Word is that the official 2009-10 Elias Rankings are out, so we will try to get a hold of those soon. We've got Eddie Bajek's reverse-engineered rankings available here in the meantime.
For those interested in seeing how the sausage is made, Eddie has provided a look into the American League catchers group. As explained here, the stats used for catchers are plate appearances, batting average, on-base percentage, home runs, runs batted in, fielding percentage, and assists. An adjustment is made for days spent on the disabled list.
The catcher breakdown can be seen here or directly below.
How is Wieters a type A? He isn’t even good.
Didn’t mean to like….
Wieters is good for a catcher.
ps.. if u click the ‘liked’ button after u accidently liked something, it unlikes it.. just saying
Just check to see how the app for the ihpone works. Btw it’s out guys.
Where did the giants find this offense?
Insert Barry Bonds steroid joke here.
there must be that few good catchers in the AL. batting .250 with an OPS under .700 this year is barely even half decent for a catcher
where is mccann?
nevermind…
Posada is ranked 4th?
Who did the rating, Stevie Wonder ?
joe girardi
If you payed attention to how these rankings are complied and have been compiled every single time they have ever been posted you would see that they have a massive offensive bias. You could put Adam Dunn behind the plate and he would probably come in the top 5
Yet Dunn is Type B…
The derivation of the rankings is up there guys. All the stats used, the DL adjustments and their ranks in each of the seven categories. The top 20% (seven) are Type A free agents. 21-40% are Type B. All the numbers are up there, and there’s no reason for “How is X Type Y?” questions. The answer is there.
Dunn is 74.16 as a 1B (type B). If he suddenly “became” a AL catcher that would put him between Suzuki 77.23 and Weiters 73.66 as a type A, pushing Weiters down to a type B… at least that is the way I understand it.
The number is dependent upon others in your position group. It doesn’t translate over.
If Girardi did it, he probably would rate himself over Posada first.
I really hope next year is Posadas last year behind the plate. He is beyond awful. He can’t block the plate, he allows too many passed balls and wild pitches. I hope Montero is ready by 2012 to catch but I doubt that.
Based on scouting reports, it doesn’t sound like Montero will ever be “ready to catch.” He’s already projected as a DH.
Yeah I heard the same thing although I heard that a while back and haven’t been up to date with it. I just think Posada has to go, or at least not catch or at most catch once a week. I respect for what he’s done for the franchise but he’s too much of a liability behind the plate.
I hope the same. Posada’s been great for the franchise, but this year has been embarrassing for him. Some of it may not be his fault. He’s been dinged up more than ever before and at his age it’s harder to play through pain.
I still think Posada can be worthwhile if he is limited to catching 75-90 games by design rather than by injury. If he’s rested and healthy he may rebound somewhat.
Even so at 39 next year, it should be his last. Hope he retires a Yankee after 2011, and doesn’t have to go out like Bernie Williams did: still wanting to play with no offer from the only team he wants to play for.
His contract is up next year, he will hopefully retire. I love Posada and all he’s done in a Yankees uniform, but it was apparent this year, it’s time to go. I remember Gary Carter’s last years as a catcher, where a mulitude of pitchers were actually throwing the ball by him, and I mean while his was behind the plate. I remember once where the HP Ump took a throw on the mask! Jorge is not at that point yet, but I’m hoping I don’t see that again.
Wieters is awesome defensively. Great arm. Soon he’ll have a new hitting coach who can hopefully do something about that big, loopy slow-mo swing.