Rangers Pursuing Jim Thome

Though the Rangers are out on Vladimir Guerrero, they appear interested in adding another aging but productive slugger. The team is actively trying to lure Jim Thome to Texas, according to ESPN.com's Buster Olney (Twitter link). 

Thome posted a .283/.412/.627 line in 340 plate appearances with the Twins last year, belting 25 homers. The 20-year MLB veteran was typically productive against right-handed pitching, posting a .302/.455/.698 line against righties.


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121 Comments on "Rangers Pursuing Jim Thome"


METfan201
4 years 7 months ago

What! That makes NO Sense!

Seanb1223
4 years 7 months ago

It might, depending on what other tricks JD has up his sleeve.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 7 months ago

Yeah, hitting a gazillion home runs doesn’t make sense at all.

4 years 7 months ago

Uhhhh…so where’s Michael Young gonna play?

Seanb1223
4 years 7 months ago

Colorado?

MetsFanXXIII
4 years 7 months ago

Platoon?

4 years 7 months ago

Wrigley Field (trade for Carlos Zambrano). Book it.

4 years 7 months ago

Umm, where would he be playing on the Cubs? They already have Aram…

4 years 7 months ago

Second base. Young’s a former shortstop – he can handle second.

4 years 7 months ago

He’s also a former second baseman.

4 years 7 months ago

I suppose it’s possible.

MadmanTX
4 years 7 months ago

I figure Thome is for those times when MY is playing an infield position in relief of a starter and the Rangers want somebody cheap who can hit. The only problem is that Thome bats left and the Rangers should could use another right-handed hitter.

4 years 7 months ago

Ummm, at any given time, the Rangers only have 3 batters (4 if another DH’s, which takes MY out of the game) that are lefties: Hamilton, Borbon, Murphy, and Moreland. Sure at times you might want more righties, but how can the same not be said about lefties?

PennMariner
4 years 7 months ago

As if they haven’t already won the AL West.

4 years 7 months ago

The A’s starters have something to say about that.

4 years 7 months ago

Not trying to bash the A’s here, but I wonder what the ERAs would be of the Oakland starters in a more hitter friendly stadium…

EDIT: Figured I’d answer my own question
Cahill – Home = 2.18 Away = 3.86
Gonzalez – Home = 2.56 Away = 3.92

Anderson and Braden actually have similar road/home splits.

coachofall
4 years 7 months ago

with that logic would you say the A’s offense if underrated because they play in a pitching friendly stadium? The entire pitching staff was top 10 in road ERA last season and top 3 in home era. We know the starters were top in MLB and very young. I think there is just as likely to be a regression as there is to be a progression by the young arms. Tough to call young top tier talent coming through the minors (Anderson and Cahill) and former top pick in Gio as overrated. There has always been potential and talent in those arms.

DickAlmighty
4 years 7 months ago

Don’t ask Joe to apply his faulty logic in ways that prove his point is substanceless. You’ll confuse him.

$1529282
4 years 7 months ago

There’s nothing “substanceless” about his point. His argument, perhaps, but look around online. If you don’t buy into sabermetrics that’s your opinion which you’re entitled to (even though there’s results to prove their accuracy)… but the A’s rotation is screaming for regression.

Are they bad? Not by any means. Are they the best in the Majors like the were in 2010? Also, not by any means.

DickAlmighty
4 years 7 months ago

Don’t ask Joe to apply his faulty logic in ways that prove his point is substanceless. You’ll confuse him.

oz10
4 years 7 months ago

But as Dickalmighty said early, we cannot expect the same return from our (Rangers) rotation but how do the A’s get the benefit of the doubt and stay the same/ improve?Doesn’t add up or is just west coast bias. Plus we have more young arms and the abitlity to trade for pitching midseason if need be.

4 years 7 months ago

The A’s starters are so over-rated it’s not even funny.

DickAlmighty
4 years 7 months ago

Overrated? What the F are you talking about? The Oakland A’s had the best ERA in the AL last year. Yet, none of the A’s starters gets hyped like King Felix, CC, Cliff Lee, or any other number of “aces” in the league. If anything, the A’s starters are UNDER-rated.

I think what you meant to say was: Oakland is such a pitcher-friendly park that any SP could put up decent numbers there (same argument some people use with Petco Park). That doesn’t mean the A’s pitchers are overrated; it just means they pitch in a friendly environment.

Being precise with your words is a valuable skill. Particularly when your words are all you’ve got (which is the case here in Internet land).

$1529282
4 years 7 months ago

Oakland’s starters led the Majors in ERA and finished 17th in FIP and 14th in xFIP. Their BABIP as a group was a completely unsustainable .275, their K/9 is among the game’s worst while their BB/9 is middle of the pack.

They’ve got a good pitching staff, but that ERA is going to come crashing back to reality in no time. You really think Trevor Cahill can sustain his 2.97 ERA? The majority of the online community will disagree with you.

DickAlmighty
4 years 7 months ago

Nope: Don’t think they can sustain that BABIP, ansd don’t think Cahill is going to have a sub-3.00 ERA next season. You are swinging at straw men.

I was responding Junior BallBag’s point: “The A’s starting pitchers are so over-rated it’s not even funny.” If you can show me a publication touting the A’s pitchers as the best in the AL, or even as a top three rotation in the AL, then point me to it. (As you say, the online community thinks the A’s pitchers are due for a regression; thus, they are not being “overrated” by the online community.)

As far as I can see, the A’s pitchers are not rated highly; certainly not as highly-rated as you might expect them to be coming off a season in which they posted a league-high ERA. The only point I was making was that the A’s pitchers can’t be overrated if they’re not highly-rated, which they’re not.

DickAlmighty
4 years 7 months ago

Nope: Don’t think they can sustain that BABIP, ansd don’t think Cahill is going to have a sub-3.00 ERA next season. You are swinging at straw men.

I was responding Junior BallBag’s point: “The A’s starting pitchers are so over-rated it’s not even funny.” If you can show me a publication touting the A’s pitchers as the best in the AL, or even as a top three rotation in the AL, then point me to it. (As you say, the online community thinks the A’s pitchers are due for a regression; thus, they are not being “overrated” by the online community.)

As far as I can see, the A’s pitchers are not rated highly; certainly not as highly-rated as you might expect them to be coming off a season in which they posted a league-high ERA. The only point I was making was that the A’s pitchers can’t be overrated if they’re not highly-rated, which they’re not.

4 years 7 months ago

They can say anything they want, there’s nothing they can do about it.

jwsox
4 years 7 months ago

yeah but the A’s offense is hiding in the corner while the starts are trying to say”hey we can win if you guys get us some damn runs”

CrustyJuggler
4 years 7 months ago

They must be pretty confident they can ditch Young.

MadmanTX
4 years 7 months ago

They aren’t ditching Young. Thome likely would at best platoon with MY at DH and at worst, be a benchwarmer most of the season.

PennMariner
4 years 7 months ago

He could play first? I wouldn’t take too much stock in this rumor though; Olney is not to be trusted.

PennMariner
4 years 7 months ago

This comment was supposed to be a reply to Greg Alway about what the Rangers should do with Young. I am not suggesting that Thome play first.

4 years 7 months ago

If they keep Young, he’ll play first. He’s worth more to someone else as a 3B/2B than to Texas as a 1B, though.

PennMariner
4 years 7 months ago

Not necessarily, his defense at second/short/third has shown to be pretty damn terrible, and those are all positions that value defense much more than first base. Plus, I would count on Young hitting at a significantly better clip than Moreland.

4 years 7 months ago

I’m pretty sure Young has played 1B before at SOME point, and I don’t think his lack of big league experience will factor in too much. Mitch Moreland couldn’t even pick the ball when he first came up.

4 years 7 months ago

I guess, but they seem pretty high on Moreland.

PennMariner
4 years 7 months ago

I believe he was actually a second baseman before he was a shortstop, so yeah. Just as a heads up though, he sucks defensively, no matter where he plays.

4 years 7 months ago

They are trying to lure him, doesn’t mean hes gonna sign with them. He’s looking for 7-8 million a year since he only got 1.5 last year haha I’m not sure anyones gonna pay him that much, so he may hold out in hope of getting close to that for a bit. I like Thome, but would only give him around 4 or 5 a year.

4 years 7 months ago

Weren’t they going to have Michael Young bat DH? What is the deal with the Rangers this off-season?

pmc765
4 years 7 months ago

Young to the Cubs for Zambrano makes no sense either. Zambrano cannot get through a season without imploding. He’s way too expensive. He can’t bat in the AL.

Young can’t play third for the Cubs until after Ramirez’ annual injury, so you’re making him a super expensive second baseman.

But until Young is traded there’s no room for Thome on the roster.

Heliosphan
4 years 7 months ago

Not to mention that Zambrano is a huge clubhouse issue..

MadmanTX
4 years 7 months ago

That wouldn’t matter as long as the Rangers keep waiving players off the roster. Maybe they will jettison Feldman this time. I wouldn’t miss him.

rangersfan32
4 years 7 months ago

Thome is only being added as an off the bench platoon player. When a lefty is pitching Young will play first and Thome will DH.

4 years 7 months ago

Against lefties? Thome’s a lefty and has a huge platoon split going the other way. Vlad or Manny Ramirez would make much more sense.

MadmanTX
4 years 7 months ago

And cost more too more than likely. Vlad wants too much and Manny talks too much.

rangersfan32
4 years 7 months ago

I’m aware Thome is alot better against righties but he will be more likely to take a platoon role than Vlad or Manny. He’s better against Lefties then Moreland who will be the one who sits. Also he could get alot of time at DH because Kinsler can’t stay healthy for a full season and Young would take over 2nd for that time.

twins33
4 years 7 months ago

I have mixed feelings. My heart says, come back Thome. My head says he’s redundant in our lineup and no way would I want the Twins to overpay (my heart says no to overpaying too).

Thome’s great, but he can’t hit lefties and Kubel can’t either. The Twins need a RH bat to platoon with either one of them.

Heliosphan
4 years 7 months ago

I know it’s kind of a random name, but why not Jermaine Dye? He could probably be had for a few million, he knows the division, and when he’s right, he a pretty good presence. If the contract had a buyout in case he tanks, it would be a solid signing.

twins33
4 years 7 months ago

Dye could work. He does hit lefties well. I don’t know if he’d want to be a platoon player though. This is the guy who basically said “pay me or I’ll take my ball and go home.”

His attitude alone may take him off the Twins radar. If he could be had for 2-3 million, it could work..but I’m just not sure the Twins would do it.

disgustedcubfan
4 years 7 months ago

If the Twins are going to spend some $$$ on a DH, I think Vlady makes more sense than Thome.
Still, you would hate to see Thome go. That 2 run, walk off blast he hit last year off Thornton was my favorite baseball moment of 2010. Hawk Harrelson was speechless.

twins33
4 years 7 months ago

I was at that game, easily the best game I attended and possibly the best Twins game in 2010. I love Thome, wanted him on the Twins for many, many years. That was a dream come true.

It does make more sense to go after Vlad. If they truely want the same amount of money or somewhere around it, then it makes even more sense.

Soxman17
4 years 7 months ago

Your joy of watching the Sox lose must have been the bright spot of your season, “impatientcubfan”.

coachofall
4 years 7 months ago

Anytime Hawk Harrelson is speechless would qualify as a great baseball moment.

4 years 7 months ago

Jim Thome,

Stick to with what you know. The pitching of the American League Central!

mets73
4 years 7 months ago

I think you got his splits stats against righties wrong, it should be .302/.455/.698

mattevilspawn
4 years 7 months ago

? Typo. .302/.455/.698 vs. RHP in 2010.

4 years 7 months ago

On a minore note, while he did hit righties well, his slash stats were actually .302/.455/.698.

lawrence267
4 years 7 months ago

Can’t hurt adding a big bat

Heliosphan
4 years 7 months ago

Even with Michael Young in the picture, I still think Thome is a pretty good fit. They could jettison Mitch Moreland and play Thome at first base on some days. Even if his UZR there is probably appaling, he’ll more than make up for it by destroying RHP. And a lineup with Kinsler, Cruz, Beltre, Hamilton, Andrus, and Thome would be pretty potent.

4 years 7 months ago

Thome wouldn’t last a week playing the field – his back’s balky enough at DH.

twins33
4 years 7 months ago

The last time Thome played a position was 2007 and he did it for one game. You do not want Thome on the field, unless you want to watch him hurt himself.

He’s strickly a part time DH, can’t even be a full time DH because of his back.

Mario Saavedra
4 years 7 months ago

So he only faced RHP last year?

twins33
4 years 7 months ago

.241/.298/.471 vs lefties. He looks bad facing lefties.

baybombers
4 years 7 months ago

HAHAHA watching thome out in the field would be a sight

jono_31
4 years 7 months ago

This makes no sense at all to me. Why Thome and not Vladdy if the end game is to trade Young?A lot of people want to anoint John Daniels as god among GM’s…but ill never forgive him for the Danks Mccarthey fiasco. or the Adrian Gonzales Chris young trade for three guys Ive completely forgot even played for us(C Billy Killian (minors), RP Akinori Otsuka and SP Adam Eaton) shows you how good that one was. The Texeira deal is really all hes got to stake is fame on and that was not a hard move to make. Im not super fast to credit him for bringing in Lee last year either..It was just a matter of having the guys Seattle wanted more for him then any other team out there..not like he cooked up the deal from the start.

kevmill21
4 years 7 months ago

i can blame him for the gonzalez trade….

what going into the danks trade said mccarthy wasn’t every bit the pitcher danks was? it didn’t turn out that way, but you can’t tell me from the minor league numbers and consensus at the time, that mccarthy wasn’t on track to be a very good pitcher.

how about david murphy/engel beltre? how about josh hamilton? how about sticking with nelson cruz? how about going and finding colby lewis? how about the depth of the farm system?

yea the tex trade was cake. salty looked like a nice obvious target and main piece. who were the supplementary pieces? the ones that actually produced for the rangers named andrus, feliz and harrison. feliz was a nothing at the time. guess JD got lucky.

all he did was decide to change the direction of the team entirely in 2007 to see it pay off well ahead of schedule with a good year in 09 and a great 2010.

and yea, ill go ahead and say i think thome is a much much better fit than vlad.