m sure Theo could use a good laugh.

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5 years 12 days ago

No way Iglesias goes to KC for DeJesus.. DeJesus is not even worth Reddick

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5 years 12 days ago

Lol yeah he is…Reddick looks completely overmatched in the MLB right now and doesn’t have a very high ceiling. Best case scenario for Reddick is he becomes DeJesus like in 3 or 4 years after struggling for a few years with MLB at bats. Reddick is never going to get regular playing time in Boston.

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5 years 12 days ago

DeJesus would be nothing but a quick fix in the Sox OF. I dont give up a prospect for him, sorry.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

…That’s correct. What he’s explaining to you is that Reddick is barely a prospect anymore at this point. Which has nothing to do with DeJesus. Well, except that DeJesus is much better. So if the Royals only want Reddick, the answer is “where do we sign?”

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5 years 12 days ago

“Reddick is barely a prospect”? Really? When did that happen?

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Yeah, that’s an overstatement isn’t it. What I should have said is that his stock as a prospect probably hasn’t been lower in a long time. His ceiling has never been all that high, and he has been unimpressive against MLB talent.With Kalish, Lin, Fuentes, and presumably Westmorland around, Reddick is not a lot to give up for a guy like Dejesus. And I don’t even like DeJesus much.

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5 years 12 days ago

According to SoxProspects.com he is ranked 8th in the system just to letya know.

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shockey12
5 years 12 days ago

If teams “love” Iglesias as a jays fan you have to feel good about having Hechevarria who is considered the better of the two. Teams can’t say enough about his defence but Hechevarria moved him to 2nd when they played on the Cuban national team.

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jwredsox
5 years 12 days ago

Hech has the better bat. But I doubt any scouts would say Hech has the better defense. I haven’t read anything to suggest that the argument is even close too.

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jwredsox
5 years 12 days ago

“Statistics for the six-foot, 170-pound athlete are sparse, and some think he may have to move off the position, but other reports praise his range and hands on defense.”

Just from the first search result I found.

“Some compare him to former Blue Jays’ Gold Glover Alfredo Griffin and others say he’s more suited to play the outfield.”

“He is a very good athlete and runs real well,” a scout said in the Post. “I don’t see him as a shortstop, I think he has a chance to be a center fielder in the mold of B.J. Upton. His throwing actions at short are kind of long.”

No real consensus on him from these articles but they are a bit old (oldest was written in Feb). But when Iglesius defected the only problem was his bat. He came in with an 80 on the Scouting Scale for defense.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Right. He was basically drafted with the understanding he’d probably never hit very well. His progress (too soon?) has been the cause for so many scouts & teams “falling in love” with him.

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LiveFastCyYoung
5 years 12 days ago

Could this expressed interest have been leaked to get the Red Sox discussing Greinke? Just a thought.

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johnsilver
5 years 12 days ago

Starting pitching, even with Beckett on the DL for a large chunk of the season is about the LAST thing Boston is looking to acquire. The Sox farm system from AA on down especially is very deep with SP talent. No reason to give up prospects for even another immediate #1 type in grienke now, when they already have talents like Casey kelly, Felix Doubront, Alex Wilson, Kendal Volz, Madison Younginer, Drake britton, Stephen Fife, Kyle, Weiand, Manny Rivera and several others in the system.

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jwredsox
5 years 12 days ago

Personally I don’t want to see Greinke under the lights of Boston after seeing him fold like a few years ago. hope the kid can stay in KC and keep where he’s comfortable and keep his career on track.

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5 years 12 days ago

I agree and I said it many times: Greinke is extremely overrated…he had just one good year and in 05 he lost 17 games!!17!! and he has social anxiety disorder which would not help him if he played in a city like Boston where the media is way crazier than KC.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

He’s had at least two good years for a pitcher his age, one of which was dominant. And 2005? You mean his second season in the bigs — on the Royals — when he sported a 4.49 FIP despite a .343 BABIP?

I don’t want Greinke in Boston either because of composure concerns, but there’s no need to crap on the kid’s stuff. It’s electric and his head has always been the only thing holding him back.

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jwredsox
5 years 12 days ago

I agree 100% there should be no questions about his performance (Plus P W used wins in his argument which makes it null and void), the only questions are in his head.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

He’s had at least two good years for a pitcher his age, one of which was dominant. And 2005? You mean his second season in the bigs — on the Royals — when he sported a 4.49 FIP despite a .343 BABIP?

I don’t want Greinke in Boston either because of composure concerns, but there’s no need to crap on the kid’s stuff. It’s electric and his head has always been the only thing holding him back.

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5 years 12 days ago

I agree and I said it many times: Greinke is extremely overrated…he had just one good year and in 05 he lost 17 games!!17!! and he has social anxiety disorder which would not help him if he played in a city like Boston where the media is way crazier than KC.

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redsox4120
5 years 12 days ago

DeJesus is good, no doubt about it. However asking for a player who could be the next best short stop is asking for a bit too much

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Pat_M
5 years 12 days ago

Hahaha and the Yankees are in love with Strasburg. Maybe they can trade Nick Swisher for him. Come on

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j6takish
5 years 12 days ago

DeJesus is a stud, and the Royals are right to ask a lot for him especially since teams will be getting more desperate, but this is too much

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

A stud? DeJesus is a solid everyday outfielder, nothing more.

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5 years 12 days ago

He is not nearly good enough to warrant including someone as important to the Red Sox as Iglesias is in a deal.

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5 years 12 days ago

Do not let him go….. Not like we did with Hanley.

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jwredsox
5 years 12 days ago

Exactly why they won’t. Plus this kid’s defense has been compared to Omar Vizquel. Even a .280 hitter who hits doubles and has a decent amount of steals is valuable with his defense

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Not sure what’s sillier, associating Iglesias with Hanley or implying that trading Hanley was a mistake.

Either way, you get a “no” too.

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jwredsox
5 years 12 days ago

What’s wrong with associating he two? all he is implying was that the Sox traded away their shortstop of the future before (and even though it got the WC) they don’t want to do it again. And I highly doubt the Red Sox are a David Dejesus from the World Series. They have a good enough team atm.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

I didn’t say it was wrong; I said it was silly. It is.Yes they do want to do it again if it turns out like the Hanley trade did, especially since he’s no Hanley.Of course Dejesus isn’t a high caliber piece. Again, mentioning it at all is just silliness. There is no useful comparison to make.

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5 years 12 days ago

umm everyone knew hanley was a great prospect when he got traded but no one knew he was gonna be arguably the best ss in the mlb…same with iglesias, he has a very high ceiling and is 20 years old…its possible that in a few years he will be at hanley’s level…and dejesus is def not worth it…hanley was traded for one of the best young pitchers in baseball at that time.

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Yankees420
5 years 12 days ago

“arguably the best ss in the mlb” Arguably?

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5 years 11 days ago

yes arguably…tulo is there and hes actually higher based on elias ranking for what its worth…

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5 years 11 days ago

yes arguably…tulo is there and hes actually higher based on elias ranking for what its worth…

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Yankees420
5 years 12 days ago

“arguably the best ss in the mlb” Arguably?

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

You ain’t right. Hanley’s developmental question marks concerned his defense and his composure as a prospect. And those weren’t even a question of potential, but of whether or not he’d fulfill that potential.

Iglesias on the other hand was drafted as a gifted defensive SS who would be lucky to become an average hitter. Even now, his offensive potential is pushing its limits and his ceiling in that respect is maybe half as high as Hanley’s ever was.

No one on earth thinks DeJesus is worth Iglesias or that it would ever be considered. “Don’t let him go like we did with Hanley” is silly because letting go of Hanley was a good thing, not because letting go of Iglesias for DeJesus would be smart. Didn’t think I’d need to explain that.

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5 years 12 days ago

I am tired of the “carousel” of shortstops we have went through in the last years, and would like some stability at the position. I meant by saying “Don’t let him go like we did with Hanley.” that maybe we should develop Iglesias, much like the organization did with Pedroia or Youkilis, and see what the kid can do. My bad for offending you with my “silliness”.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Why are you being weird about “offending” me? It’s a comments thread. I don’t think anyone’s worked up over anything.

That’s neat that you’re tired of not having a regular competent shortstop. Would you prefer a regular competent shortstop and losing in the ALCS year in & out or a “carousel” and a couple championships? Not a difficult question for me.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Why are you being weird about “offending” me? It’s a comments thread. I don’t think anyone’s worked up over anything.

That’s neat that you’re tired of not having a regular competent shortstop. Would you prefer a regular competent shortstop and losing in the ALCS year in & out or a “carousel” and a couple championships? Not a difficult question for me.

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5 years 12 days ago

I am tired of the “carousel” of shortstops we have went through in the last years, and would like some stability at the position. I meant by saying “Don’t let him go like we did with Hanley.” that maybe we should develop Iglesias, much like the organization did with Pedroia or Youkilis, and see what the kid can do. My bad for offending you with my “silliness”.

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5 years 12 days ago

umm everyone knew hanley was a great prospect when he got traded but no one knew he was gonna be arguably the best ss in the mlb…same with iglesias, he has a very high ceiling and is 20 years old…its possible that in a few years he will be at hanley’s level…and dejesus is def not worth it…hanley was traded for one of the best young pitchers in baseball at that time.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Hahaha. No.

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BoSoXaddict
5 years 11 days ago

I wouldn’t really call Iglesias a “maybe” given his Major League-ready GG defense..

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BoSoXaddict
5 years 11 days ago

I wouldn’t really call Iglesias a “maybe” given his Major League-ready GG defense..

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BoSoXaddict
5 years 11 days ago

Which means our team is gonna be that much better when he comes back around July 20th!

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BoSoXaddict
5 years 11 days ago

Which means our team is gonna be that much better when he comes back around July 20th!

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BoSoXaddict
5 years 11 days ago

It’s not that he wasn’t hustling, he was having extra trouble with his hip that day. From the Globe:”After Tuesday’s game, Lowell, visibly upset, said he texted Terry Francona to tell him his hip was “barking.” And then yesterday after a couple of sessions with Francona it was decided that taking time off on the DL was the best way to go. Lowell said he was on board with the decision. Lowell said he felt his “embarrassing” run down to first base on the game-ending grounder in which Rockies shortstop Clint Barmes made a great diving stop in the hole was the last straw.”

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BoSoXaddict
5 years 11 days ago

It’s not that he wasn’t hustling, he was having extra trouble with his hip that day. From the Globe:”After Tuesday’s game, Lowell, visibly upset, said he texted Terry Francona to tell him his hip was “barking.” And then yesterday after a couple of sessions with Francona it was decided that taking time off on the DL was the best way to go. Lowell said he was on board with the decision. Lowell said he felt his “embarrassing” run down to first base on the game-ending grounder in which Rockies shortstop Clint Barmes made a great diving stop in the hole was the last straw.”

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Yankees420
5 years 12 days ago

Really? His CY young award from last season would like to talk to you. Top 5 in the AL for me (in no particular order): Lee, Felix, Verlander, Greinke, & Lester. C.C. is a close 6th, but I didn’t want to sound like a homer.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Zack Greinke is not a top 5 pitcher in the AL? k

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5 years 12 days ago

No, he’s definitely not a top 5 pitcher in the AL. He’s pitching in a division that isn’t offensively stacked, and has an era of 3.94.

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5 years 12 days ago

I know, it doesn’t need to be explained I understand all of that. Still If they could give someone to give up all the star prospects it would require to get him, they should do it.

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5 years 12 days ago

I know, it doesn’t need to be explained I understand all of that. Still If they could give someone to give up all the star prospects it would require to get him, they should do it.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Maybe he’s basing it on the fact that a Sox writer is reporting this “love”, hyping the prospect? Still super fat-fetched, but I for one overlooked that it was friggen Cafardo of all people reporting

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Maybe he’s basing it on the fact that a Sox writer is reporting this “love”, hyping the prospect? Still super fat-fetched, but I for one overlooked that it was friggen Cafardo of all people reporting

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Well that we can all agree with. And maybe it’s what you’re saying, but it’s not what you said. You asked why they’d want him. In short, they’d want him because he’s very valuable – on the field or in a subsequent trade or for pitching etc.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Well that we can all agree with. And maybe it’s what you’re saying, but it’s not what you said. You asked why they’d want him. In short, they’d want him because he’s very valuable – on the field or in a subsequent trade or for pitching etc.

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Yankees420
5 years 12 days ago

“this reeks of maybe the Padres and Red Sox going at it again for Adrian.” How exactly does the Royals being in “love” with a Red Sox prospect reek of a deal between Boston and San Diego? Are you attempting to insinuate a 3 way deal?

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Yankees420
5 years 12 days ago

“this reeks of maybe the Padres and Red Sox going at it again for Adrian.” How exactly does the Royals being in “love” with a Red Sox prospect reek of a deal between Boston and San Diego? Are you attempting to insinuate a 3 way deal?

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

I can’t believe you just called Nava a stud. What is wrong with you people.

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5 years 12 days ago

The Padres aren’t trading Adrian…and even if they were open to it right now, why would the Red Sox give up the necessary pieces? Where is he going to play? Beltre and Youk have been two of the best hitters in the AL, and Ortiz has been very solid since April. The only moves the Red Sox need to make are for bullpen help and outfield depth. And hell no the Red Sox aren’t sellers, are you kidding?

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Rich G
5 years 12 days ago

I’m a big sox fan and there is just no way the Padres trade Adrian.

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johnsilver
5 years 12 days ago

it is those rose colored glasses some Sox fans see when they see a guy have a 2-3 week period. probably the same people who thought McDonald was the next Tony “C” after his 1st 2 weeks in the “bigs.. weird how some Sox fans always thinkg freat things about guys like this isn’t it? I’ll be glad if he (Nava) will be a average 4-5OF over the course of his career.

The pitchers just don’t have a “book” on Nava yet on his weaknesses and he is seeing a LOT of fastballs it has looked like. I’d expect that to change really soon folks and for his numbers to take a tumble.

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johnsilver
5 years 12 days ago

it is those rose colored glasses some Sox fans see when they see a guy have a 2-3 week period. probably the same people who thought McDonald was the next Tony “C” after his 1st 2 weeks in the “bigs.. weird how some Sox fans always thinkg freat things about guys like this isn’t it? I’ll be glad if he (Nava) will be a average 4-5OF over the course of his career.

The pitchers just don’t have a “book” on Nava yet on his weaknesses and he is seeing a LOT of fastballs it has looked like. I’d expect that to change really soon folks and for his numbers to take a tumble.

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jwredsox
5 years 12 days ago

I didn’t even realize Nava was a switch hitter until like yesterday lol

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Totally agree. But that’s not what you said before. Before, you said “If I were the royals I’d trade Greinke and get as much as possible for him now.”

I wouldn’t and they shouldn’t. They should trade him if and only if they get what he’s worth in terms of prospects, which will never be offered. Taking the most they can get is a bad idea.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Totally agree. But that’s not what you said before. Before, you said “If I were the royals I’d trade Greinke and get as much as possible for him now.”

I wouldn’t and they shouldn’t. They should trade him if and only if they get what he’s worth in terms of prospects, which will never be offered. Taking the most they can get is a bad idea.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Colon could easily and appropriately move to second, even if he didn’t need to.

But EVEN IF HE DIDN’T, positional scarcity and the unchanging value of talented young players means that there are virtually no scenarios in which any team wouldn’t want a guy like Iglesias.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Colon could easily and appropriately move to second, even if he didn’t need to.

But EVEN IF HE DIDN’T, positional scarcity and the unchanging value of talented young players means that there are virtually no scenarios in which any team wouldn’t want a guy like Iglesias.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

Can’t believe this needs to be explained. He’s young, he’s a top 5 pitcher in the AL, and he has an affordable contract with 2.5 years left on it.

EVEN IF the Royals were goofy enough to want to move him, the prospect cost in order to make the deal even would be obscenely and prohibitively high.

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ReverendBlack
5 years 12 days ago

“…Why would a team want a really good, young, SS prospect…”

Deep Thoughts

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jwredsox
5 years 12 days ago

There was some talk that Colon might have to move to 2B so if the royals got Iglesius (I doubt it) they would just move Colon

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Civilization
5 years 12 days ago

Even if the kid is blocked a top line shortstop prospect can go for a lot more then an every day outfielder. *IF* the Red Sox trade Iglesias, they’re going to look to acquire someone with a lot more punch.

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5 years 12 days ago

Why? If I were the royals I’d trade Greinke and get as much as possible for him now. There is no way the Royals can compete within the next few years, and there will be no way Greinke signs another extension with them.